Ah damn it's over. :sad:
(20 freakin characters)
Ah damn it's over. :sad:
(20 freakin characters)
Awesome chapter.
Usopp's pep-talk got Luffy up, and Gomu Gomu no Jet Gatling Gun ftw.
Anyone notice that Robin's fighting "The Question" in one panel? Seriously, the guy has no face. XD
And on page 3 Zoro appears to be fighting the doctor from Cocoyashi. What's up with that?
Still no sign of Paulie or the Franky Family. I hope The Franky Family's dead and Paulie's still alive. I kinda have a soft spot for anyone who looks like Cid from FF7.
Apparently Robin's fear of Buster Call magically disappeared when Franky squashed Spandam like the cockroach that he is, so I don't think the "heal Robin's mental scars!!!" theory holds much water anymore.
I wasn't thinking so much in terms of "healing her scars", I think they have been healed already. Just that it seems like it was almost set up that the Strawhats would defeat it…but I have to admit that escaping it, at this point, is impressive as well. I don't think they'll be able to defeat all those admirals. They haven't even had to chance to be properly identified yet. It may be that this force will become a continuing threat for a while. The anime opening seems to be saying that, but it's not like that's necessarily a reliable way to tell.
I also have to say I was in awe of how badass and almost scary Luffy was in this chapter. I think this was the most serious fight he's ever had. Crocodile was pretty intense too, but this one really surpassed it. Luffy really showed himself to ba a man to feared if you threaten the ones he loves enough. I hope the animated version brings it to life as well as Croc/Luffy. I enjoyed it more than the manga version.
Edit: Verbatim's sig, yay! Oh wait, you need someone to update it for you still?
Ah damn it's over. :sad:
(20 freakin characters)
Update your signature v.! Maybe one gigantic "BUSTER CALLE'D" or something.
CP9 wasn't "Buster Call'd" though…they were Mugiwara Busted.
One more thing...gotta say I love the chapter title, I think it's one of my favorites. XD
I already said Chopper and Sanji lack ranged attacks, but I disagree on "none of the other strawhats [hitting] spandam". Luffy, Zoro, and Nami are all likely capable of hitting from that distance, but Luffy is probably the only one who could hit accurately, and Usopp was the only one who could fire the keys.
Huh? No they couldn't! Did you see that distance? The whole point of that seen was that Ussop was sniping at an inhuman distance.
Zoro's flying blade has only travels a few feet in the past. I think it would most likely dissolve or become ineffective before then. Remember in Skypiea, the flying blades dissapeared seconds after hitting their target.
Nami only really have the cyclone tempo for range, and hell who couldn't see that coming? Plus, it'd be impratical to throw a boomerage-like weapon over tehre and catch it.
Now Luffy, maybe he actually could. But, he needs to stretch the appropriate distance to reach that distance. Really, he could only hit one or two people at a time. It'd be slow.
And come to think of it, who cares if someone else could do it? Ussop did it and he was the only one who could get there.
I mean, if someone saved you from a burning building, would you go "Whatever, someone else could have done it."
Firing the keys is also likely something only capable with Kabuto, so such an act says more about Usopp's weapon than himself.
Dude, he built Kabuto! Even if what you're saying is true, Ussop built the weapons that supposedly did all the work for him. If Kabuto is so great then Ussop should get some credit just for building the damn thing.
And with that in mind, who do you think is aiming the damn thing? If he couldn't aim then how did those keys just happen to land a few feet away from Franky? That's damn lucky.
And honestly, what sniper gets this kind of treatment? Even with the best weapons, they always get credit for the kills. Guns don't kill people, people kill people.
Even if Ussops done nothing noteworthy, at least give him credit for the things he's done!
Well, my opinions:
Like said before, Buster Call will be probably disabled, not utterly defeated, so that the Strawhats can escape. I think Sanji will play a major role in this.
How will Luffy escape now? He's away from the others, and lies down in a convenient spot that the ships can attack until there's only sea there. Will he escape by his own means or will someone save him? I think this is going to be Usopp's next action: take Luffy away from that place.
Like Robin said: this is not like in Ohara. She is fighting back and has friends at her side. No need to destroy the Buster Call so that she can e "free".
Probably the Franky Family is alive, and Paulie will contact the Strawhats when they are at the sea, so that Franky learns that his family is alive.
The Vice-Admirals will either be defeated or they'll be hunting the SH's for some time, leading to the next mini-arc (mini as in the Davy Back Fight or Jaya) before the next major arc begins.
