Would've given him indigestion. That, or Luffy would choke on the tie. xD
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Chapter 429 "Complete Defeat" Discussion
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First of all, by the time the Buster Call comes back the SHs will mostly likely be strong enough to destory it–with the way they develop. Whenever "villians" that were defeated in the past come back in a shounen series, they are usually defeated again in an even worse fashion. But it's okay, the marines still have the Admirals and whoever is just slightly below them, Smoker, Garp, etc.
Second, why are we all so sure that Aokiji let them go? Look at the chapter again, we don't know where the hell Aokiji was when he was talking to that random marine. It's too vague, for all we know the SHs were miles away by then. Aokiji can only pedal that bike so fast...
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Would've given him indigestion. That, or Luffy would choke on the tie. xD
Well, Luffy could've got Sanji to whip up some Hattori Burgers with some pigeon fingers.
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I knew it, Hattori is a sneaky bastard (when a bird wears clothes, ya know he's up to something).
Like not dying.
Anyway. I'm sure we'll get some answers next week. Like Merry's arrival, Aokiji's presence (linked together? I don't even want to go there), the fate of Merry, the possibilites of a super big mechanic joining, etc etc etc. So once again Oda has managed to make me wake up early every Wednesday so I can read 3 lines of spoilers and 5 pages of speculation.
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Might I remind people that Aokiji is on the other side of the Island. He 'possibly' could stop the SH now, but a man at full bike speed is only marginally faster than a normal ship not propelled by franky. Aokiji looks like he just arrived, and if he was observing then he has his own agenda. Its not so hard to justify either way.
My major question would be how did sanji cross the ocean in the first place to get to the third tower? Did he see merry, then sail? Did he just jump? The next chapter is going to be alot of deconstruction, including the merry, which may only be a dream of a dream, a final revenant that is soon to die.
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OMG! Wlel you wanted it and got it, end of the arc! (for the mostpart) plus a sweet Eneru in space cover story! Goooooo One Piece!!!!!
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Yea.. maybe next chapter Ussop wakes up on the Going Merry and we find out it's the day after he lose to Luffy. The truth is none of this happened and Ussop decides to rejoin the SH because of his dream.
Then the SH just let Robin and Sanji go make a life on their own at EL, while they continue for Raftel.
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Heh, Zoro is always the partybreaker.
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Is Ao Kiji really that irresponsible that he would let them escape, knowing fully they could be easily stopped? Maybe he just knows well enough when it's time to call it a day. It could be that he really does want the SH to keep going, but without knowing what his motives are, I think just taking Ao Kiji's words of "this was our defeat" at face value is perfectly logical. They may not have destroyed every vessel and every man aboard, but it was still defeat. Buster Call failed its mission.
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Thank you so much for all of your patience, folks. I am back and badder than bad.
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Yay, good to hear you're back, stephen! =D
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a nice ending to it all tho its a bummer we didnt see any of the VAs do anything except standing around looking pissed off/dumbstruck, or in fidels case probably just standing there with the same creepy grin as ever.
and now i want as many others see Spandam in front of the 5 elder stars trying to explain why he felt it neccesary to blow up Enias lobby along with the entire CP9 unit, and even after he had done that huge sacrifice he still failed miseribly at everything from his 5 year plans to get the plans from Iceburg to capturing Robin its gonna be magical i tell ya xD.
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@Stephen's:
Spandam: What… are you KIDDING me...?!
You're just gonna let them get away...?!!
Blow Nico Robin up with the ship, rather than letting them escape!!!!
That is (not actually) a direct request from Admiral Aokiji!! All ships prepare to fire!!!Well i'll be damned. Spandam's gonna have some 'splainin to do.
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Seeing Enel on the moon gave me a weird thought.
Maybe Enel caused the shift of the moon that may have had an inadvertent effect on why the Aqua Laguna was more violent that time of day during the escape from Water 7. Probably more likely that Dragon appearing with said storm powers.
Also its good to see this arc coming to a close. Things are about to stir from the World Government after this.
