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    Posts made by Ace 4

    • RE: Top-Selling Manga 2021 in Japan

      KnY was pretty mediocre last I read. I do agree art was sub par as well. It's popularity is clearly from the anime. It's a much better product than the Manga.

      I wouldn't worry about it though. Sales of KnY from last year to this year was reduced by about 50 million volumes. If it continues dropping year after year, it'll fade away soon. Or it gets a bump again with the next season.

      OP has been steady mainly through the force of its current content. The closer we head to the ending, we should see an increase otherwise that's when I'd be worried and sad if sales dip. And depending on the success of its other forms of media, it'll surely increase even higher. It's an amazing accomplishment even if it's no longer selling the best. You can't expect to always be number one. Others can shine while still being in decent shape after all these years.

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    • RE: Top-Selling Manga 2021 in Japan

      Yeah the Manga is very healthy but it's other forms of media are lacking. The anime blowing up could make the Manga blow up as well. I'd be down for it to be seasonal if animation can stay good and pacing improved. The anime needs to help elevate the Manga like what happened with the other popular series.

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    • RE: Top-Selling Manga 2021 in Japan

      Very good numbers for a 20+ old series. Depending on how the live action goes, if it goes well, I see sales increasing otherwise sales will continue to stay steady if the other forms of media for One Piece don't attract new potential readers. OP has a ton of backlog that if the live action is successful, that's potentially millions of potential readers willing to get into the series with a ton of backlog. OP is basically competing with very popular series' anime who are buying all the backlog. OP is still a beast after all these years still standing strong.

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    • RE: Marvel Movies Thread - Holy Shitballs

      @Green_vs_Red:

      I'm perfectly fine with the idea of them not making another Spider-Verse anything. With the fact there's three different versions unless I've ignored any others.

      And thats a shame. PS4 Peter and Spidey-Verse Miles are miles better than MCU Spidey. I hope eventually Sony realizes the potential of Spidey's universe from Spidey-Verse and take risks like they did with Spidey-Verse.

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    • RE: Marvel Movies Thread - Holy Shitballs

      @Robby:

      Live action is never going to dilute the Spider-pool and have him be less unique. Comics and a crazy animated thing can get away with having multiples, but the live action is going to want to keep its focus and marketing on one guy… not to mention paying an actor top billing,until its time for that guy to leave.

      IF there is something that makes MCU Peter less unique than Miles, it's because he is less unique than Miles from Spidey-verse. Sony has already established Spidey-Verse to contain other parallel universes which makes it easier to bring other Spidey's into live-action and other mediums without the movies conflicting with each other unless Sony wants universes to do a crossover. Spidey-Verse style movies is our best shot of having multiple versions of Spidey to a much bigger audience. And because that style exists, MCU Peter can still exist as a separate entity while bringing other great and better characters into the live-action. I'd love it if they brought PS4 Peter into the mix as well since he's a much better Peter Parker than Holland's version and he exists in the Spidey-Verse! And the great thing about the Spidey-Verse is that it's able to show and explore more mature content such as killing off Peter Parker, the struggles of another Peter Parker as an adult, and killing off AUNT MAY in the game. At the very least, I would love if Sony explored other aspects of Spidey's universe(s) in the live-action where most people have their attention. It's a sad reality when the best version of Spidey in film made less money than the worse Spidey movie.

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    • RE: Marvel Movies Thread - Holy Shitballs

      @Robby:

      Spiderverse already did Miles as good as he can possibly be done. They don't need to drag him into the live action verse until they're ready to kill Peter off. (And SPiderverse already did that story pretty well too.) And they cast Holland young so he could pay the part forever.

      Let Miles shine as his own lead in the animated ones, as opposed to just being the eventual replacement in the movies.

      They wouldn’t need to replace Peter. Spider-Verse literally shows us Miles can be on his own or with other Spider people like Peter Parker. I’d love to see other versions of Spidey in live-action.

      Most people pay more attention to live action. Miles would shine brighter if they brought him over while still doing the animated stuff. And technically, Miles is a replacement Spider-Man.

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    • RE: Marvel Movies Thread - Holy Shitballs

      Looks like Spidey will get written out in the next MCU film. The 3rd solo Spidey movie was already part of the previous deal so technically it's one extra movie. I definitely see Spidey make his exit there and make appearances in the MCU when or if Sony allows it. I really hope they add more to Holland's character or put Miles from Spidey-verse into the live action. Miles from Spidey-verse is so much better than Peter in the MCU movies. If Sony can translate Mile's style, relationships, culture, hardships, etc. into live action, I'd be so down to shelving Holland's Peter for the time being. Mile's black and red suit, his outfit with the Jordan's and jacket over his suit, his invisibility and electric abilities, his parkour, along with an awesome soundtrack would be AMAZING to see.

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    • RE: New One Piece Movie "Stampede" (August 2019)

      Can't wait to see this in theaters stateside! I remember Film Gold taking half a year or so to reach the states but now it gets here in 2.5 months after release in Japan! With the news of Sony merging Funi and Aniplex, I hope distribution continues to get better so content can be readily available in a much faster time-frame. It'd be so nice to watch future movies closer to release day where the hype and excitement is at its peak.

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    • RE: Chapter 923: Emperor Kaidou VS Luffy

      @Joy:

      Yeah he got clonked on the head by Luffy multiple times without a scratch. Then he freaking sighs and he one shots Luffy. Big Mom did what ? Honestly chapter 890 is one of the worst in the series. Big Mom got clowned hard.

