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      @Tizoc:

      Umm the english releases of Yakuzas 3 and 4 are very good and well transitioned from the JP ver.
      Granted there are some stuff they couldn't translate (like one of the arcade games), but the games overall are a fantastic, manly experience.

      I know, I have played them… The ones I want are those which aren't translated into english... Ryu ga Gotoko Kenzan and ryu ga gotoko of the end. And the PSP game too.
      UNLESS the Asia version is somehow translated, did anyone buy it?

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        Of the End will be seeing an English release. Not only cause they'd be fools not to release the most Western appealing entry in the series yet, but a SEGA producer let it slip in an interview some months back that it's a working title for the West. He also said Kenzan is still very much a possibility, it just depends. Black Panther tho, with the low sales the PSP gets in the West coupled with the Vita coming out, we probably won't get it.

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          @Legato:

          I know, I have played them… The ones I want are those which aren't translated into english... Ryu ga Gotoko Kenzan and ryu ga gotoko of the end. And the PSP game too.
          UNLESS the Asia version is somehow translated, did anyone buy it?

          I don't think Kenzan would get an Eng release, but one can hope. However, I've heard that the combat in 3 and 4 are a lot better than in Kenzan.
          …and I expect of the end to get an Eng release, guess they just didn't announce it at E3 😃

          ..as far as Panther's concerned, I wouldn't mind another game for Vita at least.

          @Flux:

          Anyhow - all these awesome games are coming out just as my cash is running dry so I was caught up - I wanted to get Duke Nukem Forever, but then I saw and ad for Infamous 2. Apparently aside from the nostalgia factor of the Nukem series, the new one is pretty shit.

          From what I've heard, Forever is pretty short, but not bad. If you liked the playstyle of the original games you may like this one.
          Dunno about online multiplayer tho, but with these types of games, it's the multiplayer that gives the games their replayablility (sp)

          I just beat DeathSpank yesterday and will soon start on ToV. The cutscene for

          ! the Prognator 3000 was hilariously awesome. "It was bigger in the cutscene" XD

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            @Flux:

            Anyhow - all these awesome games are coming out just as my cash is running dry so I was caught up - I wanted to get Duke Nukem Forever, but then I saw and ad for Infamous 2. Apparently aside from the nostalgia factor of the Nukem series, the new one is pretty shit.

            Eh. I want Duke Nukem since it's a part of history. However I just KNOW that in a month or two it'll be down to £20 and I just can't see the reason to get it now.

            Oh hey, I do videos on figures and manga and stuff: https://www.youtube.com/thatmanhismerch

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              duke nukem is terrible, its about 6 years behind current games…

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                @overtakenzoro:

                duke nukem is terrible, its about 6 years behind current games…

                And which current games are these? I'm kinda intrigued. If it's in terms of FPS games I think being 6 years behind is probably an advantage.

                Oh hey, I do videos on figures and manga and stuff: https://www.youtube.com/thatmanhismerch

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                  And which current games are these? I'm kinda intrigued. If it's in terms of FPS games I think being 6 years behind is probably an advantage.

                  He's right on this one though.

                  They've kind of rushed it a little without breaking the boundaries. The only thing keeping this afloat is the hoard of fans and people that just want ridiculous action. Saying that the money generated from this game will probably be put towards the next one, which I'd guess has the potential to shit on most other rivals at the time in terms of revenue.

                  You know it sounds weird saying it has been rushed when it has been worked on the past 12 years or so.

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                    Eh. I want Duke Nukem since it's a part of history. However I just KNOW that in a month or two it'll be down to £20 and I just can't see the reason to get it now.

                    Balls of Steel Edition's the reason why I bought it now…

                    @Buuhan1:

                    Of the End will be seeing an English release. Not only cause they'd be fools not to release the most Western appealing entry in the series yet, but a SEGA producer let it slip in an interview some months back that it's a working title for the West. He also said Kenzan is still very much a possibility, it just depends. Black Panther tho, with the low sales the PSP gets in the West coupled with the Vita coming out, we probably won't get it.

                    Depends on what? I would really like to see all the yakuza games released here and will buy them when possibe.

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                      That was just his wording, probably depends on Yakuza 4's and Of the End's (when it comes out) sales.