And above all else: Usopp will still have his big moment (sniping Spandam was just the beginning)
Yeah Terek, on that I have to agree. It´s even more painfull to see that she get´s so "lucky" all the time. Nami and Usopp are definitly on the same league, but Nami also got more oportunities to shine as Navigator, than Usopp as a sniper, wich is their real function. If Usopp ever fail as sniper, then I´ll have to really hate him, because noone should fail on his field without a GODDAM good reason.
For example, a good reason for Ruffy failing as a captain (fighter # 1 in the crew) = Aokiji
A good reason for Zoro failing as a swordsman = Mihawk
I believe that when the time asks, every SH will give their lifes to complete a task, and will not give up untill it´s done or he is flat on the ground. Usopp hasn´t had this moment as a Sniper yet, but I really hope he does.
I wasn't thinking so much in terms of "healing her scars", I think they have been healed already. Just that it seems like it was almost set up that the Strawhats would defeat it…but I have to admit that escaping it, at this point, is impressive as well. I don't think they'll be able to defeat all those admirals. They haven't even had to chance to be properly identified yet. It may be that this force will become a continuing threat for a while. The anime opening seems to be saying that, but it's not like that's necessarily a reliable way to tell.
Am I the only one who think it'd just be too much if the Strawhats defeated the Buster Call? I already find the fact they can hold their own again so many HQ level Captains slightly farfetched (especially Nami who's apparently taking them down by the dozen), but there's still the VAs and the huge ships blocking their escape way. Vice Admirals losing to the Strawhats would feel especially corny as it would either mean:
-The VAs are pussies
or
-The Strawhats are fucking monsters
and wouldn't make for a satisfying ending IMO. Escape seems to be the most realistic outcome.
Gotta agree, this is pretty much the same pointless argument going on since how long now?
… I think they'll probably all be too busy trying to escape/fight buster call first.
That's the big question now...will they fight it or escape it? I remember Ubiq saying that he didn't think Buster Call would be defeated in this arc yet, since it's supposed to be the government's trump card or whatever...but then other people say that if they don't beat buster call, then they fail to beat Robin's biggest fear as revealed in this arc....
I´m not so much concerned about Robins fears, but I can´t really see any chance of escape if they do not take down the complete bustercall beforehand - and that will be the real climax of the arc.
Come to think of it, anyone think that Sanji's little "role" speech with Ussop might be foreshadowing by whatever he does next? That is, maybe Sanji will give Ussop an opportunity to do something useful.
He actually succeeds in every little tasks (which are supposed to be his "shining moments") and falls flat on his face when facing a really serious threat. Well, that actually became true after he beat Chuu, and said things like "don't underestimate me, when I want I can" or some stuff like that. Yeah, pretty misleading.
So following your logics, Usopp should be a dark and bitter character? Doesn't seem that way to me, FAILED CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT RIGHT THURR
Well, there was no failure in his development, but defnitly there was bitterness and darkness. Just look back at the real reason behind his fight with Ruffy. And every little task does include the fights.
Am I the only one who think it'd just be too much if the Strawhats defeated the Buster Call?
No, I agree… I guess I should make a distinction between "stopping" the force enough for them to escape, or just hightailing it without anymore fighting somehow. I'm thinking that they'll probably just find a way to put a big enough dent in the ships so that they can escape. Like I said, I just can't picture they defeating the Admirals now, especially after everything they've already done. We don't even know who the Admirals are yet. Defeating nameless faces is no fun.
at the spoiler i was really excited about this whole usopp thing despite the disrespect (the spoiler portrayed) but in reality with the addition of usopp noise i'm really disappointed. sogeking wouldn't use usopp noise so why must usopp i thought sogeking was about usopp evolving, this isn't evolution.
oops just realised there was a subject change :o(
CP9 wasn't "Buster Call'd" though…they were Mugiwara Busted.
No, Buster Call annihilated Enies Lobby, including the Tower of Justice Administration where four CP9 bodies lay. Aside from Lucci, I'm assuming everyone else was abandoned by the Marines and were covered by rubble in the wake of the BC.
great chapter. i'm glad [and figured] that luffy didn't really hit lucci from behind. =) oda never fails me!
at the spoiler i was really excited about this whole usopp thing despite the disrespect (the spoiler portrayed) but in reality with the addition of usopp noise i'm really disappointed. sogeking wouldn't use usopp noise so why must usopp i thought sogeking was about usopp evolving, this isn't evolution.
