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    • Natty Bumppo
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      I know very few have digital cable (I dont have it) but on Cinemax there is a very interesting show named Dexter. I dont know if anyone here has watched it (if you dont have digital calbe you can easily DL through bittorent), but it is a very good show.

      Basic Plot: A sociopathic cop leads a double life as a serial killer.

      Has anyone, bsides me, seen it, or even heard of it? It would be cool to see who else sees it, although I doubt anyone has even heard of it.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dexter_%28TV_series%29 the wikipedia article on it for further reading and synopsis.

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        I haven't seen it, but my friend was telling me all about it. I bought her the book for christmas. Darkly Dreaming Dexter. Sounds intersting, but not sure if I would like all the blood. (I'm asuming there's lots of that stuff, being a serial killer and all)

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          Yeah, I am also currently reading Darkly Dreaming Dexter. The book is quite similar to the TV show (obivously).

          And yes, there is quite a bit of blood…..a lot actually. And nudity. But its still a great show nonetheless.

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            I LOVE Dexter, it really manages to pull you in and keep you hooked. Typical for a cable show to have tons of gore and nudity, but within the context of the show its all done very well, not raunchy or innapropriate at all.

            With Dexter AND a new season of Sleeper Cell, plus the now cancelled Dead Like Me and Queer as Folk, Showtime is like m best friend lol.

            ArticUNO ZapDOS MolTRES!!!!!!!!

            Holy crap, I never noticed that!

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              Im glad I am not the only person here who watches it.

              Have you seen episode 8?

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                is it coming to DVD soon? I wanted to get them for my friend's b-day, but I got her the second novel instead.

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                  I dont think its coming to DVD anytime soon. The series started at about the same time as Death Note started. So, it only has about 10 episodes or so.

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                    Lol, first thought that came in my mind when reading the thread title was Dexter's Lab.

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                      i guess i gotta bring this one back. Everyone who can stomach the gore should watch this one but dont marathon it because you'll want much much more. Micheal C. Hall is the man and is getting some award noms and wins (the best actor for the screen actors guild awards being one and he is nominated for an emmy). Anyone know anything remotely similar to this show that i should check out or at least, is Six Feet Under worth my time? Im kinda dying for more of Hall. (mancrush?)

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                        FINALLY.

                        Another person who watches Dexter. I havent seen past episode 9 because sadly, I dont want to be Dexterless till October. And plus Im still trying to finish the 1st novel. I am trying to read it fast though, I need to watch Dexter.

                        As for Six Feet Under, Ive never seen it. But I do know, that Michael C. Hall's character is gay in Six Feet Under. Thats about it. I dont have tiime to watch the show, if not I probably would. I liked him in Dexter.

                        And I gotta say, I did expect THAT GUY to be the Ice Truck Killer.

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                          Oh man, you have yet to see the great season finale! I wish the season was longer though. How is the book? i hear some great things.

                          Oh yeah, it was obvious that that guy was the killer. There is a big twist though behind him.

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                            The book, is different from the series. I mean the guy who poses as the Ice truck killer is some other guy. I mean as far as I know. And there is A LOT of filler in the series. Like the whole thing with that latino guy (not the one who was smuggling Cuban immiugrants, the other one. - the Cuban thing was filler too). Yeah, alot of filler. But if the filler wasnt there, the season would have only been like 6 episodes at the most.

                            But the filler in the series is one of the few times a filler is actually good. I think the box set should be coming out soon. I cant wait till this October, its when the new season comes out.

                            Now, I am more anxious to watch the final episodes of the season. Although….I really dont like it when he kills people.....I mean its ok. But I hated when he killed the psychiatrist.....but it was cool at the same time.

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                              @Buuhan1:

                              Lol, first thought that came in my mind when reading the thread title was Dexter's Lab.

                              Great minds think alike…

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                                October is way too far away.

