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    • Ao Kiji
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      I don't care about this little fight, but as some one who has read every chapters of Slam Dunk, Real and Vagabond, in my opinion Vagabond>Real>Slam Dunk. While all of them are good, Slam Dunk is the most popular, of course, because it's a shounen that adult and teenagers can read and enjoy. While Vagabond and Real are seinen with restricted age and a little hard-to-comprehend complexity, thus have less readers.

      thank fucking christ, this is sort of on-topic now.
      perfectly respectable opinion, although 'it's for older readers so people don't get it' seems like a lame argument. nodame cantabile is josei (the girl equivalent of seinen)and it was outselling bleach, fairy tail, and most everything besides naruto, NANA, and one piece for the last year or two. not to mention, inoue is toriyama level famous in japan, so he has a built-in automatic audience for any series he does, anyway. not that popularity has anything to do with quality, but yeah..

      and it's not like something aimed at older audiences can't be written with both complexity and accessibility. vagabond has r-rated material, but i haven't seen anything in real so far that parents would object to children reading. slam dunk definitely had an easier time finding readership by being in weekly jump though, deeefinitely.

      Originally Posted by Mog

      Also, it's a children's comic from Japan.

      Why are you comparing it to cultural engravings and burritos.

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        thank fucking christ, this is sort of on-topic now.
        perfectly respectable opinion, although 'it's for older readers so people don't get it' seems like a lame argument. nodame cantabile is josei (the girl equivalent of seinen)and it was outselling bleach, fairy tail, and most everything besides naruto, NANA, and one piece for the last year or two. not to mention, inoue is toriyama level famous in japan, so he has a built-in automatic audience for any series he does, anyway. not that popularity has anything to do with quality, but yeah..

        also, it's not like something aimed at older audiences can't be written with both complexity and accessibility.

        That's a different matter. The violence in Vagabond makes it less of a entertainment to many people, unlike josei, I suppose.
        Also accessibility doesn't equal quality. Each genre has different purpose. Vagabond and Real are much different from the light-hearted, fun shounen like SD, which is more of entertainment. I would say I won't let my son read something as dark and depressing as Real (at some points) until he reaches 17.

        Not to mention the quality gap between Nodame Cantabile and stuffs like Bleach, Fairy Tail, which are extremely terrible manga.

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          Not to mention the quality gap between Nodame Cantabile and stuffs like Bleach, Fairy Tale, which are extremely terrible manga.

          LMAO. this is probably the truest thing posted in this entire thread.
          yeah, can't argue with that, i guess. totally agree.

          Originally Posted by Mog

          Also, it's a children's comic from Japan.

          Why are you comparing it to cultural engravings and burritos.

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            @Ao:

            unfortunately, anyone who uses terms like 'irl' can't be that good with the ladies..=\

            I fail to see the logic.

            and nah, i don't really care what people think of me, but i do have this glimmer of hope and optimism that people, even you, can look at a debate non-objectively and go, 'eh, guess you have a point' or 'i gotta say, that's a pretty weak argument.'

            I've already done this.

            You don't have a good point, in fact you don't really have a point you can even articulate.

            And I have been calling you're argument weak in different words.

            the side of a debate shouting 'shut the fuck up' is definitely not the side WINNING or pwning the shit out of the other person.

            It's completely unrelated.
            What you just said was flat out incorrect.

            that's definitely a sign that you're drowning, and everything you posted after that was semantic nonsense or completely subjective.

            After what?

            at this point, it almost feels like you don't even have an argument to make, but you're just obsessed with getting the last word because it'll make you feel as though you've 'won'.

            Well let me help you since you're as usual very very lost.

            -I defended Real from you.
            -You shot back complaints.
            -Then we found out you hadn't even read the damn thing, so as was my right I threw out the argument since you were incapable of participating. -And as was my right I was angry (and amused) about you pulling that.
            -Then the argument shifted back to Slam Dunk which we could actually talk about.
            -You started in with the "you dont get slam dunk"
            -I rebuted
            -you rebuted with…a sort of hazey Sarah Palinish word salad of statistics and anecdotes without really making a conclusion on it.
            -I called you on this empty seeming praise you give SD and why what you bring up is irrelevant to comparing it to other comics.

            And then we dissolved into pure venom rather then just venom laced debate.

            So there ya go, that's what's actually happened. So if you want to go back and finish the thoughts you made on why I don't "get" SD and why you actually like it that'd be great. This time refrain from attributing things like inventing love triangles and underdog/alpha male dynamics to Slam Dunk and maybe I won't call a spade a spade.

            if you're going pat yourself on the back and pander for attention as this hard-ass, at least come to a debate with better shit than this. i mean, you're the one bragging about everyone being on your side, but there have been tons of people viewing this thread and i don't see post after post agreeing with anything you're saying–probably because you're not really saying anything.