You are giving too much attention to a single pannel that is just comic relief and has no impact to the story… It has nothing to do with Usopp's development.
I must agree that Usopp's development is not complete, but this Usopp noise thing you are all talking about is not part of it. It is just one pannel, for god's sake. We will have more of Usopp in the next chapters. Kabuto's secret has not been revealed yet, remember?
No, Buster Call annihilated Enies Lobby, including the Tower of Justice Administration where four CP9 bodies lay. Aside from Lucci, I'm assuming everyone else was abandoned by the Marines and were covered by rummble in the wake of the BC.
That doesn't matter so much as the fact that they were individually defeated by members of the strawhats.
Update your signature v.! Maybe one gigantic "BUSTER CALLE'D" or something.
You guys think this is okay? I was thinking of something better but I just don't have the time…
Am I the only one who think it'd just be too much if the Strawhats defeated the Buster Call? I already find the fact they can hold their own again so many HQ level Captains slightly farfetched (especially Nami who's apparently taking them down by the dozen), but there's still the VAs and the huge ships blocking their escape way.
For the momentary melee the enemy force consists of captains and lieutenants, that means the majority of their enemies should be the likes of Tashigi (lower ranks normally dominate in numbers). That makes it perhaps a bit easier to swallow than defeating 200 smoker types. But the problem of the fleet remains… I started some speculating about this in another thread just before the new chapter cause I´m too very hot to see how Oda will get out of this pinch.
That doesn't matter so much as the fact that they were individually defeated by members of the strawhats.
That's like saying it doesn't matter that Vegeta killed Recoome because Goku beat him up first.
Wow what a great chapter. I loved usopp's words "Lets go back together" meaning he wants to go back on the crew.
Jet gatling gun was awesome. Such a moving moment. I had the crocodile defeat bgm music in my head when he was getting defeated. Man what a great arc this was.
Am I the only one who think it'd just be too much if the Strawhats defeated the Buster Call?
Definitly not. The main reason behind my dislike towards this chapter was that it indicates that the SH may really defeat the BC. That´s absurd, the BC was a weapon that in the past had guys like Aokiji and Kizaru comanding, even at 1/10 of that past foce it should still be able to take care of a pirate crew like the SH (in my mind BC should´ve been capable of causing trouble even to guys like White Beard). Why all this build up for BC if it´s to end like this? If I see a VA ship destroyed I´ll really be upset. Last chapter showed BC as a threat, but right now it´s just downgraded and I hope this changes soon enough.
You are giving too much attention to a single pannel that is just comic relief and has no impact to the story… It has nothing to do with Usopp's development.
I must agree that Usopp's development is not complete, but this Usopp noise thing you are all talking about is not part of it. It is just one pannel, for god's sake. We will have more of Usopp in the next chapters. Kabuto's secret has not been revealed yet, remember?
in regards to Kabuto, i pretty much feel the same as Sanji and Zoro, Kabuto's secret is it's weilder, nothing else matters.
That's like saying it doesn't matter that Vegeta killed Recoome because Goku beat him up first.
But as Blueno probably saved their backsides using his door door powers it doesn't really matter.
You guys think this is okay? I was thinking of something better but I just don't have the time…
Yeah, that's fine.
That's like saying it doesn't matter that Vegeta killed Recoome because Goku beat him up first.
I've never watched DBZ so I have no idea what you're talking about. I can almost guarrantee you that CP9 members aren't actually dead under the rubble. That's so un-One Piece like.
Am I the only one who think it'd just be too much if the Strawhats defeated the Buster Call? I already find the fact they can hold their own again so many HQ level Captains slightly farfetched (especially Nami who's apparently taking them down by the dozen), but there's still the VAs and the huge ships blocking their escape way. Vice Admirals losing to the Strawhats would feel especially corny as it would either mean:
-The VAs are pussies
or
-The Strawhats are fucking monsters
and wouldn't make for a satisfying ending IMO. Escape seems to be the most realistic outcome.
Not really. First of all, calling those captains "captains" is just a fickle title given to these no-name characters to make them seem like a bigger threat. Without calling them captains, would anyone questions why the SHs are winning?
That and, we've only seen two accurate captains, Hina and T-Bone. T-Bone was OHKO'd and Hina's never been seen fight yet. Really, being a captain might not mean anything.
For the Buster Call, I think they're going to beat it, simpy because its a threat of this arc. It's not like beating this thing would mean that the SHs will never have a threat again. How much development did the BC get? A flashback, a few guys going "no one can defeat that!" and done. The next big threat will get the same development. Plus, I don't see how they can go back to WAter 7 or get a new ship with the BC after them.
