As there are many brazilians here, I decided to open a thread so we can discuss our release. I think, although, we should keep writting in enlgish so others can still understand and discuss together.
I have one first doubt: I just bought #56. Do you know who's on the cover, along with the strawhats.
PS: FYI, our editions are half the size of the original ones. So numbers #1 and #2 here are equal to #1 in japan, and so on. For that, every even volume have a non-official cover…
Uhh, i don't usually post here, and my english is not that good, but let's try!
Answering your question, they are characters from the 4th movie: Dead End no Bouken: Gasparde and Shuraiya
More info here
The #56 cover is the most random thing I've ever seen! I am still trying to understand the reasons why they choose that cover o_o'
When I bought the #52 I thought they decided to change a bit, because Luffy shows up in every non official cover! But I was wrong xP It actually got worse
I think Conrad's translation is very good… It manages to mantain the feeling of all the important scenes, and doesn't change names undiscriminately... Also, although I'm now used to the name "Luffy", "Ruffy" sounds so much less... retarded.
P.S I was wondering if the webmaster of the great brazilian fansite "Romance Dawn" posts here in Arlong Park…
I bet the Conrad guys have no idea of who are those people and just threw in the cover for no reason.
¬~¬ we don't have extras….. and sumaries....... oda's words...... well, we only have the manga itself buuuuuuut conrad messed up a lot on the past months, like when they put "Dzoooooon" in the place of "Bazooka!!"... and we have TWO people to do the reviewing to correct things up so ironically: we have misses and wrong things(more?) frequently....
ah yes, minus pages for more money(comparing to other titles they release at the same time), heck... it's sad to see only one piece having this kind of treatment....
The only thing that I really find insane about translations at all, (anime and manga) is that I'm pretty sure the company NEVER hire just one random guy that actually likes the series, so much mistakes could be solved.
A gormet translation a italian menu should do a better job than some (good) translator that doesn't even know what a fundue is.
¬~¬ we don't have extras….. and sumaries....... oda's words...... well, we only have the manga itself
What do you mean? We do have SBS and other features of the japanese volumes, including Usopp Pirates' Galleries, Popularity contests and other original contente. What other extras are you refering to?
What do you mean? We do have SBS and other features of the japanese volumes, including Usopp Pirates' Galleries, Popularity contests and other original contente. What other extras are you refering to?
I think he means we don't have the summary (that's a fact, the manga starts in the chapter title itself (when it isn't skipped like chapter 260 - 'Luffy the Pirate vs. Wiper the Berserker', why the spread was simply ignored??), the stuff Oda says in the beginning of the manga and the review of the story, character introduction, and the list goes on~
At least they try to keep us informed on what's happening, though…
One bad thing, however, is the cutting they do on some chapters to their own convenience... Like on the croc defeat chapter. It's not really BAD, but it detracts a little from the original.
I also wish they would keep the chapter titles consistent...
I used to like more Conrad's translation. But I think it's getting only worse. Why, dammit, they are calling Enel "God" ("God", in english)?? Why "Gauntled"?
At least they try to keep us informed on what's happening, though…
Errrr…. irregular releases like now they release one piece on the store, after fifteen days WOW another edition is there! However..... 30 days after, they release again one piece without any explication.... with blade they say what is happening, same for vagabond... If I remember well, had a time that one piece didn't came to the stores for one month and conrad was soooooooo interested to explain...¬¬
About usopp's gallery: didn't that disappeared in the last editions, I think that the gallery usually appears on the #2 edition(aaaaah the cut.....) and the 56 edition they cut that too...
Editors usually say something on the beginning sometimes.... the case is that they doesn't exist for one piece... anymore... I miss the two funy guys that did their job in dragon ball...
Ps: Hey! Ironically the last name of one of the reviewers is "Carrasco". XP
Conrad releases is not all that bad, but true they are getting terrible. They cut off the Usopp's Pirate Galleries since volume 21, they change the chapters' title for other with no sense and recently they removed the introduction and upcoming pages.
I'm not sure, but I think the releases were much better when Sydney and Cassius were the editors.
Conrad releases is not all that bad, but true they are getting so bad. They cut off the Usopp's Pirate Galleries since volume 21, they change the chapters' title for other with no sense and recently they removed the introduction and upcoming pages.
I'm not sure, but I think the releases were much better when Sydney and Cassius were the editors.
Again, for what I can remember, Sydney and Cassius actualy liked the manga, same with DBZ and Saint Seya, I guess Conrad doesn't take that as important.
You want me to show magic?
Again, for what I can remember, Sydney and Cassius actualy liked the manga, same with DBZ and Saint Seya, I guess Conrad doesn't take that as important.
so… there is a way to dislike manga?:pouty:
I just stopped buying it after they changed to this actual horrible paper, so I don`t know how it is going nowadays. But, if I take as a comparision parameter the Dragon Ball tank editions of Dragon Ball, I have to say they much better translated, and feel much more natural and fluid than before. But unfortunantely, it misses several of extras of the originals… including the covers :ninja:
so… there is a way to dislike manga?:pouty:
That's not it, consider this:
Get 2 translator, same skills, one like manga, one couldn't care less.
Guess who will actually do more reseach about different names or fan base.
Same stuff with the editors, i don't think that cutting a chapter in the half is actually the act of a manga lover than someone that just wanna lower the costs.
IMHO, wanna sell cheap? sell the full tako (2 vol at the same time) get COLOR (damn), release it every 2 months, and put tons of adds into it (kids magazines, conventions, fansites, other manga).