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                        He also said Kenzan is still very much a possibility, it just depends. Black Panther tho, with the low sales the PSP gets in the West coupled with the Vita coming out, we probably won't get it.

                        Given how long ago Kenzan came out I pretty much have given up all hope of it ever being localized.

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                        I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting

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                          Yeah I've heard that Duke Nukem Forever is a pretty terrible game as well. Shame since it took so long to be released. But I suppose that's what you get for having it shift companies and engines so much.

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                            You know it sounds weird saying it has been rushed when it has been worked on the past 12 years or so.

                            Not to be rude, but you say that as if the current game is what was it was intended to play as a decade ago. How do you know the game was changed drastically since it was announced 10 or so years ago?

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                              First Chinese Democracy now Duke Nukem Forever…damn.

                              Originally Posted by Ubiq

                              I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting

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                                I'm not surprised Duke Nukem Forever is a bad game, I'm more surprised that people expected Duke Nukem Forever to be a GOOD game. There was no hope of that.

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                                  @Buuhan1:

                                  That was just his wording, probably depends on Yakuza 4's and Of the End's (when it comes out) sales.

                                  I see, well not a lot of hope there… But I'm glad they're releasing Of the End, thats a big plus ^^
                                  Even though it'll probably take another year =/

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                                    @Legato:

                                    I see, well not a lot of hope there… But I'm glad they're releasing Of the End, thats a big plus ^^
                                    Even though it'll probably take another year =/

                                    A year to translate and release games as massive as the Yakuza games is incredibly impressive if you ask me. Any less time and they'd have to leave huge chunks of Japanese text all about. Also, when last questioned about it SEGA of America said the sales of Yakuza 3 and 4 have been positive. A far cry from Yakuza 1 and 2's sales where they were basically saying they would be throwing money away if they brought anymore over.

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                                      @Tizoc:

                                      Not to be rude, but you say that as if the current game is what was it was intended to play as a decade ago. How do you know the game was changed drastically since it was announced 10 or so years ago?

                                      I was told the original people in charge took so long trying to make it that the whole thing was handed over to another group all together. And from what I've gathered so far they didn't have much to work on from the material at hand. Not just that but the stuff that was put together was dated and uninspiring compared to the games and progression that had happened over a ten year period. Which means they would have probably started from scratch, but stolen ideas here and there in regards to the Duke himself.

                                      Now if you take all of that into account you get an idea just how little time has been spent on making this. Its a shame it had to come back under these circumstances.

                                      I think the trailer kind of gives away just how different it will be, while giving off that rushed vibe throughout. The only pro as I mentioned above is that the money generated from this will most likely be put towards another game in another league of its own.

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                                        Just found something intresting on my PS3:
                                        a Add On called PS2 System Data..What is it for?
                                        Says something about allowing PS2 Software that needs a hard disk install to be played on PS3

                                        <avi drawing="" credit="" to="" pirateneko<br="">My DeviantArt:http://mediafan658.deviantart.com/

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                                          @KaizokuFan22:

                                          Just found something intresting on my PS3:
                                          a Add On called PS2 System Data..What is it for?
                                          Says something about allowing PS2 Software that needs a hard disk install to be played on PS3

                                          It was for launch PS3's, the ones which had PS2 compatibility. It was so people could play the very very VERY few PS2 games that required a hard drive, such as Final Fantasy XI.

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                                            Hmmmm . . . here's a question:

                                            If I get a Vita, can I transfer the free copy of LBP that I got from Sony? Platformers are something I like better on handhelds than consoles.

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                                              Yeah, all of the digital PSP games will work on Vita.

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                                                A Sony rep also said in a recent Vita Q&A that they're "considering what to do about UMD support" on the Vita. So despite how little, there seems to be a chance we'll be able to do something with the UMDs.

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                                                  @RuNa:

                                                  Yeah, all of the digital PSP games will work on Vita.

                                                  I meant my PS3, I don't own a PSP.

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                                                    Way to go.

                                                    Found out my Final Fantasy IX Disc 2 doesn't work. So instead of hunting down the game I thought I'd just download the PSN one. £7.99 later I booted it up and loaded my save…

                                                    'PLEASE INSERT DISC 2! NO DISC IS INSERTED!'

                                                    Thanks a bunch Sony/Square/Whoever.