Now the VAs…are in the same boat as the captains, no name characters. But I submit this idea to you, are all the VAs the same? We really should stop saying "the VAs" and be more like "these 5 VAs" cause he have no reason to think that all the VAs are alike either. Or that beating them will mean they can take the Admirals now. Does beating Mr.1 mean that Zoro can take Crocodile?
On a related note, I'm actually insulted to hear that people think the VAs will be as strong as Saul. Really, is Saul so common that maybe 20 guys in the marines have the same strength as him? Robin would be hurt.:sad: People within the same field and rank rarely have the same abilities. In Robin's flashback Saul and Aokiji are represented as extraordinary men.
Sadly, I'm going back to my theory that these guys are just unextraordinary VAs. I mean, no one in one peace so far has been "I have this title so I'm strong!" (hear me out, I get the irony) They get development and examples of there strength thing.
Bellamy thought he was tough cause of his bounty, and Luffy OHKO'd him. What? It was raised before him? Then how did he beat Mr. 42 mill bounty Mr.3 beforehand? And come to think of it, aren't crews like the SHs and the Blackbeard crew realtively low key priates before now?
I just don't think titles are enough. Until these VAs freakin' move, we have no idea what their abilities are. Right now, they seem to like commanding their ship to shoot stuff.
and wouldn't make for a satisfying ending IMO. Escape seems to be the most realistic outcome.
Yes, that sounds a lot nicer. Having the SH's chased by the BC seems like a nice way to kick off the next arc.
EDIT: I'm not being sarcastic…
Yeah, that's fine.
I've never watched DBZ so I have no idea what you're talking about. I can almost guarrantee you that CP9 members aren't actually dead under the rubble. That's so un-One Piece like.
wow, your the first person i know who havent saw DBZ but back to the point, i think yall both are right i na sense, yes they was beat by the SH but they got ownt by the marines with the buster call
I win, I win!! :D
Right. Because Sanji's legs are the one's that win the fights, not him. And of course Zoro's katana are what win the fight, not him. And chopper beating a priest says more about the rumble balls than him. :getlost:
KAKOI!!!! This chapter ruled. On so many levels. Lucci is finally down celebrate!
@Octogon:
Right. Because Sanji's legs are the one's that win the fights, not him.
Well, he'd have a hard time winning a fight without any legs.
@Bad-Beat:
Well, he'd have a hard time winning a fight without any legs.
Obviously…...............
This just made my freakin' week! First, the Luffy/Lucci conflict has ended in a spectacular way, second, the return Usopp Noise! Fan-freaking-tastic!
Nice chapter with a lot of things happening which makes me crave for the next chapter. Good to see usopp's face again
It's the moment we've all been waiting for! Lucci went down with a freaking bang, man! I still wonder if Usopp and Luffy will make up. And next chapter, we'll probably find out what happened to Sanji.
The chapter was nice, didn't expect to like it from reading the spoilers but it was much better than I expected. Not that I thought the turn of events was great (or rather the re-hashing of fight conslusions, including reclycing from generic shounen formula not just past Luffy fights).
Nice way to end a fight with someone like Lucci. I figure since Gear was introduced this same arc, Luffy won't bust out any high level moves just yet. I mean it's not like he brought out GG Storm in one of his first big fights. Jet Gatling should suffice for now, we'll probably see a Jet Storm in the arc after the next one or something.
I just wonder where Sanji is, I think he's figuring out a way to slow down the Buster Call. I'm in agreement that the Buster Call shouldn't be defeated right now. I'll be happy if they make an escape. How they'll do that exactly, I have no idea.
UHUUUU!!!! THE FIGHT ENDED!!! THE FIGHT ENDED!!!! (i really hope)
I like the idea of having weak fighting characters in the crew. They are material for another kind of plot instead the straight foward fighting better.
I think that if Ussop start winning fights, been stronger in melee or any other thing, we would lose all the ûber comic reliefs that his weak power can give us.
So people. Let Ussop be a mop and enjoy him!