      Oda was able to show BM's strength/potential at the cost of giving her some embarassment. From my understanding, BM is never at her best when she is rampaging. Even though the homies affected by BM have a concious, they still need to be told what to do to be useful. Napolean, Prometheus, Zeus, the candy slime, etc showed this. And when Big Mom does guide them, they can be deadly. Napolean as a huge, extendable flaming sword, Zeus for lightning strikes, Prometheus as a giant ball of flame, the candy slime creating a huge wave, etc. And those Ive listed are nothing more than fragments of Big Mom's soul. The homies having consiousness is definitely a double edge sword as Zeus and King Baum showed us. They were used against Big Mom due to the lack of guidance. Another really awesome scene of Big Mom was when she got struck by that huge lightning Nami created with Zeus which left a giant hole on the ground. Big Mom casually starts walking towards the ground and walks right through as if theres nothing there. And last I can recall, the end of the arc as Big Mom is seen heading back to Cacao Island, the thing she rode on was propelling water behind them big enough to swallow most of the ships present and the town. Big Mom certainly showed great potential. Overall, she wasn't really hurt during the whole thing like how Kaido wasnt hurt even though Luffy was pummeling him for a bit.

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    • RE: Chapter 923: Emperor Kaidou VS Luffy

      @RigaCrypto:

      Com on man, Luffy always gets kicked around before the serious fight. He got ass whooped by Croco, Luci, Magellan, Caesar and many more in the first clashes before he took things seriously and commited to the fight. On the other hand Jimbe is the most serious guy ever and he fights in a standard fashion. Why are we still comparing pears to apples.

      Luffy was definitely serious here. He was pretty level headed than normal as well. Like as soon as Luffy brought Kaido to the ground, Luffy ran towards the mountain again. Finding out about Tama agitated him even more but he didnt act right away like usual. He showed anger and regret and gave an argument to Law as to why he wasnt running away and thus brought Kaidou's attention to himself rather than the others. Luffy went straight to using a move he hasnt used since he tried to destroy a ship about half the size of a small island and then went straight into Boundman to continue his assault. He looked fatigued by the time he was done with his assault and got clubbed afterwards.

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    • RE: Chapter 923: Emperor Kaidou VS Luffy

      @Lord:

      No just no Jinbie is not at the level of Yonko FM.

      I never said he was the level of Yonkou. He is at least as strong as Luffy with what he has shown and more with the unknown abilities he hasnt shown such as Haki which he only used against Big Mom.

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    • RE: Chapter 923: Emperor Kaidou VS Luffy

      @Lord:

      No way Jinbei stronger than Doflamingo let alon Luffy.

      I wouldnt say that at all. With what little Jimbei has shown, he's definitely at least equal to Luffy. In FI, Jimbei questioned the result of Luffy's training when they attacked each other. Luffy used Jet Stamp that Jimbei blocked without Haki while Jimbei used a normal Fishman karate punch that probably equates to Luffy's normal Pistol Punch. Jimbei didnt even make contact with that punch to affect Luffy.

      Adding unknowns such as Jimbei's Haki would put Jimbei above Luffy.

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    • RE: Chapter 923: Emperor Kaidou VS Luffy

      @uniaka:

      Anyway, if luffy is really KO, then jimbe did better with BM. Even Chopper blocked her attack, yet luffy 1 hit ko? If yonkous are balanced, then jimbe> luffy. She was in her tantrum, but kaidou is also drunk.

      With Jimbei, its really hard to tell. Oda did a lot to keep BM in check power-wise since she was looking for her cake. Luffy did hit BM with Kong Gun at the party but she used Haki against it while Big Mom was mindless when she went after the crew and didnt really defend at all yet she still wasnt hurt.

      With Chopper, he didnt block anything significant lol. The scene I recall showed Big Mom about to put her hand down on Nami looking for the cake. That was it. Like trying to squash a bug.

      Overall, Big Mom's strength is very hard to gauge with what was shown. Luffy against Jimbei however, I feel like Jimbei is slightly stronger since Jimbei has yet to really been shown to use much of his abilities other than his Fishman karate. Obviously Jimbei knows Haki but he only used it once to defend from Big Mom and that was it. Luffy on the other hand has been pushed to use G4 Boundman as well as Snakeman and exhausting himself from being pushed to use those abilities.

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    • RE: One Piece World Seeker (PS4, Open World(?), 2018)

      This game is looking better and better! Loving the different environments so far! This game cant come sooner T_T

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    • RE: Chapter 893: 36th Daughter of the Charlotte Family - Flampe

      Interesting. I wonder if Luffy was instictually using CoO when he fought Enel. Luffy wasnt uncocncious in the normal sense but he did lack conciousness to a degree. I think at least he did since he had limited control of his body. He was aware but he couldnt perform ceratin actions like attacking.

      Also a cool throwback to WB smacking Ace away while asleep.

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    • RE: One Piece World Seeker (PS4, Open World(?), 2018)

      Dammmmn~ its a modern city! That is such a big changed from the open farm field we have seen! *o*/

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    • RE: One Piece World Seeker (PS4, Open World(?), 2018)

      @LazySketcher:

      Uh…I can't express a concern I have about the gameplay? I'd be thrilled if they showcased an in depth stealth section or demonstrated how these enemies are actually very dangerous if faced recklessly. But based on the video beating the goons was a breeze. There was even variety: some dudes with sabers, some with pistols, and some heavies with gatling guns. All got wrecked pretty handily no stealth required by someone who clearly wasn't familiar with the controls. If they can release a demo in the future showing the importance and more importantly the fun of observation/stealth gameplay then great, I can then get hyped for this new function of the game. Otherwise it kinda feels arbitrary as hell. Just some tacked on feature simply because it's technically something Luffy IS capable of but overall unnecessary. And if stealthing is as clunky as the open combat looks so far then very little in this game seems like it's gonna be much fun at all.

      THis is just my initial thoughts. Basic impressions based off this short gameplay. I'm allowed to think it looks unpolished because it sure fucking does to me. Would LOVE to be wrong tho, can't emphasize that enough. If you like it, that is totally cool. Despite my criticisms there still ARE things to like about this game. Ok? Not that my opinion should really matter much to anyone anyway. I'm glad you're all satisfied with what you see so far, I'm just not. Crossing fingers for a good stealth demo soon…

      Thats not what I said. Its your reasoning. The reasoning doesnt fit when it comes to the game design. The game is an open world/rpg. It makes no sense to create an open environment for you to explore when you cant even play the way you want to.

