Akainu's backstory is just gonna make me hate him more than I already do (and if I hate him [and Mingo] too much, I'll end up hurting myself) and love whoever was against him (like Cora-san).
Who is the final villain in One Piece? 2.0
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This thread….........
My bad, I feel partially responsible, I should've just let it lay dormant.
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Urouge do not underrestimate his power
done make him angry or you all will suffer
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http://www.arlongpark.net/showthread.php?t=43947&page=10&p=3667095&viewfull=1#post3667095
SBS translations from new volume- Worst Generation's hobby
Luffy (adventure, party)
Zoro (training, liquor),
Law (roaming, collecting anniversary coins)
Kidd (listening to music, collecting weapons)
Apoo (DJ, surfing)
Capone (watching paintings, board game)
Hawkins (interior designs, taking a bath)
Drake (reptiles enthusiast, Astrophysics)
Bonney (food, Jenga)
Killer (Drum, cooking)
Urouge (liquors, love affair, climbing mountains)
Blackbeard (gambling, history research)Lemme hone in more there.
Blackbeard (history research)
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@Monkey:
http://www.arlongpark.net/showthread.php?t=43947&page=10&p=3667095&viewfull=1#post3667095
SBS translations from new volumeLemme hone in more there.
Yeah, but Government Attack Dog is a better candidate because revenge (???)
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@Monkey:
http://www.arlongpark.net/showthread.php?t=43947&page=10&p=3667095&viewfull=1#post3667095
Lemme hone in more there.
I think that is also a very interesting part of Blackbeard. I wonder how aware of his ~destiny~ he was before meeting Shanks. I think he fooled Shanks into talking too much.
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Didn't expect Teach to take a liking to history. Hopefully this isn't Oda pulling out random useless trivia but instead, it makes sense towards the story.
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@The:
Didn't expect Teach to take a liking to history. Hopefully this isn't Oda pulling out random useless trivia but instead, it makes sense towards the story.
He's probably interested in the ancient kingdom, what it means to be a D, etc.
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@Monkey:
http://www.arlongpark.net/showthread.php?t=43947&page=10&p=3667095&viewfull=1#post3667095
SBS translations from new volumeLemme hone in more there.
Drake liking astrophysics is also interesting
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Yeah, but Government Attack Dog is a better candidate because revenge (???)
Hey we cant make any rash choices before knowing akainu's hobbies.
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Chapter 437 Discussion after franky decides to join the Strawhats:
So who think Usopp is inside that duffelbag?
H x H Chimera Ant Arc / OP Manga Spoiler
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@Long:
Drake liking astrophysics is also interesting
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Now I'm picturing Neil DeGrasse Tyson turning into a Dinasour.
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Yeah, but Government Attack Dog is a better candidate because revenge (???)
Blackbeard will have that in his locker too when he kills Shanks.
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Blackbeard will have that in his locker too when he kills Shanks.
I mean, I was being sarcastic.
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Blackbeard will have that in his locker too when he kills Shanks.
Will that be before or after Enel comes back with an army of space aliens?
Oh, or maybe it's after Pedro joins the crew?
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Will that be before or after Enel comes back with an army of space aliens?
Oh, or maybe it's after Pedro joins the crew?
SomeWrongGuy strikes again.
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Will that be before or after Enel comes back with an army of space aliens?
That will no doubt happen, but who can tell the timing on it since that subplot is isolated from the main story. Probably during the final war though just for the chaos sake.
Enel didn't find chunks of true history and assemble a cute robot army for nothing.
Oh, or maybe it's after Pedro joins the crew?
Ooooh, you're being sarcastic. Well, that one isn't happening.
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Both the final war and the WG as the final antagonist are suggested by the author himself:
"Nakata: Many are looking forward to what happens next in One Piece. Could you give us a message for them ?
Oda : One thing that motivates me to keep drawing One Piece is that I want to draw the last chapter. The last chapter is amazing ! I imagine a final chapter that will make the Marineford arc look like nothing.
