Hello it's me again lorenzo! 
For another crazy thread.
This time we'll talk about forgiveness. I just finished watching the movie Saw III today and God was it horrible. :blink::sad::blink: But in the end there was this moral lesson about forgiveness.
So is it really controlable to u people to forgive somebody for the pain and humiliation and hardships they have caused u? How easy is it?
Very easy. Just a quick "I'm sorry" and everything is good again.
Well I think it's easy for some people to say it. But there's always those grudges and revenge hidden in our minds that makes us stalk that person and look for a perfect opportunity of revenge.
But there's always those grudges and revenge hidden in our minds that makes us stalk that person and look for a perfect opportunity of revenge.
:wassat:
I hope that's not me, lorenzo. But yes, forgiving is good. Though this thread is bad. But we have had these bad threads a lot lately so I forgive you. 
I don't know, I think lorenzo's threads are hidden gems. As for the topic, I'm a pretty forgiving person in general, but usually I won't warm back up to whatever person wronged me. I simply don't carry around the weight of other people's actions because life is too short.
Starts to cry
I wo-would just like to sa- say I am s-so sorry that som-sometimes I am mean to noobs! Please forgive me!!!
but in all seriousnes
what a load of crap. Lorenzo lay off making topics for a while.
In some cases, an apology isn't worth much if the person doesn't know exactly why they're supposed to be apologizing.
Well I think it's easy for some people to say it. But there's always those grudges and revenge hidden in our minds that makes us stalk that person and look for a perfect opportunity of revenge.
I wouldn't stalk that person because if I didn't like them then I would try my best to stay away from them ya see?
But you're right about the hidden grudges part. I have alot of hidden grudges but for some reason they just stay grudges. I feel like I'm incapable of feeling angry maybe annoyed but almost never anger.
Even when one kid just likes taunting me all the time I'll just smile and walk off
Well that's a good thing to do Cochise. I'm sure everybody has the power to overcome grudges over actions. It's just that the stalking part creeps me out. I mean vengeance really is scary. Have you seen Saw 3 lately? 
Well that's a good thing to do Cochise. I'm sure everybody has the power to overcome grudges over actions. It's just that the stalking part creeps me out. I mean vengeance really is scary. Have you seen Saw 3 lately?
u have to be pretty stupid to mess with someone u kno that will stalk u…:unsure:
Well that's a good thing to do Cochise. I'm sure everybody has the power to overcome grudges over actions. It's just that the stalking part creeps me out. I mean vengeance really is scary. Have you seen Saw 3 lately?
No I don't like scary things. I usually sit back and listen to one of a few Jack johnson songs
I would have only forgiven him if i was put in the position he was in because anyones death would be on my hands. But if it was just me and him in that room and he had no bargaining chips, I'd have sliced his liver out
Some things cannot be forgiven in that moment in time, it would also be incredibly hard to forgive a guy who isn't sorry.
Once a guy tried apologising to me, but then I reminded him that he sucks at life and will never be seen in a good light by the majority of the world.
Haha, that was fun. That guy was a dick.
If someone killed a relative, I would break them.
If someone cut off my tail, I would cut off 12 years worth of their things.
I would have only forgiven him if i was put in the position he was in because anyones death would be on my hands. But if it was just me and him in that room and he had no bargaining chips, I'd have sliced his liver out
Some things cannot be forgiven in that moment in time, it would also be incredibly hard to forgive a guy who isn't sorry.
! The guy in Saw 3 was an idiot. Aside from not seing the explosives strapped in his wife's neck, he killed jigsaw even after knowing that only jigsaw knows the way out of the place. And becoz of that he's little girl's gonna die…
Brrr….Makes me want to think about the forgiving thing again. If only he'd forgiven jigsaw then all of those things wouldn't happen. If you'd ask me...there was a big moral lesson at the end of the story.
It depends on whats been done
I usually don't unless its really serious
I find myself as a very forgiving person. However if someone has done something to piss me off big time, then forgiveness is alot harder but i manage it after cursing them for half the day.
I find myself some free time right now and would like to bump this thread back to life!! Woohoo!!
How about we post in some lines about us feeling sorry for all the bad things we've done to some users? That'd be cool!! . LOVE for life!! :wub: .