            It goes without saying, you may not know this experience but when you're a bro and other bros respect you, you just know.

            also, hulk hogan was the shit. everybody loves hulk hogan.

            That's what makes this so sad, because you are like the opposite of Hulk Hogan.

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              @JERK:

              You don't have a good point, in fact you don't really have a point you can even articulate.

              And I have been calling you're argument weak in different words.

              Originally Posted by Mog

              Also, it's a children's comic from Japan.

              Why are you comparing it to cultural engravings and burritos.

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                There's nothing wrong with his use of articulate.

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                  I don't mean you're incapable of grammar "articulate", I mean you are incapable of explaining yourself "articulate".

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                    Okay Zephos, you win. Quit picking on the kid in the helmet.

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                      Okay Zephos, you win. Quit picking on the kid in the helmet.

                      Who is wearing the helmet again?

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                          Grow up Ao Hige. Don't start attacking more growed up comics because you still have the attention span of a four year old.

                          Whoa, dude, wrong guy.
                          I love both SD and Vagabond, and getting me confused with Ao Kiji is a massive insult, Zephos. :sad:

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                            That was a complete typo, you my nigga now, you know dat.

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                              Everything went as planned.

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                                @JERK:

                                It goes without saying, you may not know this experience but when you're a bro and other bros respect you, you just know.

                                Well said, bro.

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                                Finding truth, like a falling fruit, my ultimate finality.

                                Inside my being, the outside, all things; the finite leads the way.

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                                  Jerk Disease (zephos) vs. Ao Kiji was great. Loved every second of it.

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                                    Jerk Disease (zephos) vs. Ao Kiji was great. Loved every second of it.

                                    Bro memories…

                                    Bromories...

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                                      Good to see JerkDisease is hating on everyone. It tells me there is peace in the world.

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                                      I wasn't distracted by Lucy being half naked.

                                      You won this week Fairy Tail.

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                                        Bro memories…

                                        Bromories...

                                        Bromories is right son

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                                          @Aohige_AP:

                                          Whoa, dude, wrong guy.
                                          I love both SD and Vagabond, and getting me confused with Ao Kiji is a massive insult, Zephos. :sad:

                                          i secretly and passionately love you, ao hige.

                                          no, but seriously, that thing between you and me was totally my fault.
                                          apologies, dude, i have no issues with you and hopefully we can just shake hands and be respectful to one another from now on. i mean, you weren't innocent and were definitely crossing a line, but i feel at fault for starting it.

                                          for clarity sake: i like SD and vagabond, too. i didn't mention disliking either of those series..

                                          Originally Posted by Mog

                                          Also, it's a children's comic from Japan.

                                          Why are you comparing it to cultural engravings and burritos.

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                                            I regret that I haven't read this manga before, i really do.

                                            Thank you both Sea and Zephos.

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                                              does anyone know when there are comming more chapters out? the last chapter came on mangareaders on 11/08/2010.

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                                                Come on you bumped this thread just to ask that?? It's on Hiatus. Damn and I thought it was a update.

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                                                  does anyone know when there are comming more chapters out? the last chapter came on mangareaders on 11/08/2010.

                                                  Inoue has put the series on hiatus indefinitely. You can't really blame him honestly, he's worked very long and hard (don't laugh). He's not like Togashi who's just being lazy, Inoue's just tired out. You can't really blame him when he's written three notable series, two of which were long-running and all were critically acclaimed. He never cut corners on the art either, he was always putting in a full effort. It's still sad that he didn't finish what he started, and even sadder that he may never finish it.

                                                  My Hero Academia is my favorite manga series right now. At least so long as the high of its greatness remains. United States of Smash.

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                                                    Inoue has put the series on hiatus indefinitely. You can't really blame him honestly, he's worked very long and hard (don't laugh). He's not like Togashi who's just being lazy, Inoue's just tired out. You can't really blame him when he's written three notable series, two of which were long-running and all were critically acclaimed. He never cut corners on the art either, he was always putting in a full effort. It's still sad that he didn't finish what he started, and even sadder that he may never finish it.

                                                    First of all, just gotta say I love Vagabond. Would be a real shame if he doesn't complete it but he does deserve a break. Also, is it wrong that I laughed?

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                                                      Kids these days and their thread bumping.

                                                      Sadly, Vagabond is still on indefinite hiatus. Vagabond was the project that took quite a lot out of Inoue, both physically and creatively. And probably, it will be a while until he rejuventes fully and gains that something he lacks right now to continue this, well, epic work.