Nakata : Seriously ?!
Oda : The Marineford arc really felt like a side trip to me. I didn’t expect it to be so popular. So I don’t know how readers will take this one. But the thing I think is really interesting will be in that last chapter. Until then, I’d like as many of the fans as possible to stick with me.
Nakata : Believe me, they will. I’m looking forward to finding out what happens next, too !
Oda : Yessir !"Here is the evidence:
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@Monkey:http://www.arlongpark.net/showthread.php?t=43947&page=10&p=3667095&viewfull=1#post3667095
SBS translations from new volumeLemme hone in more there.
Blackbeard's interest in history merely makes him the perfect candidate for the battle for One Piece, given that One Piece is most likely the Real Poneglyph.
Were you suggesting that Blackbeard will be the final antagonist because of his interest in history? If so, you need to provide a 'warrant' and an explicit conclusion to your enthymematic argument because it doesn't help your case with its current form.
@Monkey:SomeWrongGuy strikes again.
Dude, what is the matter with you and name calling? You don't see him calling you 'Monkey Kid' or some other name. Such infantile acts are better left to children.
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I imagine a final chapter that will make the Marineford arc look like nothing.
How does that imply the WG as final antagonist?
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@Bartholemew:
How does that imply the WG as final antagonist?
It's the words of Oda combined with the words of Whitebeard, about the WG dreading the day someone finds out the truth and that it will throw the entire world into chaos (or something to that effect).
The implication is there, to say the least.
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@Bartholemew:
How does that imply the WG as final antagonist?
There is only one battle that could make the Marineford arc look like nothing and that is the battle that will engulf the entire world – the battle that threatens the WG, and the battle in which the One Piece was said would play a role.
And since Oda will dedicate to it the final chapter of his magnum opus, it follows that it will be the final battle and its antagonist will be the final antagonist.
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It's the words of Oda combined with the words of Whitebeard, about the WG dreading the day someone finds out the truth and that it will throw the entire world into chaos (or something to that effect).
The implication is there, to say the least.
(16 characters) Indeed.
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Threatening the WG doesn't equate with the WG necessarily being the final antagonist.
Also, final chapter doesn't have to mean literally one chapter - especially given the way Oda talks about it. Instead it can be seen as the final story segment as it makes way more sense to compare an actual arc to the Marineford arc than just a single chapter.
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@Bartholemew:
Threatening the WG doesn't equate with the WG necessarily being the final antagonist.
Also, final chapter doesn't have to mean literally one chapter - especially given the way Oda talks about it. Instead it can be seen as the final story segment as it makes way more sense to compare an actual arc to the Marineford arc than just a single chapter.
Not necessarily, but it's somewhat implied, which is all we're saying. The WG will definitely play some part though, final antagonist or not.
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Of course, the WG will play its part. However, in no way anything mentioned here implies the WG to be the final antagonist.
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Marineford was a microcosm of the big war that Oda will be going for in the future: he has said this in the Marineford arc and interviews more than once. You act like the war consisted of two sides when it is blatantly obvious that it had three– 'good pirates' (WB , Luffy, etc.), bad pirates (Blackbeard), and the World Government. Whether or not you agree the Blackbeards are the Strawhat's final adversaries is irrelevant: it is extremely clear that Blackbeard simply being the final hurdle to One Piece, and not taking a role in the final war is an impossibility. Blackbeard [could] be taken down at Raftel (no matter how unlikely it is), but even if he is, he will take a major role in the final conflict: Oda has this set in stone. Stop trying to deny Blackbeard's importance.