                                There are so many reprocussions from the ending, you wouldnt even believe. Finish watching Natty (just to be clear, you got this name from the character in the series in which one of the books is Last of the Mohicans, right?)!!! The key to the entire season is in the finale. We can't really talk about anything until you finish 🙂

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                                  Ill try watching it, I guess the book can wait.

                                  And yes, my name does come from James Fenimore Cooper's character named Nathaniel "Natty" Bumppo from the Last of the Mohicans and other novels.

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                                    Meh just quickly skimming everything and I get either The Dexter's Lab feeling by reading the title or the Detective Conan anime feel.
                                    From what I read its about a kid who was orphaned at the age of three and liked to kill? Yet a cop brought him in and taught him good, then the kid became a cop and killed for good?…Am I getting this right?

                                    Is this Show like Detective Conan? Just curious.

                                    – One Piece Grand Line Bout M.U.G.E.N

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                                      this show is probably nothing like detective conan. Unless the series suddenly became about a sociopathic, serial killer that was left at a crime scene only to be adopted by a cop.

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                                        Alright, it's time for some good old fashioned thread necromancy.

                                        (cracks fingers) I've noticed that there seems to be some confusion left here from like a year or two ago about what exactly this show is about. Well, I'll attempt to make things clear without giving everything away with…

                                        Roz's (spoiler-free!) all-purpose Dexter Info Sheet! What is the TV show "Dexter"? "Dexter" is a television series aired on the Showtime channel based (loosely) on a series of novels by Jeff Lindsay. By "Loosely," I mean that the television series so far has not directly followed the novels: in fact, several major plot points as well as a few names have been modified for the television version.

                                        Plot Overview
                                        The Dexter series follows the happenings in the life of Dexter, a blood spatter analyst for the Miami Police Department and a serial killer on the side. Dexter is plagued (or blessed?) by a lack of real emotions, and constantly has to pretend in order to seem "normal." He's good at what he does - acting for others constantly, murder, and blood pattern analyzing - almost too good. Although a few people occasionally find him creepy, Dexter mostly passes off his lack of emotions as genuine social awkwardness and ignorance: only one man constantly finds him suspicious. Of course, Dexter would never let anyone find out about his secret [laboratory, lol]… Would he?

                                        Dexter: The Books!
                                        There are two Dexter books currently available:
                                        Darkly Dreaming Dexter and Dearly Devoted Dexter. The third, Dexter in the Dark is scheduled for a September 18 (One week away!) release in the U.S. and an October 3 release in the U.K. A fourth novel, Dear Daddy Dexter, is said to be in the works. The first two chapters of Dexter in the Dark are viewable by owners of the Dexter series DVD.

                                        As previously mentioned, the television series has strayed pretty significantly from the original novels (But in an awesome way). If anyone wants elaborations on this, feel free to ask. The primary difference, though, is Dexter's "Dark Passenger." The DP (Hurhurhur) is described as something like a separate entity that controls Dexter that he acquired at a young age - something like a voice in his head that drives him to kill. This is rarely if ever referenced in the television series, but is very greatly emphasized in the novels.

                                        More about the TV series!
                                        The Dexter TV series stars Michael C. Hall as Dexter, and man does he ever do one hell of a job. The television series is amazing, and I've made it a goal to impose it on as many people as possible. The first season spans 12 episodes, and each episode is one hour long. While each one tends to contain one or more episodic aspect such as a situation or story involving a side character or a case that needs to be solved on the side of the main objective, the series does follow one main plot. It is highly encouraged that you watch episodes in order.

                                        The first season, for a large part, followed Darkly Dreaming Dexter. The second season, however, is an original story using the same as well as a few new characters. It doesn't seem to have much if any relationship to the second novel. The first two episodes have leaked on the internet as of mid-July.

                                        Is there any reason not to watch Dexter?

                                        Not that I can think of!

                                        DVD Set
                                        The first season of the Dexter TV series was released in DVD format on August 21, 2007. I haven't looked too much into this other than the packaging because I've been a bit busy lately, but I'll detail what I know about it: Obviously, it features the 12 episodes of the first season.

