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    • Taleran
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      Thanks to British terror suspects plot to blow up airlines with liquid explosives, resulting in

      THE BANNING OF THE BRINGING OF ANY TYPE OF LIQUID BY PASSENGERS ONTO A PLANE…....

      U.S. authorities banned the carrying of liquids onto flights after the arrest of 24 people in an alleged plot to blow up U.S.-bound planes using explosives disguised as drinks and other common products.

      WTF…..
      http://www.cnn.com/2006/TRAVEL/08/10/terror.passengers.ap/index.html/

      ARGH…...I'm too angry at this to post everything I want to right now

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        The terrorist have won.

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          I heard about this before. It isn't that bad. At least they have a reason to do it.

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            @nguyen:

            I heard about this before. It isn't that bad. At least they have a reason to do it.

            yes and when people start hiding bombs up their asses they'll have reason to check all the passengers asses when they enter aswell

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                Yeah this is pretty much stupid. I hope it doesnt last.

                "John Cox died to day after drinking some exploding water in a plane today. May he rest in peace."

                Can you actually see that happening. Oh no water is gonna blow us up

                _ Originally Posted by mr.allsunday

                Nice job jumping on the bandwagon there Aethos, I can only wish I was as cool as you_

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                  It only takes one person with a serious medical condition to die on the planes for them to change the new 'policy'.

                  However, by then the terrorists will have banned 1091312098 other items that you can't take on the plane.

                  Next you won't be able to take condoms, which sucks if you're in the Mile High club…

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                  • Taleran
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                    @joekido:

                    Ahhhh, Things are getting to complex here. Looks like fligthers will be so thristy for the whole trip thanks to shitty terrorist so bent on blowing up planes. Thanks a lot terrorist, what's next? Making explosive food? Hiding bombs in underwear? Want to make a thristy, hungry, naked passagers? Go for it ya fucken idiots, do it for your stupid Allah so ya can meet 100 ugly-ass wife after you die

                    I remamber a terrorist hid a bomb in his shoes before, now they are doing it with liquid and next is food, pager, game device, books, clothes, pen, watch, suitcase, pants, underwear, box, cell phone, hats, hearing aid, headphone, music box, glasses, socks, pins, comb, purse, kunnel, everything and turn airplanes into a cockpit full of naked passagers with nothing, hungry, thristy and bored.

                    Thanks a fucking lot ya stupid terrorist, I wish you were never born to this day.

                    that basically sums it up

                    these people break the law so inventing more laws doesn't stop them, its like saying that Gun Controls laws actually stop criminals from getting weapons its laughable

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                    • captain usopp
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                      I don't think it's that bad. They have drinks for you on the plane. I'd rather know I'm safe. And the terrorists didn't win. The plane didn't blow up, and they were arrested.
                      lol I'm teasing jango now, cause I woke up and heard this right away, over in canada, and he's in britain and knew nothing about it. 😛

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                      • Taleran
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                        doesn't this also damage the shops / stores that operate in airports? thy probably make good money on people buying drinks to avoid the ludicrious prices of drinks they sell on flight

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                        • Cr4zy
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                          I don't know whats so bad about not bringing liquids on the plane. I can survive. Also, if you need something to drink that's grape-y or some fruity tropical taste, bring some Kool-Aid mix or something. OMG MY WATER AND GEL! I CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT USING IT ON THE PLANE! AND I NEED THAT SPECIFIC WATER!

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                            Originally posted by joekido the Second.
                            Go for it ya fucken idiots, do it for your stupid Allah so ya can meet 100 ugly-ass wife after you die

                            I am a muslim living in England and of course I don't agree with these bastard terrorists. All of the muslims aren't like those idiots trying to blow up planes. This is a disgrace to all the normal muslims living in England, I too feel angry at what these people are doing.

                            There was no need for you to insult our God**.** Instead insult the terrorists.

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                              The worst part about stuff like this (besides me not being able to bring water on my flight tomorrow while I enjoy the latest one piece with my cousin) is that it only serves to reinforce negative stereotypes of muslims.