Before I end this post, I must bring up one thing. Have you ever read any of the One Shots that Oda made as prototypes for One Piece? In them, Oda mentioned three conflicting sides: Peacemain (good pirates), Morganeers (bad pirates [real world pirates]), and Marines. While two of these sides never made in to the Manga officially, it is very apparent Oda has followed this factional formula in the actual manga (please don't deny this). As you may know, Oda has plotted the end of One Piece since the series inception (it was only supposed to be serialized for 5 years after all). Any author worth their salt (which you and I can agree Oda is one) capitalizes upon the major themes of their work when said work reaches it climax. That said, wouldn't it be bizarre if only two of these factions took part in the final conflict when the third faction is just as important. As Blackbeard embodies the Morganeers Oda was going for when he established those three factions in One Piece's early moments, wouldn't it be unfitting for him to just watch the final conflict take place when he is, quite literally, the symbol of the Morganeers.
I promised to end my post after my previous point, but one more thing. If Oda made a clear effort to establish the Marines (and the World Government by extension) as the primary source of conflict within the Manga, you may have a point in believing what you believe, but, the vast majority of all the conflict in One Piece has been the result of bad pirates doing bad things (Alvida, Buggy, Kuro, Krieg, Arlong, Baroque Works, Galdino, Wapol, Crocodile, Bellamy, Moriah, Blackbeard, Hody, Doflamingo, Jack). Of course the WG is not blameless (Morgan, CP9), but the point stands, bad piracy is far more to blame for the evil in the world than the corrupt, but not completely evil, institution that attempts to stop it. If bad pirates are more to blame for the evil in the world, wouldn't it make more sense for the greater evil (in the form of Blackbeard) to be stamped out last rather than first than the more grey institution. In most epic adventure stories, a genre One Piece obviously belongs to, the greatest evil is taken care of last. As it is clear bad pirates are that evil, why should One Piece be any different?
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^That was nicely put. At most, like you said, Blackbeard is "defeated" at Raftel, but escapes to acquire an ancient weapon. If that is the case, then the Ancient Weapons location would be the scenery where Luffy v Goverment v Blackbeard final clash would be. Wars will begin around the world because of the secret the Rio Poneglyph has got to reveal. Unless you think EVERYONE will be where Luffy is during the final war, let's be honest, the government just needs 1 Pacifista to guard against any of the islands we have seen from East Blue. The government just needs to sends the ~pacifiers Pacifista~ against the kingdoms that would ally with Luffy.
Another big clue are the Ancient Weapons. Let's say the Government has 1. Then we have Poseidon (Luffy's ally). Fine, let's say there are two missing weapons. Does anyone believe they will not play a fundamental role in this final conflict? That would only make sense if Poseidon was not a living being. When Franky burnt the blueprints you could argue, maybe they would not show up. But I am pretty sure Franky has implemented at least some of the design's into the Thousand's Sunny weaponry. Maybe I am stretching it.
Whitebeard words could be used to push Blackbeard into the final war. He is not the one Roger was looking for, right? Which means that whatever will, or ambition is driving Blackbeard will be in direct confrontation with the man everyone is being reminded of Roger by: Luffy. Now we have confirmed that Blackbeard has an interest in history, which pushes him more torwards a conflict between his and Luffy's the interpretation of the Will of D.
I have argued before that one of the few ways that Blackbeard would not be important towards the previous point is: if he was a fake. Which I have agreed that is a funny idea. But this reveal would have to be so dramatic and well constructed that the entire build up Blackbeard has had until now somehow does not feel pointless or a waste.
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Blackbeard's interest in history merely makes him the perfect candidate for the battle for One Piece, given that One Piece is most likely the Real Poneglyph.
Were you suggesting that Blackbeard will be the final antagonist because of his interest in history? If so, you need to provide a 'warrant' and an explicit conclusion to your enthymematic argument because it doesn't help your case with its current form.
Because the final confrontation is most assuredly going to involve the events of the Void Century, the Ancient Kingdom, the Will of D, etc. History is going to play a huge part in the finale. Blackbeard having an interest in history is a huge red flag for that.
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Both the final war and the WG as the final antagonist are suggested by the author himself:
"Nakata: Many are looking forward to what happens next in One Piece. Could you give us a message for them ?
