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      I was just wondering is it normal for Shounen Jump to just cancel brand new titles in just a few months due to lack of popularity?

      I mean while I know that Zan and Hands were both very lacking in the story department, I always felt that Overtime had alot of potential if given the chance. I know they canceled several other titles due to lack of popularity (Busou Renkin, Shaman King, etc.) but I'm just wondering does Shounen Jump do this alot more often than other companies?

      And do other companies do the canceling thing as well? (What I really mean is to the extent of Jump, canceling titles every few months?)

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        Lord knows companies like DC and Marvel do it all the time to new titles, based on their sales…

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          Absolutely, yes. The competition is more heated in Weekly Jump than anywhere else because it is the biggest magazine.

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            @AnimeNewtype101:

            I was just wondering is it normal for Shounen Jump to just cancel brand new titles in just a few months due to lack of popularity?

            I mean while I know that Zan and Hands were both very lacking in the story department, I always felt that Overtime had alot of potential if given the chance. I know they canceled several other titles due to lack of popularity (Busou Renkin, Shaman King, etc.) but I'm just wondering does Shounen Jump do this alot more often than other companies?

            And do other companies do the canceling thing as well? (What I really mean is to the extent of Jump, canceling titles every few months?)

            They didn't really boot off Shaman King… The manga ka is just demanding 50,000 signatures that people actually read his manga before putting out the last chapter... Sadistic I know.

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              I think if they make an effort to get rid of crap like ZAN then the world will be a better place

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                @Aethos:

                They didn't really boot off Shaman King… The manga ka is just demanding 50,000 signatures that people actually read his manga before putting out the last chapter... Sadistic I know.

                What? So the reason it (suposedly) has an un-clear ending is because of THAT?

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                  @AnimeNewtype101:

                  I was just wondering is it normal for Shounen Jump to just cancel brand new titles in just a few months due to lack of popularity?

                  I mean while I know that Zan and Hands were both very lacking in the story department, I always felt that Overtime had alot of potential if given the chance. I know they canceled several other titles due to lack of popularity (Busou Renkin, Shaman King, etc.) but I'm just wondering does Shounen Jump do this alot more often than other companies?

                  And do other companies do the canceling thing as well? (What I really mean is to the extent of Jump, canceling titles every few months?)

                  First of all, as much as we want to see manga and Jump as a bringer of amazing and fun tales, it is just as much a business as it is a comic magazine. In order to keep people's interest, they are always trying new series and letting them fight their way to success or failure. Usually, the minimum many of these series could run for is about ten chapters (enough for one volume…and to see if the series is strong enough to survive)...but usually many series last a bit longer than that and its rare lately for a "ten chapter series". (like Hands has just become) I guess that the success of the new series is also dependant on other matters such as how much "space" there is in the magazine. If there are just a lot of long running series without end, then its hard for a new series to survive unless it ends up pushing one of them to its own demise. Though generally, once a series survives one year, then the Jump people start supporting it a bit more. Merchandise for it comes out after about a year, and by two years it usually has enough material for a possible anime.

                  As for the whole Shaman King matter, remember that older series are just as prone to ending as newer ones. Usually, the mangaka has enough time if at the bottom long enough to set up and have a modest ending. I guess that with how expansive SK had been at that time that Takei didn't have the time to wrap everything up, leading to the....er, non-ending.

                  Y'know, Negima WAS awesome…

                  For the first 18 volumes.

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                    Busuo Renkin huh? Did the serialization move to a different magazine or did it stop altogether?

                    Daily grind got you down?

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                      Busuo Renkin huh? Did the serialization move to a different magazine or did it stop altogether?

                      Buso Renkin was cancelled, but was given a chance to finish.

                      It's only 10 volumes long.

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                        Aww, I like Busou Renkin…. though it doesn't seem to have many memorable side characters.

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                          Only 10 huh? Hmm. I tohught it'd go longer. Well at least I know it has an actual ending.

                          Daily grind got you down?

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                            What? So the reason it (suposedly) has an un-clear ending is because of THAT?

                            Yeah that's the only reason Shaman King has an unclear ending. The manga-ka thought he didn't have a lot of readers so he said he won't be releasing the last chapter until he get's those 50,000 signatures.