                                                    Edit: Wow. Quick response from customer support. Apparently before you load the game you have to select which disc you have to load. XD

                                                    Oh hey, I do videos on figures and manga and stuff: https://www.youtube.com/thatmanhismerch

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                                                      @Satsuki:

                                                      I meant my PS3, I don't own a PSP.

                                                      Well, the downloadable PSP and PS1 games are playable on the PSP or PS3, so I imagine that would carry over to the Vita. (PS2 games however have emulation problems) And the Vita supposedly has PS3 specs, so it might be able to run PS3 games, but I don't know if its anything official yet on that.

                                                      I still haven't gotten the free games. I want to download the games I am apparently entitled to, but my PSP won't accept my old password, and when I try to go to the sony website to change it, (the adress my psp gives me when I try to go to the store) that always seems to be down.

                                                      Bastards.

                                                      I suppose I should try again soon.

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                                                      'PLEASE INSERT DISC 2! NO DISC IS INSERTED!'

                                                      Thanks a bunch Sony/Square/Whoever.

                                                      Sounds like you're saved at the transition scene between disks, and I can see that being a thing they wouldn't really have a solution too, since 99.99% of the time you're going to be ON one disk or another, rather than the inbetween. Do you have a file saved slightly before the end of disk 1?

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                                                        I finally got fed up of carting around my psp games and put some CFW on my PSP, and ripped a few games to the memory card. Will help me travel lighter to work, and hopefully the battery life will improve now that it's not spinning a disc.

                                                        The best thing is that Ys Ark of Napishtim is finally playable.

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                                                          @Darkstorm:

                                                          I finally got fed up of carting around my psp games and put some CFW on my PSP, and ripped a few games to the memory card.

                                                          How do you do that? there's a few games I'd like to hardwire into my system as well.

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                                                            Despite Microsoft buying them, Skype will be featured on the Vita just like the PSP.

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                                                              This is the guide I used:

                                                              http://wololo.net/wagic/cfw-for-dummies-6-37-or-above-on-a-psp-go-psp-3000-or-ta88v3/

                                                              Since I'm on a 3000, I can't install permanent firmware. Tried both TN-HEN and VF's pro-b6, got loads of freezes on TN, but pro-b6 has been working nicely. I don't know if any of these are the ones that people have complained of bricking their systems in the past since I was so fed up I didn't even care if it happened, so use at your own risk.

                                                              Some Pro-B6 downloads come with some sort of "Permanent" version that auto loads the cfw each time too, I never tried this since there were complaints in the comments that suggested it might be dangerous, and it's not exactly necessary. I don't think wolo's had this anyway.

                                                              Now that the don't-blame-me's are out of the way, happy to help if there's anything in the guide that you're not sure on.

                                                              For the actual ripping there's an application called iso_tool - you'll want to put the "iso_tool" folder that is in \iso_tool_cfw\PSP\GAME\ of the zipped file in the OP of that thread into \PSP\GAME on your psp once the cfw's done. Like the cfw itself, it boots from game->memory card on the XMB - but only while cfw is enabled. You'll find games you've ripped will turn up in \ISO

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                                                                I barely play on my PSP so I've decided if/when I get a Vita, I'll probably hack my PSP. Hopefully get some use out of it and not brick it.

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                                                                  My PSP is hacked. I have a 1000, though, so it is a perma-hack.

                                                                  Can play any game and has dynamic themes.

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                                                                    You'll have to teach me someday, tho the difference in models may hinder that.

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                                                                      How many more months of shitty PSN+ offers do we have to go through before it's kosher to complain about free things

                                                                      Because I had PSN+ for half a year before this fiasco and it was never as bad as LILO AND STITCH THE GAME

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                                                                      Seriously what the fuck. Is this a conspiracy to make sure that this entire month is a waste? Streets of Rage 2 is great and all but out of all the possible games on PS1, Lilo and fucking Stitch?

                                                                      Seriously?

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                                                                        @RobbyBevard:

                                                                        Sounds like you're saved at the transition scene between disks, and I can see that being a thing they wouldn't really have a solution too, since 99.99% of the time you're going to be ON one disk or another, rather than the inbetween. Do you have a file saved slightly before the end of disk 1?

                                                                        That's what I did lol. I thought it was the perfect time to finish for the night.

                                                                        Although I found you can select which disc you want to play before you start the game and also by pressing the PS button brings up a menu saying 'Play Disc' as an option to change. I thought it woulda just continued on with the download version.