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    • RE: Chapter 892: Acknowledging a Strong Enemy

      @Maju:

      looks more like a dart (luffy is immune to bullets but not to anything with a pointy enough head) that has some kind of substance that slowed him down..he is seeing trembling after the shot.

      Yeah. It was some sort of dart. Even if it was Kairoseki bullets, it would just be lodged in him rather than go through him similar to the fight with Zephry. I also think the dart was coated with something. In the panel showing Luffy hit by Kata's spear, Luffy's right leg is wobbling. Thats probably why Flambe is laughing.

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    • RE: One Piece World Seeker (PS4, Open World(?), 2018)

      @LazySketcher:

      Well let's hope this is still in very early development bc so far it looks pretty bad. Luffy's movement is fine, but the way he traverses the map by stretching is by far the most impressive thing I've seen from this game so far. Was really hoping to see more of it in action. Too bad the lady stayed on the ground and ran everywhere for most of the video. The haki mode seems neat but unnecessary. The man is worth 500 mil, he doesn't need to be wary of these basic goombas. If it were Nami or Usopp that mode would make sense. But it's Luffy. He wouldn't care if there were thousands in one area all with the strength of Rob Lucci, he still wouldn't even think of stealth. I'm probably never gonna love the environment or graphics of this game either. The effects on Red Hawk look pretty good tho. Combat looks clunky, getting a lot of World Red vibes from it which is a bad sign.

      In fact that's exactly what this all feels like so far, just World Red again but in a different engine, faster running speed, and way less characters npc or otherwise. Overall it doesn't look like an awful game, just not the game we want or what they were hyping it to be. I'd love to eat my words tho, praying for it actually. Hopefully this turns around for the better. This demo might have benefitted from someone who was already familiar with the controls and whose job it was to showcase all the fun things you can do. No offense to the lady but her gameplay didn't sell the game very well at all. I was fairly optimistic before I saw this video.

      Lol at the critique about CoO system xD Youre not Luffy. Youre a person controlling Luffy. And how you use his abilities is up to the player. They did a good job of using an Eagle Eye type thing to use CoO. Its an ability the character can do and limiting it to certain scenarios woupd be a terrible design idea.

      And same with stealth. Why shpupdnt you be able to be stealthy? Its a game that allows you to play a certain character. However way ypu want to within the games mechanics.

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    • RE: Chapter 892: Acknowledging a Strong Enemy

      @uniaka:

      [qimg]https://www.samehadaku.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Komik-One-Piece-Chapter-892-Bahasa-Indonesia.jpg[/qimg]
      Idk, looks pretty big, close to his X, and a piece of his chest is gone? his nipple is gone, at least?.

      Yeah. It is a pretty big piece of him. Luffy's scar doesnt cover his entire chest. The center of his scar is within the center his chest and does not go past his nipples. A whole close to the center oh his chest is a big chunk of his chest.

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    • RE: One Piece World Seeker (PS4, Open World(?), 2018)

      This game is wonderful big step to an open world One Piece game!

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    • RE: One Piece World Seeker (PS4, Open World(?), 2018)

      So hyped for this game! Need more info about the game though. Plot is somewhat hinted, Luffy looks amazing, but the land looks empty. That city on the map seems to be the venter of everything with sparsely populated areas. As long as there are plenty of quests and a good amount of cool areas we can explore, Id be set! One cool area besides the city that I found interesting was the one with crystals sticking up from the ground. Im also hoping the big body of water in the middle is used for something like sailing from one side to the other. So far theyve shown off an area on the map that isnt seen so the map may be much bigger than what we see if not just slightly. Come on Ganbarion! Here's tp hoping for plenty of worthwile missions, cool areas to explore, and a decent level of progression!

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    • RE: Greg: Teacher of SUPER " OP " course !

      @K.:

      Some planets have rings.

      Yeah they do like Saturn. But I cant see how we can say what we see there is the OP planet. It doesnt even resemble the planet at all. Its just a plain circular object with a ring. Could be a different planet.

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    • RE: Greg: Teacher of SUPER " OP " course !

      @Doke:

      I feel like the model we saw in Ohara wasn't actually showing six moons or however many there were around the planet, but was a geocentric model of the One Piece solar system. It would answer why we have only seen one moon in the sky, because the other "moons" are actually planets and they aren't orbiting the One Piece world. This doesn't address the problem of time between full moons, but it does explain the number of moons.

      I think they could still be orbiting the planet. Oda could use it to give somewhat of an explanation to the planets environment. And also, if we stick to our knowledge of the solar system, all the planets in our solar system are on the same plane. Meaning if you were to look at the solar system from the side, they are on a line. The Ohara model shows different orbits from different angles.

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      @K.:

      But which of the planet/moons is the Sun then?

      The only reason to believe that it is a geocentric model is if the World Government was hiding how the real universe is. We are to believe that Moon people came to Earth and would have advanced scientific knowledge in the subject.

      Not to mention, what about this model then?

      ! [qimg]http://i3.mangareader.net/one-piece/689/one-piece-3712675.jpg[/qimg]

      It clearly only shows 1 planet and its moon.

      I dont see a planet and its moon. I see a circular object with a ring. The circular object is plain. It has no redline. Nothing. And the ring lacks a moon to show its orbit. Its just a ring. We dont even know what that is suppose to be.

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    • RE: Chapter 887: Somewhere, Someone Is Wishing For Your Happiness

      @Razh:

      This chapter was rather fun. Pudding and Vito's reactions were hillarious. Wonder if Bege's ship transformation is due to tech or his devil fruit awakening.

      Oh right, don't especially like what Oda did with Pound. Like, nobody thought of picking up that guy that tried to help them, that is pretty much screwed now that they are gone? And where did Oven get that bisento? It appears as if it was lying randomly on the side? Just so that he can seemingly kill Pound? A knock out with a fist wouldn't be nearly as dramatic. Really hamfisted, all in all.

      Other than that, it was really touching.

      Lol pretty sure he got it from a subordinate. There is a text bubble from someone else telling Oven tl watch out when Pound attacks.