Oda : One thing that motivates me to keep drawing One Piece is that I want to draw the last chapter. The last chapter is amazing ! I imagine a final chapter that will make the Marineford arc look like nothing.Blackbeard's interest in history merely makes him the perfect candidate for the battle for One Piece, given that One Piece is most likely the Real Poneglyph.
The Real Poneglyph apparently becomes irrelevant and uninvolved with anything after Raftel? Wow, well that's a unique take on things, if you're sure you want to be known for thinking that go ahead I guess.
Were you suggesting that Blackbeard will be the final antagonist because of his interest in history? If so, you need to provide a 'warrant' and an explicit conclusion to your enthymematic argument because it doesn't help your case with its current form.
I wonder if its already starting to dawn on you that reality is moving against you, entirely in spite of your (attempt) at formality in theory making. You think you're doing everything right, everything full proof, everything. But already your mind is starting to panic way back in the deep of your brain. Reality is not matching you, and its matching the other guy. And your strange little point missing crusade is going to shatter hard soon enough.
Dude, what is the matter with you and name calling? You don't see him calling you 'Monkey Kid' or some other name. Such infantile acts are better left to children.
As opposed to your extremely mature and adult "College Freshman posing as intellectual through half understood complexity". Throw them stones!
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It's the words of Oda combined with the words of Whitebeard, about the WG dreading the day someone finds out the truth and that it will throw the entire world into chaos (or something to that effect).
The implication is there, to say the least.
If you think Oda and Whitebeard saying there will be a really big conflict at the end of the series worse than Marineford after the One Piece is discovered means Blackbeard is irrelevant to that, then you've never read a single Blackbeard theory post and need to shut up until you go do that.
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There is only one battle that could make the Marineford arc look like nothing and that is the battle that will engulf the entire world – the battle that threatens the WG, and the battle in which the One Piece was said would play a role.
Wow so even YOU haven't read any actual Blackbeard theory?!
You know in all your formal logic posing I would think "Reading and understanding the other side's position" would be a factor but I guess not??
Hmm, actually I'm starting to think you have only been arguing against "Blackbeard" as a name, and not "Blackbeard" the theory this whole time.
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I think the final villain will be pirate rather than a WG figure.
Goku for nakama
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I think the final villain will be pirate rather than a WG figure.
Clap, Clap, Clap Come on guys, give this dude an applause. He knows what hes talking about.
Quite honestly, in a manga about pirates, why should the big bad be anything but a freaking pirate?
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Quite honestly, in a manga about pirates, why should the big bad be anything but a freaking pirate?
In a certain manga about ninjas…
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The final villain of Bleach was a Shinigami…And then gone to Quincy.
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As far as I see it, once Luffy beats Blackbeard ON RAFTEL, he will be considered the PIRATE KING.
The only way it is the Marines is IF Raftel reveals something crazy that the government wants hidden and it leads to a clash of pirates + revos vs. govt
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As far as I see it, once Luffy beats Blackbeard ON RAFTEL, he will be considered the PIRATE KING.
Absolutely nothing about Blackbeard's plot suggests that he is being set up to be a disposable muscle guardian to just throw out of the way on Raftel.
The only way it is the Marines is IF Raftel reveals something crazy that the government wants hidden and it leads to a clash of pirates + revos vs. govt
And there's also the apocalyptic weapons…but yeah people get really amnesiac about those when the topic of ancient secrets comes up.
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As far as I see it, once Luffy beats Blackbeard ON RAFTEL, he will be considered the PIRATE KING.
The only way it is the Marines is IF Raftel reveals something crazy that the government wants hidden and it leads to a clash of pirates + revos vs. govt
There's no 'if' about it. The True History, the thing the World Government wants covered up at all costs, will be revealed on Raftel. All the links are there. We learned from Rayleigh on Sabaody that the the Roger Pirates were able to uncover the truth behind the Void Century. Raftel cannot be reached without understanding Poneglyphs, the things that contain the True History. The people that made the Poneglyphs that contain the history left a map to Raftel with the Road Poneglyphs. Not to mention from a writing standpoint, it'd be weird to reveal the True History, the backbone of the overarching plot, and resolve all it entails at any point but the climax of the story.
