RUMOR: PSLiteP??

Taleran

RUMOR: PlayStation Magazine has reported a number of unconfirmed news about the new model of PSP:

Samsung has signed a contract with Sony to supply a huge quantity of 8GB flash storage chips, which will be incorporated into the new PSP
The 8MB storage plays a key role in downloading contents on PSP, via online or PS3
The new PSP will have a built-in camera which should have same functions as the EyeToy
Production costs of the new PSP will be lower than the current mode, because it will be slimmer and easier to produce
A new configuration for the UMD slot, the game will be inserted directly into the system
The new version of PSP is expected to launch in spring 2007

even if they are only rumors, it seems people never learn rule #1 about the handheld market

1. Nintendo Wins.

EDIT: forgot the source is Magicbox

The_green_samurai_ranger

So true, Nintendo does win in the handheld deptment, if I want to watch movies, I'll get out my laptop.

Greg

I'm not sure they're attempting to win the hand-held market. That would be foolish with the scant developers they have.

However, in trying to make an addition to the PS3 which will also serve everyday modern e-purposes and uses (video chat, etc.) it seems right on track.

igalsfy

the psp is a multimedia device, you can't compare it with a nintendo product, which only prupose is to play with it. just see softwares like "travel to" or the one to improve your level in foreign languages. i'd rather say that sony already knows your #1 statement when it comes to portable consoles, then they work on a different way. which sounds good to me (at least, it sounds better than the whole ps3 project)

Yoska

If you can't compare PSP and DS then what you can? Anyway, yeah, it's pretty solid update. Nothing that would make me buy it but with PS3 in mind it makes a lot of sense. I think the built-in camera is best bit of the rumors though.

Greg

If you can't compare PSP and DS then what you can?

It's very simple, you cannot compare the two because Nintendo has such a solid line of developers. PSP could not and should not attempt to compete with Nintendo's vice-like hold on the children's market because PSP has very little to offer to a spectrum of fans with respect to software. Whereas there are a handful of titles for DS that are easy and fun to pick up for any age, PSP, beyond modding, has little to offer and what it does, sometimes fails miserably.

Hence as igal mentioned, it's purpose should not be to compete with Nintendo. If Sony says such a thing AND believes it, (anyone besides Kaz or Kutaragi that is since they're off the wall) they're nuts.

And the upgrade doesn't sound legit considering previous statements they've made regarding their dedication to the PSP product.

But if indeed it is, you can be certain I'll be in line for one.

Taleran

but they will neway, and its not like Sony has been making the smartest marking decisions recently (Y HALO THAR 599 US dollars)

Greg

but they will neway, and its not like Sony has been making the smartest marking decisions recently (Y HALO THAR 599 US dollars)

? Is there any proof of it? And wouldn't a cheaper upgrade be a smart decision? I know I'd spend for it.

Taleran

I meant that about their previous bad marketting desicions (the PS3)

Greg

The PS3 is a poor marketting decision?

This has been decided before its release and before anyone knows what games it will offer for the next 5 years?

Ms. Suave Debonair

@Taleran:

I meant that about their previous bad marketting desicions (the PS3)

Have you seen marketing figures for the PS3? Have you seen boxes and boxes of PS3s sitting on shelves? And why not? Simple, because it isn't out yet. You can't claim it a bad marketing strategy before it's even been put into run yet. Stating a prediction as fact isn't anyway to win an arguement.

And, what about it makes it a 'bad marketing strategy'? I ask you, is it the price? Because if it is then you might as well claim most of the things you find it your local electronics department a 'bad marketing strategy' too.
The PS3 is at a high price because of the cost of the components. The parts that are going into it don't come cheap. You could take some of them out and make it a bit less powerful etc, but then, what is stopping you from just going out and buy an xbox 360.

Sony has competition and they have to get a product out into a market that is going to attract people to it.

Greg

Very true.

If you want an example of poor marketing check out the squirrel PSP ads.

Thats not poor marketing. It's just plain f***ing stupid.

Myoti

Nothing that really makes me wanna buy it, so, meh…

If you want an example of poor marketing check out the squirrel PSP ads.

Thats not poor marketing. It's just plain f***ing stupid.

"Hey man, let's go hit some carpet!"

WHAM

Taleran

@Greg:

Very true.

If you want an example of poor marketing check out the squirrel PSP ads.

