An Alternate ENGLISH One Piece dub (a legit one)

Quexinos

I know this has been discussed before but only in the 4kids topics and not a lot of people check those on a regular basis. So to those who don't know, I present the Alternate English One Piece dub:

Yes you heard me, there is an alternate ENGLISH DUB! Not English subtitles, not a fan dub, but a 100% legit ENGLISH dub of One Piece out there, and it beats the SNOT outta the 4kids version. (like that's hard to do) The only thing I know they cut is Sanji's cigarette BUT.. he doesn't have a lollipop. He just has nothing and it looks fine really. They did such a good job editing I was finding myself asking, "Did Sanji always not have a cigarette there or did they edit it?" I was just informed the other day by RomanGod about this and thought I'd post it here. I got permission from a mod to post this too BTW.

The main problems consist of Luffy's name is pronounced Luh-fy and saying "rubber" instead of like gum gum or gomu gomu, and some people say the voices are worse than 4kids. I disagree. After watching the clips a few times, I really think the voices are just fine. Some people say 4kids voices are better and again, I really disagree here but it's all about opinions.

Anywho, there's some clips on youtube:
A few clips including some of Buggy, Sanji, Gin and Lougetown

Luffy saves Zoro in the third episode

I suppose you want to know now where to obtain this. Well it's dubbed by a group in Singapore called "Odex" and unfortunately, finding their merchandise online is… quite difficult. this is the only one I could find.

http://www.popular.com.sg/jsp/product/product_detail.jsp?vca001=0&vpd001=53044#

It's volume one and is VCD, not DVD. I guess Odex doesn't do much DVD. They've dubbed a LOT of the series and Im sure they're ahead of 4kids, but until I find out more about them, this is the best I can do. If anyone has any info on where to obtain their produces (besides Singapore) let me know. Until then, I'll just keep searching around.

psycho wolvesbane

Well the voices may be a little amatuerish but they pull it off better because of the lack of noticible edits.

Buuhan1

The Singapore dub? Don't we have a international dub thread?

RomanGod

Yeah, but… I haven't seen it for awhile.

Buccaneer

…I saw a small clip of this dub before, and seeing this much, I gotta say 4Kids did a better job. Oh, except for the score, wow.

Seta Ginny

From what little I listened to, Sanji sounds a lot better than 4Kids, it has the original music, and from what I heard the rest of the main crew didn't sound too bad. Not great, but it doesn't make me want to gouge out my ear drums. Which is a big improvement from 4Kids.

Still, there's no way this is legit =\ At least in the US.

Throes

I remember this being mentioned in one of the 4kids dub threads on at least one occasion. Voices are meh, everything else is pretty good. Sanji gets his cig completely edited out (which is what 4kids COULD have done instead of add some huge friggin' red lollypop…) but somehow Smoker is still allowed his Cigars. My guess is it's because of the characters ages that they edited out the cig.

Buccaneer

@Seta:

From what little I listened to, Sanji sounds a lot better than 4Kids, it has the original music, and from what I heard the rest of the main crew didn't sound too bad. Not great, but it doesn't make me want to gouge out my ear drums. Which is a big improvement from 4Kids.

Still, there's no way this is legit =\ At least in the US.

While Moo sounds like crap, this guy acts like crap. In comparision to Moo, which says something to me. Very low quality all around, and I find that some of the voices don't fit as well.

I figure anyone they put on for Nami will be decent, but Luffy is just as weird as he is in the US, minus the Luffy feel that the 4Kids person at least tries to get. Usopp and Zeff are pretty much just the same here. Zoro and Buggy seem way too low. Funny because I remember in an interview where someone affiliated with Japanese OP wanted a voice just like that for Zoro, but came to the same conclusion and had Mark Diraison as he is now. Which I honestly think is the best they could have done.

If you noticed, they also made Gin Mexican.

Devilfruitgrower

Zoro's is a little off. Nami's I like. And Luffy's is… well pretty good. Ghin's too Mexican. But Sanji's is WAYYYYYY better, Usopp's.... I kinda like. Smoker's isn't bad. The English Accent is too much For Tashigi. The Dub voices were better for Ghin and Tashigi.

I'm surprisingly comfortable with it.

Buuhan1

@Seta:

From what little I listened to, Sanji sounds a lot better than 4Kids, it has the original music, and from what I heard the rest of the main crew didn't sound too bad. Not great, but it doesn't make me want to gouge out my ear drums. Which is a big improvement from 4Kids.

