So believe it or not, but 208 has been released. I don't have a BT link for you because the K-F tracker is currently down, and the WS release is not out yet, but is coming down the pipe. But if you're eager to watch, it is released in the DVD-quality FS version. So hop onto IRC and get the episode. NOW. (If you want)
K-F One Piece 208
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Anyone know if the FS version isn't stretched this time?
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It looks stretched to me, I find it hard to tell without a WS version to compare it to. But here are some screenshots so you can tell for yourself.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b15/Casusby/snapshot20061107001954.png
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b15/Casusby/snapshot20061107002231.png
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b15/Casusby/snapshot20061107002509.png
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b15/Casusby/snapshot20061107002925.png
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@EvilGamerX:
Anyone know if the FS version isn't stretched this time?
I just watched the opening, and unfortunately it is stretched vertically in the same way as 207. We really can't blame K-F though, because the problem is with the DVD itself. Perhaps it is too much trouble for them to fix the aspect ratio, especially since they are doing dual releases. It's a blessing that they are even releasing in both formats anyway, and it's amazing that they got 208 out this soon, so I'm not going to complain. That sure was a fast month and a half, and I don't mind waiting just a little longer for the WS release (I prefer the WS anyway).
Thanks again for the hard work K-F!
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Yup, it is stretched. Those little black bars aren't at the top and bottom.
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The tracker seems to be down at the moment.
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If someone who got it via IRC can host it, perhaps on TorrentSpy, I am sure many of us would be forever grateful.
I don't have IRC, and I really don't want to bother. If it's too much trouble, I really don't mind, I'm not that lazy.
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We really can't blame K-F though, because the problem is with the DVD itself.
Not at all, but I do agree it might be too much for K-F, but if they want to continue boasting ultra high quality releases, they better fix that problem ASAP, or just start releasing WS rips exclusively, because currently the DVD rips suck. And to fix the problems with their DVD rips, they just need to change the apect ratio of the video to 640x450 before burning the subtitles and effects onto the video.
@EvilGamerX:
Yup, it is stretched. Those little black bars aren't at the top and bottom.
The black bars don't nessisarily have to be on the top and bottom, they just need to have a corrected resolution of 640x450.
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Well the little black bars are part of the video. So if they are trying to remove them, that can be what is screwing things up.
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@EvilGamerX:
Well the little black bars are part of the video. So if they are trying to remove them, that can be what is screwing things up.
You are correct in saying this, but some programs by default remove all black bars from the DVD when ripped onto the computer, so therefore it's not technically K-F's fault that that happens. What they can do to fix it is to have the final encode be in a 640x450 resolution (which is what it would come out to with the black bars not present, and the video not stretched). Currently the FS releases are getting a vertical stretch of about 30 pixels, which talking in terms of that low resolution, is very bad.
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Maybe they are doing it purposely because of the island they are on =O
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@EvilGamerX:
Maybe they are doing it purposely because of the island they are on =O
Could be. XD
But then why did they not make the Little Garden arc 320x240 resolution?
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You got me there bro. I think Nami's temp replacement seiyuu was big enough of a change.
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@EvilGamerX:
You got me there bro. I think Nami's temp replacement seiyuu was big enough of a change.
That was no temporary replacement seiyuu! That was just Nojiko in a Nami suit!
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So it wasn't just a coincidence they sounded the same and it being the same seiyuu. That bitch stole eps from Nami =O Learning from her little sister… stealing and all.... pssh
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If someone who got it via IRC can host it, perhaps on TorrentSpy, I am sure many of us would be forever grateful.
I don't have IRC, and I really don't want to bother. If it's too much trouble, I really don't mind, I'm not that lazy.
Here is the official release by dythim at torrentbox:
http://www.torrentbox.com/torrent_details?id=74104
(the torrent that I had uploaded earlier to datorrents wasn't working properly and has been removed, so please use this one instead)
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Okay, so after the recent dissapointment with the last two episodes I have decided to reencode the episodes into the correct ratio of 640x450. Currently I'm reencoding them into XviD, but hopefully I'll be able to figure out a way to retain the ultra high quality of the x264 codec.
