No did I say you did?
Indeed you did. Or at least you implied it. Let's review:
Your initial question: @Zik:
Again why does the entire crew have to have haki?
My answer: @chikmagnet7:
Have to have haki? No one has to have haki. I just think it's extremely likely.
Your next response: @Zik:
As we've seen haki isn't the only thing that can make a person stronger.
So what, pray tell, was the point of this comment, were it not meant to mean that I was saying that haki was the only way for the strawhats to get stronger? I never said they had to learn haki; I only said it was very very likely they would.
If you acknowledged this I don't see how you couldn't understand the initial question.Again I ask why does each and every single SH have to learn haki?
And again, I've already answered you….I'm not saying that each and every strawhat "has to learn haki." I'm saying it's extremely likely they will.
Given the choices yeah you did unless you have an analysis of why they couldn't be proficient in both types of haki and left it out or real reasons why they couldn't lean toward the other.
So because I didn't include an analysis of why each strawhat could not be one or the other and instead opted to analyze why each strawhat would fall under one or the other, my post becomes random guessing, instead of analysis?
Want to show me where explaining the negative is necessary for analysis?
You're completely full of shit.
I figured. Making up wild scenarios no one brought up to try and prove another point is a great way of trying to make a reasonable point and support a theory.
Ah, there's something no one's tried before: take a sentence out of context that proves your point, otherwise known as an admission of defeat.
No I never suggested all of them would not learn it you assumed that.
Then please, if that is not what you meant, tell me which you think will learn haki and which you think won't. It doesn't help if you just hide behind your keyboard eating cupcakes without explaining yourself.
Yeah cuz the NW is filled with endless logia users the SHs will have to fight to the death.
Will have to fight to the death? I doubt it. But is it possible that they run into logia users they have to fight to the death? Yes, yes it is.
Your incessant harping on logia users as if they're the main and only threat and why haki must be used by all SHs is a terrible argument.
Saying an argument is terrible is one way of avoiding it. Notice how you haven't actually explained why it's terrible, probably because you can't.
To an idiotic notion.
What are you even saying at this point?
I never said only Luffy would learn haki or that some of the SHs won't learn haki.
LOL at your attempts to backtrack. This is exactly what you were saying. Your question, though utterly unrelated to anything I posted, asked why every strawhat had to learn haki. The implicit reasoning behind your question suggests you don't think every strawhat will learn haki. If you did, why would you ask it? It's not as if the question itself has anything to do with what I wrote. I'm sorry for assuming you actually had a rational basis for your question. I won't make the same mistake again.
I asked why do all of them have to and laughed at your "analysis" of what types your "theory" said they would end up using.
I'm sure the irony is lost on you.
This part of your post actually had me laughing out loud for a good minute. I'm just glad you can manage to find the "i" "r" "o" "n" and "y" keys on your keyboard without too much trouble. The only ironic notion in this whole exchange has been the fact that the person claiming that irony has been lost on me doesn't have the slightest idea what irony actually is. That's quite ironic indeed.
Show me where and when in the last chapter there was any hint to all of the SHs learning haki.
What does this have anything to do whatsoever with what I said or have been talking about? Answer that question first. Did I say there was evidence the strawhats were learning haki? The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. Nor did I even say that the strawhats would learn haki over the timeskip. These were all your assumptions, begun from an idiotic starting point because you didn't carefully and thoroughly read the post in the first place. I am talking by the end the manga here.
It's funny cuz your theory has all of them learning haki.
Actually, no it doesn't. Wouldn't you be better served to actually read the post, as opposed to, you know, arguing blindly for no apparent reason other than the fact that you're waiting for some pedophilic porn to download?
My "theory" only deals with first, my opinion that they will eventually have haki. I do not specify when or how. The bulk of the post is directed towards once they have haki, analyzing which form of haki they will specialize in, since according to Rayleigh users of haki tend to drift towards one form of haki or another.
You keep talking about logia users but your theory doesn't even have all of them learning color of the armor which is the only type of haki that allows you to harm them.
Again, thank you for proving to me you didn't actually read the post. It deals with which type of haki the strawhats will specialize in, not which type they will learn. As I explain in the post, each strawhat will know how to use at least the two main types of haki, but will specialize in only one, as Rayleigh explained. Why am I even arguing with you anymore. It's clear you have zero idea what you're talking about at this point.
So what's the wager since you have no idea what I think on the matter?
I know exactly what you think on the matter: nothing. Or, at least, that is what you've demonstrated – no ability to think rationally. I'm willing to wager literally anything. That is how confident I am in this.
All of the current SHs will all know haki after the time skip?
I never said that. Once again, you didn't read the post.
Since your theory has all of them learning some type of haki. I'd take it, so are we betting accounts or money? Or are we betting exactly on your theory and what types of haki EACH SH uses? Cuz I'd take that bet as well.
I'm betting that each strawhat will be able to use haki. That is what we've been arguing about, is it not? I'm willing to bet anything. I don't care about accounts. How much money do you have? I'll wager 5 grand.
That end of the manga bullshit is a meaningless wager if that's what you have in mind. I'm not gonna wait around possibly 7-10 years for your theory to pan out. Don't tell me you had something in mind like all current and future SHs will all know haki by the end of the manga?
Is this a question? Why don't you actually read the entire post and then get back to me. You really don't seem to have read it or understood it very well at all. Get back to me once you've read it thoroughly.
Wait wait how about a bet on the amount of logia users each individual SH actually fights?
Why would I bet on that? It's totally unrelated to what we were discussing.
Cuz according to this:
Brook, Sanji, Robin, and Chopper are all gonna pale in comparison to all of the logias in the NW and won't measure up to the WB commanders cuz you know color of observation doesn't help you harm a logia user directly. They'll specialize in observation not in armor and fall short to the countless logia users waiting for them.
Again, I never said they wouldn't learn both types of haki. I said they would specialize in only one, as Rayleigh explained. Reading comprehension is useful in this instance.
@everyone: and this, ladies and gentlemen, is exactly why you do not post drunk