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    • RE: Chapter 887: Somewhere, Someone Is Wishing For Your Happiness

      @Razh:

      But it's a random guy who was practically risking his life for them. Somebody ought to notice that and maybe give a helping hand. Why the hell didn't he try to board the ship or ask them to bring him with? No reason, other than to "die" in a cliffhanger.

      Also, the fact Oven knows who Pound is, but Chiffon and Pudding don't, irks me for some reason. Pudding especially. Especially if it turns out she tampered with some memories over the years.

      Well, it's not like he's dead, though. He might still get his family hug with twins.

      They didnt know that lol. You even have a chef this chapter questioning if he is Oven's archnemesis T_T. Why he didnt board the ship, who knows. Could be because he didnt feel like he belonged there.

      We dont know whose memories she has tampered with. Its not like everyone is aware lf Pound. So the likeliness that she tampered with the memoroes of someone who knew of Pound is slim.

      He could. But Im hoping this was the end. It was a happy ending for Pound. Sad af, but he died happy.

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    • RE: Chapter 887: Somewhere, Someone Is Wishing For Your Happiness

      RIP Pound T_T That was heartbreaking. Chiffon why you gotta call him a pervert T_T Damn. Dude was even fixing his tie during his final moment. Gotta look sharp in front of Death T_T

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    • RE: Greg: Teacher of SUPER " OP " course !

      @maxterdexter:

      It would be a cheat for now after almost 900 chapters, to see another moon on the sky. Unless that weird thing that kidnaped bege back before the timeskip was a low flying moon.

      I dont remember much from my science classes but I remember that the moon can only be seen because it is reflecting sunlight. And thats why when there is a solar eclipse(not this but I think a phase of the moon; cant recall), you cant see the moon for a bit because its in a position where its not reflecting as much sunlight as it usually does.

      Also, I dont think every single thing that orbits the planet is of the same size. We know for sure they all have differently orbits so the one Bege landed on could definitely be one of them.

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      Also, I dont know if you could even classify it a moon. I mean, that thing seems to have a much stronger gravity than the planet does since it attracted Bege's ship from the surface.

      But then it gets weird lol. If that thing has a much stronger gravitational pull than the planet, then it makes it seem the planet is actually orbiting around it. Idk lol. The whole thing is interesting. Expecially when there are others according to that model in Ohara.

      Not only that, you even have that one spot on the world where it never goes dark. Enies Lobby.

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    • RE: Chapter 886 : This Ish The Way I Live

      @Razh:

      Spoiler boy.

      Unlike Fainting Haki and Punching Haki, Prediction Haki can easily be used outside of battle. And we've seen it's more or less active at all times, since Luffy can't be surprised by sudden head shots or flying axes, for example.

      Giving Luffy that kind of predictive ability and then solving any possible future problems with how it would affect his personality and decision making changes with an on/off switch would seem like pretty lazy writing to me.

      I didnt say it couldnt be used outside battle. Just that it wont be used as much as youre claiming. Your examples dont prove he was using CoO. Luffy has been hit numerous times during the TS. And his reflexes alone are enough to counterr such attacks.

      I dont think so. We know for a fact tbere is an on/off switch. Why do you think Kata got hit in the first place? Its not always on like you claim. He's literally always trying to stay calm and read the situation. Luffy isnt like that. He's definitely going to use it for battle mainly. He'll end up changing how he fights a bit sure, but other than that, not so much.

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    • RE: Chapter 886 : This Ish The Way I Live

      @Razh I dont think Luffy would use it outside of battle as much as you think. Problem solved. Luffy hardly utikizes his abilities outside battles anyways since they were created for fighting in the first place.

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    • RE: Chapter 885: Grrruuumble

      Nope. We both agreed it can or cant happen depending on the person. The fact that it can happen just shows its a possible future. And when the user reacts differently thus changing the course of events, he has literally changed the future, a different path. The other future exists and was going to happen had you let it play through. And if another user sees the new possible future, they can also in turn react differently to it to thus, again, change the course of events. I hope thats clearer.

      Ummm yeah it does. The fact he knew what wpuld have happened just proves my point. That future possibilty was already set to happen had Kata not intervened. And the fact he ontervened changed the course of events.

      I disagree. Its not just 2 future possibilities. Like I said, in order for the future to be read, the course of events already exists. Time is predetermined. Anything and everything that can, will, etc is set. I believe this is the case because you shouldnt be able to read the future if the events do not exist before they occur. The fact they exists already allows you to see what is likepy to happen amd thus can change the course of your path which branches out to a whatever path. And how you react can be countered by someone else thus changing the likely future what wpuld have happened if they react differently.

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      Adding on to Fate, there are certain things that will happen no matter which path you take. The example with Paradise perfectly describes that.

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    • RE: Chapter 885: Grrruuumble

      @ Hannibal Psyche

      Then you agree no? If they see a future that may or may not happen due to their knwoing of it, that means there are different scenarios to how the future can unfold.

      The flow of time is predetermined. Thats why they are able to see the future in the first place. By taking into account Fate, certain things are meant to happen no? But it doesnt mean there cant be multiple paths to that same scenario. The best analogy I can tell you are the routes in Paradise. There are different routes you could choose from but they all connect eventually.

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    • RE: Chapter 885: Grrruuumble

      @ Hannibal Psyche

      Im gonna have to disagree. It definitely is seeing a possible future because what Kata sees is what will happen. But because he sees what will happen, he can let it play out or intervene if he is able to. Thats why I mentioned having infinite possibilies/realities. Its not like what Kata sees is false. Its definitely true but it wont always play out that way because one, he chooses to react to it or cant do a thing to react to it. Example is BM's wedding cake. He definitely saw what was going to happen but was unable to prevent it. So I disagree. CoO definitely sees the future/possible future.

