Donflamingo doesn't use mind control…... his devil fruit ability is use using his hand, like a puppeteer....... and during the meeting, his hand was like that...and when he was in Jaya, his hand was also like that........ and look at how a real puppeteer manipulate a puppet? same hand thingy, except the middle finger, the thumb and the pinky, which I think is like the puppet cross the connects the strings/or something .......
It's nitpicking really, we don't know how his power works so we can lazily just assume that's a "type" of mindcontrol–or just controling in general.
I like your idea. And I personally like the evidence and idea.
klys: nice find, the posture of hands is really quite similiar.
onemoment: you can "lazily" assume whatever you want, it only goes to show that you lazily don´t care about the shown (drawn) facts. Mindcontrol is out of question cause the controled ones show shock and horror and still argue as themselves.
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Well, this topic seems to be in response to all the people calling Don's powers "mind control" lately, and while it's clearly puppet-like powers, I'm just saying it's not a crime to call it "like mind control" since we don't know how it works yet. He controls at least.
In fact, I imagine that everyone here has reached the same conclusion–Don controls people like puppets. I just find "mind control" easier to type then "puppeteering."
I'm more interested in how the Strawhats are gonna deal with Donflamingo. Something tells me they have to wear some cheap Insert Generic Device to resist his pupeteering powers. But I'm most likely wrong as Oda will probably come up with something far more clever.
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klys: nice find, the posture of hands is really quite similiar.
it's klJs….sorry for being fussy, but it's shortform for my actual name....
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I'm more interested in how the Strawhats are gonna deal with Donflamingo. Something tells me they have to wear some cheap Insert Generic Device to resist his pupeteering powers. But I'm most likely wrong as Oda will probably come up with something far more clever.
If we're correct in assuming that Donflamingo will be the villian of his own arc…then I think that Luffy will use his Gear 3 powers to escape. He's expand to get out of Donflamingo's alleged "strings."
If we're correct in assuming that Donflamingo will be the villian of his own arc…then I think that Luffy will use his Gear 3 powers to escape. He's expand to get out of Donflamingo's alleged "strings."
Not a bad theory, I was thinking that they'd be able to see is "strings" somehow and cut them. I'm anxious to see how they go about defeating him, definitely will be interesting.
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I imagine Luffy being control to fight his own crew….. just like in the TV special 2....... and when one of this crew member gets totally owned by himself, he might go berserk and totally "Disconnect" from Don....... Gear 2 might be too fast for Don...... if Don doesn't control Luffy first......
I think( and I wish that it won't be like that) that they will overcome him by saying: I can´t do that to my friend. Our friendship is stronger than your ability bla bla bla.
Or maybe he is really a puppeteer and doesn´t have a ability. He is just using invincible strings.
It may take a team effort to beat Doflamingo assuming he can control anybody he sees. A few strawhats could distract him will the others attack from his blind spot.
Can Doflamingo make a DF user under his control use their ability? If he can, he gonna be one hell of an opponent.
it's klJs….sorry for being fussy, but it's shortform for my actual name....
my apology kljs, won´t happen again! 
hes only so far shown control over people's arms correct?
hes only so far shown control over people's arms correct?
Don´t think so: If he only controlled my arms he could never get me to stab a friend, I´d just go two steps back.
Maybe Luffy is so rubbery that DonFlamingo slips his pupeteering of him and that's how Luffy can beat him? Stupid theory…
I remember reading a theory long ago that reall made sense, and I really liked it.
The person stated that Donflimingo could control other people's bones. Hence the marked out skull, ribs, and legs, for their flag meaning that other people couldnt control their actions. He would use his fingers to control the person's bones. That was it, basically summed up in a nutshell, but it was a really good theory.
Yeah, I like the bone theory better than the mind control or whatever.
That would explain alot. maybe he has some bone controling fruit…
I always had the idea that he either controlled bone or just hands, looking through the chapters, I can't remember seeing him control their whole body. If it was the latter then I predict a rather interesting Doflamingo/Robin fight.