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stephen, on your translation of 429
did franky say "cojones"?
spanish word…
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I doubt he actually said cojones, it was just the way he translated it.
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Thanks alot stephen!! Thanks for all the other new chapters too!
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Ah well it looks like the Enies Lobby arc is (almost) over. It lasted for a good 57 chapters, over 1 year, 1 month, 17 days (399 days total)… Excelsior!!
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robins showing a different side of her…. she's got her hand rasied at the end... that's something new.
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Well she's gotten over the childhood trauma, I expect a more fun Robin from here on in, like when she first joined the crew, playing with Luffy Ussop and Chopper.. come to think of it, she's actually as playful as the most immature of the crew rather than a serious personality you'd expect from the eldest crewmember ^^ just another reason to worship Oda's Godess..
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Thank you so much for all of your patience, folks. I am back and badder than bad.
Welcome Back stephen. Nice to have your scripts available again to read.
Thanks.Full Chapter was great. All the major burdens have been relieved. I feel the weight has been lifted. Man, these last few chapters were tense.
Don't really care how Sanji got to the 3rd tower, he's always been the one to do things behind the shadows, and just like how he disabled Ener's ship, he set up the BC ships for a fall, and he was even surprised at how well it worked.
Merry Gou flying off by Franky's Coup de Vent reminded me of the G-8 arc, when Usopp used the Impact Dial :wassat: Still hoping we get an explanation of Merry Gou's arrival, maybe Iceberg is on the ship. I guess the next chapter will answer some of the remaining questions.
Great to see the Team work of the SHP
Definitely enjoyed having some comedy back into the show.Best scene is definitely the Victory shot of Sanji, Zoro & Luffy.
btw, can someone translate this japanese for me? or point me to where it's been translated (if it has been already). These normally indicate the outcome of something. Thanks. -
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btw, can someone translate this japanese for me? or point me to where it's been translated (if it has been already). These normally indicate the outcome of something. Thanks.it means "escape successful!"
Pro-Main Cast Evangelist. In Oda We Trust. TheJackAss Crew. AMC = Anti-main Cast. Luffy x Nami.
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Thank you Battle Franky, Murasaki, and Stephen.
What a great chapter this week.A beautiful escape, Nami navigating, Scarface VA, Aokiji being around, slingshot Luffy, Victory sign, we found out what Sanji did, which was major, coup de vent, Robin being happy, oh yeah and Eneru reaching the moon.
Also thank you Robin for shutting up Spandam with the Clutch cuz I found him really annoying this chapter.
Now for some partying and more fun stuff next chapter.
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nice to see you back stephen.
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This chapter was pretty good. Not so much an actiony chapter, but a feel good chapter (for me anyway). Scarface's expression was great.
Dammit, what does it take to kill Spandam?! He had a bloody elephant land on him! Stupid jerk. At least Robin got revenge!
Go go Eneru! And Ao-kiji! And Sanji Zoro Luffy victory pose destroys all that comes before it. Thanks guys!
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I'm curious, but did they go past the Gates of Justice right before it closed (judging by the fact that I believe Nami stated they plan heading towards there before, and the ships that were pursuing stopped right by the gates, and it'd also lead to a most interesting arc). Or did they just fly over the waterfall?
Franky's Coup De Vent is also pretty powerful (well it's always seemed so), to launch the ship 10 kilometers, of course that was stated by Usopp, who tends to exaggerate a bit.
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w00t! back to W7! Can't wait!
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Franky's Coup De Vent is also pretty powerful (well it's always seemed so), to launch the ship 10 kilometers, of course that was stated by Usopp, who tends to exaggerate a bit.
Usopp was talking about when Merry went to Skyepia
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Ah that explains it, guess I should've read that part more clearly.
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Whirlpools. Lots of whirlpools.
The Gate was closed by Sanji.
Forgot about that. Thanks for clarifying.
And it'd suck for Spandam if they actually had fired upon Robin. Can't build Pluton without them there bird eyes.