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In a certain manga about ninjas…
If Oda was a terrible author, you might have a point, but Oda's fundamentals have proven to be rather good, so I feel that won't happen.
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There's no 'if' about it. The True History, the thing the World Government wants covered up at all costs, will be revealed on Raftel. All the links are there. We learned from Rayleigh on Sabaody that the the Roger Pirates were able to uncover the truth behind the Void Century. Raftel cannot be reached without understanding Poneglyphs, the things that contain the True History. The people that made the Poneglyphs that contain the history left a map to Raftel with the Road Poneglyphs. Not to mention from a writing standpoint, it'd be weird to reveal the True History, the backbone of the overarching plot, and resolve all it entails at any point but the climax of the story.
Blackbeard also likes history so he can most likely read poneglyph's instead of someone in his crew as well so the blackbeard pirates are going to raftel and like i have said before they will be stealing the anicent weapon roger dumped there that use to be on alabastia that crocodile could not find.
No final villiain in one piece since it will be a final war between 3 sides and we have 3 ancient weapons.
Straw hats + alliances - mermaid princess - possiden fishman island
Blackbeard pirates + alliances - Pluton raftel roger put it there shiki knew he found a anicent weapon and crocodile would not find it with his sand powers in a land of sand.
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@sanji''s_dad:
Blackbeard also likes history so he can most likely read poneglyph's instead of someone in his crew as well so the blackbeard pirates are going to raftel and like i have said before they will be stealing the anicent weapon roger dumped there that use to be on alabastia that crocodile could not find.
No final villiain in one piece since it will be a final war between 3 sides and we have 3 ancient weapons.
Straw hats + alliances - mermaid princess - possiden fishman island
Blackbeard pirates + alliances - Pluton raftel roger put it there shiki knew he found a anicent weapon and crocodile would not find it with his sand powers in a land of sand.
world govt + alliances e.g 170 countrys that are not allied to straw hats,marines,CP assassins,ect. - Uranus nation treasure on holy landThis guy has the right idea. Just saying…......
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@sanji''s_dad:
No final villiain in one piece since it will be a final war between 3 sides and we have 3 ancient weapons.
Straw hats + alliances - mermaid princess - possiden fishman island
Blackbeard pirates + alliances - Pluton raftel roger put it there shiki knew he found a anicent weapon and crocodile would not find it with his sand powers in a land of sand.
world govt + alliances e.g 170 countrys that are not allied to straw hats,marines,CP assassins,ect. - Uranus nation treasure on holy landAnd the sentences of the world breathed easy that night, no longer to be forced to endlessly run on.
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Wait. sanji's_dad got banned? Its not an april fool's cleanup and his last post was ok, he even put punctuation. O_O
↑Biological Weaopn of Doom and Destruction
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@le:
Wait. sanji's_dad got banned? Its not an april fool's cleanup and his last post was ok, he even put punctuation. O_O
There's a purge in the winds. Others have fallen already.
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@Monkey:
There's a purge in the winds. Others have fallen already.
Eh, who else? 16 characters
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@le:
Eh, who else? 16 characters
Veris, who was apparently Earthquake.
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@le:
Wait. sanji's_dad got banned? Its not an april fool's cleanup and his last post was ok, he even put punctuation. O_O
Sometimes spring cleaning for April Fools just isn't enough. No point in putting up with stuff for a year just to hit that arbitrary date. We didn't really do one in April this year anyway.
Several other posters are gone now that have just been generally abrasive or problematic, but haven't quite done one specific or outrageous post warranting banning.
Insert an Independance Day quote here.
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Insert an Independance Day quote here.
Give me liberty, or give me One Piece!I think that's the quote.
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@Monkey:
Ordinarily I might agree that I'm being harsh. And not care.
