Also Zoro would have to get matching elephant-shoes…
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Zoro's sword related thread (SPOILER)
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Honestly…... if Oda were to let Zoro pick up Funkfried and make it a temporary replacement for the next arc and only replace it later in the future, it would really be lame......LAME!
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ITs not as lame as using a basic cannon fodder sword for the replacement for an arc or 2.
Funk fried was drastically underused. The sword was powerful before it even had a devil fruit, I believe. Spandam was just stupid.
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I agree. Frankfried even has a reputation as a powerful weapon, which if you think about how often Spandam probably fights must mean it has an amazing history.
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Funkfreed would look silly with his other swords. Same with Mihawk's sword.
Despite the coolness of inheriting the sword of a defeated enemy, this is a shonen manga. You know something won't be a weapon for the badass character unless it 'looks' right. Can you imagine a 300-pound cannon with a half-elephant and a big honkin' black thing?
And besides, has anyone ever considered that Zoro will inherit Mihawk's true weapon, the necklace dagger? Obviously, this is the true strongest weapon.
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This is why I like one piece, because the characters and there weapons aren't invincible, all the people have been beat before and this is the 2nd time zoro had his swords broken and I am sure they will brake again in the future.
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there is no way Zoro won't be using Wado….because it is Kuina's sword, its like he and Kuina are fighting together.........
oda couldn't have said it better himself
i wouldn't mind usopp getting funkfried or burn bazooka or ohm's sword or impact dial or reject or skate dials or using pistols or all of them and i wouldn't mind chopper eating the golden horns from the forth movie or franky getting as powersorce that red light in the third tv special and i can't say if i would like or dislike sanji for eating a devil fruit,maybe the sanji fans have a better opinion but as a zoro fan i know some certain things about zoro:
1)he will become the world's greatest swordsman
2)he carries kuina's soul and dreams (wado ichimoji)
3)his power comes only from his traininghe doesn't need any upgrade or any devil fruit or any magical or special sword
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I know exactly what Zoro's new sword is going to be and how he's going to get it.
The SH's are going to go to a spring island after this and Zoro will be walking in the woods 'cause he's lost.
He'll trip over something, and fall only to see a sword sticking out of the ground.
He'll go to pick it up and it'll slip right out of the stone it was embedded in.
Then the wizard Merlin will explain to zoro that he is the true king of this land called Camelot. And the sword is called excalibur.
Then Zoro remains as king and the series ends.
Oh and Mihawk is his court jester.
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1)he will become the world's greatest swordsman
2)he carries kuina's soul and dreams (wado ichimoji)
3)his power comes only from his traininghe doesn't need any upgrade or any devil fruit or any magical or special sword
and won't ever get things like that- Yes! Well you must be a fan after all!
- Great! You must be a Zoro expert!
- … wtf is you talkin boot psolaras?
If you watch early OP, you would realize that Zoro cannot perform at his peak without exceptional swords that can handle how powerful he is. In fact, without special swords, he ends up breaking the swords and losing the battle.
Kuinas sword is special, it is an extremely rare sword and as such, allows for him to perform higher level techniques he does not need to train to control those techniques. These are techniques such as 3 thousand worlds, which he obviously has not mastered/come close to using, and yet Kuinas sword did not break, because it is above his skill was at the time and thus could handle mistakes.
The cursed sword is special, it is bloodthirsty and in the begining of EL we started to see the demon aura surround Zoro as he realized more and more of it's power. It isn't coincidence he started talking about the cursed sword right before he started using his demon oni giri + 9 sword techniques.
Therefore, while he is an extremely powerful swordsman that has achieved all he has because of training. His swords are still his tools, without them he would not have achieved what he had achieved, and if he had other special swords he would have achieved alternate abilities.
Each of his rare swords had a soul, some stonger than others, but non the less each of his swords unlocked new abilities for him because of that soul, be it demon or master swordsman.
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I know exactly what Zoro's new sword is going to be and how he's going to get it.
The SH's are going to go to a spring island after this and Zoro will be walking in the woods 'cause he's lost.
He'll trip over something, and fall only to see a sword sticking out of the ground.
He'll go to pick it up and it'll slip right out of the stone it was embedded in.
Then the wizard Merlin will explain to zoro that he is the true king of this land called Camelot. And the sword is called excalibur.
Then Zoro remains as king and the series ends.