Still, there's no way this is legit =\ At least in the US.

Its legit, in Singapore. >P

ChibiGoku

The dub and vcd release is Legit. The company, Odex, mostly produced VCDs in Singapore. They've also helped with dubbing Dan-Doh!, which their dub was used for our US release. They've also been involved in redubbing Rockman.exe.

Also, VCDs seem more popular in the Asian region, and a few areas of Europe. However, just because this show is released on the VCD format, it doesn't mean it's illegal. (This probably spawned from the fact alot of bootlegs are VCDs in the China region) Odex has released a few DVDs of their series, one in mind is FullMetal Alchemist in their country. (Though it was also released in VCD.)

raj

That's kind of cool. Anyone know how many episodes have been dubbed?

Jejune

Eh, Sanji's voice is better, but the acting is about on the same level as dub Vivi… same with Zoro, he's a stinker (yet funny- "Run Luhfy run!") and Luffy is the worst of all. XD
I don't see how Usopp is an improvement on Dubsopp. And Gin! His voice is TOO funny!
Ahem, yes... It's a good, accurate dub, but the voices were enough to make me... less than impressed.

taboo

Zoro sounds so monotone and forced. xD Luffy was better than 4kids though.

Edit: Usopp sounds slightly better than 4kids, but I still don't like it.

AWB

Luffy sounds worse than he does in 4KIDS. The mellowness of Tracey Sketchet is not how I imagine Luffy.

Nami is perfect IMHO. Zoro sounds like a stoner.

Buuhan1

Okay, my ears must be fucked cause when I hear the singapore Usopp I hear the japanese usopp speaking fluent english.

Buccaneer

Yes, your ears are "fucked." Pretty much, there's just a bias against 4Kids, because that Usopp is just as shitty as ours. But ignoring opinion on voice sounds, this could hardly be called professional. Sounds like leftover dialogue from the Juggernaut video.

bevin

Gotta say, the acting in these clips just sort of… whelmed me. I'm whelmed. I honestly think some of those voices made me appreciate the 4Kids actors in some cases. I didn't even make it to Tashigi. Keeping the original music and lessening the edits is great but the acting failed to impress me rather spectacularly.

dazze01

at least its ZORO… and the orchestral music is still there..

Jamesco

Honestly, I'd take the 4kids one over this. The voices sucked, IMO. Sure, they left in all the music and stuff, but the voices actually gave me more of a headache than 4kids. Luffy sounds like a freaking dude from a kid's educational tape. And Zoro sounds like a fat guy constipated. Also, they left out gomu gomu or gum gum or whatever.

Quexinos

I really thought the acting was barable compared to 4kids. Especially after watching them a few times.

I guess it's not the greatest but I would so prefer it to 4kids. I mean let's see

4kids:
Bad acting
bad music
skipped episodes
changed names
stupid gun edits

Odex.
bad acting
good music
no skipped episodes
no changed names
no stupid gun edits

to me Odex comes out on top ^_^

CosmicDebris

I don't know, maybe it's just me, but I place voices/acting on a much higher priority list then edits. And I don't think the Singapore dub made it very far in the series anyway.

The only voice I think is better than 4kids is Nami, and I don't even mind 4kids Nami that much. Sanji's voice doesn't fit at all, he sounds like a pansy, and Usopp sucks almost as much as 4kids dub too, and Luffy…bleh. 4kids Zoro is way better.

Quexinos

yeah Zoro's the only one I really don't like. He sounds sexy but his VA just doesn't pull it off well =/

and I thought they did get pretty far… like past where 4kids got but maybe I'm wrong. And I mean you're right about voice acting. It should be high up there BUT... their VCDs have English subtitles with Japanese voices choises so that's a huge plus right there XD We're not gonna get that from 4kids

EDIT:
yeah they've gotten pretty far, so says this ebay auction:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ONE-PIECE-ANIME-DVD-ep98-223-VCD-ep1-104-english_W0QQitemZ280024086780QQihZ018QQcategoryZ617QQcmdZViewItem

Ceestar

@CosmicDebris:

I don't know, maybe it's just me, but I place voices/acting on a much higher priority list then edits. And I don't think the Singapore dub made it very far in the series anyway.