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Did Franky officially join now?Me confused =S
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Well, he's with the crew, and I think I'm falling to the Franky-should-join campe (though I initially liked Paulie). But it hasn't been made official in any way yet. He's with the crew right now just as Kokoro, Chimney, and Gonbe are with the crew. They're friends and allies, but not crewmates yet.
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Yeah, I think the odds of Franky not joining the crew are about the same as winning a progressive jackpot at Vegas.
I have developed my own theory of Aokiji. When he let Robin go on Ohara, he told her that he was keeping an eye on her, and suggested that she just try to live a quiet life. I believe that he finally came to the conclusion that Robin did try to follow his advice, but was the betrayee. So instead of pursuing her, he decided to give her a reprive.
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I have no idea what Aokiji is planning, but I don't think he is a complete traitor to the WG, and it's logical for the BC not to chase the SH. In the last couple of chapters, the BC had the SH right where they wanted them (completely surrounded, nowhere to run, outnumbered, outmatched). And yet, the Strawhats were still able to hold their own, survive, and escape. if the BC now chases the SH's to Water 7, they are not only fighting the SH's when the SH's have "home field advantage", but they would be fighting a semi-rested and stronger group, and they would be down 3 ships with the rest of their ships damaged to some extent. And they wouldn't just be fighting 60 pirates anymore, but all of W7. Also, they might be low on ammo to completely destroy W7 after this attack on EL (if they ignore the fact that it would be politcally retarded to BC W7). Also, the marine's comment to chase the SH's seemed very shakey and like the marine was only trying to kiss up to and look good infront of Aokiji:
@stephen's:
Marine: Y… you were here, sir?! I had no idea!!
W-we'll go after them again!!!
This won't be the end of it, I assure you!!!But Aokiji seems smarter than that, and knows when it to cut his loses. That's why he didn't send the BC to chase the SH. But why he didn't freeze the ocean himslef, especially since the waterfall would protect the BC ships from being frozen…..... I have no idea, maybe he's just too lazy?........
"No regrets, that's my motto. Well….. that, and everyone Wang Chung tonight." ~ Luke, Out Cold
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I have no idea what Aokiji is planning, but I don't think he is a complete traitor to the WG, and it's logical for the BC not to chase the SH. In the last couple of chapters, the BC had the SH right where they wanted them (completely surrounded, nowhere to run, outnumbered, outmatched). And yet, the Strawhats were still able to hold their own, survive, and escape. if the BC now chases the SH's to Water 7, they are not only fighting the SH's when the SH's have "home field advantage", but they would be fighting a semi-rested and stronger group, and they would be down 3 ships with the rest of their ships damaged to some extent. And they wouldn't just be fighting 60 pirates anymore, but all of W7. Also, they might be low on ammo to completely destroy W7 after this attack on EL (if they ignore the fact that it would be politcally retarded to BC W7). Also, the marine's comment to chase the SH's seemed very shakey and like the marine was only trying to kiss up to and look good infront of Aokiji:
But Aokiji seems smarter than that, and knows when it to cut his loses. That's why he didn't send the BC to chase the SH. But why he didn't freeze the ocean himslef, especially since the waterfall would protect the BC ships from being frozen…..... I have no idea, maybe he's just too lazy?........
Nah, "cutting there losses" sounds right. The BC was in a poor condition to chase the SHs.
As for Aokiji's plan, it probably involves finding the true justice or something, since he's seen how unjust the World Government can be.
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A big WTF from me @Merry for not falling completely apart during all this. Franky better rebuild it in the next few stories or I will be pissed.-_-
Also Kiji's little appearance at the end was the coolest part of this chapter. Either he is about to become a strong ally to the SH's or their most powerful enemy. Something about the way he accepted defeat made me feel like he was letting them escape for now because he knew he could capture them later at his leisure.
Also, it's a children's comic from Japan.
Why are you comparing it to cultural engravings and burritos.