                                                                        Oh hey, I do videos on figures and manga and stuff: https://www.youtube.com/thatmanhismerch

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                                                                          I actually played the PS1 Lilo & Stitch game due to it being on PS+, it's actually not bad. It's a carbon copy of Crash Bandicoot, and that's probably why it's not bad. But yeah, PS+ has been pretty dreadful. I got it back in March for a year via a gameshare and there's been next to nothing. It saddens me to know that they did have some good items and games there previously, but alas they take them down after a month.

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                                                                            @Holy:

                                                                            How many more months of shitty PSN+ offers do we have to go through before it's kosher to complain about free things

                                                                            Because I had PSN+ for half a year before this fiasco and it was never as bad as LILO AND STITCH THE GAME

                                                                            MAGIC THE GATHERING

                                                                            Seriously what the fuck. Is this a conspiracy to make sure that this entire month is a waste? Streets of Rage 2 is great and all but out of all the possible games on PS1, Lilo and fucking Stitch?

                                                                            Seriously?

                                                                            I honestly don't know how so many Dinsey PSX games even got on PSN, only a few were good IMO.
                                                                            Magic the Gathering is cool, I only played the one from a few months ago thanks to it being free on PSN. Makes me want to play the real version more tho XD

                                                                            EU PSN has a discount on DLCs until July 6th-
                                                                            http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2011/06/24/psn-dlc-game-store-update-24th-june-2011/

                                                                            June 28th will be the release of the Uncharted 3 Beta. If you have PSN+ you can get and keep it after ur PSN+ expires. Otherwise, you'll need a code to access the Beta or just wait til a week or 2 to play it.

                                                                            EDIT: Almost done with Trinity: Souls of Zill O'll. Will defeat the Dragon King then enter the final dungeon. I'll see if I can get at least 2 more trophies when I finish the game but grinding for them is gonna be a bore.

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                                                                              Any JRPGs or just downright great games people can recomend for the PSP? I noticed my local store had a ton of new games for £2-£3 each (excluding Kingdom Hearts which was £18) picked up Katamari and Final Fantasy Tactics (They had Breath of Fire 3 in too but already own.)

                                                                              Kinda wish they had Star Ocean (they had it the week before for £8 but sold out now) but meh.

                                                                              Oh hey, I do videos on figures and manga and stuff: https://www.youtube.com/thatmanhismerch

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                                                                                @Cyber-Robin:

                                                                                Any JRPGs or just downright great games people can recomend for the PSP? I noticed my local store had a ton of new games for £2-£3 each (excluding Kingdom Hearts which was £18) picked up Katamari and Final Fantasy Tactics (They had Breath of Fire 3 in too but already own.)

                                                                                Kinda wish they had Star Ocean (they had it the week before for £8 but sold out now) but meh.

                                                                                How about Disgaea 2: Dark Hero Days?

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                                                                                  How about Disgaea 2: Dark Hero Days?

                                                                                  Got it for the PS2. If I see it for under a tenner I may get it tho.

                                                                                  Oh hey, I do videos on figures and manga and stuff: https://www.youtube.com/thatmanhismerch

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                                                                                    Half Minute Hero. though I would class it as an….arcade style rpg I guess? best game on the psp.

                                                                                    Persona 3 Portable unless you have FES on the PS2.
                                                                                    Tales of Eternia unless you already have it on the PSX(TOD2).
                                                                                    FFIV if you don't have the ds remake & the wiiware stuff.
                                                                                    Tactics Ogre even if you have the psx version.
                                                                                    Wild ARMs XF is a fairly fun SRPG too.

                                                                                    Anything else would be a us import.

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                                                                                      ahhhh there's a Wild Arms? I thought it was US import lol

                                                                                      I already got Tales I think. I recall getting a Tales game when I got Breath of Fire 3 all those years ago.

                                                                                      PES 3 I have on PS2, FFIV on DS.

                                                                                      So I think Ill get Tactics Ogre (special edition on Play atm so.), half minute if I can get it cheap and Fat Princess. Maybe Star Ocean 1 and 2 if I see them.

