Signature length

Pesola

Yo can I get your attension for a sec? I gotta s little sugegstion, or a request, or how you put it. Cause today I noticed the leinght of te signature can be only 200 letters, whats up with that? It kinda pissin ne of, cause if I remember right the leinght was 300 for sometime ago. Is it only my memory that is playing or you guys really shortered the leinght by 100 letters?

Oh and I really think that "You may only have up to 5 line(s)." must be removed or atleast a bit more… Like 7... Maybe...

I really don't think I saw a thread about this so I decided to make one, so close up this if I dont have right to make one!

CosmicDebris

Yes, we made it this way because we're sick of really long signatures that have huge blocks of quotes and text. It's a freaking signature, not your personal bio space.

Pesola

I guess so. I seen some strange assed signatures somewhere else that are as long as everyone's here coutned together. I really don't get them myself. But those forums are kinda immature and stuff mostly. Unlike here, but still I think the 300 letters, or even 250 letters are close to the waht people want. And I highly think I'm not the only feeling this way… Even if you leave the 200 letters limit, like I tink you are, plase do delete the 5 line rule...

captain usopp

I'm not sure what a difference 100 charicters would make, but I don't want the lines to increase from 3-5. As cos said, this isn't a bio. I look at your sig, and you have a quote, that takes up a bit of space. Then you have a spot for those link thingies. I don't get that either. You don't need to advertise AP at AP, or OP at AP. Why would anyone be here if they didn't like OP? Then I noticed you had an image. Probably removed because it was too big. I find that's a lot of space.

Don't get me wrong, I love sigs. It helps me identify members. But I also belive in the rule K.I.S.S. (keep it simple stupid) The Rules we currently have for an image in our sig; I wish that was the total aloted space for an entire sig. including quotes. including pics, including links.

If that quote is important to you, make a picture sig with it, and you can have a picture of CP9 in it or something, if you wanna advertise OP. Hey, you can even make the image a link.

Buuhan1

Well I notice I can't have my 4 lines and my signature anymore.

You know, I have a bold line, then a small size 1 line of text under it, then my sig, another bold line of text, and another size 1 line of text under it.

Now my sig isn't huge, yet when I try and do this set up now it says my BBcode is too long so I have to sacrifice basicly one of the small size 1 text, and thats only if the other size 1 text is short, which both of them usually are.

Cr4zy

I think 500 x 200 is enough space for a sig. It's not like your life is in that sig.

Buuhan1

We aren't talking about the image size.

captain usopp

i was

Polygon

Would it be possible to make it so that the letter limit on sigs is bypassed when with in a spoiler tag? I think that's the best solution. Allow only a certain amount of letters and the rest can go into a spoiler tag.

Buuhan1

I don't think thats possible. A spoiler tag will be counted as characters right along with any other.

oceanizer

We never had signature char count limitation for how many characters you can use, just because vBulletin didn't have that option before. After the forum upgrade, we now have the feature to limit char count, so there it is, we put them in.

Char limit was meant to be 250, but I just forgot to fix it from 200 when Cosmic suggested it when we updated the sig rule. Just because of that, I raised the char limit to 300, and total char limit to 600 including BB codes.

As for line count, no, I like number five so I won't change it. (We just don't want to have too many lines.)

As for bypassing the char limit within the spoiler tag, sorry, no. We don't want to start clicking spoiler tags in members' sigs when many people starting to use it. Whether they are in the spoiler tags or not, we still have to check them, you know?

Buuhan1

So, we have 300 characters now? Cool, thanks.

Malintex_Terek

@Mr.Prince:

I think 500 x 200 is enough space for a sig. It's not like your life is in that sig.

My problem with that is my banner is taller than it is wide, so I can't put in a readible version of it without it being illegal. It's not like I put anything else in my signature, though.

Fleur

@Malintex_Terek:

My problem with that is my banner is taller than it is wide, so I can't put in a readible version of it without it being illegal. It's not like I put anything else in my signature, though.

