I checked around for this so my humblest apologies if it has already been posted. I wanted to discuss mantra, first off was it in the last arc at all? I don't recall it being said to be used at all, but was there anything similar to it being used by CP 9 or anyone. Also, do people believe that Zoro discovered mantra back in Alubarna when he was fighting Das, that moment between life and death when he could hear everything around him, sounds similar to me. Furthermore do people think it will have a place in the one piece world in the future? Perhaps pirates at the rank of Shanks and Whitebeard know how to use it? Will the straw hats learn how to use it for sure?
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Mantra was just a power of Ener's dudes, an exagerated sensory ability.
Your REALLY misinterpreting that Zoro scene, that wasn't mantra, that was him becoming aware of everything around him more clearly, like in-combat meditation. Common Swordsman discipline stuff. -
I think Sky Islands were introduced for a reason other than a plot device. Gan Fall mentioned other islands in the White-White Sea, so we'll at least see one more before One Piece ends. Who knows? One of the remaining two Emperors could be in control of a sky island. My whole brain just exploded with the possibility of airships and a "Sky Elevator".
As for Mantra itself, I was always under the impression that the thinner air in Skypeia allowed clarity of thought, and mantra was a result of that.
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Then why couldn't any of the Straw Hats use it?
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Because it's something you're either born with (Ala Aisa), or had to train to learn (Ala the priests and Enel). It's not something you'd just pick up while you're up there, or every skypiean and the strawhats could have used it.
I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.
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Well I dont think it was just Enel's and his men's thing, cause Aisa or w/e used it as well, I always thought of it as something they were gifted with, in her and Enels case, since they had strong mantra, or had to develope. I like you're idea though Fire fists, that probably has something to do with it.
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@Fire Fist:
Because it's something you're either born with (Ala Aisa), or had to train to learn (Ala the priests and Enel). It's not something you'd just pick up while you're up there, or every skypiean and the strawhats could have used it.
We don't know that. Sure, some people are gifted with it, but how do you know you can't just pick it up?
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Cause you'd think that Robin or Nami would, with their incredibly high intellect and alertness. Or at least some of the Skypeians. And cmon, Wiper was a beast. If anyone would have Mantra, he would.
I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.
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@Fire Fist:
Cause you'd think that Robin or Nami would, with their incredibly high intellect and alertness. Or at least some of the Skypeians. And cmon, Wiper was a beast. If anyone would have Mantra, he would.
You're making stuff up. There is absolutely no evidence that Mantra is connected to intelligence or physical/fighting ability at all.
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You're making stuff up. There is absolutely no evidence that Mantra is connected to intelligence or physical/fighting ability at all.
Satori: "MANTRA" is the power gifted only to practioners of the arts.
It's something you have to train for. Therefore, it's physical and mental.
I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.
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@Fire Fist:
Satori: "MANTRA" is the power gifted only to practioners of the arts.
It's something you have to train for. Therefore, it's physical and mental.
**It's mental for sure, but there's no evidence that it's really physical.
And if anything, that quote proves Mantra can be learned. As you aren't born practicing an art.**
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Then how do you explain Aisa?
I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.
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@Fire Fist:
Then how do you explain Aisa?
I said it can be learned, not that it has to.
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Thoughts are electrical synapses. What Enel meant was that he was extending the natural synapses of the brain with his ability.
I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.
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Polygon, you are arguing with facts. In the first post, you said "how do you know you can't just pick it up"? The fact is, you can't, and Satori proved that. And because you have to train your senses to use it, no pick-up-and-play feel to it. And someone like Nami would have hightened senses; That's common knowledge.
And Zephos shut down the Zoro theory. If we get more mantra action in future battles, it would be a lot like DB's chi (Which is not a good thing. C'mon, you know where Oda got the idea).
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@Masta:
Polygon, you are arguing with facts. In the first post, you said "how do you know you can't just pick it up"? The fact is, you can't, and Satori proved that. And because you have to train your senses to use it, no pick-up-and-play feel to it. And someone like Nami would have hightened senses; That's common knowledge.
**By pick-up I meant train yourself to learn Mantra, not just have it happen out of nowhere.
The only thing Sasori proved is that one can learn Mantra even if they weren't gifted with it from birth.**
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There is no proof saying you cannot learn mantra, so there is the possibility of asking a mantra user how they do it. They may just say we just feel it, now if they say that theres 2 outcomes
1. You find someone who understands how to teach it or how it works
2. Your screwed
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@Fire Fist:
As for Mantra itself, I was always under the impression that the thinner air in Skypeia allowed clarity of thought, and mantra was a result of that.