Oh and Mihawk is his court jester.
Holy shit….it's King Zoro!!!! and the knights of the marimo tables!!!
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What are YOU talking about Refii?
2 of Zoro's moves were invented using JOHNNY AND YOSAKU'S SWORDS.
Bleeding the Wolf and Tatsumaki was originally done by Wado Ichimonji and those two swords.
Then, in the Davy Back fight, he does Tatsumaki with NO SWORDS.
The swords have nothing to do with his ability. Zoro is a true swordsman in every sense of the word. The swords may enhance his abilities, but they are by no means the indication of his development.
Otherwise, if they are, explain to me how he learned how to do Bleeding the Wolf and Tatsumaki.
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Uhm, Refii? Kuina's sword din't break because Mihawk's diagonal stroke moved across Zoro's chest. It never touched the Wado ichimonji.
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I agree, octagon, but if you look back at the panel you can trace the outline of where Hawkeye's sword went.
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The way I read the panel, Mihawk's slash hit all three swords, but did not break through Kuinas sword. Why? Because it is a special 1 of 12 of its kind rare sword that has a soul, unlike most regular swords.
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or you can it like this….Mihawk's sword soul detects something about it and avoided destroying Kunia's sword because of that.....
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People are being blinded ignorant about this sword thing. I can understand not wanting him to have Funk Fried because so far it is a silly and comedy sword. But saying that he wouldnt be relying on his own power is not looking at the big picture. Two swords he ALREADY HAVE are more powerful than the Funk Fried sword, so it seems. One is a legendary curse sword and has a "spirit" inside. The other sword also has a soul that Mihawk's sword detected. His swords ALREADY have special powers to them.
A true swordsmen is ONE with his sword. The sword power is the swordsmen power. Better swords = better swordsman. This is true in reality and in most fiction. Zoro's swords are PART of his power. He wouldnt be a swordsman if the swords wasnt part of his power.
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Better sword = better swordsman, don't think that is right….
a strong sword is only as good as it's user......if ONLY IF the swordsman is strong and able to use it to it's fullest potential.......
give a strong sword to a weak person, the weak person won't be able to use the sword to it's fullest potential....
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Well that is true, but what i meant by better sword = better swordsman means that you are only strong as your sword when you are a swordsman.
A great swordsman is greater when he has a great sword than if he has a crappy sword.
True a bad or inexperienced sword man will not be good with a great sword but they will still be a little better than with a crappy one.
This is true for any weapons. When you are a weapon user, u are only as strong as ur weapon allows you to be. (in reality, I understand that fiction can change things in a way). If I am sniper and my rifle has a longer distance than your rifle, even tho u may be a better "sniper" than me. I will still most likely kill you if I use my maxium range with my sniper. There are other factors involved of course but it is a disadvantage if you have a weaker weapon.
Like with Zoro, he had other swords break before because they couldnt handle his power and style. If he is in a serious fight and his swords break because they are weak, than he loses (most likely). Plain and simple.
I was also referring that TWO OF ZORO's SWORDS are stronger than Funk Fried, so how would it be cheap if zoro used a sword than is no more stronger than his other swords that have spirits in them?
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hopefully, it will happen in the next arc….which I am positive that there will be Tashigi again...... it's either Zoro fighting with her for a katana, or she gave him one........
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Okay…. I'll ask this again. Why does Tashigi have to be there when Zoro gets a new sword?
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because Tashigi is on a mission collecting meitou, and if there is a rare sword/katana/blade/whatever around, there is a chance for a reunion…..
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anyone think that zoro will get the sword made by usop using dials??? i just wondering he might get the clowd sword
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no, Usopp won't be able to made a sword…....it's out of his league.....
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Uh, Hattori Hanzo was a person. One of the most famous ninja of all time. O_o; What kind of cracked-out history book did you read ?
I don't think he knew that. He was making a reference to Kill Bill, probably. In Kill Bill, they make up a fictional master katana crafter named Hattori Hanzo, who just happens to be a teacher in Bushido/Kenjutsu.
But yes, there was a famous ninja named Hattori Hanzo too. But Yagyu Jubei was cooler.
Speaking of which, I think Jyabura is named after Yagyu Jubei. They look similar in appearance, except for the Kabuki facepaint.
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- Yes! Well you must be a fan after all!
- Great! You must be a Zoro expert!