                              Extremists are NOT = all Muslims. However by committing acts like this extremists further blind hatred for a whole group of people who are 99% not out to kill us. Waaaay to go.

                              Daily grind got you down?

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                                a friend of mine once spent one hour with the cia because we was happily travelling around the US while his name barely sounded like the name of a known terrorist. lol.

                                other than that, it's pretty impressive that the english services managed to stop this, that would have been awful if it had happened. and bush would have declared war to a random muslim country once again, ahah.

                                it's already soooooooooooo much of a pain in the ass to enter in the US, so something more, something less, who cares?

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                                  originally posted by igalsfy
                                  it's pretty impressive that the english services managed to stop this,

                                  Thats true.

                                  But I can't belive people on this thread are complaining about the water, Don't they realize that thousands of innocent people could've died.

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                                    @TakeNoMe:

                                    There was no need for you to insult our God**.** Instead insult the terrorists.

                                    QFT stop being a racist asshole please.
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                                    Personally I think this ban is incredibly stupid, my father is diabetic and has heart problems, he needs water during long flights to take his medicine while waiting for the plane/at the airport/etc. He can't expect that he'll be on the plane/near an overpriced store/near a fountain in order to drink something if he's feeling like he'll faint.

                                    No liquids on planes, yea that'll stop terrorism, how about not fucking playing games with the middle east and minding your own business, I've never heard of a sane person attacking innocents of another nation if that nation has left his/her nation alone. Now attacking fellow citizens/neighbors/family I can understand, but people don't just commit acts of terrorism for shitz n gigglez

                                    Igalsfy: !!! No way, my friends father was held for 3 hours at the airoport because he has a TAN from cyprus and a beard on his way back to NY. How ridiculous has humanity gotten.

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                                    • igalsfy
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                                      @TakeNoMe:

                                      Thats true.

                                      But I can't belive people on this thread are complaining about the water, Don't they realize that thousands of innocent people could've died.

                                      well, people tend to only care about themselves and their little confort.

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                                        QFT stop being a racist asshole please.

                                        How am I being "a racist asshole" when I am a black muslim who was born in Saudi Arabia.
                                        I was telling that guy not to insult the God from my religion,
                                        SO TELL ME HOW AND WHO IS IT I AM BEING RACIST TO!!!!.

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                                        • TakinawaTonfa
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                                          @captain:

                                          I don't think it's that bad. They have drinks for you on the plane. I'd rather know I'm safe. And the terrorists didn't win. The plane didn't blow up, and they were arrested.

                                          Thank you for being the one person on this thread that isn't complaining. Honestly, whats preventing airlines now from handing out their own bottled water as per ones request?

                                          And for the record, Allah isn't the Muslim God, Allah is Muslim name for God, so he can't really be insulted without insulting every monotheistc faith out there.

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                                            Yeah, the banning of water brought by passengers into a plane will save the whole world and cancel all attempts from terrorists to blow up planes.

                                            Sure.

                                            The most interesting question to ask is : what's the next step ?

                                            To check all the passengers asses, like Taleran sarcastically said ?

                                            To bring some marine squads in every single flight ? (with guns of course, that's so clever and fun to start a gun-fire in a plane)

                                            Hmmm….....

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                                            • Caracal
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                                              @TakeNoMe:

                                              How am I being "a racist asshole" when I am a black muslim who was born in Saudi Arabia.
                                              I was telling that guy not to insult the God from my religion,
                                              SO TELL ME HOW AND WHO IS IT I AM BEING RACIST TO!!!!.

                                              I think he was saying:
                                              "I agree with what your saying TakeNoMe. We should all stop being racist."
                                              Or something along those lines.

                                              sigh After watching V for Vendetta my opinion towards terrorists changed slightly, mainly due to one quote from a behind the scene extra - "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter". However this has all changed to me having nothing but pure hatrid and dislike towards terrorists. Why must us, the innoncent people who have little to nothing to do with the issues outside our country have to suffer because of something a man I didn't even vote for decided to do?