Thats not poor marketing. It's just plain f***ing stupid.

wasn't it 2 squirrels and a dust bunny?

god those ads sucked

the Ps2 ads used to be good, the whole live in your world play in ours

Cr4zy

There's another PSP ad with a little finger puppet scene of Romeo & Juliet. The Famous Balcony scene. Something about Greatest Hits and Romeo can't be with Juliet. …...stupid

Yoska

@Greg:

It's very simple, you cannot compare the two because Nintendo has such a solid line of developers. PSP could not and should not attempt to compete with Nintendo's vice-like hold on the children's market because PSP has very little to offer to a spectrum of fans with respect to software. Whereas there are a handful of titles for DS that are easy and fun to pick up for any age, PSP, beyond modding, has little to offer and what it does, sometimes fails miserably.

They are still competing over money from same pockets though. When I decided to get a handheld, DS wasn't the only choice I had. Differences on marketing speeches doesn't change that and having to choose between the two is reality for many. Ergo, comparing the two is very needed and welcome. With all cool features PSP is still a handheld console as much as DS isn't a clock.

It's the same with Nintendo really. They blame Wii isn't competing with PS3 and 360 but that's not reality. It's typical underdog marketing. Besides these all doesn't even matter - if you ask me one can compare a low-fat sausage to Earth's gravity if he wants so (I prefer the later by the way).

Greg

They are still competing over money from same pockets though.

Mmmm, somehow I think not. The same crowd rushing for Pokemon and Yu Gi Oh doesn't strike me as being the same pocket as the individual who wants to play Silent Hill and Metal Gear Solid.

Since I own both you could say it's so in my case but I don't see it as competition. if either system has a game I like, I'll buy it.

Taleran

Its funny but I like Pokemon (well the older games) and MGS and not the other 2….

kaemmerite

@Bad-Beat:

And, what about it makes it a 'bad marketing strategy'?

If I may throw in my opinion, it's not the price, it's the "two models" crap they're pulling. Sony had said they weren't going to pull what Microsoft did with multiple versions of the system, and in the end they did.

What's really sour about this is the 500 dollar model is a complete ripoff. No wi-fi connectivity? No HDMI support? No freaking MEMORY CARD READER? And yes, I know the first and third items are able to be supported by add-ons, but the basic model will never be able to have the HDMI support, which means no use of the Blu Ray that Sony has been touting.

THAT is bad marketing. I have said it before, and I will say it again. Sony should completely and totally scrap the 500 dollar model, it's useless. Then, they should make the 600 dollar model, 500 dollars. While still expensive, it would be a bit of a price break, and no one would get cheated by a watered down model.

I'm not saying this will kill Sony. I'm not saying this will even hurt them. As you said, the PS3 isn't out yet. We still don't know. However, I personally feel that what they are doing in that area is poor marketing.

Greg

I wrote a lengthy reply that got lost but here's the gist.

The 20GB is a brilliant marketting strategy. It's a total waste of money and anyone dumb enough to spend 500 smackers and not research what they're getting deserves the dupe. It's a GREAT marketting and regarding morality or anything like that, that's business. Sony isn't the only company with such things.

Its funny but I like Pokemon (well the older games) and MGS and not the other 2….

Exactly.

The newbie generation of gamers grew up with Pokemon so it makes sense that you like the older games. But like you said, you like the older ones. So it appears your're not rushing out the door to get the new ones. But Nintendo is banking on the next gen. of gamers picking them up. And they do.

Ms. Suave Debonair

In the U.K there will only be the premium package. They made the decision a few months back..
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it is also likely for all of Europe too…

My bet on this is that the lower model isn't cost effective and many of the people who would be able to pay for it themselves would be more in the category of serious gamer and would most likely go for the higher specs model (I know I will).

dlo62282

well if you are talking about the ps3, the cheap model is pretty much a waste of money if u compare it 2 the expensive model. If u get the cheap model of the ps3, that will be horrible. They should not even sell that model or drop the price for that model at least another hundred dollars.

But the stuff on the ps3, looks real good. All the stuff they have included in the other package. You can do ALOT of things with that machine and hopefully the developers for the games step up to the plate.

Yoska

@Greg:

Mmmm, somehow I think not. The same crowd rushing for Pokemon and Yu Gi Oh doesn't strike me as being the same pocket as the individual who wants to play Silent Hill and Metal Gear Solid.

Since I own both you could say it's so in my case but I don't see it as competition. if either system has a game I like, I'll buy it.

I wish I could buy everything I like. But it's not possible (Yoska is poor). For the record, I'm a fan of Silent Hill and MGS games but not so of Pokemon or Yu Gi Oh but I still bought DS - I think both handhelds has games which can appeal people of the same taste.

If having different base developers and different software means there's no competition… then PS2 and Cube aren't competing neither, nor PSX and N64 and so on. And I can't agree that because I see the software, the games, as the main mean to compete here.