      Adding to this, I am now revising my claim regarding the user not being involved when CoO is used. I believe they also do see what could happen to them. I just remembered that scene back in Skyepia where Luffy was about to finish off Enel. IIRC, Enel definitely saw what was gonna happen to him if he didnt move. But since he couldnt react to what he saw, the vision played out the way he foresaw it due to being incapable of reacting to it. Which supports the fact that the future can be changed. Meaning different possiblities which leads to an infinite amount of possibilities.

      An example similar to Enel is Luffy back in Marineford. He clearly saw what cpuld have happened thus redirected his attack

      Hmmm. This scenario is pretty easy to counter I think. I mean, if you had already decided to intercept her run beforehand, why wouldnt you be able to see how she would react? Its confusing to me. If you were on the same route and were already planning to intercept the chick, that actions outcome should be seen. Lets say you were on the same path but had no plans on saying hi or whatver, then yeah I agree. How she reacts to you saying hi wouldnt be seen because you had no intentions of doing so. Youd first see a different event. But if you then decide to say hi because you saw nothing was gonna happen if you were to pass by her or something, then yeah, I agree. But then you should be able to see how she reacts if you are able to read before she reacts. I think it all comes down to timing. But you may still be right. But I also think there is also a gap in between each reading of the future. Since Kata is capable of seeing several seconds ahead, there is a tiny gap of time where he cant read whats to come.

      I agree. They see the future the way it is but there intervention leads to a different possibility. Thats my point. What is seen can happen if its allowed to happen. Its not like what is seen isnt the future. It is nothing more than a possible future but your intervention ends up leading to a different possibility which then leads to an infinite amount of possibilites. And I agree wholeheartedly reagrding to the observed reacting to Kata 's intervention. Everything they see is true. It can happen if its allowed to, but can be changed if they choose to. Which goes back to my point of infitie possibilities. And this is why I believe you can get stuck in a loop of an ever changing future. You have one character foreseeing an event and intervenes, but then the other sees what you do so they react to that, and repeat. Everything they both see are things that can happen but since they keep reacting to each other, the future is constantly being changed.

      I chose a specific situation where both characters are like Kata do intervene to what they see. If theyre constantly seeing what the other will do, they end up getting stuck in a loop because nothing they see will occur if theyre always reacting to it.

      Edit: To clarify what I mean by things not occuring, I mean of the oppont attacks and the attack and sees he will get hit, the attack can still occur but the attack doesnt hit.

      I think its a higher level of CoO. So far, we know that CoO is the only ability that is capable of foreseeing.

      This is the basic version of CoO. Kata is able to see further into the future compared to the Boa Sisters for example as claimed by Bege and shown during his introduction.

      I agree since all that happens after you see what is coming. But you can definitely see what your intervention leads to since at that point you can read how the other character will react to your action. Assuming you are able to read what is coming after.

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      @Hannibal:

      Observation Limitations

      Observation Haki predicts future actions as we all know. With Observation Haki you can tell an opponent is going to throw a right kick and follow up with a right uppercut, or you may foresee an opponent is going to run up a tree & follow up with a back-flip and you may foresee your opponent is going to say "I don't intend on dying here"; all of these are foreseen before they happen. Bare in mind that Observation Haki also foresees the future as if the seer doesn't intend and will not under any circumstance intervene; the Observation Haki user never sees how he himself will react.

      1. For example, Katakuri foresees that Luffy is going to exclaim "I don't intend on dying here", and then shortly after, Luffy says it exactly as he prophesied. By Katakuri not intervening or doing anything (e.g. kicking his face in), things played out exactly as he foresaw in the spoiler below.

      ! [qimg]https://i.imgur.com/hr1oWfX.png[/qimg]

      2. What else counts as not intervening? Evading attacks. Luffy decides to punch Katakuri; Katakuri has already seen in the future where Luffy will attack. All he has to do is not intervene and simply create holes in his body or move left and right at the very last moment, so there's no reason for Luffy to react differently, and therefore, what Katakuri has foreseen plays out. It's similar to not doing anything. A character sees their opponent will kick them with the right leg, they don't intervene, they let things play out and simply move out the way.

      ! [qimg]https://i.imgur.com/ykeN3Z2.png[/qimg]

      3. Here, it's completely different as he doesn't let things play out as foreseen. He sees what Jigra would say "blah blah blah and shot 2 of your men", but before all that happened, he shot with jelly beans. Bare in mind, he saw all of this play out with his Observation solidifying the notion that things are foreseen from the point of view of not interfering or intervening. Point I want to make here is that by intervening, things may not always go according to plan for either himself or the person he's observing as the next point should prove.

      ! [qimg]https://i.imgur.com/5oUYP0M.png[/qimg]

      4. He's seen the future, he knows Luffy is running to show Big Mom the picture. We know Luffy would just have shown Big Mom the picture anyway without any intervention, but when he intervenes, there's a chance it might fail and chance he might succeed. Remember, it only shows from the perspective of not intervening, so any form of intervention succeeding or failing is as much of a mystery to him as it is for anyone else.

      ! [qimg]https://i.imgur.com/4AOx6ko.png[/qimg]

      5. Here, we can see that Luffy says Katakuri attacks to the side he's going to dodge towards right after his previous attack. Katakuri attacks, sees where Luffy will evade to with his Observation Haki, and when he decides to intervene, he attacks in that direction, but because Luffy has reactions fast enough to respond to Katakuri's attacks, things don't play out the way Katakuri wants. Again, Bare in mind Observation Haki allows the seer to view things as if they're not going to intervene, so the success of any form of intervention depends on how quickly the opponent can react to a change and the speed of the Observation user.

      ! [qimg]https://i.imgur.com/iHcwoJC.png[/qimg][qimg]https://i.imgur.com/9BzC6hy.png[/qimg]/ Another point this makes is that the user cannot user Observation Haki when intervening because committing to an attack + Observation Haki require the entirety of one's focus, so it's impossible.

      • Long story short, this is how Observation Haki works - Uses Observation > Attacks (intervene)/Defend(Dodge) > Uses Observation again > Attacks (Intervene)/Defends (Dodge) - over and over again until they battle is concluded.