                                              I will say this though, if I were to ever see a terrorist in the flesh threatoning the innocent, I will come down with Satan and all his brothers on them. If that terrorist has the right to threaton people then you know what, so do I and I am not a nice man when I'm angry.

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                                                @TakeNoMe:

                                                How am I being "a racist asshole" when I am a black muslim who was born in Saudi Arabia.
                                                I was telling that guy not to insult the God from my religion,
                                                SO TELL ME HOW AND WHO IS IT I AM BEING RACIST TO!!!!.

                                                Uh, he was saying "QFT", meaning quoted for truth. He was agreeing with you, and told THE OTHER DUDE (and anyone else) to not be racist.

                                                Edit: Wow I'm slow at responding, rofl.

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                                                  We have a right to complain. This goes way beyond convenience. It just goes to show there is no plausiblie way to fully check every flight for every possibility of attack. We only respond to the attempts already made, and this has what effect, making us feel more secure?

                                                  If the extremists try bringing miniature explosives that look like books, all books will be banned and they will come up with another method. Point is, we are one step behind, not ahead.

                                                  Daily grind got you down?

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                                                    Though knowing Chicgao was one of the targets I am kinda glad that this is stopped. They found all the guys right O.O

                                                    _ Originally Posted by mr.allsunday

                                                    Nice job jumping on the bandwagon there Aethos, I can only wish I was as cool as you_

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                                                      TakeNoMe, yes, that was a misunderstanding as I see it. "QFT" means "Quoted For Truth," in simple terms he agreed with you. So, if we could resolve that, guys?

                                                      … joekido will be dealt with accordingly. You have my promise there. Racism and racial generalizations will not be tolerated here.

                                                      insert Nazi attack from Corny here

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                                                        Guys, I'm hardly a frequent flyer, but I've done my fair share of it over the years, and I don't ever remember bringing my own beverage onboard, yet I've never died of dehydration. People with specific medical needs will not be denied things they need for their health, that's ludicrous to think otherwise. Quite frankly, when I'm six miles in the air in a metal tube, I'd prefer to be a little thirsty than have bombs going off. No, there's no 100% way of preventing it, but you use the knowledge you have to do the best you can. If there's a possibility that people are smuggling explosives in liquids and gels, I'd prefer to know that steps are being taken to drastically decrease that avenue, anyway. (<– had to watch United 93 a few too many times at her old job)

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                                                          @TakeNoMe:

                                                          Thats true.

                                                          But I can't belive people on this thread are complaining about the water, Don't they realize that thousands of innocent people could've died.

                                                          your flying in a plane during very unstable times in history, your taking a pretty big fucking chance I'd say

                                                          and people couldv'e died they didn't so lets mess with their rights now that they are alive…......yep that makes sense

                                                          by making new regulations that try to stop people who by definition break them

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                                                                I appologize TakeNoMe, I decided I would use the abbreviation "QFT" rather than typing out quoted for truth for once, and it backfired on me. My comment was in referance to JoeKidos racist comment, not your post.

                                                                Again I am sorry if I gave you the misconception of a verbal attack against you

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                                                                  Like have said once a famous actor in a crappy movie : "Why don't you just shove a leash up my ass ?"

                                                                  With a good leash in the ass, you can be sure than nobody mess around during a flight…..

                                                                  (don't laugh, that's the next step at this rate)

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                                                                    I find it awesome that the English security caught this, we never would've found it.

                                                                    Yeah, eventually we're going to be banning al kind of ridiculous things, this means I won't be able to take my precious Mello Yello onto planes anymore. T_T

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                                                                      @bevin:

                                                                      People with specific medical needs will not be denied things they need for their health, that's ludicrous to think otherwise.

                                                                      While yes, they would allow people with medical needs on board the plane, how long do you think it would take to find an Extremist with said medical needs, and switch his (or her) medicene with something more explosive? In my opinion it wouldn't take long, as there's bound to be a nice amount of people that would be willing to do that.