Mmm, sweet chapter. I loved that Jet Gattling.
stays out of Usopp / Buster Call / other debates
Ah damn it's over. :sad:
(20 freakin characters)
I had predicated that you would put a big "pwned" print on your sig after this was over
Yes it over, before the curtains closes, let say this
FAREWALL BRAINLESS JUSTICE ZOMBIES
Chapter 323-427
We saw them as undercovers
Kaku as an shipwight
Lucchi as an shipwight
Califa as an secetary
Blueno as an bartender
We see Kaku, Lucchi, along with other shipwight knocking down Mikazukai
Kaku inspect the Going Marry
Lucchi caught Pauile
Califa hot-tempered
We see an disgisted Bluneo whispering "CP9" to Robin
We see Lucchi and Kaku attack Luffy
We see Lucchi and Kaku guarding Iceburg
We see Bluneo talking with Franky
We saw them in strange costums
We saw them attacking the Galley-La HQ
We saw them torture Iceburg
We saw them in the warehouse
We see Franky's Flashback
We meet Spandam
We see Spandam the leader of CP9
We follow them in the Sea Train
We followed them to Enies Lobby
We meet 3 more CP9
We saw Kaku and Califa ate the DF
Bluneo was frist down: defeated by Luffy with Jet Boozka
Fukuro was defeated by Franky with Coup de Vent
Kumadori was defeated by Monster Chopper
Califa was defeated by Nami with her clima tect
Jabura was defeated by Sanji with a devil kick
Kaku was defeated by Zoro with an 9 sword-style
Spandam nearly got away with Robin, delayed by Sogeking and freed by Franky. Franky smashed Spandam with Funkfleed.
Luffy defeated Lucchi with an Gomu Gomu no Jet Gating Gun
The CP9 came to a crashing end, so long CP9ers, it's nice knowing you.
Hmmmm….I just can't help but wonder. Does anyone else think that maybe Sanji is off doing something to ensure that he gets a bounty this time?
I couldn't say that that might involve doing (other than running up to a VA, saying "Hi, I'm Sanji!", and booting him in the crotch), but he might be trying to pull off one of his tactically brilliant moments while making damn sure that someone SEES him this time.
On the other hand, it would be damned funny if every other Strawhat got a bounty but him. Win-win for us, I guess.
Nice chapter with a lot of things happening which makes me crave for the next chapter. Good to see usopp's face again
Off topic but I like your avatar and sig.
I'm curious myself, what does Sanji know that no ones else knows? He's never been to Enies Lobby before, and spent much of his time here stuck in soap. However, his was there when the GAtes of Justice opened. So I think that Sanji will do something related to his moment before the fight with Jyabura.
Or, we'll get a flashback to Sanji walking around Enies Lobby during some other point and time, maybe while he was running to Zoro? I forget how long it took.
On the other hand, just closing the gates wouldn't make sense…maybe he'll knock it down? If he kicked the areas that hold it up, it might fall. Then again, would that really help the situation so much?
We'll just wait and see....
@Bad-Beat:
Is there something about Usopp that I'm missing here? Because every week the chapter discussions turn into a debate about Usopp… o well. I bet Hattori is going to be contemplating revenge for his master now, he'll go off and train, maybe eat a DF then come back in a few months time and kick SH ass!
There just seems to be strong debate about him compared to every other character for a few peculiar reason(s). I am not going to entertain those reasons because I am not involved in any of those discussions, but it seems there are biases one way or another about that particular character. I just stay out of it myself
I like how it shows a few frames of Jet Gatling where you see Luffy's fist smashing into Lucci, and the look of surprise on his face.
I think that should also silence the people who STILL insist that Luffy's Gear Second Jet attacks are air projectiles :P
BTW, kind of off-topic (and late), but why is the romanized name for ブルーノ Blueno? Bruno makes much more sense… it's a stereotypical tough guy name used in cartoons and stories for ages. Blueno is a goofy made-up spelling, and looks like it should be pronounced "blue eh no".
Am I the only one who think it'd just be too much if the Strawhats defeated the Buster Call? I already find the fact they can hold their own again so many HQ level Captains slightly farfetched (especially Nami who's apparently taking them down by the dozen), but there's still the VAs and the huge ships blocking their escape way. Vice Admirals losing to the Strawhats would feel especially corny as it would either mean:
-The VAs are pussies
or
-The Strawhats are fucking monsters
and wouldn't make for a satisfying ending IMO. Escape seems to be the most realistic outcome.
As much as you hate the idea of the BC being defeated, I am leaning towards Oda going in that direction. It's probably going to take about 3 to 4 chapters to get a good idea of what's going to happen though. I don't mind either outcome (running away or defeating the BC), as long as, it's done right.
Man I can't wait for this chapter to get animated, it's going to make some great amv's.