Here's a screenshot including the fixed 207:
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What? No WS torrent yet?
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i'll wait for the WS version. the cropped version of 207 was really hard to watch.
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These fullscreen releases seem kind of pointless. Almost everyone gets the widescreen releases, so they should at least be the first to come out.
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These fullscreen releases seem kind of pointless. Almost everyone gets the widescreen releases, so they should at least be the first to come out.
Isn't that because they are? Personally, I see it as nothing more than an excuse to burn off excess bandwidth.
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Isn't that because they are? Personally, I see it as nothing more than an excuse to burn off excess bandwidth.
I download the FS episodes, mainly for the higher quality video I receive with them. The only problem is that they're scaled wrong, and are vertically stretched, and I'm working to try to fix that.
EDIT: I would also like to point out that I download the WS episodes so I can get the extra image. You could say I download both.
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I just checked the IRC channel. Apparently the bt tracker is down indefinitely, and there is no word yet on when the WS might be released.
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ah ah these 2 last episodes were full of good jokes. and now for toei to ruin the davy back fight with their filler sports!
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Damn wonder how long it will be for the widescreen version, because I refuse to download the fullscreen version unless thats the only version to download period. Although I am still grateful for KF subbing 2 diffrent versions I just wish it would come out first.
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Gonna wait for the WS methinks.
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Ditto here. I wonder how much more work it takes to make two kinds of episodes. I mean they are using the same subtitles right?
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Their TV Raws have the Sponsor spots wheras the DVD rips don't, so the timing is Different and that probabily has something to do with it.
but other than that, the subtitles should be exactly the same
Switch Friend Code: SW-1795-2519-1884 • Click Here to check out my Twitch Channel
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Unless they crop out the sponsor spots which isn't hard at all.
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Their TV Raws have the Sponsor spots wheras the DVD rips don't, so the timing is Different and that probabily has something to do with it.
but other than that, the subtitles should be exactly the sameBasically you just have to retime the first line, the rest will fall into place then.
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yes, cutting out the video parts ERXACTLY frame by freame where the spondor thing is, as well as setting the soundtrack to follow this(I'm sure whatever they use to cut them out has the ability to edit both at once) and then a simple re-time of the first line(and letting all change to reflect this) should fix the issue. Then it's a matter of re-encoding.
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"Damn wonder how long it will be for the widescreen version, because I refuse to download the fullscreen version unless thats the only version to download period."
Same here, only I refuse to download the FS version period. I'd rather just stick to the manga and download the raws.
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I've cropped the sponsor thing out without loosing quality for my personal storage easily. Both are simple to do.
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They could just keep a hard copy of the opening, cut the sponsor and everything before it out, and add the opening to the begining.
This might pose a problem once the opening is placed five minutes into the episode.
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If I were to watch the whole raw, would tere be a recap at the beginning or no recap? I am just curious, by 5 minutes in, do you mean because they extend the recaps to fill in for time, or are you simply referring to at some point TOEI putting the opening 5 minutes in?
If it's all recap and it's jsut extended, KFs been cutting it out up to now, no reason to stop. It's kinda boring. It'll just mean a shorter episode, a quciker release, and then they can move onto the next episode faster.
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If I were to watch the whole raw, would tere be a recap at the beginning or no recap? I am just curious, by 5 minutes in, do you mean because they extend the recaps to fill in for time, or are you simply referring to at some point TOEI putting the opening 5 minutes in?
If it's all recap and it's jsut extended, KFs been cutting it out up to now, no reason to stop. It's kinda boring. It'll just mean a shorter episode, a quciker release, and then they can move onto the next episode faster.