                                        As previously mentioned, the set contains the first two chapters of Dexter in the Dark. I haven't read them yet, but an insert that came with the DVD set gives a hint of what it's about:

                                        ! "As if dodging a gruesome competitor and dealing with the disappearance of his Dark Passenger weren't enough, Dexter also faces one of the most troubling things that could happen to any guy… Planning a wedding."
                                        Another insert informs me that the soundtrack will be released on August 28.

                                        Finally, the third insert features a rather cheerful looking Dexter and informs us that the new season begins on September 30.

                                        The special features include two commentary tracks, as well as a laundry list of other things (including some other Showtime series whoring). I can't really say what most of the special features are because the titles of them as listed on the case don't tell exactly what they are.

                                        SECOND SEASON STARTS SEPTEMBER 30!
                                        ARE YOU EXCITED?

                                        Heck yes!!

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                                          I know I am stoked for the new season. I wouldve wished though, that they kept to the books. The books are really well written (for the most part) and it was a shame that

                                          ! They killed off Dexter's brother, but didnt kill LaGuerta.

                                          The show is still major kick ass, and anyone with a fine taste for good television should watch it.

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                                            I don't get Showtime or Cinemax or whatever channel Dexter airs on, but I've read the two books. I'm kind of glad that they're going in a different direction with the new season, since there was some seriously creepy shit in the second novel.

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                                              @Natty:

                                              I know I am stoked for the new season. I wouldve wished though, that they kept to the books. The books are really well written (for the most part) and it was a shame that

                                              ! They killed off Dexter's brother, but didnt kill LaGuerta.

                                              The show is still major kick ass, and anyone with a fine taste for good television should watch it.

                                              You're disappointed about that? I liked it significantly better, although that could partially be because:

                                              ! LaGuerta is just smokin' hot as hell.

                                              Haha, yeah Rixter. It's still pretty damn creepy, but it seems to be a lot different so far. I'm not completely sure what direction they're trying to take it since I've only seen the first two episodes. Although I can tell you that some major shit is going down just from those two.

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                                                @Roz:

                                                You're disappointed about that? I liked it significantly better, although that could partially be because:

                                                ! LaGuerta is just smokin' hot as hell.

                                                Haha, yeah Rixter. It's still pretty damn creepy, but it seems to be a lot different so far. I'm not completely sure what direction they're trying to take it since I've only seen the first two episodes. Although I can tell you that some major shit is going down just from those two.

                                                Hot? I dont think so, she looks like a guy. In a way…..

                                                What I dont understand about the books is that, if the author is American, why does the UK get the book before we do? Shouldnt it be the other way around?

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                                                  Correct me if I'm wrong, but last time I checked, September was before October.

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                                                    Oops, my bad. Earlier (like earlier in the year) I read that the UK was getting the book first. So I still thought that was happening. I just chekced wikipedia, and it says different. My bad.

                                                    So yeah…uhh...Dexter.....

                                                    How do you think Dexter will find out more about his past if

                                                    ! His brother is dead in the show.

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                                                      Uh… About that.

                                                      ! What is there to find out? He found out what happened to his parents and about the details of the crime scene that he was left at, and he obviously knows what happened to his brother. He has always had a clear memory of what happened after he was found at the crime scene.

                                                      I'm not really sure what else there could possibly be to it.

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                                                        Well, I was browsing TV last night and found a pleasant surprise. The 101, an exclusive channel of DirecTV which usually shows music concerts and shows ran by popular YouTube bloggers is showing the series. When I found it the first episode "Dexter" was over, but I watched the second episode "Crocodile" and loved it.

                                                        The first episode was aired again at 11pm, but I was too tired. They seem to gonna be showing the entire first season, I don't know how edited it is but I can tell strong language like "fuck" has been replaced and the like. There's like 5 minutes worth of Showtime commercials between each episode, so this is definitely a deal they did.

