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    • e1n
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      DOWNLOAD 355 HERE

      you guys have been deprived of discussion. so here, start talking.

      i've said this to kalei-chan before on umiressha's first departure, when a dream comes true, a HUGE TRAGEDY is bound to happen. this might very well be the most tragic arc of all. might just beat nami's and chopper's.

      hail oda.

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      • oceanizer
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        Actually, download link is in http://raws.kefi.org/gaweawef/onepiece/op355j.zip
        (Moved so that it'll be easier not to be direct linked.)

        Can you please import replies from temp forum??

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        • Majek
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          talk? oh right …ermm

          i still don't like Franky much . but that can change if Oda makes any more chapter like this. 😞

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            Well this chapter didn't change my opinion of Franky(as I never really hated him once he revealed he was a cyborg…). Good chapter though, things are taking a turn for the worse...

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              franky needs to loose the damn speedos

              oh and some speculations

              franky will go and attack spandam, cp5 will naturally beat him and then tom will save him and be sentenced to death for attacking the government

              then naturally, iceberg will blame franky for his death and then franky will leave water 7

              but as for how he gets injured and turned into a cyborg, hell i dont know, maybe the train will run him over or something while tom is saving him

              i really want to know about the goreisie(however the hell you spell it) guys, there is somethin fishy about em

              what do you want to bet that the old guy who has the jewish haircut style is related to luffy (the one with the scar on his face), and also i bet that one of em is related to sanji (thats a long shot but they do look similar)

              bah, ignore these weak ass theorys, 355 didnt give me alot to work with -_-

              ill have better theories with 356…

              the only thing i can come up with is that franky is the cause of toms death (like i said tom will save him and then he will get sentenced to death for doing so), and that would explain why franky left water 7 for all those years and returned 4 years prior to where the story is at right now

              this would kinda also explain why lucci told franky he is guilty of the same crime as tom (attacking the cp fools)

              oh and i bet he spent the 200 million on another battle franky, and that will end up being the straw hats new ship, and finally after the recent flashback paulies chances for becoming the new member have decreased alot, it looks like franky will be it now but hell you never know...

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              • Greg
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                What's the important thing here?

                BOTH FRANKY AND ICE WOULD APPEAR TO KNOW ROBIN'S PAST!!!!

                This can only mean good things.

                oh yeah, good to be back.

                No matter where you go, there you are.

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                  i read the translations by ocean but i dont remember what they or if they said anything about knowing who robin is

                  i could have sworn they only made comments on the pluton and that robins pic was there to tease everyone again…

                  anyways if thats the case, do they say they know who robin is or what? or does tom say something about her?

                  :unsure:

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                  • GoAnderson
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                    Welcome back, omae!

                    Awesome chapter. Thanks to oceanizer (I believe it was him who got it out…) for the raw and the translation! And also to Stephen, for his version of the script!

                    Mm... Yeah, the next chapter would seem to be a turning point. Will Franky "die"? What will become of Tom... ? Will we find out why Yokozuna hates the train?

                    And, more importantly! WILL SPANDAM GET HIS SORRY ASS KICKED? That's what I really want to see.

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                      After reading the script to this chapter, it appears that the requirements to be the leader of a Cypher Pol unit is to be a manipulative, evil, jerk.

                      Sometimes, a dead woman is a dead woman. Sometimes a giant black gorilla is just a giant black gorilla.

                      Stop reading into every little thing.

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                        I can totally see the Strawhats riding around in a Battle Franky!!
                        That'd be so cool, Franky could in a way join the crew!

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                          I don't think Franky will make anything like Battle Franky nor Pluton since that's the main reason getting Tom excuted or at least punished. See, Tom was almost atoned, but because of Battle Franky, even though it wasn't Franky's fault, probably Tom's gone.

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                            CP5 need their collective butts kicked every bit as much as CP9. Talk about an evil weasel. I feel so bad for Franky. I think that we are very shortly going to see the event that leads to him being made a cyborg. This flashback just gets sadder and sadder. Next week will be interesting. We should see just how strong Ice and Tom are. The Battle Frankys are strong enough to take out a sea king so it should be interesting to see whether Tom and Ice (and maybe Franky) can handle them.
                            After the events of the flashback I really look forward to seeing Franky react to Lucci using the word 'Justice' that he seems so fond of.

                            And you can dream - So dream out loud

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                              I agree that Franky is not likely to make Pluton. He's more likely to do all he can to prevent it from coming to be. But we'll find out.

                              I'm most interested to find out if Spandam is still alive and in charge of CP9. Not likely since SS doesn't seem too forgiving with failure but would still be interesting.

                              No matter where you go, there you are.