The only voice I think is better than 4kids is Nami, and I don't even mind 4kids Nami that much. Sanji's voice doesn't fit at all, he sounds like a pansy, and Usopp sucks almost as much as 4kids dub too, and Luffy…bleh. 4kids Zoro is way better.

I must say I agree here, bad acting turns me way off, especially because I really admire some Canadian VA's and I'd like to be one later on.

The voices and acting are- to be honest- as bad as 4Kids, in Luffy and Zoro's cases worse :sad: Nami's is so-so, I like Usopp's and compared to the 4Kids one, I LOVE SANJI'S VOICE! 4Kids's one is just insulting to Sanji-kun's name =.="

But editing wise these people are gods! They're awesome! They left in plenty of stuff that 4Kids didn't have to cut out. Cutting Sanji's cigarette was alright too, they did a pretty fine job of it at least.

Buuhan1

Yeah, sometimes I can't help but wonder if Sanji just not having anything in his mouth in the dub would be better than him having a lolly.

l2agnarok

I like Sanji's,Luffy's and Zoro's Voices,To me the 4kids one sucks..Though a little bit more acting and these voices can be really good.

gaara d. lucci

What really saves this dub is that they don't edit much. I prefer the 4kids Strawhat voices (except Sanji & Ussop of course). But still, if it aired in America, I'd definitely watch it.

dazze01

the zoro there sounds like sasuke….that aint cool!

bevin

The Zoro sounds like he's trying to do a Dirty Harry impression. If you get a guy with a genuinely deep, gravelly voice, that's fine, but it's painful to hear that guy stretching for it every line. It just makes him sound like he's TRYING to be cool, or something.

Luffy's voice gives me a 'creepy uncle' vibe for some reason. Kind of reminds me of the guys who do "Dub Piece"'s girls' voices– vaguely femenine while still letting you know there's a guy doing it.

I just pinned down what was bothering me about them. ^^;

theAMAZINGboo

I really like the voice they picked for Sanji on that.. And Usopps is a bit better sounding than the other english voice for me.

Luffy is a bit weird, and zoro's sounds too forced. But hey.

Quexinos

Luffy you could get used to I think… I have to hear him when he's angry though...

kryptonite

> None of these voices are better than 4kids', which is sad… Maybe only Vivi would be better, because Sanji and Usopp aren't. >> Smoker is fine, and it sounds like half the characters have fake accents. >_> IMO, these voices are unbearable, especially Luffy's. But they're funny. (Except Luffy's. T_T) XD

Tashigi: That Strawhat Luhffy has arrived in the harbor! We need to blockade the sea border![/English accent]

Quexinos

guys I just realized I had both links linking to the same video:

there's the REAL second one.

HitsugayaToushiro1191

Morgan sounds… A LOT like Buggy.

I like Sanji and Usopp's voice better in the Singapore one though. The Usopp here sounds kinda like he's trying to imitate Yamaguchi.

Quexinos

For crying out loud people, you hate the 4kids dub… then when I present you with an alternate you're like "I don't like that one either...." XD

PS, i know that's not really true and what you guys mean, but personally I do believe this dub is the lesser of two evils.

Also there isn't a lot of the 4kids version you can say "at least" i mean NOW you can say "At least they're improving" but that's like it.

With Odex you can say "At leas tthey kept the original score" and "At least they don't make as many edits" and "at least Sanji doesn't have an accent" and stuff like that

Buccaneer

Ha, Smoker and Zoro seem to be indentical.

CosmicDebris

@Quexinos:

For crying out loud people, you hate the 4kids dub… then when I present you with an alternate you're like "I don't like that one either...." XD

That's because this dub sucks too. XD Two wrongs don't make a right. I'm perfectly happy with my fansubs. Let me know when a truly good dub comes around. Probably not any time soon. :sad: And this dub is not any more accessible to the average person than fansubs are.

I don't care whether it's the lesser of two evils (just barely) or how it stands up to 4kids. I care how it stands up in comparison to the original.

taboo

I wish I had a microphone so I could make a fandub where I do all the voices. (for amusement)

CosmicDebris

Mics cost like $10.

There was another silly fandub that was done a few years ago by one person. I think I have it on my HD still.

Quexinos

@CosmicDebris:

I don't care whether it's the lesser of two evils (just barely) or how it stands up to 4kids. I care how it stands up in comparison to the original.

you're right, neither can really hold a candle to the original but really, how many dubs do?… as I said, lesser of two evils... and Im tyring to contact Odex to see if they'll sell more of their OP VCDs online, now they only sell the one. But if they sold them all I bet that would at least help people get away from 4kids. Which is important to me at lesat.