                                                      Meanwhile, Inoue is quite sucesful with his other works, the fact which makes his Vagabond difficulties more obvious. Oh well, best of luck to the men.

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                                                        First of all, just gotta say I love Vagabond. Would be a real shame if he doesn't complete it but he does deserve a break. Also, is it wrong that I laughed?

                                                        It's allright if you laughed, you've proved that you're a decent person (even though you haven't been around very long). I actually still haven't read Vagabond yet but once I'm done with Eyeshield 21 (almost done) I'm going to get to it. Although I also want to start getting up to date with History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi and Gin Tama (also long-running series) so… yeah.

                                                        My Hero Academia is my favorite manga series right now. At least so long as the high of its greatness remains. United States of Smash.

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                                                          This bump was cruel….my heart sinks all over again.

                                                          read.

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                                                            @Kareem:

                                                            It's allright if you laughed, you've proved that you're a decent person (even though you haven't been around very long). I actually still haven't read Vagabond yet but once I'm done with Eyeshield 21 (almost done) I'm going to get to it. Although I also want to start getting up to date with History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi and Gin Tama (also long-running series) so… yeah.

                                                            Thanks, means a lot to know that I seem alright to people, you're cool too. You should so read Vagabond, I honestly can't find a fault with it, simply outstanding.

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                                                              Since it's bumped already. I just finished reading this today. In three sessions over the last 5 days. I'm usually not that much of a marathon reader and take breaks quite often. This is to the easy readabilty of Vagabond. I'll definatly read it again some day paying more attention to the details next time round. Great manga. I hope it'll be finished one day. Most of the historical Musashi life has been told already, the rest could be done in a year or two.

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                                                                I saw this old thread ressurected from the depths of AP graveyard, hoping to see news of Inou's triumphant return and what do I read? New readers declaring that they just got done reading this series. 2 sides of me went off

                                                                the first: Cool, glad to see more people are getting into this great series.

                                                                the second: (after realising there was no new news) FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!

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                                                                  Ditto .

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                                                                    Vagabond's return in sight? Hell Yeah!

                                                                    http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-11-04/takehiko-inoue-now-drafting-return-of-vagabond-manga

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                                                                      Finally, I still have to buy most of the German volumes.

                                                                      If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. - _Sun Tzu, The Art Of War

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                                                                        WOWZA!…THANKS FOR SHARING THIS NEWS. THIS NOT ONLY MADE ME SMILE...IT MADE SIMON HAPPY. 🙂

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                                                                          huh, already? Not even a year long hiatus, but I'm glad the author was able to recover from whatever was forcing him to go on a break. Vagabond is one of the most fantastic manga I have ever read and I'm really glad that he seems to be ready to continue.
                                                                          I wasn't really worried, but I heard horror stories of series that never got finished for health/other reasons, and It would have been just a shame for this masterpiece to not get a proper conclusion.

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                                                                            I clicked on this thread expecting to be dissapointed with no news. I am so glad to be wrong! Love this series so this is very good to hear.

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                                                                              At last, a spark of hope.

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                                                                              huh, already? Not even a year long hiatus

                                                                              Vagabond went on a hiatus in summer 2010.

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                                                                                The best news I've seen in a while! I've been missing Vagabond too much.
                                                                                Thanks for linking the article, Fed.

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                                                                                  My reaction to the news:

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                                                                                    At last .

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                                                                                      yeeeees, I can't contain my emotions, this is awesome.

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                                                                                        Guys, you guys!

                                                                                        Vagabond! It's coming back in March! With colour pages!

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                                                                                          !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                                                                                            We missed you, sensei.

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                                                                                              Huzzah!!! Miyamoto vs Kojiro has been on hold for too long.

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                                                                                                Awwwright, hope he has his mojo back. Because aside from the awesome confrontation volume with Ittosai the series was really getting muddled and aimless.

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                                                                                                  thats awesome…I been reading this series in the big edition (I started a long time ago and finished the 9th a couple month ago). The next 1 will probably tak forever to come

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                                                                                                    CAN'T WAIT!

                                                                                                    Zik Of The 7 Swords: Vision? What do you know about my vision? My vision would turn your world upside down, tear asunder your illusions, and send the sanctuary of your own ignorance crashing down around you. Now ask yourself, Are you ready to see that vision?

                                                                                                    Last.fm

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                                                                                                      Chapter 301 pictures and Morning #16 cover ^^


                                                                                                      Next chapter, 19th April.

                                                                                                      Twitter: https://twitter.com/Mugiwara_23

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                                                                                                        Oh, finally it's back. Let's hope we get scans soon.

                                                                                                        If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. - _Sun Tzu, The Art Of War

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