                            When I heard about it I thought he was being an ass because heck it's the last chapter.

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                              @Aethos:

                              Yeah that's the only reason Shaman King has an unclear ending. The manga-ka thought he didn't have a lot of readers so he said he won't be releasing the last chapter until he get's those 50,000 signatures.

                              When I heard about it I thought he was being an ass because heck it's the last chapter.

                              what proof do you have? none of that is substatiatable. Shaman King's ending is shit because Shaman King's popularity was low enough to warrent WSJ cancelling the series. From what i heard, the signatures were asked by jump in order to release the last volume, or something like that.

                              Anyways, if you check the ratings they tell the true story of the cancellation of shounen jump. I have heard few more ridiculous things than a mangaka ending a series a certain way because he couldnt get enough signatures for something. I mean, sure he could not want to continue or be forced by editors to do something he didnt want to so he ended it another way or something like that but not because of lack of signatures.

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                                what proof do you have? none of that is substatiatable. Shaman King's ending is shit because Shaman King's popularity was low enough to warrent WSJ cancelling the series. From what i heard, the signatures were asked by jump in order to release the last volume, or something like that.

                                Anyways, if you check the ratings they tell the true story of the cancellation of shounen jump. I have heard few more ridiculous things than a mangaka ending a series a certain way because he couldnt get enough signatures for something. I mean, sure he could not want to continue or be forced by editors to do something he didnt want to so he ended it another way or something like that but not because of lack of signatures.

                                Proof is right here.

                                http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/article.php?id=5739

                                Is that proof enough for you?

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                                  yeah, the proof of shueisha demanding it, not Takei, like i said. He ended it with the Princess Hao shit because the series was cancelled and he had to think of something

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                                    yeah, the proof of shueisha demanding it, not Takei, like i said. He ended it with the Princess Hao shit because the series was cancelled and he had to think of something

                                    Well okay then sorry… I thought it was the manga-ka who ended it because of that... small mistake.

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                                      small? you deemed Takei an asshole as a result, so i say it was big. Whatever, hopefully his second chance (which is coming soon enough as a result of the rampant cancellations in jump) will be just as fruitful

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                                        small? you deemed Takei an asshole as a result, so i say it was big. Whatever, hopefully his second chance (which is coming soon enough as a result of the rampant cancellations in jump) will be just as fruitful

                                        Well yeah I deemed him an asshole because I actually THOUGHT he was the one who was holding the ending back from being published. Humans DO make mistakes you know and it was a small mistake because it's not all that big of a deal now.

                                        I admitted I was wrong so get your head out of your ass. :getlost:

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                                          Well yeah I deemed him an asshole because I actually THOUGHT he was the one who was holding the ending back from being published. Humans DO make mistakes you know and it was a small mistake because it's not all that big of a deal now.

                                          I admitted I was wrong so get your head out of your ass. :getlost:

                                          lol, you are taking this far more seriously than you should. I could care less. I was merely stating the facts.

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                                            @Aethos:

                                            Well yeah I deemed him an asshole because I actually THOUGHT he was the one who was holding the ending back from being published. Humans DO make mistakes you know and it was a small mistake because it's not all that big of a deal now.

                                            I admitted I was wrong so get your head out of your ass. :getlost:

                                            I think you should get your head out your ass and get facts straight before bashing someone. Don't blame gilrules for your shortcomings and failure to get your facts correct. Me thinks your time with Suzu & NF is ruining your brain functions. Please be mindful of what you say about others. Peace

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                                              @gilrules2000:

                                              lol, you are taking this far more seriously than you should. I could care less. I was merely stating the facts.

                                              Well when I get the impression that you're calling me an idiot for misreading the article I'm going to take it seriously but fine… Doesn't really matter I guess.

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                                                @Aethos:

                                                Well when I get the impression that you're calling me an idiot for misreading the article I'm going to take it seriously but fine… Doesn't really matter I guess.

                                                I never called you an idiot. I was saying that the fact that you thought he held it back was a big mistake, nothing else. How you interpret my words is not a concern of mine. However, its been established that Shaman King got cancelled, so we can all move on.