I just stopped buying it after they changed to this actual horrible paper, so I don`t know how it is going nowadays. But, if I take as a comparision parameter the Dragon Ball tank editions of Dragon Ball, I have to say they much better translated, and feel much more natural and fluid than before. But unfortunantely, it misses several of extras of the originals… including the covers :ninja:
About it, i think it's the same paper as the origina version.
It was a long time since I had a original JUMP so i can't confirm this.
You want me to show magic?
The fact is, the quality of revision and translation dropped absurdly. And that is that last thing that can happen to a manga. I could survive the change in the paper type. But I can not survive what is happening nowadays with the manga…
Rebel Marines are the coolest ! !
Thx to psolaras for the avatar and sig (I owe you this man).
About it, i think it's the same paper as the origina version.
It was a long time since I had a original JUMP so i can't confirm this.
Even if it was the original paper the end quality is horrible. Maybe that´s paper they use at SJ, if that´s the case, it´s awful since it is a really low and cheap quality paper according to many people. Lol, they sell 200 or much more pages for every SJ every week, and that costs mostly 4 dollars or something like that. I hope they are using the tank paper, so that I can blame their priting process.
Original japanese paper is so so SO much better than ours.. (not the jump one, but the tankobon)
But that is not the problem, i think they are not feeding their pokemon-editors-of-manga 
Money, money and money, thats what moves the world i think.
I thought that they where using the same paper.
If they're using low quality paper at least they should use good translations.
I don't mind the extras except for SBS with actually has some info.
For Christ sake, just have one editor or one of his sons to browse here once in a while.
For situations like this is that I cry in Rurouni Kenshin anime dub or One Piece dub, and I hope Naruto/Bleach NEVER come here.
You want me to show magic?
For situations like this is that I cry in Rurouni Kenshin anime dub or One Piece dub, and I hope Naruto/Bleach NEVER come here.
Quoted for truth.
I only pity people whose only contact with this series were by this dubs.
@Raphael:
Quoted for truth.
I only pity people whose only contact with this series were by this dubs.
The wrost example I could imagine is in the scene in Rurouni Kenshin when he was fighting that other hitoukiri (sp) that kidnapped Kaoru and hipnotised her.
The original version: Kendo no saya to, Niddou Battou Jutsu. (actually something like: Sword and (dunno, the part where the sword is keeped;bainha in portuguese), double battou tecnique).
In portuguese: You tricked me Battousai!!!!???!?!
Someone questioned why Conrad is calling Enel "God" and not "Deus".
It's right, because in japannese they call him "God" aswell, and not "Kami-sama". Calling him God is correct.
Reading over this makes me like what Viz has done a good deal more. At least the edits make sense.
Though paper quality is relative, I have both Japanese and American Jumps and they're very different (American has some glossy color pages, the rest are thin darkish paper, it's about 200 pages, the Japanese one I have from 2002 are 400+ pages with pages in different colors for different stories with the ink quality not very good. As far as I know, apart from the covers for the first few volumes, the Viz tankobon are the same as the Japanese). What's the paper like in the Brazillian editions?
I must agree that lately the quality of translation is poorer. At first they would keep just what they needed to keep in Japanese, and explain the meanings and double meanings of everything (like Zoro's pun attacks). Things seem far worse ever since Alabasta ended.
We have the thin darkish paper, without colors (everything is gray).
We usually had a book quality paper.
BTW Helter, i'm sorry but I'm pretty sure I've read some raws writen with the KamiSama Kanji, like when he introduced himself to Robin, when he zapped that girl in front of Wiper, when Luffy mentioned him too.
You want me to show magic?
Hmmm, i'm not sure, but if i remember correctly, the kamisama kanjis had the furigana written "goddo" meaning you should read God even with the kanjis having a different pronounce.
Oda uses this a lot of times during the manga.
Ah, I stopped buying them exactly at the end of alabasta… I didn't know the quality had dropped so much... that's sad to hear, I really liked their translation...
Don't tell me I'll have to resort to JBC! =(
@Helter:
Someone questioned why Conrad is calling Enel "God" and not "Deus".
It's right, because in japannese they call him "God" aswell, and not "Kami-sama". Calling him God is correct.
I didn't knew about this.
But what I'm finding more estrange it's that enel is "god" and gan fall is "ex-deus". Or they put both in english, or both in portuguese.
Ener calls himself Kami, while everyone else call him Godo. When addressing Gun Fall, Ener also refers to him as Kami.
Well, these are small details anyway. What left me in rage was when the revision left Norland being called Clicket, as if they were the same character. That was the first serious mistake I can remember. And as the translation and adaptation really got more light-tonned (wich was actually better), the number of errors grew insanely and exploded on this last one. And it is not lack of capability, since the same publisher does a wonderfull job with Vagabond, Sanctuary, Blade and Slam Dunk. Only OP seems to be badly treated.
Rebel Marines are the coolest ! !
Thx to psolaras for the avatar and sig (I owe you this man).
Number 58 just released. One of the best "non-official" covers so far. The black background made it terrific.
They, again, made a mess with Zoro`s 108 pound sword translation. =/
@Raphael:
Number 58 just released. One of the best "non-official" covers so far. The black background made it terrific.
They, again, made a mess with Zoro`s 108 pound sword translation. =/
I already don't care with this type of thing. I just buy because i'm fan, contrary case, i would be only with that i down. Sad, but true.
Among other mistakes, they forgot to print the cover of "Luffy vs. Wiper" chapter and I guess that they also forgot a page in the first half of vol. 28. It was when Zoro meet that Southbird after his fight with Braham.