But no this is "Case#2: Maybe this is the time Zephos is wrong about someone?".
The garbage sort of debating Austrosemantia uses is a contagion. You'll notice as soon as he enters Whoosh mode I cease debate when I normally don't do that.
If you have the ultimately silly if frustrating OroJackson posting of say…Joy Boy's Will. This is the flip side of aggressive cancerous OroJackson posting that comes with footnotes and citations.
It's like the difference between an illiterate skinhead, and a tenured professor who writes massive notated Holocaust Denial books.
The latter is actually way more dangerous.
So yes please keep hemming and hawing about how poor widdle him is bein' attacked lol.
If you people actually welcome that sort of posting, this is not your forum and good riddance to you.An illiterate skinhead?
And I wasn't even part of this discussion lol
I find it ironic that you refer to Australopithicus's postings as cancerous xD
To the point of this thread, it is blatantly obvious the fight vs. the WG is the endgame, and the battle vs. Blackbeard will decide who will become the pirate king. There is a clear implication that luffy must first become the PK, before he is allowed to read the true history, and come to understand why the WG must be brought down. It's very simple. You focus too much on your understanding of how to write a story, and not enough on the actual story you are reading.
Aus argued this quite well, with clear logical deductions based on actual evidence from the story of One Piece. I'll repost it so maybe you can have another chance to understand it.
I'll tell you why Blackbeard exists. Blackbeard exist to be Luffy's ultimate rival about becoming the Pirate King. Blackbeard's plan has been to become the Pirate King all along, and he had some incredible luck in such a plan.
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I think Teech and Luffy’s combat will parallel Whitebeard and Roger’s fight. The battle between Luffy and Teech must be the decisive battle about the rightful successor to Roger's throne. That should do him justice.
If the government crumbles before the discovery of One Piece, what purpose would One Piece serve then given that its true nature is highly likely the Real Poneglyph – the Pandora box that the government, for 800 years, has been going to great lengths to keep sealed? (I am talking about the content of One Piece here.)
After Robin read the poneglyph of Skypea, she realized that Roger must have, created for the first time, the Real Poneglyph.
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The biggest hint regarding the true nature of One Piece is when Robin was inquiring about the nature of the Real Poneglyph:
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When Kinemon was revealing to everyone present the reason behind Kaido's pursuit, he said that it was because of the secrets of the world that Oden acquired in his voyage with Roger to Raftel.
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After that, Robin started recalling Rayleigh's words about the Blank Century: ‘we learned about everything that occurred’.
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In other words, in Raftel, the island wherein One Piece is rumored to exist, holds the historical records of the Void Century. These are solid hints to the nature of One Piece: the Real Poneglyph. Ironically in that very chapter, right after Robin finished asking Rayleigh about the ancient history, Usopp consecutively followed her question to Rayleigh with another question about One Piece’s existence in Raftel.
Moments before his death, Whitebeard tied the great war that the World Government dreads ‘directly’ to One Piece.
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The way he said it was clearly suggesting that One Piece will play a crucial role in that war. There is no way around it as the great war was said in the context of a discussion revolving around One Piece.
After Whitebeard publicly announced that the One Piece exists, Sengoku furiously cursed him for that.
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It is therefore evident that One Piece causes the government a Brobdingnagian inconvenience as much as the ancient history does.
Since One Piece will play a vital role in that war, it cannot be reached without Teech's defeat considering that it was clearly stated that Luffy must defeat the four emperors **'before' becoming the pirate king or finding the one piece (since these two phrases are used interchangeably in the story to express the same idea).
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Even Luffy said that if he doesn’t vanquish the four emperors, he won’t become the pirate king.
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The four emperors have already been set as an unavoidable obstacle that Luffy has to break through in order to become the pirate king, and this was indicated also by the ‘red poneglyphs’ that were said to be in possession of some of them and sought by all of them.
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So, Blackbeard must be defeated **‘before’ Luffy finds One Piece, & this will make the government the final villain.