Thinking inside the One Piece context my first reaction to this was:
"Hot damn that's smart thanking"
Then I thought about it in a real world context and my head exploded. Only Oda…
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The argument that intelligence has something to do with being able to use/learn Mantra is totally whack. In Skypiea alone we´ve seen much people that are not as dumb as Satori and yet he was able to use it. If he counts as intelligent then something is completely wrong here.
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What's your definition of smart, Ivotas? Satori wasn't an idiot, he just sucked at fighting and was eccentric. A lot of smart people are eccentric. Look at Albert Einstein. I'm not saying he was a genius or anything, but he wasn't a blockhead like Luffy.
I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.
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the theory that since nami is intelligent, and since mantra can be learned, she should have learned it is totally crap… :S
maybe she didn't want to learn it, maybe she didn't have time to learn it, maybe she didn't have the opportunity to learn it, maybe she is not capable of learning it. (there are different types of intelligence, some ppl learn maths easier than they learn languages)
U cannot assume that since nami/robin didn't learn mantra, than this is not learnable... then knowing how to cook cannot be learned, coz nami never learned and she is intelligent. Medicine cannot be taught coz robin never learned it even though being with chopper on the ship...
Mantra needs clearing, but basing a theory on since Nami/Robin didn't learn it so it cannot be learned is stupid.
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So Satori is Albert Einstein of OP world?
Mantra was Rokushiki of Skypiean arc. A gimmick, in a good sense, which was there to spice up fights but which was never really properly explained. Dials were also like that but those were actually carried to other stories too. I guess we coud still see Mantra again, perhaps if Straw Hats would meet someone(s) from a sky island.
Mantra was a reason why I wanted Aisa to join the crew. Who cares of Wiper…
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Mantra is at least partly mentel, for sure. But to say that it has anything to do with intelligence is an absolutley baseless asumption.
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@Fire Fist:
What's your definition of smart, Ivotas? Satori wasn't an idiot, he just sucked at fighting and was eccentric. A lot of smart people are eccentric. Look at Albert Einstein. I'm not saying he was a genius or anything, but he wasn't a blockhead like Luffy.
Erm you seriously don´t want me to write an essay about the different ways of looking at intelligence do you?
To make it short, Satori did absolutely nothing that proved that he was intelligent in some sort of way that he is far superior to ALL the other people we´ve seen at Skypiea.
Perhaps you should define what exactly made him much more intelligent then all the Skypieans that make him use Mantra while the others couldn´t.
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I don't wish to argue how to learn it. I just wanna say that it is an ownage skill.
Seriously if you can predict everything that is going to happen around you a second or two before it happens, how are you going to not be prepared?
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Erm you seriously don´t want me to write an essay about the different ways of looking at intelligence do you?
To make it short, Satori did absolutely nothing that proved that he was intelligent in some sort of way that he is far superior to ALL the other people we´ve seen at Skypiea.
Perhaps you should define what exactly made him much more intelligent then all the Skypieans that make him use Mantra while the others couldn´t.
Oh, cmon, that's easy and it should be obvious to you.
Skypeians were cattle. They did whatever Enel told them without question until Conis actually spoke up. And even then, they treated her pretty crappily at first.
I'm 100% sure that Enel told his priests what Mantra was, trained them in it, and what you saw in the Skypeia Arc is what the result was.
No, Satori was not the smartest book on the shelf, but he was superior to the Skypeians in the essence that he wasn't one of thousands of cattle, being suppressed.
I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.
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Im 100% sure that Enel is gonna tell those little gophers on the moon what mantra is! and get himself new priests!
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@Fire Fist:
Oh, cmon, that's easy and it should be obvious to you.
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@Fire Fist:
Skypeians were cattle. They did whatever Enel told them without question until Conis actually spoke up. And even then, they treated her pretty crappily at first.
Mindless sheep mean following orders without thinking. But that doesn't make them stupid. During the Nazi regime and Soviet Russia regime there were plenty of brilliant scientist but none of them ever questioned authority. Does that make them any less brilliant? Your definition of intelligence contains a contradiction therefore it is erroneous. Try harder next time!
@Fire Fist:
I'm 100% sure that Enel told his priests what Mantra was, trained them in it, and what you saw in the Skypeia Arc is what the result was.