Tall sigs get annoying though.
It forces you to scroll more than you have to; I think the height of 200 is perfect.

captain usopp

@Malintex_Terek:

My problem with that is my banner is taller than it is wide, so I can't put in a readible version of it without it being illegal. It's not like I put anything else in my signature, though.

you do have a point, yours doesn't bother me. Others get carried away though. "and if you let one person do it, you have to let everyone do it…blah blah blah..."

igalsfy

i simply decided to set my user CP to not show any sigs on the forum since a few months and it's just perfect.

oceanizer

@Fleur:

Tall sigs get annoying though.
It forces you to scroll more than you have to; I think the height of 200 is perfect.

That's the problem I have… I don't want to scroll too much.

@igalsfy:

i simply decided to set my user CP to not show any sigs on the forum since a few months and it's just perfect.

And staff cannot do that Or we shouldn't… $:\$

Pesola

@captain:

I don't get that either. You don't need to advertise AP at AP, or OP at AP. Why would anyone be here if they didn't like OP? Then I noticed you had an image. Probably removed because it was too big. I find that's a lot of space.

I know the sig was too big and I dont care about that.. And about those userbars… I think you are quite right. I just didnt think that way myself. I guess I need to chainge the signature anyways...

captain usopp

actually, I really like it pesola.
igalsfy, did this desision come about around the same time, e1n started posting obserd avatars and such? lol

"you can't see my pretty sig now, though." pouts

Malintex_Terek

@Fleur:

Tall sigs get annoying though.
It forces you to scroll more than you have to; I think the height of 200 is perfect.

Having long signatures is even more annoying since they distort page lengths; I have no problem with "tall" signatures since I hate multiple pages, which is why I scale fifty posts to a page as one of my preferences.

Frankly, a banner like this doesn't really come off as "annoyingly large":

oceanizer

This is the problem I have:

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That is the result of viewing in 1280x800, the best resolution I could have on my laptop.

e1n

i vote for no signature whatsoever in the forum because it makes life much easier. what's so important about signatures, anyway? what, you can't live without a signature? are you so insecure about yourself that you don't feel people acknowledge you unless you have something catchy or brilliant in your signature? why do people come to this forum anyway? to talk about one piece, or to look at signatures?

think about it.

Spaceman-Spiff

I always hide ppl's sigs in my profile option in all public forums I visit. Makes my life easier.

oceanizer

Well, we (staff) can't do that, since we're checking members' sig contents to see if they are suitable or not.

Spaceman-Spiff

Poor you.

Then I vote the same as e1n.

Or you can add a css like in SMF:

.signature
{
    overflow: auto;
    max-height: 100px;
}
```However, this only works for Mozilla, Opera, or Safari

hyakamaru

@Malintex_Terek:

Frankly, a banner like this doesn't really come off as "annoyingly large":

http://www.azupload.com/displayImage.php/setid6788.png

Actually, it does.

@e1n:

i vote for no signature whatsoever in the forum because it makes life much easier. what's so important about signatures, anyway? what, you can't live without a signature? are you so insecure about yourself that you don't feel people acknowledge you unless you have something catchy or brilliant in your signature? why do people come to this forum anyway? to talk about one piece, or to look at signatures?

Signatures are not just a way for people to "feel acknowledged". Sigs are a way for people to express themselves, creatively, or to put a message across that they deem important.

Just because some people go overboard with their sigs doesnt mean everyone else has to be punished.

captain usopp

I agree with terek about the long sigs. though, that rarely happens.

e1n; I like sigs as a way of identifying people. I'm a visual person. I am also not good with names. When people, who I am not familiar, change their avas and sigs, I loose track of them. People with no avas or sigs, are nobodys to me, because I have nothing to identify them with.

Also, I get to learn a little bit about people on the board. I know Local is obsessed with Robin. Cosmic Loves Usopp. You, e1n, have a weird, and a bit perverted sence of humor. Or, other people I know to stay away from, because of things I do not aproove of in their sigs. (not menchioning names)

It's also a great way to start off a conversation with a person. I had fun one day pm-ing miss cricket about a FMA cat sig she had.

I find without colorful sigs, all the text is bland looking, and hard to stare at.

ooshi78

@Malintex_Terek:

Frankly, a banner like this doesn't really come off as "annoyingly large"

yes it does

ooshi78

Buuhan1

I don't vote for no signatures cause signatures are a way of expression. Other than our different usernames you really can't tell us apart cause we'll all just be globes of text.

But if you do rip away signatures might as well avatars as well.

Malintex_Terek

@hyakamaru:

Actually, it does.

I guess my blazing glory is too much for you to handle, eh?

…

Oh, I also vote "YES" on a signature ban. I hide 'em anyway, just like avatars, primarily because my own banner has been crippled. ._.

@oceanizer:

This is the problem I have:

…

That is the result of viewing in 1280x800, the best resolution I could have on my laptop.

I'm not exactly sure what the problem is; my image's size is a 24 KB .gif, which is 1/2 the size of an average .jpg banner on this board and 1/4 the total KB maximum of the signature. I don't see what the problem is with scrolling down one hundred more pixels to bypass my signature when other people have (collectively) comparably large signatures and there's no problem with that.

The only issue I could foresee is with my own person; I'm a frequent poster, so unlike the other folk with large signatures it could be tiring. On top of that, there's the issue of my banner standing out (which was the intended point) but I don't see that as much of a hindurance since I'm on a number of ignore lists anyway.

What I'm saying is, I'm devoting my signature to just one image, and a light one at that, but I can't have it because its 103 pixels too large and I couldn't share those pixels off. On top of that, people have signature that reach the limit of 200 pixels and looking at tons of signatures like that shouldn't be anymore tiring than having to look at my own; at that, while my banner is larger than all, the size isn't noticeable when grouped with all those other tall banners.

The real killer, though, is that I can't even have the banner in a spoiler, which kinda sucks for me but at least my quotes are still readible.

hyakamaru

@Malintex_Terek:

I guess my blazing glory is too much for you to handle, eh?

… right. Please refer to this post for my reason.

Malintex_Terek

@hyakamaru:

… right. Please refer to this post for my reason.

Ugh, you're another one of those "lazy reader" folks?

'ignore plz'.

hyakamaru

@Malintex_Terek:

Ugh, you're another one of those "lazy reader" folks?

'ignore plz'.

if you are talking about this post, you edited your post 11 mins AFTER mine, so yeah.

And any sig comes off as annoyingly large when it takes up most of the screen, (same goes for wide sigs), regardless of what it looks like or how big/small it is in filesize.

e1n

boy, don't i miss the days when websites are all text and no pictures. just like when softwares are still run in DOS command prompt. life was so much simpler back then.

Local-chan

hmmmm, I found DOS to be anything but simple, has a pretty steep learning curve it did, but yea, I still miss the days of DOS.

Personally I don't mind sigs myself, sure if they were disabled then I probably won't mind, but I see em more as dividers than anything else, helps when your scrolling through the pages looking for where you left off, if you guys know what I mean…

Buuhan1

Yeah, when reading a long thread and then going elsewhere and coming back would be harder to find your post without sigs.

Fleur

@Buuhan1:

Yeah, when reading a long thread and then going elsewhere and coming back would be harder to find your post without sigs.

Exactly. Like some others are saying, Signatures creatively help people (other than avatars) identify each other and gives your mind something to refer back to when posting in or reading forums.

Like in real life, you need a face to look at when you're talking to someone, right?

And to those who do not like the sigs, just change your settings to not show them. Though sorry to the staff for the "small inconvenience" of not being able to (or not supposed to) turn them off.

Buuhan1

Well, Pepsi seems to have that covered so I say the admin/mods could turn it off if they felt like it.

captain usopp

@e1n:

boy, don't i miss the days when websites are all text and no pictures. just like when softwares are still run in DOS command prompt. life was so much simpler back then.

"boo-urns"

(hey, remember when I was advertising someone's awsome artwork on my sig?)

e1n

@captain:

"boo-urns"

(hey, remember when I was advertising someone's awsome artwork on my sig?)

=P

of course, but it's just not something of necessity, methinks.

oceanizer

@Buuhan1:

Well, Pepsi seems to have that covered so I say the admin/mods could turn it off if they felt like it.

We can turn it off but we shouldn't be. Or at least some of the staff should be watching the sigs.

I don't think this thread's going anywhere else, so… Go have fun in other sections of the board ^^