So why exactly is Marie Joie called the Holy Land? And how exactly do pirates like the Yonkou pass through it?
Here's a theory:
Whether due to natural causes, or some sort of technology left over from the Blank Century, Marie Joie is protected by a blanket energy field. What does this "energy field" do, you ask?
It prevents gunpowder from igniting.
Now, this would explain why it's called the "Sanctuary," and it would answer a lot of questions. With no weapons fire, it would be nigh impossible for anyone to launch a serious attack against the seat of the World Government. This could also explain how pirates pass through. The Marines can put all manner of blockades between you and the Holy Land, but once you're in, they can't really do much. Make sense?
Marie Joie: it ain't called the "Holy Land" for nothing…
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has it been stated in the canon the exact location of Mariejoa?
I've seen many implications of it being on the RL, but i've always thought it was just very close to the RL.I think with Dr. Vegapunk's assistance, the WG and MHQ would have a way to attack even if this so-called "energy field" existed.
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This energy field-thing is a little bit to exotic and farfetched <.< But I like your idea about the meaning of "the holy land". It never occured to me, that the name could mean more than just a "lame" title
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Well, yeah. Originally, I thought it could mean that there was no fighting allowed, which perhaps explains why it would be such a big deal if Donflamingo started one.
But then I got to thinking…and I figured, there's a lot of other weird crap in One Piece, so why not?
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I think your looking far too into this.
Its probably more along the lines of some ACTUAL RELIGOUS IMPORTANCE.
I mean geez, Holy Land. Its a holy land.And we know its on Grand Line.
PS: Interesting bit, Mariejoie. Would translate in french to roughly "Joined Joy".
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Best guess? It's could be the place the last battle between the Raftel Kingdom and the Pioneers of the World Government took place. Being as such, it could be a city on top of a destroyed one.
Let's say, 800 years ago, Raftel's final outpost was at Marijoi. The battle between the Ancient Weapons was so intense, the fortress colalpsed and fell underground.
Flash forward a few hundred years, and a city is built on top of the fortress remains.
It also could have a connection to the devil fruits. Though I would question anything with the name "Devil" being holy, I've seen stranger things.
Which brings me to my third theory: Devil fruits don't work in Marijoi. The only contrary to that is Doflamingo's use of his ability. But if it's not a devil fruit ability, then that theory still fits.
I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.
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It's probably in the middle of the Calm Belt. Hence its being a sactuary because no one but the Marines can get there. That said, I'm sure many experienced pirates know how to cross the Calm Belt as well, but its location is unknown so not too many people know how to get there.
Can some people point out WHAT (or where exactly) it was implied that Mariejoie is on the Redline
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if Luffy and the mugiwaras must get to the New World via a tunnel in Marie Joie….then you can say this fight will be another first in the history of the world....if that is the case.... hehehehe.....
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PS: Interesting bit, Mariejoie. Would translate in french to roughly "Joined Joy".
errr, I don't get why you translate Marie to Joined :x
Marie is either a first name (christian first name, which enforces the holy meaning) or if written "marié", it means wedded.
Marie-Joie really sounds like a medieval girl name to me, so I can't really give it a meaning as a place ^^'
Though, on second thought, it has a feeling of a "virgin" place, never soiled by war. That's may be the best meaning you could give it, since it's the Holy Land
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Seriously can some people point out WHAT (or where exactly) it was implied that Mariejoie is on the Redline
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Seriously can some people point out WHAT (or where exactly) it was implied that Mariejoie is on the Redline
Its not that we know of (well not directly). Its on the Grand Line. Chapter 433 stated in the location box [Mariejoie the Holy Land: Grand Line].
errr, I don't get why you translate Marie to Joined :x
Marie is either a first name (christian first name, which enforces the holy meaning) or if written "marié", it means wedded.
Marie-Joie really sounds like a medieval girl name to me, so I can't really give it a meaning as a place ^^'
Though, on second thought, it has a feeling of a "virgin" place, never soiled by war. That's may be the best meaning you could give it, since it's the Holy LandMarie can be "wed" or alternatvly simply "conjoined".
Like the mairrage of two seas or halves. The word dosen't need to be used literaly.
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Seriously can some people point out WHAT (or where exactly) it was implied that Mariejoie is on the Redline
It's at the intersection of Red Line and Grand Line, and from what I've seen Mariejoa is just an isle, which lends credence to the theory that Red Line on the Western Hemiosphere is nothing more than a belt of islands.
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OK that's what people have been saying for a long time, but is that based on some kind of evidence? Has Oda ever said anything about the location of Mj either on SBS or in a chapter?
As I recall, it was only ever been "Holy Land, Mariejoie" and not "Somewhere on The Redline" ….... so It's on the GL but not necessarily the Redline
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Marie can be "wed" or alternatvly simply "conjoined".
Like the mairrage of two seas or halves. The word dosen't need to be used literaly.Well, I can't think of an example of that type, but you must be right : oda certainly meant to use the word with a broader meaning than the one i'm used to, being french ^^'
so, my bad, you can keep on topic now
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The evidence I've seen presented for its location is a reference, in the Skypiea flashbacks, to Norland getting clearance from Marie-Joie to get on to the Grand Line. People have generally interpeted this as meaning that Marie-Joie is on the intersection of the Grand Line and the Red Line, at the exact opposite point in the world to Reverse Mountain, and that it too has channels leading from the Four Blues onto the Grand Line.
I'm a little skeptical about this, myself. There may be some sort of passage at the intersection, but that doesn't necessarily mean that Marie-Jois is built on top of it. It could be simply a phrasing along the lines of 'we had to go through Washington to get clearance to take our warship through the Panama Canal' – that doesn't mean that they sailed up the Potomac River and past the White House to reach the canal, just that they had to get formal permission from the government, which is headquartered in Washington.
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Way, way back in the distant past of One Piece, Nami stated that there were two cities on the Red Line where it is bisected by the Grand Line; Viz retconned this as being simply one city in its translation of the same chapter. I think the likely answer was that Oda originally intended Roguetown to be on the Grand Line (possibly where the Cape of the Twin Lighthouses is) instead of in East Blue, but he shifted its location for whatever reason.
Anyway, there's a pretty good chance that this city mentioned is indeed Mariejoa; that location would allow access to all four Blues (based on the Norland story), a central location on the Grand Line and Red Line (thus controlling travel for the vast majority of the world's population), and would place it relatively close to the most important military and judicial facilities of the World Government.
Of course, Oda may have completely forgotten about that, so you never know. That or Mariejoa isn't actually the city in question.
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Well, I can't think of an example of that type, but you must be right : oda certainly meant to use the word with a broader meaning than the one i'm used to, being french ^^'
so, my bad, you can keep on topic nowWell yhea, like "My fist was married to Carrot Top's face".
What does this line suggest?