Also, after Rayleigh told Robin that he and his crew mates knew all of the history of the Void Century, he further added to that that even if he told her the history of the Void Century **‘as she is now’, there was nothing she could have done about it.
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In other words, once the history of the void century becomes known to the Straw Hats, that seems to hint to the scenario that such knowledge will compel them to take actions against the World Government.
Moreover, the Straw Hats have already declared an all out war against the World Government.
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It’s only natural for this loose end to be tied in due time, and to do that, the Straw Hats have to take a central role in the direct overthrow of the World Government.
Finally, One Piece (the story) has a pattern in its plotline: the past events of the first half of the story are mirrored later on in its second half in chronological order.
Just as the beginning of the first half of the story had the downfall of a warlord that uses base means to usurp the throne of a country, so did the second half. The author has been creating amazingly & chronologically clear parallels between the two halves of the story, allowing us to predict to a certain degree the future happenings of events. And since the culmination of the first half of the story was a war between the government's forces and pirates, it is reasonable to conclude that the culmination of the second half will be a war that parallels the first one, but on a phenomenal scale, making the WG the final villain.******"If I get reincarnated…. I wanna become a clam."
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^Yes, everything you said is evidence, but no one is denying that the government will be involved in the final war. These are the missing pieces to keep adding on:
How do the 3 ancient weapons come into play? We know at least 1 is on the Luffy's side, but is it really possible that the remaining 2 weapons of mass destruction be in the hand of the government. The power of each alone is hinted to be catastrophic, is the WG really going to be the one to have both?
The more logical, not so one sided scenario is that 3 independent parties hold one each. Luffy, WG, X. Whom could this X be?
The most crucial piece of information is that there probably two discoveries going to be made on raftel. The Void Century AND the location of the final ancient weapon. It is highly especulated that the government already has in posession one of them. Considering that Blackbeard is the most developed villain, unlike one dimensional absolute justice, it is highly likely he is the candidate for the last weapon. Some throw a curveball and put Enel forward. I throw the ball back and say Mustachio Roger.
The funny part is: I don't even want BB as the final villain, but at this point of story it is hard to deny it anymore. I'll put perspective: Currently Luffy is seeking an alliance with Marco and his crew to defeat Kaido, funny thing is, Blackbeard already defeated them. Putting automatically Blackbeard higher than Kaido as a threat. If you can't see this connection, oh well. Let's keep going. Since….Logue town the revolutionary army has been built up as a main player fighting against the government. However, recent events has put them on the defensive because of Blackbeard again. So, the revos vs government is still most likely end game, but Blackbeard interfering like that also makes him a player capable of fighting on those grounds. Of course BB is not ready yet.(I believe he is going to show up to steal devilbfruits after wano, he will succeed, therefore more power.)
Just some pointers:
- i think that Dragon lured Blackbeard and feigned retreat. However the previous point still stands.
-i think the egg on Roger ship will hold some relevance during the end game.
-Ancient weapons: Poseidon controls monsters. Pluton is the peak of technology. Could Uranus be a mythical creature? Yes I'm trying to connect the egg and the Ancient Weapons.
Main issue with the WG being the only final villain: The void century they are trying to cover up, the truth will probably both the predessesor of the WG and the Ancient Kingdom at war. But neither of these factions are fighting for greater good or the world. Both are trying to complete their own agenda. The only one trying to stop the madness is Joy Boy.
PS: Yes I can write pages on pages too.
- i think that Dragon lured Blackbeard and feigned retreat. However the previous point still stands.
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For fucks sake use [hide] tags when you're posting that many images.
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Pro-tip: If you are gonna say that X is the Final Villain, remember to prove that Y is not the Final Villain.
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A few questions for those who say that the WG will be the final antagonist: 1) What role will Blackbeard play during the final war? 2) What exactly will be the motivation for the WG in this final war? If your answer for the latter question is to keep the true history secret furthermore, then: 3) What will be the motivation of Luffy and his allies in the war?