                                                        So, yeah. I'm looking forward to watching this series.
                                                        (Yes, I lack Showtime and all movie channels if you couldn't tell.)

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                                                          @Roz:

                                                          Uh… About that.

                                                          ! What is there to find out? He found out what happened to his parents and about the details of the crime scene that he was left at, and he obviously knows what happened to his brother. He has always had a clear memory of what happened after he was found at the crime scene.

                                                          I'm not really sure what else there could possibly be to it.

                                                          There has to be more. I know that that cant be it.

                                                          There was something bugging me about it, but I havent seen/read Dexter in a while so I dont remember…

                                                          @Buuhan1:

                                                          Well, I was browsing TV last night and found a pleasant surprise. The 101, an exclusive channel of DirecTV which usually shows music concerts and shows ran by popular YouTube bloggers is showing the series. When I found it the first episode "Dexter" was over, but I watched the second episode "Crocodile" and loved it.

                                                          The first episode was aired again at 11pm, but I was too tired. They seem to gonna be showing the entire first season, I don't know how edited it is but I can tell strong language like "fuck" has been replaced and the like. There's like 5 minutes worth of Showtime commercials between each episode, so this is definitely a deal they did.

                                                          So, yeah. I'm looking forward to watching this series.
                                                          (Yes, I lack Showtime and all movie channels if you couldn't tell.)

                                                          I dont have Showtime either, but thats what bittorent is for:ninja:; and in your case, that 101 channel.

                                                          Dexter really is a great series. It has a lot of profanity, nudity, and gore so most of it might be edited, but most of it is just extra things that they dont really need. I hope you enjoy it more.

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                                                            Just finished watching the series finale on the 101. Shame I was spoiled the other night before an episode came on by a season 2 preview-

                                                            ! The brother thing and Dexter ending him.
                                                            but it wasn't too bad even with that. And hey, Showtime is having a free preview during when season 2 premieres so I'll be able to see that too.

                                                            I gotta say, this series has the best opening I've ever seen. Hope they keep it.

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                                                              Ooh, yes, the opening sequence is absolutely delightful, and I hope that they keep it as well. I so want the camera that they filmed it with~ I think it won some kind of award recently, too.

                                                              Sucks that you got spoilered, though! It doesn't make sense that they would have to include that detail in a season 2 preview unless it was a very lengthy one - they could have just stuck with the basic concept that

                                                              ! ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE. Dexter was one of the first things I've ever really watched all the way through without anyone giving me a spoiler to it, and the surprises were spectacular. Although I doubt that some of them wouldn't be all that much less impressive had I known about them in advance due to the mere fact that they're set up so well. One in particular that I think would be ruined by a spoiler is (Episode 5-6 spoiler: )
                                                              ! The picture of Jesus. Takes away a little bit of the suspense value that literally had me clawing at my face through roughly half the first season.

                                                              Season 2 starts in just a few days. I feel like a kid waiting for Christmas morning here.

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                                                                Yeah, seeing how I was just watching this on TV and avoiding discussions I had absolutely zero spoilers and I was on the edge of my seat. Even being spoiled by that didn't effect me too much.

                                                                The season 2 preview was pretty short (tho I changed it), but basically it started out as-

                                                                ! Dexter is coping with what he has just done.
                                                                Dexter: I killed my brother
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                                                                Me: OH SHI-! changes channel
                                                                Me: aaaah…dammit

                                                                But it's fine, when that was revealed they didn't play it out as a big "HOLY SHIT!" moment. But the series didn't seem to do that anywhere, which is one of the great aspects about it.

                                                                I definitely want the Season 1 DVD set.

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                                                                  The only complaint I have about the DVD set is the obnoxious Showtime promo at the beginning of two (I think it was two) of the discs (And "Crocodile" kept skipping at random points! It was fresh out of the case! Grr!), but at least the promos are expected and easily skipped over.