I've got just three statements to make. Try and see if you can follow them through.
1. 0% of what you stated was shown in the manga.
2. Therefore I am 100% certain all this is purely your speculation.
3. Thus, I am safe to say, you can not be 100% sure what you claim is true.@Fire Fist:
No, Satori was not the smartest book on the shelf, but he was superior to the Skypeians in the essence that he wasn't one of thousands of cattle, being suppressed.
So not being suppressed = smart :wassat: ???
Are, so this is yoru definition of being smart? I think this is where your argument deteriorates.As mentioned about the Soviet and Nazi, the KGB and Hitler's Waffen SS (Storm Trooper) did the suppressing so by your standard they must be the SMARTEST people in their country. This must mean KGB and Storm Trooper for the next Einstein!!!!!!
Note: Discussing One Piece is all good and I enjoy reading speculations and seeing how many come true. But I just get annoyed when people pass off their speculation as fact and say they are certain they are correct.
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@Fire Fist:
Oh, cmon, that's easy and it should be obvious to you.
Skypeians were cattle. They did whatever Enel told them without question until Conis actually spoke up. And even then, they treated her pretty crappily at first.
Obeying somebody because he is superior to you doesn´t make you less intelligent then him. That´s a totally whack definition of intelligence.
I'm 100% sure that Enel told his priests what Mantra was, trained them in it, and what you saw in the Skypeia Arc is what the result was.
That´s the point. A extremely good boxer could turn a complete moron into a more or less skilled boxer that could take down lots of intelligent people who don´t know how to fight. That´s exactly what Enel teaching his priest this skill is all about.
No, Satori was not the smartest book on the shelf, but he was superior to the Skypeians in the essence that he wasn't one of thousands of cattle, being suppressed.
As always you are completely missing the point. When I say Skypieans then ALL should be included and not just the back ground types. Characters like Konis, McKinley and even the Shandians like Wiper, the Chieftain etc. have to be included since they in this land. And so far Konis, McKinley, Wiper and Chieftain, hell Gun Fall all definitely show more intelligence then Satori and yet they can´t use Mantra.
The entire cattle thing is totally lacking any sense because it generelases everyone (main characters AND background types) which is always a bad thing to do. Furthermore Simplicio´s example with the reference to the Nazi regime is great. That´s exactly why you can´t generally call people stupid when they don´t follow the leader.
Are you really trying to tell me that the Skypieans would be more intelligent if they would not obey Enel start a revolution against him and die that way? Heck that guy may not have been a real god, but compared to the rest his powers were godlike.
You need brains to handle such an enemy. McKinley showed it by using the White Berrets as the institution that watches out for order on Angel Island. By working for Enel they could secretly try to find out where Gun Falls mean were hidden and keep Enel and the Priests away from Angel Island.
Stupidity can be the cause to follow a bad leader but then we´re talking of blind narrowminded followers. People who follow a leader in order to live to fight on another day are not stupid but intelligent because they carefully reconsider what the best solution might be to live without selling their soul. -
in mz opinion the point of Oda making that whole skypea arc was to make nami and usop stronger thaks to dials… and he couldnt put dials on some island in the blue sea.
He just created mantra so SHs would have some obstacles on their way their goal in that arc
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Skypea ark rocked, it was def for more than that, it was to give a sense of adventure, an even greater one to one piece.
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Obeying somebody because he is superior to you doesn´t make you less intelligent then him. That´s a totally whack definition of intelligence.
That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that living in fear without action is ignorance. A leader cannot kill every single person, or he has no one left to rule. If everyone resists as a whole, that leader cannot just go kill everyone. If he does, then he's left with nothing.
Yes, Enel was planning to do that all along, but that's not a thing that happens in real life.
Look at France and Bastille Day. Louis XVI was not stupid. When they stormed Bastille, he could've sent his troops and literally blown up Paris. But did he? No, he backed down.
Yes, Enel is not as rational as your average leader, so the logic doesn't apply here. But suppression without reaction is not logical.
That´s the point. A extremely good boxer could turn a complete moron into a more or less skilled boxer that could take down lots of intelligent people who don´t know how to fight. That´s exactly what Enel teaching his priest this skill is all about.
Problem is, we don't know if he taught them or they learned on their own efforts. If it's the latter, then Satori isn't as dumb as you think.