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                                                  @gaara:

                                                  I think you should get your head out your ass and get facts straight before bashing someone. Don't blame gilrules for your shortcomings and failure to get your facts correct. Me thinks your time with Suzu & NF is ruining your brain functions. Please be mindful of what you say about others. Peace

                                                  this is one of those posts that doesn't belong.

                                                  Anyway at least Overtime and Hands were cancelled. Last thing we need is more mediocre sports manga.

                                                  the bigot who thinks being an asshole is actually worth shit

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                                                    @Cap'n:

                                                    this is one of those posts that doesn't belong.

                                                    Anyway at least Overtime and Hands were cancelled. Last thing we need is more mediocre sports manga.

                                                    I doubt you'd say that if the saw the crap that guy pulls at NF.

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                                                      parents just don't understand

                                                      the bigot who thinks being an asshole is actually worth shit

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                                                        Sometimes manga with a lot of potential get canceled. Anyone else remember Zombie Powder?

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                                                          I hate shueisha/SJ because of the shit they pulled with SK. It was my favorite series ever.

                                                          I seem to have the worst luck ever with the series/games I like. ShamanKing, HunterXHunter and a few others I liked where either cancelled, are on hiatus or too short for their own good.

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                                                            Hunter X Hunter is still going, it just hasn't had a chapter in forever.

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                                                              Damn, that sucks Shaman King never had a true ending, since I'm also a huge fan of that series.

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                                                                @Cap'n:

                                                                this is one of those posts that doesn't belong.

                                                                Anyway at least Overtime and Hands were cancelled. Last thing we need is more mediocre sports manga.

                                                                Not every series starts off so dynamically. If something starts mediocre and sticks around, it could show greater potential. Though usually, its those with strong starts that end up lasting.

                                                                Y'know, Negima WAS awesome…

                                                                For the first 18 volumes.

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                                                                  @KatanaJon1.1:

                                                                  Hunter X Hunter is still going, it just hasn't had a chapter in forever.

                                                                  My bad. I forgot to add "on hiatus"

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                                                                    Speaking of Jump, when is the Jump Festa?

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                                                                      So To-LOVE-ru finally got canned (or ended; Haven't read it in a long time).

                                                                      Can someone tell me what actually IS running in WSJ now?

                                                                      AFAIK:

                                                                      One Piece
                                                                      Bleach
                                                                      Naruto
                                                                      Kochikame
                                                                      Jaguar

                                                                      That's it. Eyeshield ended, To-love is gone, D.Gray is in SJQ, and Neuro ended too.

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                                                                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weekly_Sh%C5%8Dnen_Jump#Series

                                                                        Thats all of them, and all of them are on OneManga if you want to read them, except for Inumaru Dashi, which i dunno anything about. Personnally i read Bakuman, and Toriko weekly with OP, Naruto, and Bleach. Toriko and Bakuman are both quite awesome as well.

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                                                                          To-Love Ru had it coming for a long time.

                                                                          That's what you get for canning character development for so damn long. You can only make SO many chapters centered around forced softcore groping setups.

                                                                          Originally Posted by Wagomu

                                                                          There's a great lighthearted vibe around here, because no matter how serious we might get, we're all together because of some magical pirate.

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                                                                            To-Love Ru had it coming for a long time.

                                                                            That's what you get for canning character development for so damn long. You can only make SO many chapters centered around forced softcore groping setups.

                                                                            To tell the truth, To-Love's first year was a guilty pleasure series, considering it was fanservice combined with character development. After that from when Yui showed up…it was fanservice, nothing more. Pathetic but it also sounds now like one of the two authors hated it too and thus why they canned it. (probably was Black Cat author Yabuki, since he was just the artist during this whole thing with Hasemi being the writer...who pretty much only had a few anime episodes to her credit due to this so I can see why Yabuki rebelled finally...though it could have been Hasemi)

                                                                            Meanwhile, here I am translating/reading older Jump series like Otokojuku and KochiKame instead of really reading anything recent...though I've heard great of Psyren, Toriko and Beezle.

                                                                            Y'know, Negima WAS awesome…

                                                                            For the first 18 volumes.