How would he control bones? Would he be a bone logia or something? Interesting I guess.
Hey, here's something. Maybe Donflamingo is actually the Wind Loiga user. He could control the air around people to control them. It'd sure be surprising, since most people have guess that Dragon will get that fruit.
I'm more interested in how the Strawhats are gonna deal with Donflamingo. Something tells me they have to wear some cheap Insert Generic Device to resist his pupeteering powers. But I'm most likely wrong as Oda will probably come up with something far more clever.
You know what would be interesting with DoFlamingo as the main villain of his arc? Instead of having the rest of the Strawhat crew fight DoFla's underlings while Luffy takes care of the limbs controlling tranny, it'd be a nice change to see the whole crew controlled by DoFla who'd make them fight against eachothers.
And of course at the end friendship prevails yadda yadda the usual crap. If he does use invisible strings instead of mind control that may not be possible, but that's something I'd like to see.
Forget the "imaginative" ideas. Oda just proved wrong the vulcanization theory about Gear 2, which was the one that made the most sense at that time when someone broght it up.
A Puppet-puppet DF is the most plausible theory right now with the little information about DoFlamingo we've got. Easy and simple, the Oda way.
I can't forget the "imaginative" ideas, it's what One Piece is about. Oda tends to think outside the box, kinda Kojima esque. To think of an absolutely normal theory about DF abilites is unheard of, afterall, when a sword can "eat" a fruit, anything is possible.
The bone theory sounds nice but i would just crush everyones bones to pieces if i had that DF power -.-… The name of his power might be hina hina no mi(doll doll fruit - hina aint really the doll or puppet that goes here but the names are usually 4 letters in romanji so it might be more simple this way than ningyoo no mi :p...) and i havent seen him controlling more than 1 guy at the same time, this might be just be for fun to see the other guy fight for his life or a condition for his power that he cant control more than 1 guy... but that wouldnt explain his humongus ex-bounty and the rank of Shichibukai... or something 
Not a bad theory, I was thinking that they'd be able to see is "strings" somehow and cut them. I'm anxious to see how they go about defeating him, definitely will be interesting.
Theorically, if Luffy got more strength than Don Flamingo, the puppet powers wouldn't work. So if they meet in a "very long time", perhaps we'll see another Luffy/Bellamy short figth 
Hey, how about this? Donflmaingo uses his powers to control someone very, very powerful. Maybe he could appear in the fabled "Elbaf arc."
http://apforums.net/showpost.php?p=188507&postcount=25
hone hone no mi 
No it wasn't you who I was refering too. The person gave examples and pictures and such. I think it was either octogon or ubig.
_ Originally Posted by mr.allsunday
Nice job jumping on the bandwagon there Aethos, I can only wish I was as cool as you_
I posted about this a while ago, but I didn't use any diagrams.
http://apforums.net/showthread.php?t=2756
It made sense to me, since people would resist, so they must still have control of their muscles to some degree… maybe they were trying to resist their bones being manipulated. I initially thought logia, but paramecia would work too.
Damn, I came out of hiding too early! I was going to wait until Kmann made another appearance in the manga. :happy:
Huh. Well, if he can control bones, then he's going to be someone that only Luffy can beat, that's for sure.
Luffy: Hey, MY bones are made of rubber.
Donflamingo: You're got to be ****in' kidding me.
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/3174/trygpuppeteercx8.jpg
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/376/puppeteerpv0.png
Donflamingo doesn't use mind control…... his devil fruit ability is use using his hand, like a puppeteer....... and during the meeting, his hand was like that...and when he was in Jaya, his hand was also like that........ and look at how a real puppeteer manipulate a puppet? same hand thingy, except the middle finger, the thumb and the pinky, which I think is like the puppet cross the connects the strings/or something .......
I had the same thought as you did. When I saw his hands in the anime for the first time moving like they were it made me think of the marionettes.