As always you are completely missing the point. When I say Skypieans then ALL should be included and not just the back ground types. Characters like Konis, McKinley and even the Shandians like Wiper, the Chieftain etc. have to be included since they in this land. And so far Konis, McKinley, Wiper and Chieftain, hell Gun Fall all definitely show more intelligence then Satori and yet they can´t use Mantra.
I never said he was the smartest brick in the world. Gan Fall can use Mantra, btw. How do you think he fought Shura? The others can't, but that's because they haven't been priveleged to learn about it. What good is a sixth sense if you don't how to acquire it or how to train in it?
I'll concede, they all had the potential to learn it. But their ignorance of the concept itself is most likely what kept them from learning it. Not to mention the fact that they followed Enel without question. If they had actually looked into the matter and discovered Mantra, I think they'd stand a much better fighting chance.
As for the Shandians, they were fighting for their lives. If they had time to train in such things, they wouldn't be so adamant about getting rid of Enel.
I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.
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@Fire Fist:
That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that living in fear without action is ignorance. A leader cannot kill every single person, or he has no one left to rule. If everyone resists as a whole, that leader cannot just go kill everyone. If he does, then he's left with nothing.
You know, that really is a little kiddies point of view you´re sharing here. If it would be that simle then it would be easy as hell to overthrow dictators and moronic leaders of nations but it doesn´t go like that.
The example with the Nazi regime shows brilliantly that even if many people are against the asshole, he´ll still find people to support him who will enforce his law. You´re take on "if everybody would" might ethically be a nice point of view but it ignoring the all the facts that come together that intelligent people have their reasons why it can´t be done that easily. We´re not living in la-la-land.
Yes, Enel was planning to do that all along, but that's not a thing that happens in real life.
But you were speaking of Enel in the first place and he had the power to crush an entire island. In fact if it wouldn´t have been for Konis everybody on Angel Island would be dead, no matter if intelligent or not because they can´t do shit to Enel.
Look at France and Bastille Day. Louis XVI was not stupid. When they stormed Bastille, he could've sent his troops and literally blown up Paris. But did he? No, he backed down.
Yeah, for your example I can bring in the example with Hitler where nobody could stop him even though there were many people who would have desired to. And the fact that what happened in France back then is always hyped that much is because it was something beyond exceptional. It´s not like the history of mankind is full of glorious examples where people united to bring down an somebody who doesn´t do them any good.
Yes, Enel is not as rational as your average leader, so the logic doesn't apply here. But suppression without reaction is not logical.
You know, I feel like you´re see that your on lost ground with your original statement where it was about proving that Satori is smarter then all the other Skypieans (which so far you couldn´t) that you are trying to highjack the discussion to a philosophic debate about stupidy of narrowinded followers. I have no problems with highjacking threads, but don´t think you can move away from the Satori more intelligent then Konis, Wiper, Chieftain, McKinley thing which is the original point.
And if you want to keep on that argument about the real world then you better come up with a reply to my very last paragraph in my previous post instead of randomly ingoring it.
Problem is, we don't know if he taught them or they learned on their own efforts. If it's the latter, then Satori isn't as dumb as you think.
From the way how he seems to lecture his priests for being weak with Mantra it seems that in fact he got it first.
I never said he was the smartest brick in the world. Gan Fall can use Mantra, btw. How do you think he fought Shura? The others can't, but that's because they haven't been priveleged to learn about it. What good is a sixth sense if you don't how to acquire it or how to train in it?
Huh? Where was it said that Gun Fall could use Mantra. All I got is that he knows of it´s existense and could explain a bit what it´s about. Please don´t tell me you´re referring to that scene. Just by being able to explain something it doesn´t mean you can use it. I mean I know that box sports exist and I could explain somebody unfamiliar with it what it´s about but that doesn´t mean that I´m a boxer. So please show me where it is said that Gun Fall can use Mantra cause I don´t remember reading it anywhere.
I'll concede, they all had the potential to learn it. But their ignorance of the concept itself is most likely what kept them from learning it. Not to mention the fact that they followed Enel without question. If they had actually looked into the matter and discovered Mantra, I think they'd stand a much better fighting chance.
You´re completely making up stuff here just to fit your definition (which is your´s exclusively) that you need to be intelligent to learn Mantra. I have no problems with speculation but you´re entering so much in the depth of "if it could be possible" that we´re moving so far away of what One Piece is.