                                                                  I still have yet to watch the special features, though…

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                                                                    How much does it retail for? bout $40-50?

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                                                                      I paid $30 for it, but I had a bit of a discount. I think it's usually $40.

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                                                                        Ah, damn. I can never find any DVD discount/used stores around here, suppose that's largely online now.

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                                                                          OKAY SO

                                                                          Second season of Dexter premiered last night. I don't have the channel it's on so I had to stick to watching it in spirit. I'm sure that we all know well of the leak that happened in July by now, though. Called it an early birthday present.

                                                                          Notes on the first episode: It was both hilarious and terrifying. In other words, it was perfect. Just what you expect from Dexter. I know that some of us were pretty shaky about it because it's not following the book (Which would usually bother me A LOT, but they're making it work incredibly well.), but they've managed to do one hell of a job. The story, the suspense, the humor, and the acting continue to impress me to no end. Absolutely spectacular.

                                                                          Notable parts of the episode:

                                                                          ! -Doakes. Doakes Doakes Doakes. It's all about Doakes right now and I love it.
                                                                          -The plot of Rita and Paul thickens.
                                                                          -EVERYONE GOES CRAZY.
                                                                          -Dexter: Just lookin' at some porn.

                                                                          I can tell everyone already that the next episode (s2e2) is going to be an absolute treat.

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                                                                            Saw the season 2 premiere due to Showtime's free preview weekend which was in effect. Sadly, I missed the audio of the first part of the episode up till

                                                                            ! Dexter strung up the blind dude and when it came on for the second time that night I was just too tired to watch anything. But it seems like nothing really note worthy was talked about.

                                                                            But I tell ya, it was odd to watch this with all the f bombs flying after watching the entire first season edited with stuff like "Mother Lover!", and I swear I saw some boobies! (XD)

                                                                            Pity I don't got Showtime, guess I'm gonna be stuck with watching the series on the computer from now on. I'mma miss watching it on my 54". ;_;

                                                                            ! P.S. Anyone know the URL to that site Dexter was viewing as a coverup? XD nice tits

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                                                                              Just wanted to inform my local Target is selling the first season DVD for $19.99, so most places are probably doing the same.

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                                                                                While we're at it, anyone catch last night's episode? It was the first one that hadn't leaked in July.

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                                                                                  Sadly, I've only seen episode 1 of season 2. I have no choice but to download from this point on. I'm wondering if I should do that now or wait till all the episodes are aired, tho.

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                                                                                    Sadly, I havent even had time to watch episode 1. Is the season good so far?

                                                                                    Is the

                                                                                    ! Hangman Guy from book 2 the new antagonist?

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                                                                                      From what I can gather from the first episode

                                                                                      ! All of Dexter's victims bodies were discovered, and they declare a new serial killer is on the loose.
                                                                                      Tho I may be mistaken.

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                                                                                        Sadly, I havent even had time to watch episode 1. Is the season good so far?

                                                                                        Is the

                                                                                        ! Hangman Guy from book 2 the new antagonist?

                                                                                        Nope. The plot of the show is going in a completely different direction than it did in the book. I think I mentioned this earlier, at some point.

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                                                                                          Recent episode was pretty good.

                                                                                          ! I liked the inclusion of the Dark Passenger, if in name only and Lila(I think that's her name) gave a very interesting speech about it. Though I doubt it'll ever have a voice, it exists at least.
                                                                                          ! Lundy is a very nice addition to the story as he seems like someone with intelligence on par or greater than Dexter himself. Curious to see how much his suspicions will rise as he gets closer and closer to the truth. It seems like he'll be taking the role of the Ice Truck Killer as someone Dexter's matching wits against as the show moves forward.
                                                                                          ! At the end of this episode, it felt like Doakes gave up too easily on his pursuit for Dexter. First he mentions about connections between Dexter and the Ice Truck Killer, then rides all this hiding and sneaking as a way to hid his substance abuse. That didn't make much sense, unless Doakes is trying to get Dexter to lower his guard.