Let's all forgive some guys for doing those things.
I'll be first.
To hyakamaru: I know u don't post here anymore but I just feel soo wooo!! Waaa!! Haaa!! :blink: Remember that thread at KF where I accused you of being a liar and ignored u of all the thing's you said and made fun of you. I'm sorry for all those things. Please accept my apologies and lets be bygones be bygones.
Do u have friendster?
there is a saw 3? darn i havent even seen saw 2 yet =S
Seriously…
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I like how Lorenzo puts "Let's talk about" at the beginning of every thread he makes.
I want to meet Lorenzo in real life so I can study him to further understand his unusual nature.
i don't know. I actually like the sounds of this thread. ^^ seems so nice and calm in here. -- mmmm
I don't know why us women hold grudges, but I just have such a hard time letting go of my feelings when I am upset or angry. It really takes a lot to get me going, but it's not pretty when I do. I just think everyone should be more understanding and caring.
btw, bushi, I'm sorry I was so demanding you be on msn the other day. I didn't know your wrist was sore.
ms cricket: i'm sorry I haven't chatted with you this weekend, even though your probably excited about your horses. I've been really exausted lately, but I will make it up to you.
(that's all I can think of for now)
I sent a man to prison the other day.
I'm a jerk and everybody loves me. Please forgive me
I don't forgive you for making this thread.
Eh, this isn't that bad.
Forgiveness is a necessarity of life, no argument.
@captain:
i don't know. I actually like the sounds of this thread. ^^ seems so nice and calm in here. -- mmmm
I don't know why us women hold grudges, but I just have such a hard time letting go of my feelings when I am upset or angry. It really takes a lot to get me going, but it's not pretty when I do. I just think everyone should be more understanding and caring.
btw, bushi, I'm sorry I was so demanding you be on msn the other day. I didn't know your wrist was sore.
ms cricket: i'm sorry I haven't chatted with you this weekend, even though your probably excited about your horses. I've been really exausted lately, but I will make it up to you.
(that's all I can think of for now)
Since we're in the apologizing mood, I'm sorry for that one thing I said in that particular thread, Captain Usopp.
The funny thing about forgiveness is that when you refuse to forgive someone, you inflict a lot more pain on yourself most of the time then the person you don't forgive. It's a lot better to just let go of the bitterness.
However…when someone wrongs you repeatedly, and refuses to stop, even though you forgive the person, doesn't mean you are obligated to keep putting up with the abuse. Don't abuse forgiveness. Change your behavior when you know it's wrong.
Everyone in my family except myself seems to have a difficult time with forgiveness. 
Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible. - Frank Zappa
I find myself some free time right now and would like to bump this thread back to life!! Woohoo!!
How about we post in some lines about us feeling sorry for all the bad things we've done to some users? That'd be cool!!
Let's all forgive some guys for doing those things.
I'll be first.
To hyakamaru: I know u don't post here anymore but I just feel soo wooo!! Waaa!! Haaa!! :blink: Remember that thread at KF where I accused you of being a liar and ignored u of all the thing's you said and made fun of you. I'm sorry for all those things. Please accept my apologies and lets be bygones be bygones.
Do u have friendster?
I thought you were a guy.
Oh and I have this weird bond with this mexican kid in my class that even though I beat him up all the time and he's a generally untrusworthy, backstabbing little jackass that gets me into all kinds of trouble, we're still good friends.
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Uh…no....I must've drank too much rum that night.. Just pretend it never happened , K!
But I really would like to ask for forgiveness in some people in KF, specially Mushi since she was the reason why I was banned.
Haha, good ole lorenzo. You definitely make things interesting around here.
However…when someone wrongs you repeatedly, and refuses to stop, even though you forgive the person, doesn't mean you are obligated to keep putting up with the abuse. Don't abuse forgiveness. Change your behavior when you know it's wrong.
I think this is the reason right there, why I have troubles forgiving. That happened to me too much in my lifetime. And your right, it does eat at you. It's a terrible cycle my mind is programed into. I want to let go, but as soon as I do, I feel I'm setting myself up for another beating. And these people don't care. So why should I let them off the hook to do it again.
It's like, fool me once shame on you. fool me twice shame on me.
baa, I'm rambling….