I could likewise claim that you would need to have black cloth´s to use Rokushiki and that Luffy was only able to use Soru because he was wearing black shorts. And furthermore I could make up all kinds of stuff why people can´t prove me wrong of that concept. Lets not move to that field and stay on a speculative field that doesn´t go into the "I´ll come up with whatever I can just to not be proven wrong" field.
As for the Shandians, they were fighting for their lives. If they had time to train in such things, they wouldn't be so adamant about getting rid of Enel.
This argument of yours goes completely not only against the One Piece but also the Shonen tradition. If you are fighting for your ideals against someone who tries to brake you down you´ll do your hardest to overcome him no matter what it takes. Wiper was by far the strongest warrior in all of Skypiea. He worked hard to become strong claim back the land. It´s not like he just sat back it didn´t do anything.
I can´t say why he didn´t learn Mantra. Maybe he didn´t want to, maybe he wasn´t gifted. But you most certainly can´t say that he didn´t do it because the fight for his life was time intensive. If that would be the case he´d long have died the death of an unexperienced weakling.
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You know, that really is a little kiddies point of view you´re sharing here. If it would be that simle then it would be easy as hell to overthrow dictators and moronic leaders of nations but it doesn´t go like that.
The example with the Nazi regime shows brilliantly that even if many people are against the asshole, he´ll still find people to support him who will enforce his law. You´re take on "if everybody would" might ethically be a nice point of view but it ignoring the all the facts that come together that intelligent people have their reasons why it can´t be done that easily. We´re not living in la-la-land.
I'm not saying that the world is so simple. What I pointed out is a theoretical observation. In theory, it's perfectly plausible, in reality, it's not.
The point is that a leader that commits mass genocide isn't a leader, he's just an insane killer. Enel was an insane killer in the end, but he kept the Skypeians alive for a specific purpose. To kill them before achieving that purpose would be pointless.
Yeah, for your example I can bring in the example with Hitler where nobody could stop him even though there were many people who would have desired to. And the fact that what happened in France back then is always hyped that much is because it was something beyond exceptional. It´s not like the history of mankind is full of glorious examples where people united to bring down an somebody who doesn´t do them any good.
I'm not gonna comment on WW2 because there's too much involved and opinions differ too much.
You know, I feel like you´re see that your on lost ground with your original statement where it was about proving that Satori is smarter then all the other Skypieans (which so far you couldn´t) that you are trying to highjack the discussion to a philosophic debate about stupidy of narrowinded followers. I have no problems with highjacking threads, but don´t think you can move away from the Satori more intelligent then Konis, Wiper, Chieftain, McKinley thing which is the original point.
I'm not saying that he is smarter than any of those people. In fact, he's not. But the mere fact that he knows about Mantra and none of those people did (Except Wiper) puts him at an advantage. The reason Wiper didn't know mantra could be because of several, but the most likely reason is that he knew the concept, not how it worked or how to train in it. The other possibility is because it's a sky-born concept, which he may or may not shun. Aisa didn't have a choice because she was born with it, but Wiper and the other warriors had a choice to learn it or not. Choosing not to because of your beliefs is very common.
Knowing of a concept and knowing of how to put it into application are two different things. For example, I'm a computer programmer, with various certifications. I've studied how to program in certain languages. My best friend loves computers, but is not a programmer. If I asked him about, say, C#, he'd know what I'm talking about, but have not a clue on how to program in it.
From the way how he seems to lecture his priests for being weak with Mantra it seems that in fact he got it first.
We don't know the circumstances behind that. Enel could have been born with it or it could simply be because his devil fruit allows him to read electrical synapses that it was easier for him to train in it. He stated his power enhanced his mantra. What he didn't state is that his mantra is a result of that power or a result of training.
Huh? Where was it said that Gun Fall could use Mantra. All I got is that he knows of it´s existense and could explain a bit what it´s about. Please don´t tell me you´re referring to that scene. Just by being able to explain something it doesn´t mean you can use it. I mean I know that box sports exist and I could explain somebody unfamiliar with it what it´s about but that doesn´t mean that I´m a boxer. So please show me where it is said that Gun Fall can use Mantra cause I don´t remember reading it anywhere.
248 & 249. The mere fact that he was fighting with Shura and even Chopper couldn't keep up with them.
I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.
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You know, I thought Aisa showed us that some people are born with Mantra. Therefore, the preists are 4 freak skypians who lelrned to fight with mantra.
Can people learn it? Maybe, but we've never seen anything to suggest that. It seems to be a lot like people born with ESP.