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                                I agree that Franky isn't likely to be building Pluton. I can believe that he might give them a Battle Franky, but what I'm hoping for is that he has been building a new ship using the blueprints for the one that Tom built for Gold Roger. A tribute to his fallen master an possibly something to stick it to the man (and does the man ever need a good… umm.. it sticking to?... or something... yeah, the man needs it stuck to him! That's it!)

                                And you can dream - So dream out loud

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                                • Khyron
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                                  Man this chapter was instersting as always 😄

                                  クラウディオ

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                                    im back minhawk_lucci (it good to be back), spandam is that guy that always comes to iceburg, but i dont see why he would think iceburg would give him the pluton blueprints if he killed the only father figure iceburg had

                                    I agree that Franky isn't likely to be building Pluton. I can believe that he might give them a Battle Franky, but what I'm hoping for is that he has been building a new ship using the blueprints for the one that Tom built for Gold Roger. A tribute to his fallen master an possibly something to stick it to the man (and does the man ever need a good… umm.. it sticking to?... or something... yeah, the man needs it stuck to him! That's it!)

                                    i dont think he will give them a battle franky since they always break and fail… but i think iceburg will build the ouro jackson jr for free since he caused them trouble.

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                                      I found it interesting that Spandam was a total dork compared to Lucci.

                                      Originally Posted by Battle Franky

                                      Bad move, bub!

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                                        true dat, lucci is a pimp compared to that red nosed mutha.
                                        do u think he could be luccis dad?

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                                          Pretty neat chapter. Especially seeing CP5.
                                          This looks like it will churn out some bigtime emotions by the end.

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                                            I had a nightmare about CP9! O.o
                                            I dreamt that it really existed. (Wasn't quite as sexy, though…)

                                            Pirate Age (Under Construction)

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                                              Great chapter and nice back info on the CP series. To it seems to be a toss up now on either Franky or Paulie joining the crew (that is if Paulie is still alive 😞 )

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                                                There's some interesting stuff here, most of which has already been commented on. But I have to say I'm still not feeling Franky. These flashbacks haven't really done anything for him as far as I'm concerned, and they seem to be giving much more development to Tom and Iceburg. Even Kohza's flashback appearances had more development than Franky's have had so far.

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                                                  Originally posted by Brave Warrior@ Captain Usopp,Feb 12 2005, 06:55 PM
                                                  There's some interesting stuff here, most of which has already been commented on. But I have to say I'm still not feeling Franky. These flashbacks haven't really done anything for him as far as I'm concerned, and they seem to be giving much more development to Tom and Iceburg. Even Kohza's flashback appearances had more development than Franky's have had so far.
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                                                  Personally, I disagree. I already love Franky. 😄

                                                  Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible. - Frank Zappa

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                                                    Hmmm…. five CP5 agents.... so is CP9 simply a four man cell or is there somebody else out there as well?

                                                    Unless I missed something, Tom built the Gold Jackson without joining Roger's crew, so I'm leaning towards the end result of this arc being that Iceburg and Franky will build the Straw Hats a ship, but Franky will not join the crew.

                                                    What we have seen so far just makes me think more and more that Franky's "accident" was nothing of the sort.

                                                    Complicating things since 2009.

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                                                      Yeah, I figured Franky will do that (how I came to the conclusion that he'll be alone in doing it, I don't know). But…..there's so much to him! Do we really need to learn so much about two different people?

                                                      Originally Posted by Battle Franky

                                                      Bad move, bub!

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                                                        everyone who joined luffy's crew had a dream so who ever has a dream will join luffy's crew (just to put that out)

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                                                          (OMG ! We're back, we're back !)

                                                          I like that train of thought, Ubiq; the one about Tom's part in not joining. I think it'd be kind of cool for the two best shipwrights in the world to join up and make the new ship… touches that ol' romantic in me.

                                                          . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Credo quia absurdum non credere. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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                                                            Hey, it's Carly!

                                                            Well, Merry didn't join either.

                                                            Originally Posted by Battle Franky

                                                            Bad move, bub!

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                                                              Yeah, but Merry didn't have a five chapter flashback either :lol:

                                                              . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Credo quia absurdum non credere. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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                                                                …...Yeah! Go Franky!

                                                                Like omae pointed out, one awesome thing about this chapter is that the boys found out who Robin is. I'd like to see her and Franky meet.

                                                                Originally Posted by Battle Franky

                                                                Bad move, bub!

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                                                                  Spandam is a total jerk… He's even more of a rat than Nezumi was. God I hate treacherous, pathetic, two faced manipulative weakling villains like him. -_-

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                                                                    Nah, I think Nezumi's worse. Nezumi is just spineless. Spandam at least has some motivation.

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                                                                      I liked Spandam. He kind of reminds me of Zenigata… except Zenigata isn't a total bastard.