GearSecond

Nami and Morgan were the only fair ones. the Marines(ack they SAID NAVY!) sounded ok too, the lines were fine but not lip-synced well and the voices sound too forced and recorded.

Coby was meh but good enough.

biggest error is how they pronounce names. luh fay and sanji pronounced english a style(aaah instead of the Japanese awwwwww) sounded funky

Translation wise they did fine, the problem is it is ranslated as a show, but the spirit and stuff there is gone. when there's severe emoition put behind a line it is ok, but seems a little like it doesn't come naturally(like the big nose part) andSanji's voice sucked. the 4kids sanji without the accent would be better.

although iw as happy with the overall music and background sounds. better then replacing every noise like 4kids did, wher eif it made a sound it was changed.

4kids usually lacks the proper or any spirit at all, this one totally lacks it, with 4kids edit policys putting it behind a bit. I didn't even see the louguetown part, iw atched the 2nd one then half the first one. after Zef(f) thorugh Sanji at the table I went back.

Forte EXE

Oh god,not this.

Okay,Malaysian here.

I get to watch this dub every Saturday for an hour. They've recently switched to dual sound format,so we get the awesome Japanese voices and the crappy dub voices at the same time.

Smoker's cigars have been completely edited out now,so all you see is smoke pouring from his mouth.

Seta Ginny

I guess my thing is, I don't tend to think the acting in dubs is very good to begin with. Even dubs that aren't edited to shreds, a lot of times I am not satisfied. I think the quality of dubs has gone up over the years, and there are a few dubs I like, (Cowboy Bebop, Fullmetal Alchemist) but even in those, there are times where I think the acting is off. When I watch a dub (which is seldom, but more often since I moved in with Monty) I usually expect to hear sub par acting. It's just how many dubs sound to me…which is, again, why I usually don't watch them.

I didn't really listen to those clips very closely, since I was just listening to hear the voices of the Strawhats, but yeah. I don't think David Moo can act from what few episodes I suffered through watching, plus he sounds horrible out of character. Maybe his acting has improved recently? I don't know. I am not sadistic enough to watch it =P This guy sounded more like Sanji to me than him. And in all honest, that is not saying a lot.

Of course I would rather watch the original version. And there is no way in hell I would spend money on this dub, because yeah, it is crappy even if it less crappy than 4Kids. But let me put it this way - If I had to watch one under pain of death, I'd choose this one. I'd rather have the original music and story with mostly crappy acting than music changes, changes to the original story and characters, and mostly crappy acting with maybe a few decent spots.

Forte EXE

Currently the dub runs for an hour which is two eps at a time.

The 1Kids version was better than this
The Voices really sucked. The 4kids

Dread Pirate Bananna

@ Seta Ginny: I completely agree with dub voices. If you compare American cartoons (okay, animated in Korea, but I digress) with dubs, the quality of the acting is VASTLY different. It makes me sad, because IMO it's not actually that hard to actually make them sound decent. dons flame-proof suit, just in case As for this version, it's okay for some of the secondary voices. British!Tashigi makes me giggle. But I'd almost rather have Sanji sounding comically bad than just awfully mediocre… it's easier to mock. This dub Luffy cannot vary his delivery at all, he's just squeaking up there in the exact same tone. "Oh my gosh!" made me laugh, and Zoro sounds kind of... drugged, although he's not too too bad. Usopp's VA has fallen into the all-too-common dub trap of 'Yelling makes EVERYTHING sound better!', though. But it gets major points for not editing it straight to hell.

Quexinos

poor Vivi, she can't seem to get a good voice:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/shylu/

dazze01

luffy sounds like YUGI…it creeps me..hope robin gets a good VA

CosmicDebris

@Quexinos:

you're right, neither can really hold a candle to the original but really, how many dubs do?…

A lot do. When I have the option, I usually watch the English dub unless it's really awful. A lot of the times it is, but many times it's not. There's some anime that I prefer the English dub.

warp

@Quexinos:

poor Vivi, she can't seem to get a good voice:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/shylu/

why won't winzip or rar open these. >>

As for the this dub I like how they use the bgm. Some of the voices make my ears cringe. I love tashigis voice though XD.

Also I would like to see a whole dub episode of this and then that same episode I just watched in the 4kids version so I could really think what is better.