But if it is learned, then it's probably just limited to Enel's group. Then know it, so they train people in this skill Aisa was born with it somehow.
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You know, I thought Aisa showed us that some people are born with Mantra. Therefore, the preists are 4 freak skypians who lelrned to fight with mantra.
Can people learn it? Mayb, but we've never seen anything to suggest that. It seems to be a lot like people born with ESP.
Satori specifically said you could in Chapter 246:
Satori: "MANTRA" is the power gifted only to practioners of the arts.
Aisa is a special case.
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248 & 249. The mere fact that he was fighting with Shura and even Chopper couldn't keep up with them.
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Sorry, that was a bad example since it is translated wrong. My point is that Gun Gall cannot use Mantra. In the bottom panel left ,he says that he "do not know the logics behind that power neither , meaning he cannot use Mantra.
Also , stephen translated that he can't use it.T_he "Mantra"… I cannot use that myself,
so I can't explain it very well...
They say the Mantra is the "power to listen"...
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You're right, I checked back. He can't use it. But he was able to keep up with Shura despite the fact that he couldn't use it.
I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.
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@Fire Fist:
Thoughts are electrical synapses. What Enel meant was that he was extending the natural synapses of the brain with his ability.
just to clear this thing… thoughts are not electrical synapses.. there does not exist any thing like an electrical synapse...
In a synapse (ie connection between two neuronal cells) there is neurotransmitter release... ie chemicals which allow communication between one neurone and another. This release is triggered by an Action Potential (an electrical imbalance between the outside and inside of the membrane) but the essence of this is that even though neurones work by electricity, they actually communicate between each other by chemicals... so no there is no such thing as extending the natural synapses by electricity....
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_synapse
An electrical synapse is basically when the voltage of one cell changes, causes an ion jump to another cell. The ion then becomes a proton as a result of the jump, but depolarizes the post synaptic cell.
What you're thinking of is a chemical synapse, which is similar, but is not nearly as efficient at relay as an electrical synapse. Unfortunately, chemical synapse are far more dominant within the body structure.
I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.
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We don't know that. Sure, some people are gifted with it, but how do you know you can't just pick it up?
The only people shown to use Mantra were of Shandian decent, since it's been implied the Shandians were the ancestors of the Skypieans and Bilkans. So, it would make sense for some Shandians to eventually develop the same skills as Bilkans if they were exposed to the same stimuli (what "Fire Fist" Ace outlined); it's convergent evolution.
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@Fire Fist:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_synapse
An electrical synapse is basically when the voltage of one cell changes, causes an ion jump to another cell. The ion then becomes a proton as a result of the jump, but depolarizes the post synaptic cell.
i know wot u mean now, coz ppl dont use electrical synapses… technically its called a gap junction.
also wot happens is that the electrical potential sequence is basically carried out along the neuronal membrane, which results in ion flowing from one cell to the next...
and just for the chronicle, an ion becoming a proton is a complete impossibility of chemistry in the human body
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@Fire Fist:
You're right, I checked back. He can't use it. But he was able to keep up with Shura despite the fact that he couldn't use it.
You really are grasping for straws here aren´t you? What does the fact that he was able to keep up with Shura have to do with anything? If he is a strong fighter then, he will find a way to take him down even though if he doesn´t use Mantra. None of the Strawhats were Mantra users and yet they could keep up with Enel´s people.
So far you could neither make a valid point about Satori being smarter than the Konis, McKinley, Wiper, Gun Fall nor did you make a valid point why EVERYONE that follows a bad leader is stupid. You´re constalty moving to a new field once you see you can´t back your ideas up (currently we´re at "there´s something to Gun Fall because he could fight Shura"). This really makes it seem as if you´re trying to distract from your original point(s) because you can´t prove anything here. A proper point for me to leave the discussion since it is literally pointless.
Btw, no disrespect but you should really re-read One Piece. I mean I don´t even know how often you came up with "it´s a fact" only to have a fellow co-member prove you wrong early afterwards by linking to the scene where that you were referring to. This time it was Ronaldinho who did so. I´m really not trying to offend you but this little scenario happened so often here, that it really doesn´t help your credibility when you speak of stuff that never happened as facts.
And we all know that it isn´t the first time that this happened so please do yourself a favor and read it again before you establish more whack facts.
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Read post 37 of the thread, Ivotas. You may have missed it but it addresses all those issues.
I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.