                                                                                          Also, how much of this should be wrapped in spoiler text, since it is a thread about Dexter, spoilers should be implied. Sorry for just darkening everything, but I'm not sure how to place spoiler text.

                                                                                          "Yeah, I only wish Manny were here to see this."

                                                                                          "…Then why did you kill him?"

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                                                                                            I just finished watching the episode a short while ago. Very, very interesting.

                                                                                            ! It seems like Dexter is getting into mental struggles with just about everyone in this season - Rita, Doakes, Lundy, car salesman guy, himself, Lila, others.
                                                                                            ! I can't shake the feeling that things will change pretty drastically if/when the bodies found in the Bay are identified 100% for sure. I have the feeling that the discussion Lundy had with Dexter when he was dropping off the X-rays (Summarized: Lundy seems to believe that it's okay to kill someone if it'll save someone else.) is going to be important.
                                                                                            ! Comments in the end of the first season also point to the possibility of the acceptance of the killings as some kind of beneficial vigilante act rather than a horrible group of murders.
                                                                                            ! Another interesting question is, how will the media play into this? We've seen how important media is to the police department and their work. Will they be informed of just who gets iced and (theories regarding) why?

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                                                                                              Nope. The plot of the show is going in a completely different direction than it did in the book. I think I mentioned this earlier, at some point.

                                                                                              Well yeah, but

                                                                                              ! Dexter's brother was still the main villian for the first season

                                                                                              So I figured

                                                                                              ! the hangman guy from Dearly Devoted Dexter would be the villian of this season, but of course with major alterations

                                                                                              My bad.

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                                                                                                Quite upset. So, I get $60 for my birthday today? What was I gonna use this money for?

                                                                                                Buying my Nami P.O.P., Dexter S1 DVD, and saving the last I have for later. I get down to Target and GUUUEEEESSS WWWWHAAAAAT~? It's no longer $19.99..it's $29.99! They had it on sale when I first saw it, the sale ended and it's back up to it's original price. I wasn't willing to put out $30 for it, cause that'd effect my means of getting my Nami POP.

                                                                                                So I'm just getting Nami ($45) and saving the rest.

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                                                                                                  Just got my hands on episode 4: I'm not sure what I think of this one.

                                                                                                  I'm not really sure that I like where

                                                                                                  ! Rita/Lila thing is heading, but we'll see. Some of it feels sort of tacked on right now, such as the case of Rita's mother and Lila's "HA HA! WE HAVE SO MUCH IN COMMON!" bit. It occasionally feels a little… Forced. The only thing that made the visit from Rita's mother relevant was the discussion that took place at the dinner table, which was mostly just "Cody's freaked out by the spooky Bay Harbor Butcher, Rita's mom doesn't disapprove of icing criminals. Also, Dexter's thoughts during said meeting were pretty cute.

                                                                                                  Also, interesting new

                                                                                                  ! music selections. Definition of "Interesting" being open to interpretation. I found it a little more noticeable than usual.

                                                                                                  In addition, it's about time that

                                                                                                  ! Masuka got some attention. I'm a little disappointed in Dexter for not catching on with the algae talk, though. Even I got that. Nice move on the sabotage(s) from Dexter, though.

                                                                                                  Finally:

                                                                                                  ! Holy shit, LaGuerta. Holy SHIT.

                                                                                                  These were the most prominent things that stood out while watching the episode, really. I may think of more things later.

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                                                                                                    @Roz:

                                                                                                    Just got my hands on episode 4: I'm not sure what I think of this one.

                                                                                                    I'm not really sure that I like where

                                                                                                    ! Rita/Lila thing is heading, but we'll see. Some of it feels sort of tacked on right now, such as the case of Rita's mother and Lila's "HA HA! WE HAVE SO MUCH IN COMMON!" bit. It occasionally feels a little… Forced. The only thing that made the visit from Rita's mother relevant was the discussion that took place at the dinner table, which was mostly just "Cody's freaked out by the spooky Bay Harbor Butcher, Rita's mom doesn't disapprove of icing criminals. Also, Dexter's thoughts during said meeting were pretty cute.