- … wtf is you talkin boot psolaras?
If you watch early OP, you would realize that Zoro cannot perform at his peak without exceptional swords that can handle how powerful he is. In fact, without special swords, he ends up breaking the swords and losing the battle.
Kuinas sword is special, it is an extremely rare sword and as such, allows for him to perform higher level techniques he does not need to train to control those techniques. These are techniques such as 3 thousand worlds, which he obviously has not mastered/come close to using, and yet Kuinas sword did not break, because it is above his skill was at the time and thus could handle mistakes.
The cursed sword is special, it is bloodthirsty and in the begining of EL we started to see the demon aura surround Zoro as he realized more and more of it's power. It isn't coincidence he started talking about the cursed sword right before he started using his demon oni giri + 9 sword techniques.
Therefore, while he is an extremely powerful swordsman that has achieved all he has because of training. His swords are still his tools, without them he would not have achieved what he had achieved, and if he had other special swords he would have achieved alternate abilities.
Each of his rare swords had a soul, some stonger than others, but non the less each of his swords unlocked new abilities for him because of that soul, be it demon or master swordsman.
what didn't you understand from my post? when i say special swords i mean like funkfried or the seven stars sword not a rare sword and about your post no no no
his abilities doesn't come from his weapons,again this isn't devil may cry,he doesn't get new weapons after a big fight and doesn't turn into a devil with a different ability according to his weapon
katana follows will and power comes from training,
@Fire Fist:
What are YOU talking about Refii?
2 of Zoro's moves were invented using JOHNNY AND YOSAKU'S SWORDS.
Bleeding the Wolf and Tatsumaki was originally done by Wado Ichimonji and those two swords.
Then, in the Davy Back fight, he does Tatsumaki with NO SWORDS.
The swords have nothing to do with his ability. Zoro is a true swordsman in every sense of the word. The swords may enhance his abilities, but they are by no means the indication of his development.
Otherwise, if they are, explain to me how he learned how to do Bleeding the Wolf and Tatsumaki.
exactly and
Uhm, Refii? Kuina's sword din't break because Mihawk's diagonal stroke moved across Zoro's chest. It never touched the Wado ichimonji.
exactly again although i don't know if it would have broken anyway but mihawk propably never touched it and it is clear from the manga that he didn't
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Just remember what I said when he gets another rare special sword and all of the sudden we see moves that have absolutely nothing to do with his previuous moves (ex 9 armed Zoro).
And a sword is special is special no less because it doesn't shoot elephants from its hilt. A sword that is stronger, sharper and can't be broken as easily is just as usefull if not more, than a sword that can shoot clouds a mile away. They are top of the line tools, and they enchance the swordsmans ability, that's all.
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no, Usopp won't be able to made a sword…....it's out of his league.....
Not necessarily, but I agree that he wouldn't. Plus a cloud sword is impossible, cloud dials don't work in the blue seas.
i still say he's got a chance at getting franfried. When you come right down to it, we all know whatever oda does will probably be cool.
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I still don't understand why you people think Zoro would drop the current marine sword for Frankfreed. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
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I still don't understand why you people think Zoro would drop the current marine sword for Frankfreed. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
Well for one thing, the current marine sword looks silly. Second, while Frankfried is no wado ichimonji, it has at least something of a reputation.
Also, while everybody is talking about how Frankfried can't be one of the famous swords: What kind of sword would you want to add a devil fruit to, a crappy piece of tin or something that could already do real damage, if you had the choice?
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The way I see it, the strongest argument against Zoro using Funkfried as a permanent sword is that it's not a katana. It may have some reputation, and may have some interesting abilities, but it is still not a katana. Although he has used other swords in the past, he has always preferred katanas, and I just don't see him wielding any other type of sword long term.
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I still don't understand why you people think Zoro would drop the current marine sword for Frankfreed. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
Like I said before, to squash Mr. Rust.
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The way I see it, the strongest argument against Zoro using Funkfried as a permanent sword is that it's not a katana. It may have some reputation, and may have some interesting abilities, but it is still not a katana. Although he has used other swords in the past, he has always preferred katanas, and I just don't see him wielding any other type of sword long term.
I dunno, you couldn't call Hawkeye's sword a katana either really. I don't see anything wrong with hum using a differeny kind of sword, especially one like Frankfried which actually isn't all that different (It's still got a curved blade and everything).
