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    • Gizmo
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      Well the previous chapters seem to indicate that the Straw Hats are going to the fishman island. So other than meeting some scaly people doesn't this seem like a perfect opportunity for Sanji's dream to come back to the storyline?

      Why not as a fishman or merman to ask where All Blue is? Especially since they're all in the ocean, so they would know. All maybe it could be around the island, and the fishmen/mermen are trying to protect it from humans. It could make an interesting storyline…

      Originally Posted by Nightwing

      Stay focused, cause right now you have a decision to make. Are you a man perpetually looking back at what he’s lost, or a man looking forward, to what he might become?

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        Yeah, but then Sanji wouldn't have a reason to travel with them anymore.

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          @Itzal:

          Yeah, but then Sanji wouldn't have a reason to travel with them anymore.

          You mean besides protecting his friends, helping them achieve their dreams, traveling the world and learning the recipes of differant cultures and islands etc. that he otherwise would have no chance of exposure to. For example, Skypeia's cuisine.

          Wasn't that one of the reasons Zeff gave him as a reason to leave his side? That without exploring the world, and gathering personal experience etc. he'd never be a great chef?

          Besides, it'd be slightly crap if every crew members dream was achieved in one arc.

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            @Itzal:

            Yeah, but then Sanji wouldn't have a reason to travel with them anymore.

            He wouldn't leave as long as Nami and Robin are on board.

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              yeah I agree. Sanji would have a reason to stay with the crew since they grew so much. But if it were in the beginning, I doubt he would follow Luffy anymore.

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                Yea Sanji's loyalty isn't really of the question. Plus even if he did find All Blue, what would he do, just stay there forever? No, he'd probably still go with the others with his captain.
                Are merman or fishmen able to talk to fish though?

                Originally Posted by Nightwing

                Stay focused, cause right now you have a decision to make. Are you a man perpetually looking back at what he’s lost, or a man looking forward, to what he might become?

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                  Fishman island seems to be fairly well known, so if All Blue was anywhere near there, I would think that it wouldn't still be a legend.
                  Still, anything's possible.

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                    I'll be going by the theory that All Blue in inside REverse mountain. It's logicall, since water from all the blues would be flowing into reverse mountain.

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                      Not a bad theory at all octagon.

                      That said, i think what we'll see at the end of the series is a set of Arcs like East Blue, where Luffy got the chars one after another in rapic succession, except it's a set where every character achieves their dream one at a time. Nami completes her world map, Usopp takes down a Shichibaki (Making him a great warrior of the sea,) Zoro takes down Mihawk, etc, culminating with the finding of One Piece, or possibly dealing with whatever situation hasd cropped up around that (wrapping up dragon, the WG, etc.)

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                        Not a bad theory at all octagon.

                        Thanks. but even though I had that idea from before I oined it's till not my theory. Someone on this board posted quite a while a go, I forgot who.

                        That said, i think what we'll see at the end of the series is a set of Arcs like East Blue, where Luffy got the chars one after another in rapic succession, except it's a set where every character achieves their dream one at a time. Nami completes her world map, Usopp takes down a Shichibaki (Making him a great warrior of the sea,) Zoro takes down Mihawk, etc, culminating with the finding of One Piece, or possibly dealing with whatever situation hasd cropped up around that (wrapping up dragon, the WG, etc.)

                        Octogon agrees

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                          I always assumed that All Blue was by Raftel. But the reverse mountain idea is interesting.

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                            this might be a good time to ask about that episode in Louge town. The episode where Sanji joins that cooking competition; is that filler as well? cause they said that fish all over the world come there, but no one menchioned anything about all blue.

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                              Yeah, that episode was filler.

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                                I imagine (and this applies to everyone) once each of the crewmembers achieves their dreams they'll realize that the crew continues to need them, and that they simply cannot leave their nakama. I mean after all that bonding and time together could you really leave friends as close as the Mugiwara? People live their entire lives without even one friend as good as the mugiwara, much less an entire crew..

                                And besides none of their dreams intertwine, Zoro can continue being Sword master on the pirate kings boat, where the original copy of the entire grand line map, the cure to all diseases and the archeologist that discovered the lost 100 years reside while being served by the best chef in east blue (once he's reached all blue however, I imagine due to experience of cooking every type of fish, best chef in the GL).

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                                  @TheSonofBattles:

                                  You mean besides protecting his friends, helping them achieve their dreams, traveling the world and learning the recipes of differant cultures and islands etc. that he otherwise would have no chance of exposure to. For example, Skypeia's cuisine.

