Amazing how you just ignored everything I just said and gave me stupid replies like:
lol how dense are you dude.
You make a list of VILLAINS LUFFY STOPPED AND FOUGHT IN SPITE OF HAVING TO JUST LIKE HE ALWAYS DOES.
And included a villain where in fact he did not end up doing this at all.
You defeated your own argument. So like, thank you.
You did it again later when you simultaneously tried arguing that Luffy would never let a hated foe unmolested, but you brought up the death of Ace as motive….which of course makes no sense since Luffy isn't off to take down Akainu over all else. So thanks again.
Also I'm pretty sure sarcasm and satire play a role in discussion and point making as much in Portuguese as English. So I really can't explain why you are seeing me crack a joke, and immediately write it off as filler. Or more likely, that's an excuse on your part.
- So far in the series, Luffy has never avoided a fight,
Magellan, Akainu, Kizaru, Smoker, Sentomaru (both before and after time-skip). Also these are conflicts that were literally in front of him, why are you assuming that has to happened with Blackbeard before Raftel?
Meaning, all the people he has fought so far, he has done so because he WANTED to. That's Luffy, he does whatever he feels like.
What a useless vague thing to say.
So when Luffy directly attacks someone it's because he feels like it.
But when he avoids going after someone what's that? Also what he feels like I suppose.
So you're really saying nothing at all here.
And if he feels someone is in his way or is threatening the people he cares, he fights them. When the time comes, Luffy will not ignore Blackbeard and just race to Raftel as you suggest.
Why would he go after Blackbeard with Raftel in front of him,
He will fight him because he WANTS to, he will not delay their confrontation and ignore an enemy. He's never done it before, and I can't see any reason why he should do it in the future;
He needs a direct motive for this to make any sense. So once again you're just assuming he will have one at that point. Otherwise what you're saying falls apart.
- Unlike you seem to suggest, fighting IS a big part of the series
Genre wise and content wise, which are entirely different things than the in-story quest for a treasure island. Which shockingly enough is accomplished by reaching the treasure island and getting the treasure. Not by defeating Goro and Shang Tsung first.
After Sabo's "death", Luffy vowed that he would become stronger so that he wouldn't lose anyone again. After Ace's death, Luffy spent 2 years training in order to become stronger. Again, fighting is a HUGE part of the series. Fighting is how Luffy overcomes his opponents, it's how he crushes their dreams, it's how he protects the ones he cares about, it's how he becomes closer to being the Pirate King;
Adventuring seems to have skipped your mind, but that's the actual point of everything he does. Fighting is a byproduct of that.
His entire literal goal is to accomplish a great adventure. Everything else is secondary, period.
- One does not have to crush pirate crews in order to reach Raftel, we both agree on this. But it is no race either, as you seem to suggest.
Where did I suggest it was a race. I'm merely pointing out that the point of the adventure to reach Raftel, is to reach Raftel. Not to defeat a end boss.
It is NOT a race. If it were, then Luffy wouldn't stand much of a chance, considering he started with more than 20 years of delay.
Clearly there is some secret or hidden aspect(s) to reaching Raftel. It's obviously not just sitting there at the end in plain view. Which is great in illustrating that no fighting isn't what everything in OP is about. Luffy isn't going to punch his way to access Raftel.
- Shanks does not have to die for Luffy to want to fight Blackbeard (even though I do think he will die). Luffy has more than enough reasons already for wanting to defeat him.
Just about as wrong as can be. Luffy has shown extremely little passion toward Blackbeard compared to Akainu.
Look at his most recent reaction to him, when he heard him over the phone. He gave a stern frown, and that was it.
Luffy currently does not like Blackbeard. That's about it. There is no vendetta established.
On Punk Hazard Luffy pretty much said he wants to defeat the Yonko,
With a huge smile and casual nature. It was not whatsoever a solemn vow. And he didn't mention Blackbeard by name.
and even if Blackbeard wasn't one of them, he would want to fight him anyway due to what happened to Ace;
Luffy's Ace hate is directed at Akainu.
- When Luffy reaches the later islands of the New World and the threat of Blackbeard is right in his face, Luffy WILL fight him.
We have no idea exactly what things are like in the later islands. How things are set up, where the Yonkou leaders hang out, how hands on they are, whether Blackbeard is busy at doing anything. You're talking like there will just be BLACKBEARD ISLAND where the crew goes and the BLACKBEARD ARC happens.
Even if he discovers how to get to Raftel before, he will still deal with Blackbeard first. Why? Once again, because getting to Raftel is not a freaking race,
If Luffy figures out how to reach it, and still lacks a direct vendetta with Blackbeard, why wouldn't he complete his quest?
and because Luffy has never avoided confrontation with anyone, nor will he;
Magellan, Smoker, Kizaru, Sentomaru, Akainu..
- Look at what happened in Impel Down. Ace's life was at stake and Luffy was in a hurry to escape the prison and get to Marineford, but as soon as he saw Blackbeard he had a go at him.
Then he stopped with a little bit of persuasion from someone who wasn't even his current crewmate. He has shown zero anger toward Blackbeard for Ace since, showing how heat of the moment that was.
Were it not for Jinbe, the fight would have dragged.
Good point, now that Luffy is surrounded by no close confidantes he will be totally out of control.
This happened when Luffy was in a HURRY to save his brother's life. What makes you think Luffy will act any differently when he crosses paths with Blackbeard again, independently of knowing how to get to Raftel or not?
What makes you think they'll have a direct confrontation before Raftel.
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Chapter 440, go reread it. Blackbeard clearly states that is goal is to become the Pirate King.
Please quote for me the speech balloon prior to that.