Donflamingo's hands made me think that he would have a marionette type devil fruit.
http://www.hansjoergwagner.de/images/dg-hs-marionette-250.jpg
I put it down in the possible devil fruits thread about six months ago.
its obv not mind control
the marine official he made to fight was completely sane mentally, he just couldn't control his body
I'm hoping when his power is explained, it will be more concrete and less overpowered than "he can control bodies."
Strings like in Flame of Recca would be kind of cool. Maybe a string paramecium.
I'm with Carter, no overpowerdness (I know it's not a word), it would throught One Piece's balance off.
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Well, like many OP powers, it should at last seem overpowered at first. No actually, it will most likely look overpowered until someone finds a weakness.
One wonders if Doflamingo can hold his own hand-to-hand, if not, once the Strawhats figure out his trick, It'll only take a few hits to put em down. But I'm sure he has something else going for him tho.
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One wonders if Doflamingo can hold his own hand-to-hand, if not, once the Strawhats figure out his trick, It'll only take a few hits to put em down. But I'm sure he has something else going for him tho.
Surely. I mean, a lot of weak looking Luffy opponents have had good stamina in the past (minus. Mr. 3). I'm sure that like everyone in OP, Don will have "all the stamina he needs."
http://apforums.net/showpost.php?p=188507&postcount=25
hone hone no mi
That somehow reminds me of Naruto.Wasn't there a guy who can control bones. Don't remember his name was something like kimimaro.
I honestly think he's a string or thread paramecian atm, and the threads are just so fine that they are almost invisible to the naked eye
I mean, Califa can "clean" your strength off you with a soap fruit, I don't find it all that hard to believe that Don's threads would be so strong that he could control your movement with them.
We've seen plenty of high powered logias, and we just got through seeing some zoans (even though I think Bear being anything but a bear Zoan considering his outfit with the bear ears and the bear prints and name would be unexpected - but then again, this is Oda), so it'd be nice to see a highly ranked user of the overlooked branch of devil fruit.
That somehow reminds me of Naruto.Wasn't there a guy who can control bones. Don't remember his name was something like kimimaro.
Donflam is also possible to have the Kage Kage fruit >.>
He uses the opponents shadow to control his enemy and his hands are just the devices to move them.
I have the most unrelenting urge to shout "DUUUUHHH" at this theory because I thought its hypothesis was obvious from the moment Doflamingo was introduced. I haven't frequented Arlong Park for THAT long of a time so I don't know if it was discussed in the particular chapter discussion where we see Doflamingo control the 2 Vice Admirals (or whatever they're ranks were), but SURELY SOMEONE has mentioned his puppeting powers.
In other words, DUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHH
EDIT: Hell even I've said this before and I'm SUUUUUUURE I'm not the first
I'm convinced that is more like Don Flamingo Quixote's fruit. The ability control people like puppets, not necessarily with invisible strings, but you get my drift right?
PS: This may sound a lot like a technique in Naruto, but in Oda's defence, One is is 1 million times better than Naruto.
Link to post: http://www.apforums.net/showpost.php?p=249068&postcount=458
Yeah, it's obvious. This thread seems to have been made to correct people calling his powers "mind control" and then turned into theories about his powers.
Yeah, it's obvious. This thread seems to have been made to correct people calling his powers "mind control" and then turned into theories about his powers.
yup, the thread is for all that…..... actually..... 
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Luffy will beat DeFlamingo by wrapping tin foil around his head.
yeah right….. Don doesn't need to control Luffy's head...... he can just control Luffy's movements... just like the Vice Admirals during the meeting....
Yep, it's not mind control if the victim is still self-aware.
one thing that might happen is that Luffy's rubber body might be harder to control…...
Mizu Mizu no Mi, he can control water (in this case, blood inside the human body)
But we'll see what his power is soon
I am liking the idea of a Puppet Puppet no mi…