                                  Wasn't that one of the reasons Zeff gave him as a reason to leave his side? That without exploring the world, and gathering personal experience etc. he'd never be a great chef?

                                  Besides, it'd be slightly crap if every crew members dream was achieved in one arc.

                                  That makes sense.

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                                    @ultimateclima:

                                    Well the previous chapters seem to indicate that the Straw Hats are going to the fishman island. So other than meeting some scaly people doesn't this seem like a perfect opportunity for Sanji's dream to come back to the storyline?

                                    Why not as a fishman or merman to ask where All Blue is? Especially since they're all in the ocean, so they would know. All maybe it could be around the island, and the fishmen/mermen are trying to protect it from humans. It could make an interesting storyline…

                                    Interesting…I never thought about that before. This could open up possiblilities for Sanji to fight the main villan in an arc. If some fishman or independant group threaten the integrity of all blue Sanji will probably step in to save his dream.

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                                      I agree with the part about asking the fishpeople where All Blue is. It doesn't have to be about finding All Blue in Merman's Island or whatever that island is called. It can be something similar to Robin finding a clue about the True History in Skypiea. Maybe Oda can reveal a few more hints about the nature of All Blue. I am still hoping that All Blue is found in Raftel.

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                                        @TheSonofBattles:

                                        You mean besides protecting his friends, helping them achieve their dreams, traveling the world and learning the recipes of differant cultures and islands etc. that he otherwise would have no chance of exposure to. For example, Skypeia's cuisine.

                                        Wasn't that one of the reasons Zeff gave him as a reason to leave his side? That without exploring the world, and gathering personal experience etc. he'd never be a great chef?

                                        Besides, it'd be slightly crap if every crew members dream was achieved in one arc.

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                                        Octogon you're theory seems logical. It would be totally awesome if it was there especially since Laboon would be back! sue me i want to see Laboon again

                                        Originally Posted by Nightwing

                                        Stay focused, cause right now you have a decision to make. Are you a man perpetually looking back at what he’s lost, or a man looking forward, to what he might become?

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                                          I'm 100% sure that's how One Piece will end, similar to how DBZ ended:

                                          Luffy will return to the Twin Capes Lighthouse (As Pirate King) and, grinning from ear to ear, will turn to Laboon and say,

                                          "I said I'd be back, didn't I?"

                                          And then as he throws the first punch, it'll freeze frame and the series will end.

                                          I personally think All Blue is either one of three possibilities:

                                          1. Sky Island like Skypeia. This would explain why no one has ever found it. The marine life would swim "up" waterfalls going up the side of the island, similar to how Salmon swim upstream.

                                          Or maybe the island with All Blue was originally on the surface and got blown into the sky during whatever created the grand line. Maybe it even touches down occasionally and fish swim onto it before it lifts back up.

                                          2. Artificial Ocean. Perhaps the Marines created it and to Pirates and citizens, it's a rumor. After all, remember what Chopper said in the most recent chapter? Apparently the seawater around EL is enhanced to weaken Devil Fruit Powers, perhaps to prevent criminals from escaping. Perhaps All Blue is just another artifical ocean the marines created during some kind of experiment (Which would also explain a lot of weird crap on the Grand Line)

                                          3. Underwater: That is, All Blue is in a trench (like the Marianas on Earth) or a cave that's under the surface of All Blue. Tunnels from each of the other oceans would siphon fish/wildlife into this underwater cave/trench. This would explain how wildlife would get past the Calm Belt without getting eaten by Sea Kings.

                                          I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.

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                                            @Fire Fist:

                                            Luffy will return to the Twin Capes Lighthouse (As Pirate King) and, grinning from ear to ear, will turn to Laboon and say,

                                            "I said I'd be back, didn't I?"

                                            And then as he throws the first punch, it'll freeze frame and the series will end.

                                            Seriously perfect, dude. So simple, so awesome.

                                            Ubiq once made pretty profound explanation, flavour with nice pictures, of why he believes All Blues is inside Reverse Mountain. I think it still can be found if you dig enough hard and I think it's well worth of reading. Have fun while digging though.

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                                              @Yoska:

                                              Seriously perfect, dude. So simple, so awesome.

                                              Ubiq once made pretty profound explanation, flavour with nice pictures, of why he believes All Blues is inside Reverse Mountain. I think it still can be found if you dig enough hard and I think it's well worth of reading. Have fun while digging though.

                                              **You mean this?

                                              tis quite a good theory.**

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                                                That theory makes the most sense, but couldn't Wapol use his submarine ship to get to it…if he knew about it?