In later episodes the opening song was moved to after the recap. It happened… somewhere in the 240's, I believe... K-F hasn't cut them, though, they're just not there yet; at the point they've subbed, the recaps are always the first thing after the opening song. All they don't have is the next episode previews, I believe... Since the sponsor things probably aren't on the DVD releases. XD
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I actually think the quality is worse in the FS versions. And smaller horizontally. And stretched vertically. So that's a triple negative for me. Of course I might be able to prove myself wrong with the first sentence (and I KNOW other people can so no need to show me unless you really really want to). Just saying my 2cents on that matter, not criticisms of their work.
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This was posted by dythim on K-F Forums a couple of days ago. It looks like it's gonna be awhile before we get the WS for 208…
Okay, time for updates, since so much hasn't been going smoothly.
As you've probably guessed, there was no internet where our guy went on vacation. He struggled to even send out some e-mails. So that's that, we'll have to wait for him to get back.
Next, the tracker died. Horribly unexpectedly too. The guy who was running it disappeared too, so if you see him, hurt him. A lot. For now, we have a temporary tracker up on our "Get One Piece!" link. Jakobo is currently working on an airtight model to allow us to run our tracker locally, on our own server. Trackers were not permitted on our previous server hosting, and that's why we didn't do this before.
And thirdly, we have released One Piece 208! ...sort of.
We did prepare the FS ("fullscreen") version of 208 for release while our guy was away, taking a gamble that if he was active enough, we would be able to have the WS ("widescreen") version as well. That didn't happen, but we decided to put out the 208 FS anyway. We will release 208 WS after he gets back to his proper place. But unfortunately 209 will have to wait for him before either release.Anway, don't worry. We are still doing fine, even though we are not releasing for a while. Bear with us a little longer, and maybe check out "Slayers" in the meantime.
Cheers!
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Tell me - which releases are more important, FS or WS? I'd say that FS is a waste of time, thanks in part to the fact that the DVDs have the ends cut off. Besides, it doesn't really matter about the station bugs. For one thing, I don't mind because I don't care. Either way, you're going to have an episode of One Piece, so pick a format and stay with it.
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I just want to link this explanation on FS from K-F on their forum
http://www.kaizoku-fansubs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=5263
UNKNOWNFILE.. you seems to have a lot of grudge against K-F, I wonder why? hehe. :getlost:
Grow up and just respect their decision.
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Hopefully a lot of the FS fans will get tired of the "stretched" FS releases and switch to WS, and then maybe that will convince K-F will start releasing in WS only, which will might result in faster releases.
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Actually the DVDs ARE how the fullscreen eps were aired.
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UNKNOWNFILE.. you seems to have a lot of grudge against K-F, I wonder why? hehe. :getlost:
Grow up and just respect their decision.
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Everyone has a right to their opinion. I call releasing two of everything a waste of bandwidth. Case closed.
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I agree with UNKNOWNFILE, the truth is that probably everyone downloading only the FS version will regret it one day..i mean it, i bought some dvd movies in fullscreen edition some years ago (because i despised WS) and now i just don't know what the hell i was thinking. When you realize what you're missing, there's no turning back.
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HOLY CRAP! KF whatever you're doing, keep doing it, I've never had a BT download go this fast. Usually ill have a stead 50-100kb/sec.. this one is going at 320kb/sec O_o
and yes, I think releasing widescreen would definatly be best.
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I agree with UNKNOWNFILE, the truth is that probably everyone downloading only the FS version will regret it one day..i mean it, i bought some dvd movies in fullscreen edition some years ago (because i despised WS) and now i just don't know what the hell i was thinking. When you realize what you're missing, there's no turning back.
It sucks even worse when you realise that you have shitty Full Screen movies and a nice shiny HDTV (which is Widescreen), and or widescreen computer monitor.
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they said they'll release it when their encoder gets back from vacation, can't you just either
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People who dont like the FS,WS,or even dont like K-F then just go download of somewhere else like ADC or Gerusama
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