      Reactions & No Reactions

      So, while Katakuri can see into the future (as with all other Observation users), should the opponent possess fast reaction abilities, they can always evade attacks and as long as the Observation user intervenes, the future doesn't play out as they foresaw exactly. It indicates that Jigra could possibly have survived had he possessed the reactions and was cautious enough to be ready to respond to the change in setting; unlike Jigra, Sanji who was alert to his predicament and had his guard up was ready to react to any changes, and that was why he was able to evade Katakuri's shot - not so much a failure of Observation Haki.
      This also enlightens one as to the nature of evading (not inciting a reaction) and attacking (inciting a reaction). Evasions seem to have a greater chances of success because things play out as foreseen, and all the Observation user has to do is simply move out the way while, in the case of the Observation Haki intervening (attacking), it may make out that Observation Haki is useless for attacking since the opponent can just move out the way if they possess good reactions.
      Observation Haki though may not guarantee any intervention in regards to attacking successful (or even in evading as that's also down to speed & reaction), it more or less still sets up how one should follow up with their next attack and allows one to incessantly pile on enough pressure against their opponent until they falter and leave themselves open for a fatal blow. It's better to know your opponent will move to the right before your attacks end than only after it ends where you have to wait for your opponent to manoeuvre before you do, because then, you can setup your next attack before they're ready to react.

      Heated Battle

      When one attacks, there's only so far into the future that one can see because they're in a heated battle as there's a chain of reactions being incited when an Observation Haki user is on the offensive. They'll like be seeing milliseconds into the future due to the pace of the fight and the moment they intervene into what they've foreseen, their opponent will likely react like image 5 showcases if they possess the speed to do so.
      The reason evading attacks always seem to have more success than attacking with Observation Haki is because evading attacks doesn't incite a new reaction from the opponent, they're just attacking with barrages until they hit without much calculation. You see your opponent will stab your left arm with a spear, you don't charge at them to incite a reaction, you wait for the spear to just about hit, foresee and and evade, and everything plays out as foreseen.
      While Observation Haki is a powerful tool, when you have an opponent that has great reflexes like Luffy (in fact this might be indicating to us how great Luffy's reflexes are), there's a margin of error for the Observation Haki user on the offensive and this increases the greater the reactive speed of the opponent. It's also enhanced by the fact that Luffy is rubber, therefore, he's very flexible as we see and can perform unorthodox evasive manoevures. Anyone else might have been killed in image 5.5 or broken their necks at the very least, but he's rubber.

      How Does Luffy Overcome Katakuri

      There's also something that needs to be pointed out regarding Katakuri. Without his Logia-esque ability, he wouldn't be this difficult to fight. The big issue here is take someone like Luffy, he can't create holes in his body, therefore, when he avoids attacks, he has to move to the right, left, jump, etc. He has to dodge by moving and this leaves him vulnerable especially if not extremely agile and flexible as seen when Katakuri tries to stab Luffy's head, and Luffy slams his own head down to end his momentum and change direction.
      This is what is terrifying about Katakuri, he on the other hand can stay on 1 spot and avoid all attacks meaning it becomes rather difficult to get him flat footed as he can evade all things from standing on the spot. How do you defeat someone who can literally dodge any attack without moving? You punch and he makes a hole in his body (think of the size of Katakuri's body compared to Luffy's fist and the implications). In order to hit Katakuri while he's composed, there's really only 3 things that come to mind:

      1. To either become faster than Katakuri - meaning Luffy must be fast enough to throw attacks faster than Katakuri can create holes in his body - Probably requires a power-up.
      2. Other solution is Luffy has to use giant sized attacks that are too big for Katakuri to simply create a hole and those attacks tend to be slow. Katakuri would see it coming from a mile away.
      3. Final serious solution is disrupt his CoO by King's Haki assuming it can do that - it's somewhat hinted as being able to do that.

      It's no surprise this guy hasn't been defeated or hit in a long time. It might not be that he's even stronger than his opponents, he's just so skilled at evading attacks thanks to his ability and he's so huge too standing at 5 meters tall (which is ironically an advantage as a Logia/Unique Paramecia) that the only way to defeat him or remotely hit him is to have attacks that are too big for him to evade and equally fast. There aren't many people who have these qualities besides Big Mom and Kaido as they're giants with enormouse sized fists - and even with a fist her size, whose' to say he can create a hole in his cavity that's as big as a gaint's fist since Mochi has elastic properties to begin with. So, it really would take something special to defeat Katakuri.

      Damn xD Well formatted lol. But anyways, I was already aware CoO sees a future that doesnt involve the user in the equation. We found that out the moment Kata was introduced. Im mainly confused about how complicated it can get. What a user sees is obviously not set in stone since they can alter it if they so choose. So technically Oda has gone into the realm of infinite realities because whats seen could be change and thus branch out into different realities. Lets assume you have 2 users like Kata. You have one read the future, but then the future gets read by the other user and repeat. It turns into this loop of everchanging possibilities. I think the reason the Minks ability to hide their presence from CoO was to counter this loop. You also mentioned speed to counter CoO somewhere in your post. We've known that since Amazon Lily. I kinda just skimmed the post but Ill re read what you wrote.0

      Edit: But maybe there might be a level of CoO where everything you see is whats set in stone. Maybe its what Shirley has. But its kinda pointless in battle since you have no clue when itll happen or what leads tp it.

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      @Seafarer33:

      I don't think it should come to something as strict as a cooldown. It works well to balance games, but in comic time it's a lot more difficult to follow through. I would prefer to think that once Kata (or anyone using COO) begins to act on the future they have foreseen, they must instead focus on this and lose their foresight. It would explain how he sometimes fails to predict the consequences of his own actions.
      Also, if a person foresees a possible outcome of events and just continues to stare in the future instead of acting upon it, then that future will simply unravel and they will suffer its consequences. Like taking that bullet to the head or that haki-packed kong gun.

      Hmmm I guess it isnt as easy to show in comic form but I dont think it matters. Its like with the wedding. They had a small window of time where BM becomes weak and succeptible to damage so Oda drew the scene and were literally told how long that scene would be. Yeah its not as smooth but at least the readers know how much time the scene took.