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                                                  Some weeks ago, I was thinking in this theory about Sanji leaving the Straw Hats if they found All Blue. Personally I prefer that he stayed in the crew if it happen, since he developed a relationship with everyone in the Straw Hats.

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                                                    Pretty much every crew member has a reason to stay on the boat even if/when they achieve their dreams if you think about it. And I mean aside from because they want to help their friends to achieve their dreams and because they want to see the world and what not.

                                                    Luffy: Wants to continue having adverntures, defend his title as Pirate King, meet new friends.

                                                    Zoro: Wants to defend his title and continue to grow in strength and finesse as a swordsman. And with the world as it currently is, being a pirate is the best way to do this, and if he's going to be a pirate, he may as well be one with friends.

                                                    Nami: More adventures means more money, and more chance to refine her map(s).

                                                    Usopp: When he manages to prove to himself that he's brave and strong, would he want to go back to Kaya, or to his father, or would he want to use that strength and bravery to help his friends?

                                                    I know which I think is more likely.

                                                    Sanji: Like I said, he'd want to continue adventuring so he can learn more recipes and styles of cooking, as he did in Skypiea so as to become a better chef.

                                                    Chopper: Search the world with his friends to see if there any diseases he personally has never heard of to find a cure for.

                                                    Robin: She said it herself, the crew are basically her only real purpose in life at this point, and while she does have a dream now because of them, she has shown that it's less important than her crewmates through her actions at Water 7.

                                                    Franky: IF he were to join, and subsequently achieve his dream, it'd mean he's already reached Raftel at least with them. After that, he could stay with them to continue improving the ship maybe. But he at least has a good reason to leave them, what with the Franky Family, so he's the only one I'm really unsure of.

                                                    I've always thought that argument that such and such can't happen because if it did [insert name here] would achieve their dream. And if that happens they would of course immediately walk off the ship and abandon their friends was slightly retarded for the above reasons and more to be honest.

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                                                      @TheSonofBattles:

                                                      Franky: IF he were to join, and subsequently achieve his dream, it'd mean he's already reached Raftel at least with them. After that, he could stay with them to continue improving the ship maybe. But he at least has a good reason to leave them, what with the Franky Family, so he's the only one I'm really unsure of.

                                                      I agree with the reasons you gave

                                                      But I think if Franky does indeed join he'll start to bond and in the end not even he will leave

                                                      But also remember Sanji was Zeff and all the cooks at Baratie

                                                      Chopper was Doc Kureha

                                                      Nami was Genzo and Nojiko and all the people at Cocoyashi

                                                      Ussop was Kaya and the Usopp pirates and also the people of Syrup

                                                      Zoro was Yosaku and Johny and probably is Master

                                                      Luffy was all his friends like Shanks and the people of Fushia

                                                      And they all have friends they made during the travel like Vivi, Crocus and Laboon, Dolton and many others

                                                      The only one that was not place to return to is Nico Robin

                                                      So they have places and friends they would want to see again

                                                      Because new adventures will call for them 😉

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                                                        I set Franky aside because he was not just part of the Franky Family, or just friends with them as was the case with every other members past connections, he was their leader, and it was a job as well a familial thing. Though admittedly the job part was far secondary.

                                                        I agree that its likely that he'd stay, but his bond always came across as so much closer, or at least harder to walk away from than any of the others have.

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                                                          The new arc might mean Sanji takes down someone major. Goody! I think after they achieve their dream, they'll visit their old friends to show they're not forgotten.

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                                                            @Pants-eater:

                                                            The new arc might mean Sanji takes down someone major..

                                                            Why not? Zoro and Mihawk's battle is set in stone. If they cheapen that fight and make it second to a Luffy fight…Oda would officially be insane.

                                                            Originally Posted by Nightwing

                                                            Stay focused, cause right now you have a decision to make. Are you a man perpetually looking back at what he’s lost, or a man looking forward, to what he might become?

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                                                              Everyone has some good theories here, I liked Ubiq's.

                                                              Now, what about Sanji reuniting with Gin…? I think he will play a part; like he sacrifices himself the way Bon Clay did (which leads to the discovery of All Blue). Another possibility is that the One Piece is burried IN ALL Blue, which explains why Luffy and Sanji are so similar.

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                                                                @Itzal:

                                                                Yeah, but then Sanji wouldn't have a reason to travel with them anymore.

                                                                TRUST ME ON THIS! There's no way he'll leave. He's had such a good time, and what about Nami and Robin? With them there's no way he'll leave.

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