                                                                      the bigot who thinks being an asshole is actually worth shit

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                                                                        I see a definite trend of "government agents are sneaky, heartless bastards" here.

                                                                        I agree that Franky is, right now, much more likely to build them a ship rather than actually join as a crewmember. Battle Franky 37 will probably be the successor of the Going Merry.

                                                                        Haha! In that sense you could think of the Battle Franky as the child of the Going Merry!

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                                                                          ..Dude, that's an awesome idea.

                                                                          And the Going Merry was named after Merry, as well… Hahaha.

                                                                          the bigot who thinks being an asshole is actually worth shit

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                                                                            Going Franky, perhaps? :blink:

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                                                                              No, I like Battle Franky..

                                                                              the bigot who thinks being an asshole is actually worth shit

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                                                                                Haha. Couldn't you just imagine a scene like this?

                                                                                Going Merry is destroyed (somehow) and with it's "dying breath" it summons the Klabautermann to tell the crew that it passes its will/spirit to the Battle Franky, as a parent passes its blood on to its child . . . .

                                                                                I get the sniffles just thinking about it.

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                                                                                  that sparks an idea… could it be that toms last name is jackson... gold jackson

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                                                                                    Do fishmen even have last names?

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                                                                                      it's interesting to see the irony… like kalei chan pointed out.

                                                                                      "what? it's not like the ship's gonna hurt anyone!"

                                                                                      and couple pages later we see a bunch of battle frankys shooting cannons hurting people.

                                                                                      guess little franky learned something valuable, that it's not the ship that matters, it's the owner of the ship. this is another thing that we should have seen coming, since tom himself said couple chapters back: "there is no such thing as a pirate ship. a ship is a ship, if you put a pirate flag, it becomes a pirate ship. if you put a seagull sign, it becomes a marine ship."

                                                                                      but yeah, i sorta agree. this arc might end up with something along the lines of franky not joining but letting the strawhats take his latest battle franky. tom once built oro jackson that took roger around the grandline and back, so i can see this as something of an inherited will, franky will build a ship that will take the strawhat around the grandline and back. history repeats itself.

                                                                                      i think if franky DOES build another battle franky, it will be something COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from his other battle frankys. notice how his previous battle frankys are all weapons and firearms? oh yeah, he's gonna build something crazily strong but with less focus on cannons and other weapons. and who's more appropriate to use the weaponry other than usopp? ^_^

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                                                                                        Huh? They found out who Robin is? Am I not getting it again because I skipped a lot of drawings? x.X
                                                                                        /me goes to read it again.

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                                                                                          Originally posted by Satsuki@Feb 12 2005, 10:08 PM
                                                                                          Do fishmen even have last names?
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                                                                                          even regular characters don't have last names… can't really say much about last names.

                                                                                          ocean, i think what omae means by franky and iceburg knows about robin is the scene where tom said "now i'd like to tell you about my main concern..." and then the scene was abruptly cut off.

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                                                                                            I think Franky will take a cannonball to the gut trying to help Tom.

                                                                                            Originally Posted by Battle Franky

                                                                                            Bad move, bub!

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                                                                                              On the one hand, Franky now sees how destructive a ship can be.
                                                                                              On the other hand, there's the whole bit Tom said about how a ship is a ship regardless.

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                                                                                                Originally posted by e1n@Feb 12 2005, 09:12 PM
                                                                                                ocean, i think what omae means by franky and iceburg knows about robin is the scene where tom said "now i'd like to tell you about my main concern…" and then the scene was abruptly cut off.
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                                                                                                Hmmm, but we knew that already several chapters back. Maybe not Franky, but we definitely know that Iceburg knows Robin's past… And considering Franky was Tom's apprentice, it's not that big surprise that Franky knows about Robin's past... Or that's what I thought.

                                                                                                By the way, is Iceburg last name or first name? Remember the name plate; only Franky had both first and last name listed? Is it on purpose (they don't have either last / first name) or just Oda being lazy to think up? :x

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                                                                                                  i think he just doesnt have last name. like sanji or nami or usopp.

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                                                                                                    Hmmm, but we knew that already several chapters back. Maybe not Franky, but we definitely know that Iceburg knows Robin's past…

                                                                                                    My point exactly. And why is this important? Well if Franky ends up joining then….

                                                                                                    I guess I just don't like assuming anything until there's some proof for it. We never had any clue that Ice learned of Robin during the same time as Franky.

                                                                                                    No matter where you go, there you are.

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                                                                                                      My friend noticed that "SPANDAM" has "PANDA" in the middle.

                                                                                                      Pandaman's past?!?!

                                                                                                      the bigot who thinks being an asshole is actually worth shit

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                                                                                                        hmm… that's stretching it dude. haha.

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