      Yeah that is a thought. When we first were introduced to Kata, he kills that one guy and then tell Bege what would have happened had he not done that. Im starting to think, what Kata sees is nothing but a possibility within many others. I mean think about it, he saw what would have happened if he didnt do anything. But the future was changed because he did something. This is where it really confuses the heck outta me. If we assume youre right, why wouldnt they be able to foresee the new future once theyre acting upon the one they see? Id like to continue woth my thought but thi shit is screwing with my head lol. Like, Oda is going into the realms of infinite outcomes because if Kata can change what he sees, others can also do the same. So if Kata does somethign to change the outcome and someone else sees what Kata sees and counters what Kata is gonna do, the future is changed again. But then, what stops Kata from seeing someone else counter his action? By hiding your intentions. Your presence from the very ability that reads the future in the first place. Im so confused rn. My post is no longer making sense to me atm. Ill rethink tomorrow lol

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      @K.:

      I think that if haki gets drained with usage as seen with armament haki. Then there is no reason for observation haki to not have the same effect.

      Yeah kinda like that. I dont think its running out, but I think the ability of reading further into the future has a cool down timer before he can see into the future again. Like a few seconds to several seconds or so. It makes sense to have a small period of time before each reading of the future because without it, I dont see why Kata cant just read further into the future again once he sees whats to come. Its not like it takes him 5 seconds to see 5 seconds into the future. He sees it before it even happens so why not read the future again before the precognition happens and read past further what you saw before? Just a thought.

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      Just had a thought. I already mentioned this a few mins ago on my previous response but might as well post it again. Isnt it likely that Kata has some sort of cooldown in between each reading of the future? I mean if he didnt, what would stop him from not being able to read past a certain point?

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    • RE: Chapter 885: Grrruuumble

      @Sereques:

      You also need to understand that his CoO is flawed. This was revealed from the beginning. He knew Sanji will dodge priest bullet and didn't see that Sanji will dodge his own shot. He was very surprised Sanji dodged. Even though he can see the future, the future is not set in stone. The future still has many possibilities. He saw Luffy will shrink, but he didn't see Luffy running away. I think that what Bege meant when he told him everyone is in charge of their own future. I can't remember the exact words.

      I believe the key to Luffy defeating him lies within this flaws.

      I dont think its flawed. I just looked at the scene you are referring to and Kata realizes Sanji was gonna dodge. So with that, I think what's flawed is his reflexes. He can see what happens to a certain point but it doesnt mean he can always react to it. It's similar to the fight with the Gorgon sisters and Enel. They were too slow to react to what they saw ahead of time.

      Edit: Oh shit youre right lol. I didnt see the page after xD Gotta revise my post

      Revised thought: Okay. What I said earlier still applies but doesnt explain the scene you were referring to. But even so, I still stand with the ability not being flawed. Im not exactly sure how to explain it. This is probably like the situation when Luffy became dumb and was no longer able to be read by Enel. But instead of that, Sanji can create the same effect by using what the Minks do by hiding their presence somehow. Back in Zou, Luffy was surprised he was surrounded and thats when we found out you can hide your presence. So if you are able to hide your presence from CoO, its possible you can create the same effect Luffy was able to do back in Skypeia. And if that the case, its possible CoO could prevent you from seeing the future of someone if they cant be detected by CoO.

      Edit: Another explanation is Katakuri didnt see that far ahead. Its logical to assume the last thing he saw was Sanji dodging the bullet so in turn tries to attack him. But that only works if there is a cool down for his ability which makes sense to have one. I mean, if there wasnt a cool down, wouldnt he be able to continously read the future?

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    • RE: Chapter 884: Who

      @pRopaaNS:

      Sorry, but there is no way Luffy can do that. Luffys DF allows him to merely change elasticity of his body, but he still have to use his muscles and joints to move it. Luffy doesn't have shapeshifting ability like Katakuri does, where Katakuri can freely manipulate exact shape and size of his mochi without any effort.

      I think he could. With more control of his body he definitely could. So far Luffy has seemingly stretched out his head back in FI and wrapped it around Nami, he's pumped his legs to increase bloodflow, used that homing attack with G4, inflate and deflate at will, control an involutary portion of his body to digest food, pull his fist in while in G4, etc. Luffy should definitely be able to reshape himself at will with more control besides opening a hole in him of course. But shaping his body in different ways I think is plausible for Luffy. Will he do it? Maybe not.

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      And one more thing, hell, Luffy has gotten to the point of isolating a portion of his body to use G2.

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    • RE: Chapter 884: Who

      @BattleFranky69:

      I get that it's weird, it just defies the typical convention of how Paramecia fruits work. Luffy's made of rubber and can alter his body shape, yes, but he can't PRODUCE rubber or manipulate it outside of his own body. Doflamingo, contrastingly, cannot turn his body into strings or give it the properties of strings (just creating a decoy that looks like him out of them) but can infinitely produce and manipulate them. So usually when you get the best of both worlds in that way, it's a Logia. But Katakuri seems to enjoy that dual benefit without actually being a Logia. I just find that a little annoying because then it blurs the lines between the conventional definitions that separate them and makes the whole thing go out the window. I really don't see why it benefits from not being a Logia when he could still do absolutely everything he's already doing with one of those anyway, and more.

      Basically, Katakuri can do everything a Paramecia is able to do with a hint of Logia. The main thing, as Ive pointed out that prevents him from being a Logia is due to the fact he doesmt have the natural defenses of a Logia. Kizaru for example. You slice him, shoot him, whatever, and nothing will happen without him having to do a thing. Katakuri on the other hand literally has to reshape his body. I dont know why Oda did this but you cant classify him as anything but a Paramecia. A Special Paramecia in fact due to him being able to turn into his ability whilst lacking the defense of a Logia. The conventional definitions are still there. Anything that doesnt belong in the Zoan or Logia category is a Paramecia. Its no different with Blackbeard. Why isnt he a Paramecia even though he lacks the defense of a Logia? That I aint even sure of.