On the other hand, you might be right about how Frankfried not being a katana is an indicator. I say again though: Zoro lost a sword in an arc with an underused magical sword.
It's not proof, but it's something to think about.
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Mihawk's sword isn't a katana, it's a grosses messer.
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anyone think that zoro will get the sword made by usop using dials??? i just wondering he might get the clowd sword
dunno butdo u mean the BUSTER SWORD? lol!
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Mihawk's sword isn't a katana, it's a grosses messer.
Which is what I said, I think:blink: I dunno, I can't really think too well. Damn Shor Sensei and her fifty bajillion pages of homework.
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Well obviously then, Hawkeyes doesn't have a policy for using katanas. You don't have to use katanas to be the best swordsman in the world, but it seems that for Zoro, using katanas is pretty important.
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Well obviously then, Hawkeyes doesn't have a policy for using katanas. You don't have to use katanas to be the best swordsman in the world, but it seems that for Zoro, using katanas is pretty important.
I don't know that that shop where he got Kietsu and Yu Bashiri (RIP) had much BUT katanas. I think he might take any sword of comperable size and shape.
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It had all sorts of crap, from guns to bastard swords.
Btw, what style of Swordsmanship do you think Zoro is? To me, he's most like Kenjutsu, but it has a little bit of Battojutsu it. It's defintely not any Iaido, because Zoro will actually draw his sword and hold it before initiating his move. I can't think of a single time he drew the sword, immediately slashed and sheathed it again, except in the Apis filler arc when he was cutting those chains.
Come to think it, the only subtle move that Zoro did was Iitoryu Lion's Sing. Draw, slice, sheath. That's Iaido. But every other move is Battojutsu (Which, btw, was the style of Yagyu Jubei and Rimoura Kenshin) and Kenjutsu.
I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.
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@Fire Fist:
It had all sorts of crap, from guns to bastard swords.
Btw, what style of Swordsmanship do you think Zoro is? To me, he's most like Kenjutsu, but it has a little bit of Battojutsu it. It's defintely not any Iaido, because Zoro will actually draw his sword and hold it before initiating his move. I can't think of a single time he drew the sword, immediately slashed and sheathed it again, except in the Apis filler arc when he was cutting those chains.
Come to think it, the only subtle move that Zoro did was Iitoryu Lion's Sing. Draw, slice, sheath. That's Iaido. But every other move is Battojutsu (Which, btw, was the style of Yagyu Jubei and Rimoura Kenshin) and Kenjutsu.
I belive Zoro is well skilled in the art of "Whatever Oda thinks looks cool this week."
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I think Zoro will kill Shanks and take HIS sword. Then, Luffy and Zoro will have a fight to the death, and in all the commotion, Sanji will cook Chopper in protest of all the in-crew fighting. Mmmmmm… Tanuki... Everybody wins!
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@Fire Fist:
Come to think it, the only subtle move that Zoro did was Iitoryu Lion's Sing. Draw, slice, sheath. That's Iaido. But every other move is Battojutsu (Which, btw, was the style of Yagyu Jubei and Rimoura Kenshin) and Kenjutsu.
Well just recently (kinda, ch.371) Zoro did the nitouryuu iai Rashoumon. He clearly sheaths the katanas again after the move (I mean hey, it's a 1.5 page spread).
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well, if you think about it…... Zoro might have learn most of the styles on his own.........but since his attacks are using 3 katanas, he can't just draw, slice and sheath......
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That's very true, Kljs. Iaido itself is often how Japanese Swordsmanship is portrayed in movies. It's a very subtle, fluid motion. The same could be said if you drew a gun, fired it, then sheathed it in one motion. Iaido works to minimize excessive movement. At the beginning of the series, many of Zoro's swordsman abilities had very much excessive movement. Very akin to Kenjutsu or Battojutsu, in which the sword is kept drawn for the entireity of the fight. With Iaido, you "make it happen" right at that moment, then the weapon goes back to the starting position.
When Zoro does Lion's Song or pretty much anything with just Wado, That's Iaido. Draw, slash, sheath. All one fluid movement.
Mihawk obviously practices Iaido, based on what he says to Zoro: "Without subtle movement, a sword is useless". In all of the moves we've seen him use the Kuroken with, it's the same thing: Draw, attack, sheath.
I think Zoro will get to this point eventually. It's just a matter of time.