                                                                                                    ! Dexter's narration made that scene much more enjoyable, and I'm assuming Rita's mom is just going to be coming and going rather than around all the time. I am curious how far Rita is going to take her suspicions of Dexter cheating on her and how the relationship is going to end up since the show has already strayed so far from the books.

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                                                                                                    Also, interesting new

                                                                                                    ! music selections. Definition of "Interesting" being open to interpretation. I found it a little more noticeable than usual.

                                                                                                    ! The only two scenes where I really noticed the music was where Lila was driving Dexter around stealing art, and the scene with Deb in the gym. I like both tracks but songs with lyrics are kind of awkward in a show with a lot of dialogue.

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                                                                                                    In addition, it's about time that

                                                                                                    ! Masuka got some attention. I'm a little disappointed in Dexter for not catching on with the algae talk, though. Even I got that. Nice move on the sabotage(s) from Dexter, though.

                                                                                                    ! I didn't catch the algae thing either at first. It just seemed like something so simple it would be easy to overlook. While Dexter's sabotage and coverup were creative it just seems like everytime he solves one problem another arises to chain him to his bodies. I'm curious to see how far he'll take the internal sabotage to keep his identity safe.

                                                                                                    One thing that needs to be mentioned

                                                                                                    ! Doakes kicked all kinds of ass in this episode. I didn't like that they cut away in the middle of his showdown on the boat, but that whole dialogue between the two of them was great. Doakes is easily the most interesting character on this show after Dexter, and I'm excited to see if we learn more of his past. Dr. Danco may even make a slight appearance as a homage to the second book. It'd be a nice way to have Doakes do something that doesn't involve Dexter for a while.

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                                                                                                    Finally:

                                                                                                    ! Holy shit, LaGuerta. Holy SHIT.

                                                                                                    ! Yeah, I didn't see that coming either, though I knew something was up when she thanked the captain for her reinstatement. Pascal was acting pretty unhinged in this episode so it wouldn't surprise me if this comes back to bite LaGuearta in the ass. Overall, plenty of future storylines emerged in this episode while this season continues to center around Dexter's possible exposure. Hopefully Lundy will get some more spotlight into his investigation prowess as I really like his character.

                                                                                                    All in all a good episode.

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                                                                                                    "…Then why did you kill him?"

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                                                                                                      Well, there were several tracks from the first season that had vocal lyrics,
                                                                                                      but they were all a bit more… In context. Before, I never took much notice to the music because it just made sense: Go to a nightclub, you expect to hear music with vocals. Someone turns on a car radio or starts up a CD or record player, same deal. Even zooming out on a cityscape is beautifully accompanied with the vocal music, because it gives you a taste of both the architecture and layout of the city (visual) and hints at the kinds of people who might be living there (vocal) in one quick swoosh of a camera.

                                                                                                      However, I believe that the two we have mentioned were more noticeable because:

                                                                                                      ! Both of the noticeable tracks took place them in specific physical places that would make sense - It would have been totally fine with me if they had that song appear to be conveniently playing on the Jeep radio during the theft scene, or, again, had the song in the gym playing on a portable radio or a TV or something, but the way and timing that they were played made them just seem… There.

                                                                                                      Some things I failed to mention:

                                                                                                      As you said:

                                                                                                      ! Doakes is an incredible character, and any look at his past is sure to be hella interesting, as we've seen. I noticed that this episode in particular had a lot of parts where scenes cut from one to another to another to another at strange times - I hope the writers aren't creating too many little plots about side characters that'll make everything disjointed. We have seen that several of these little side dealies come together neatly: LaGuerta and Pascal's, Lila and Rita, a little hint at Deb and Lundy, Masuka's actually doing something other than occasionally cracking jokes with Angel now, Rita and Doakes, etc. etc. etc. I just want everyone to remember that this series does have a main character, though.