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                                                                              haven't gotten into pysren but toriko and beezelbub are both awesome.

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                                                                                I'm glad To-Love-Ru is getting canned. I'm one of the few that likes fan-service and even I thought it was too much/ hated it. A manga with nothing to it's name but fan-service is just ugh!!! Look at Mahou Sensei Negima,it's chock full of fan-service but it also has killer characterization and even a quite interesting plot and cool bad ass fights.

                                                                                THAT'S how To-Love-Ru should have been done and it had the potential to become so too, it was plausible with the plot settings but the writer was just either too substandard or too scared of going to new grounds.

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                                                                                  I'm sad that it's getting canceled since I'll miss the weekly-dosage of fanservice.

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                                                                                    Just read the previous chapters if that's what you want.

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                                                                                    There's a great lighthearted vibe around here, because no matter how serious we might get, we're all together because of some magical pirate.

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                                                                                      To-Love-Ru was interesting at first as a blatant Lum imitator with clean well done art, and I gave it a shot because Himajin always took care of that before OP, so I figured it had to have something goign for it. Very obvious romatnic traingle with an obvious outcome way in advance, and like I said, Lum like. Goofy over the top villains, and amusing. Nothing too thought provoking or clever, but fun.

                                                                                      And then 20 or 30 chapters in it went the full out groping hentai comic route, offering nothing else, and I gave up on it.

                                                                                      Nice to see that it just continued down the same path and my judgement was a proper one.

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                                                                                          Gotta hate Shounen Jump moar, thats all. First AG. Then DA. After that DGM! AND then… even sweet TLR! WTF is going on. Shitty Jump, only good is power trio now on...

                                                                                          … whut?

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                                                                                            … whut?

                                                                                            From what I tried to gather from One Manga…

                                                                                            I think DA=Double Arts, DGM=D.Grayman, TLR=To-Love-Ru and AG=Air Gear (not sure about this one)

                                                                                            which is weird because half those series suck.

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                                                                                              Gotta hate Shounen Jump moar, thats all. First AG. Then DA. After that DGM! AND then… even sweet TLR! WTF is going on. Shitty Jump, only good is power trio now on...

                                                                                              Now you know that isn't true. To-Love Ru HAD it coming for quite some time, and it was consistently ranked in the bottom or bottom in the weekly popularity polls to boot.

                                                                                              And I think you're exaggerating Toriko, Beelzebub, Psyren, Bakuman are damn fine series. As is Hunter X Hunter, when it's running.

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                                                                                                With To-Love gone (and yes, it had the potential of being the modern UY instead of…that), all I read seriously anymore is OP and Gintama. Naruto and Bleach are just there for a laugh, I haven't touched Reborn since finishing Varia, and...never have time to start anything else. (aside from reading older series as I've said, such as Otokojuku and KochiKame...oh, and I was reading JoJo but never got back to it from the moment Joseph met the second Zeppeli)

                                                                                                Y'know, Negima WAS awesome…

                                                                                                For the first 18 volumes.

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                                                                                                  One of the shonen jump series that I like reading is Fuku Jaguar, and I want to know, is it a weekly manga or monthly? If so, how many chapters are there?

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                                                                                                    Are you people seriously mourning a fucking pantsu manga.

                                                                                                    I mean, Serius Reader is a terrible poster I expect no less from, but the rest of you, really??

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                                                                                                      The only reason to care about it's existence was as a way of getting OP spoilers.

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                                                                                                        @TheHerald:

                                                                                                        Are you people seriously mourning a fucking pantsu manga.

                                                                                                        I mean, Serius Reader is a terrible poster I expect no less from, but the rest of you, really??

                                                                                                        Nope, I'm just trying to be part of the in crowd.

                                                                                                        And offering my 2 cents that it had good art, but was already terrible and worth dropping by chapter 20, so I can't imagine how much worse its gotten by now. So rather than mourning, no, I'd say… celebrating? the fact that its going away?

                                                                                                        No, celebrating is too strong.

                                                                                                        Indifferent? Yeah, thats probably about right.

                                                                                                        I'm indifferent to this series ending.

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