                                                                                      Oh hey, I do videos on figures and manga and stuff: https://www.youtube.com/thatmanhismerch

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                                                                                        The Japanese PS Store finally reopens tomorrow. Here's the Welcome Back picks:

                                                                                        PlayStation 3 (pick two from the list)

                                                                                        The Last Guy
                                                                                        LocoRoco Cocoreccho!
                                                                                        Wipeout HD
                                                                                        Echochrome
                                                                                        Hustler Kings

                                                                                        PSP (pick two from the list)

                                                                                        What Did I Do To Deserve This, My Lord!? 2
                                                                                        LittleBigPlanet
                                                                                        LocoRoco: Midnight Carnival
                                                                                        Everybody’s Stress Buster
                                                                                        Patapon 2

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                                                                                        • Tizoc
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                                                                                          Managed to log into UC3 Beta even though my PSN+ expired 😃
                                                                                          Remember to post any feedback on the Beta to the Naughty Dog forums-
                                                                                          http://forums.naughtydog.com/t5/Multiplayer-Beta-Discussion/bd-p/U3-MP-Beta

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                                                                                          • KaizokuJinbei
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                                                                                            I was waiting to get some form of evidence of the Playstation 4 now I finally got some. Here's an article about it.

                                                                                            http://ps3.ign.com/articles/118/1180451p1.html

                                                                                            So far built in motion control is the only features details.

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                                                                                              Okay it was cool when the Wii did it first but I'm starting to fucking hate all this jumping on the bandwagon of motion controls.

                                                                                              As much as I want to get the next generation of consoles I'm not entirely sure. I have not been impressed by the WiiU yet and if this is true about the PS4…

                                                                                              I might not get this next generation.

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                                                                                                What ?

                                                                                                I can vividly remember the PS3 being launched, they're doing another one ?

                                                                                                I never even got a PS2 ! 😕

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                                                                                                • Conekiller
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                                                                                                  They say it's based on a rumor. I wouldn't take that as confirmation.

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                                                                                                  Please visit my Deviant art gallery.

                                                                                                  There will be Punch and Pie!

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                                                                                                  • Gekko135
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                                                                                                    Games just might end up pissing me off and turning me into a crotchety old man who hates young kids and their new fangled gizmos.

                                                                                                    I love how one of the first comments for the article is saying, what the fuck is wrong with buttons?

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                                                                                                      @Gekko135:

                                                                                                      Games just might end up pissing me off and turning me into a crotchety old man who hates young kids and their new fangled gizmos.

                                                                                                      I'm apparently a Luddite and I'm already there. Motion controls and touch pads do nothing for me, they're all just so… gimmicky. Maybe if I saw actual innovation or new kinds of gameplay coming out of these things, or if the controls were BETTER for it, it'd be one thing. But, loose and unresponsive motion controls for the big systems that can't interpret your broad strokes movements into fine control... Out of every game I own on the DS, World Ends With You is SITLL the only one where the stylus play is intuitive, makes sense, and couldnt be done any other way Same game is the only one to make really great use of the dual screen, too. Mostly it only seems useful for having a built in inventory screen.

                                                                                                      Bad enough touchpads are the future of computers and laptops and ipads whatnot (I LIKE not touching and scratching my screen, thank you) and force ruinous gameplay into my DS games... Forward progress is fine, and its inevitable... but I have yet to see a whole lot of examples where the games themselves are better for sake of having an interactive gimmick and not having a hardwired controller.

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                                                                                                      • KaizokuJinbei
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                                                                                                        @Sakonosolo:

                                                                                                        Okay it was cool when the Wii did it first but I'm starting to fucking hate all this jumping on the bandwagon of motion controls.

                                                                                                        As much as I want to get the next generation of consoles I'm not entirely sure. I have not been impressed by the WiiU yet and if this is true about the PS4…

                                                                                                        I might not get this next generation.

                                                                                                        I agree with the motion control comment after Sony and Microsoft adapted motion controls and created PS Move and Kinect they didn't really do anything with them they didn't make any good games for them for the Kinect Star Wars will probably end up being the best thing to come out for it. And for PS Move they do have some PSM compatable shooters (Socom 4) and there is only a handfull of other games compatable with PSM but nothing note worthy.

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                                                                                                        When I first saw motion control like the connect what I was hoping to see was a FPS that the character when you move your finger the characters finger will move and when you put your hand behind your back to change your weapon your characters arm follows yours the same way. Do a dance and the characters does a dance too lol.

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