                                                                                                      Another note:

                                                                                                      ! Cody. So far all we've seen is an eventual childish fascination with the Bay Harbor Butcher that resulted from Dexter's reassuring words. However; will we start to see more than just a little interest as things progress?

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                                                                                                        Well, there were several tracks from the first season that had vocal lyrics,
                                                                                                        but they were all a bit more… In context. Before, I never took much notice to the music because it just made sense: Go to a nightclub, you expect to hear music with vocals. Someone turns on a car radio or starts up a CD or record player, same deal. Even zooming out on a cityscape is beautifully accompanied with the vocal music, because it gives you a taste of both the architecture and layout of the city (visual) and hints at the kinds of people who might be living there (vocal) in one quick swoosh of a camera.

                                                                                                        The only time I really notice it is whenever it takes place within the limits of Cuban parts of the city, only because the Latin music takes such prominence in a scene when it's introduced. Aside from radios or Cd's as you've mentioned, I've not noticed the lyrical music. Maybe because it blends well into the background. But in those two scenes, the music just seemed to dominate the scene completely. I could see how they would be in context, but it kind of brought me back into reality for a moment in a scene that would be otherwise engrossing.

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                                                                                                        However, I believe that the two we have mentioned were more noticeable because:

                                                                                                        ! Both of the noticeable tracks took place them in specific physical places that would make sense - It would have been totally fine with me if they had that song appear to be conveniently playing on the Jeep radio during the theft scene, or, again, had the song in the gym playing on a portable radio or a TV or something, but the way and timing that they were played made them just seem… There.

                                                                                                        ! I agree here. Something just seemed out of place with them. I don't know if it was the timing or the context like you said, but I could tell it was awkward.
                                                                                                        ! Concerning things out of place Lila's reaction to the bodies and the whole, freaky-deaky art show just struck me as weird and forced. It seems like they're trying to develop this character too quickly and without knowing why she has such insight into demons it's hard to take what she does seriously.

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                                                                                                        Some things I failed to mention:

                                                                                                        As you said:

                                                                                                        ! Doakes is an incredible character, and any look at his past is sure to be hella interesting, as we've seen. I noticed that this episode in particular had a lot of parts where scenes cut from one to another to another to another at strange times - I hope the writers aren't creating too many little plots about side characters that'll make everything disjointed. We have seen that several of these little side dealies come together neatly: LaGuerta and Pascal's, Lila and Rita, a little hint at Deb and Lundy, Masuka's actually doing something other than occasionally cracking jokes with Angel now, Rita and Doakes, etc. etc. etc. I just want everyone to remember that this series does have a main character, though.

                                                                                                        ! Though there's time to wrap these things up, I do see where having too many subplots could make the show jumpy. In reality, they don't have to follow-up on LaGuerta's affair right away and just hint at it. Lila and Rita seems like it's going to drag across the entire season though I'm not really interested in the potential love triangle. Angel and Masuka make good background characters, but they're mainly comic relief, though Masuka is showing some skill in the recent episodes while Angel's taking more of a backseat. Lundy and Deb are hinting at sexual tension between them, but that won't take much time.
                                                                                                        ! What I'd like to see is more attention on Doakes as he's the only secondary character with an interesting background and as many demons as Dexter. I'd also like to see more Dexter/Lundy interaction as the Bay Harbor Butcher case opens more.

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                                                                                                        Another note:

                                                                                                        ! Cody. So far all we've seen is an eventual childish fascination with the Bay Harbor Butcher that resulted from Dexter's reassuring words. However; will we start to see more than just a little interest as things progress?

                                                                                                        ! I think that was the reason Dexter decided to marry Rita in the books, but I don't know if it's going to lead anywhere. Dexter got his psychosis after seeing his mother cut to pieces with a chainsaw; I'm not sure how Cody would develop the same. But, it was in the books, so it's definately possible.

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