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    • RE: Chapter 884: Who

      @BattleFranky69:

      New guy here, howdy. Gonna throw some things out there.

      I don't get how Katakuri's DF is only a Paramecia if it can affect his body shape; I mean, it's not like Trebon's from Doflamingo's group where his skinny body was just hiding in his sticky slime, so how is it not Logia? I know his is awakened, but that's still pretty badly blurring the lines between the two. Or was I mistaken and his movement just makes it APPEAR like he's changing the shape of his body? Because I re-read the chapter and the words actually say it's a little of both, so that's really confusing.

      But I agree with others who've said Luffy will find a way to make him lose his cool, like taunting him about his mouth, or hey, maybe even talking smack about his mama. And if his finishing blow happens to send Katakuri flying into whatever mirror Brulee is hiding in, well, Luffy can make his escape unmolested by Brulee's shenanigans.

      It just feels weird how the timing on all of this is supposed to work out. It's so hard to believe the chase between Big Mom and the ship, and the time it takes to make the cake, prep it for delivery and then taking it wherever it needs to go, is all going to be exactly right to work out perfectly.

      And I know Luffy already got on her bad side once, and she didn't really do anything about it, and even when she knew full well she was going to have Pudding put a bullet between Sanji's eyes, she still spared Luffy and Nami when they were locked up, when there was no need for it. Seriously confusing, but this makes me think there's a pretty empty threat of them coming after the Straw Hats again once they've gotten out of her immediate territory. Unless there's so much time needed to recover from the whuppings the Straw Hats have put on her top commanders and they take priority on rebuilding and regrouping before going on any further revenge missions. Plus there's Bege and the Vinsmokes to think about too, in terms of who needs to be punished.

      Katakuri's fruit is weird. But it makes sense. What makes him not a logia is due to the fact that he cant be attacked without being hurt. Katakuri satates he shapes his body in order to dodge meaning he cant just stand there and have things go through him. Luffy could actually do the same if he tries. He's got enough control over his body to inflate and deflate at will, stretch his limbs with little to no force. Not saying he can now but he probably could replicate what Katakuri does.

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    • RE: Two new One Piece games revealed (PlayStation VR and ¿¿??)

      Hype 🔥🔥🔥 please be a aaa one piece game 🙏🙏🙏

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    • RE: One Piece: Burning Blood

      @MasterKingJC:

      You have to push both buttons at the same time. However, the attack frames for each guard break is different for most characters. Some have fast ones while others have slow ones.
      It works against logia guard and regular guard.

      Ah. I didnt realize it has to be at the same time @_@ It just says Square + X and usually that means you press them right after the other to pull off moves. Will try it tomorrow. Already beat the Luffy episode and got a game of PvP. Got wrecked my Jozu. Was doing okay but then Jozu happened.

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    • RE: One Piece: Burning Blood

      @MasterKingJC:

      Square + X = light guard break
      Triangle + O = heavy guard break

      I am aware of the buttons to use but it doesnt work sometime. I thought I had it but I actually dont. When exactly do you use the move? When theyre blocking or in logia right? And whenever I press the right combination of buttons, nothing really happens for the most part.

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      Do I just suck or is doing the guard break a fucking pain in the butt to pull off? I bought the game for the PS4 today and it says it's square and then X to guard break. Took me about 10 minutes to finally get it and Im not even sure how I did it @_@ Then the heavy guard break came next. Took me less time since I just kept mashing the buttons that make it happen. Now Im stuck again. As I am typing this, Im against Kuma and the game wants me to do a ranged attack branch and guard break branch. But I can't effin do it. Im sure it has to do with timing but god damn. This is frustrating.

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      Figured it out. Such a simple mechanic yet I managed to make it complicated.

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    • RE: Chapter 850: Ray of Hope

      @Count:

      I know lol. I apologize if when I typed "humans", you mistook me for saying the whole race.

      I definitely did xD

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    • RE: Chapter 850: Ray of Hope

      @Count:

      Of course. But to be fair, even though humans can definitely be stronger than every other race, the series still loves to hype up the power of other species and whatnot. Even Sea Kings to this day when the first chapter had them one-shotted lol (not that there aren't different types like in the Calm Belts and Fishman Island).

      It's rather unclear as of now. But given how the story is becoming more focused on Giants with Big Mom, Kaido, and Elbaf on the horizon, these bounties can certainly become more relevant and elaborated on.

      I should have worded that differently. I meant a human can be stronger than members of another race but the entire human race cant be stronger than the others if we take what each race is capable of doing at an average. Stronger in this context refers to physical strength alone.

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    • RE: Chapter 850: Ray of Hope

      @Count:

      I thought about that too, but to be fair, Giants as a race are much more known for being combative and strength-oriented. And mermaids are different from their counterparts because of how fast they are renowned to be. If, say, a Celestial Dragon wants to have slave due to some major lifting work, I don't think they would be likely to say "Hey, let's get a Mink or Longarm to do this". They're probably going to say a Giant, or at least a hybrid. And with a choice as specific as that, it makes sense to go for the type that might be renowned to be the strongest. And Oda has acknowledged the superficial belief of men being stronger than women in his manga in instances such as Zoro's flashback with Kuina, Sanji's chivalry, and "beautiful" female often being the weakest members of major antagonist crews or acknowledging how weak they are.

      I am not denying strength cant be used. Im sure strength has something to do with it since the races that are worth more than humans have been shown to be stronger than humans on average. Keyword here is average. Humans can be stronger but the price is set based on the average human rather than statistical outliers. To sum up my thoughts, the price of races involves strength but I dont think strength is used to determine the prices when the sexes are differentiated.

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    • RE: One Piece: Burning Blood

      Is this game still kicking on the Ps4? Recently got one yesterday. Planning on getting this. Its 20 bucks new at gamestop. Pretty odd simce the pre-owned version costs more 😵

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      Just rechecked the price. Digital is 60, pre-owned is 28 and new is 20. Dafuq? @_@

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