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I don't think the idea of capturing the Mugiwara's is his priority. If he really wanted to capture them, couldn't he have done it very easily by himself? (He had the opportunity back at the long ring island). He probably has ulterior motives that involved such a mess with Enies Lobby and Buster call (a bit complicated plan if he wanted to just capture a few criminals wouldnt you think?)
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I have no idea what Aokiji is planning, but I don't think he is a complete traitor to the WG, and it's logical for the BC not to chase the SH. In the last couple of chapters, the BC had the SH right where they wanted them (completely surrounded, nowhere to run, outnumbered, outmatched). And yet, the Strawhats were still able to hold their own, survive, and escape. if the BC now chases the SH's to Water 7, they are not only fighting the SH's when the SH's have "home field advantage", but they would be fighting a semi-rested and stronger group, and they would be down 3 ships with the rest of their ships damaged to some extent. And they wouldn't just be fighting 60 pirates anymore, but all of W7. Also, they might be low on ammo to completely destroy W7 after this attack on EL (if they ignore the fact that it would be politcally retarded to BC W7). Also, the marine's comment to chase the SH's seemed very shakey and like the marine was only trying to kiss up to and look good infront of Aokiji:
But Aokiji seems smarter than that, and knows when it to cut his loses. That's why he didn't send the BC to chase the SH. But why he didn't freeze the ocean himslef, especially since the waterfall would protect the BC ships from being frozen…..... I have no idea, maybe he's just too lazy?........
A Shichibukai place is void, perhaps Ao Kiji wants to propose Luffy as Crocodile replacement.
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Aww finally I could get download the file. My IE was having problems with download speed.
But anyway… Yeah, it was a great chapter! Thanks BF.
Spandam looked like Quasimodo
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Thank you so much for all of your patience, folks. I am back and badder than bad.
welcome back dude.
I recommend: Peerless Martial God, Renegade Immortal, Gourmet of Another World, Trash of the Counts Family and The Great Ruler
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It's pretty obvious what Ao Kiji wants to do with the Mugiwara.
Trouble begats trouble. When you get someone with an infamous reputation, other infamous people persue them.
So, get them all together, let them fight it out, and when they're all beat up and shitfaced, you swoop in and take the survivors out.
The Romans used to do it all the time. Many of the German Barbarian Tribes didn't exactly get along. Sometimes there'd be a dispute, and they'd fight each other. The Romans would wait until they had finished their battle and were exhausted, then send the legions in, bing-bang-boom, and they'd win the battle. Pretty simple.
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what's the use if you have to sacrifice your secret services and strongolds first?
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Ever hear of "The Ends Justifies the Means?"
Buildings can be rebuilt. Agents can be retrained. What can't be given twice is opportunity.
That said, sacrifices have to be made sometime for the greater good. Besides, most important people survived. The only one that died was Spandam (I hope). Ships can be rebuilt, agents can be retrained. The important thing to remember is that in creating a scapegoat, you have to utilize everything in your disposal.
It works, though.
I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.
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@Fire Fist:
Besides, most important people survived.
I bet the pirates would survive as well, except if ao kiji somehow managed to kill them in a flashback^^
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Don't be smug. People do die outside of a flashback. Most of the priests in Skypeia did. Satori, Hotori, Kotori, and Ohm are probably still alive, but if Yama and the guy Wiper hit with the Reject dial are, I'll eat my hat.
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i'm so smug i don't even care for this argument.
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Ok. I have mixed feelings here.
On the one hand, this ending had a lot of drama to it, was very wel drawn, and is expertly put together.
On the other hand, Usopp never got his moment. Ever. The arc is fucking over. And now I'll bet his self esteem problem that's been developing for THREE FUCKING ARCS will have vanished for no believable reason.
Goddamn you oda -_-
That's exactly how I feel.
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Thank you so much for all of your patience, folks. I am back and badder than bad.
Yayyy!! I've been looking forward to your return!
I hope we get to see some big WG conference on either luffy or just priates in general soon. i've thought their way of dealing with pirates was always a little unorganized.
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WARNING (Explicit Dialog)!!
Maybe he'll try to be like Buu and try to kill everyone from the "Fairy Vearth"