I just wish people would learn to be nice.
That means that you're letting your anger get over you. Take a look at me for example, in life lots of guys pick over me for being a lunatic coz of my strange weather shifting behavior, but I usually let it go coz I find it more embarrassing when I counter them with cusses, being very cold or shouts.
But I do believe the fact that you gotta have an outlet too. Coz people sometimes become mad(crazy) when they don't.
Try to do ur revenge in a secret manner. Something that doesn't ruin your reputation, like gossips, or those harmless pranks that makes u feel satisfied.
But to me the best solution would be to confront the guy and tell him seriously if u'r really sorry or u dislike a certain action about him so much that it leaves u sleepless last night.
I know lots of people don't do that very simple thing, but it is a very good solution, more like the best if you'd ask me.
Zen Guru Lorenzo.
Forgive me for only quickly browsing this thread and for leaving it now.
btw, bushi, I'm sorry I was so demanding you be on msn the other day. I didn't know your wrist was sore.
I forgive you, me lady.
And just WHY do you think his wrist was sore? XD
I don't forgive people who use the XD smiley, especially if they're supposed to have a pair of testicles.
um, revenge gets you nowhere either.
contempliates teasing aldrich….naw, I'll be nice
I don't forgive…(nah I should say) don't quite care for people who use (LAME) sexual jokes every chance they can get.
this thread always remind me of that 4chan anonymous quote, "ANONYMOUS DOES NOT FORGIVE"
i forgive u guys
I like how this turned into a "what I don't forgive" thread. Ah, well, it's valid either way, i guess…
Well if u r that demanding, u should see the sign…
Forgiveness in one of the worst songs by Goldfinger.
Was that Cher who did those finger moves? :happy:
Am I Lorenzo? Am I?
Am I Lorenzo? Am I?
Seems, that I've been away for quite a while. If you're a girl, then I forgive you….If you're a guy...Oh well. I'll forgive u too...But I dunno why u asked that question...
I'd also like to ask forgiveness for SogekingSniper for what happened at the Who Here Plays DnD Thread...:sad:....sorry 'bout that, guess I got too carried away with my grammar pride.
I've lived in a kind of shitty situation for quite a while now, and not only me, but my remaining family at that. We have to cope with uncomfortable conflicts from time to time, because the people around us tend to be assholes. When bad goes to worse, I feel horrible both physically and mentally.
But, about the topic! It's not that I forgive these people every time they cause harm to me or my family, oooooh no. I just don't suffocate myself with grudges and negativity towards them, because I can't sustain a hostile state of mind for too long and I have too many good things in my life, so I'll rather enjoy them instead.
If I should talk about real forgiveness, then I could bring up the person who, from my point of view, was responsible for my father's death. He never went to jail or anything, heck, I'm not even sure if he suffered any punishment at all. Now that I'm older I realize I don't wish for his death nor do I hold a grudge. I wouldn't say I've forgiven… maybe I've grown a bit numb, perhaps. But yeah. (oh wow, such a serious response!) Not too much forgiveness on my part, just the fact that I rather move on and make the best of the positive stuff.
I've lived in a kind of shitty situation for quite a while now, and not only me, but my remaining family at that. We have to cope with uncomfortable conflicts from time to time, because the people around us tend to be assholes. When bad goes to worse, I feel horrible both physically and mentally.
But, about the topic! It's not that I forgive these people every time they cause harm to me or my family, oooooh no. I just don't suffocate myself with grudges and negativity towards them, because I can't sustain a hostile state of mind for too long and I have too many good things in my life, so I'll rather enjoy them instead.
If I should talk about real forgiveness, then I could bring up the person who, from my point of view, was responsible for my father's death. He never went to jail or anything, heck, I'm not even sure if he suffered any punishment at all. Now that I'm older I realize I don't wish for his death nor do I hold a grudge. I wouldn't say I've forgiven… maybe I've grown a bit numb, perhaps. But yeah. (oh wow, such a serious response!) Not too much forgiveness on my part, just the fact that I rather move on and make the best of the positive stuff.
Well I'm sure not being able to forgive is a not that much of a bad thing. We can always forgive, but we can never forget something that has happened.
I though this topic was gonna be some sales pitch for Christianity