                                                                      And I found this last night, before posting in this topic, but was too lazy to post it. It's a satircal webcomic made after Bush's announcement of no liquids.

                                                                      And as a small disclaimer, I own nothing of this comic, just feeling that this needs to be passed on, if only to open peoples eyes.

                                                                      Click Me

                                                                      Edit: Decided to make it a link, as it stretched the board a little.

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                                                                        Its just a good thing they caught these assholes before any real damage was caused.

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                                                                          I honestly don't see how all of you are complaining. So you can't bring drinks on board. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN DRINKS. Secondly, war often changes its modes of fighting. If we restrain ourselves to allow an opening, we will regret it. The reason why we haven't had another accident on planes due to terrorists since 9/11 is because the terrorists are clearly choosing the correct time to strike. For, if they fail, months of training are wasted, and their objectives are not met, and that does not help their organization at all.

                                                                          Honesty, I feel that most of you are all overreacting.

                                                                          As for meds, what I hear is that companies, and right now as well, airports have devices to detect such chemicals.
                                                                          Of course, before these devices are truly perfected, then we'll have to wait. But the terrorists also must wait for their time to strike another big one again.

                                                                          Also, for those who are wondering about how liquid explosives work: http://science.howstuffworks.com/liquid-explosives.htm

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                                                                            @Mr.:

                                                                            I find it awesome that the English security caught this, we never would've found it.

                                                                            Yes, it's all well and good that British intelligence managed to stop it but we still cannot be sure that there was anything to stop.
                                                                            895 where arrested in the U.K. under the Terrorism Act since 2000, only 23 of those arrested where convicted, 496 where released without charge. I'm sure alot of people living in U.K.(maybe elsewhere) have heard of Jean Charles De Menezes.
                                                                            I am very weary of these people being released because of the fact that more and more pressure will be put on the police force for continuing blunders in cracking down on terrorism.

                                                                            I am all for cracking down of extremists and stopping these wrongly minded people commiting mass murder but I believe U.S.A, Britain and other 'Western' countries are stirring up more and more hatred from these extremists. The Iraq war angered people the world over, mainly generated in Middle Eastern Countries where alot of theses extremists are based. The 'western' countries getting involved in problems that these people don't believe concern the 'Western' world.

                                                                            Imagine if Belgium and Holland decided to get involved in a conflict. Do you think their people would listen if Pakistani officials starting appearing on the news saying 'Stop!', I doubt it.

                                                                            To come closer to reaching an end to all this, these Countries needs to stop thinking that they are the 'police' of the world. It induces more tension from areas that aren't fond of 'Western' countries in the first place. (of course this is just my opinion and I might not be fully up to speed with all the latest news).

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                                                                              I think the airports shouldve let the passengers go to the shipping counter to ship their non solid materials instead of dumping it away. I would hate to buy up to 100 dollars worth of higene products just because the air ports believe the items to be dangerous. At least reimburse the passengers or something but i guess it would create too much of a hassle….

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                                                                                while that's true that there have been incidents that crackdowns on terrorists have failed at times, There is reportedly at least one martyrdom tape that is signature of Al Qaeda terrorists.

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                                                                                  Yeah, and you can also repack your luggage. You're not allowed to bring liquids or gels in your CARRY ON luggage, but you can still have it in your checked luggage. Granted, stuff like shampoo tends to explode with the pressure changes and such, but I guess with the forewarning you can think a bit more before packing stuff.

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                                                                                    Who would be annoyed that people are looking out for your own safety?

                                                                                    It'll be a cold day in Hell before I damn someone for trying to save my ass.

                                                                                    Unless of course you want each liquid that goes onboard to be chemically tested. Which would cause delays. Which would cost more money. Which would shoot up ticket prices (again) and then everyone would be bitching about that.

                                                                                    No matter where you go, there you are.

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                                                                                      I actually like flying and to be honest, if it's your time to shake hands with the grim reaper, then it's your time because the terrorists will find a way to suicide bomb themselves as a way to annouce that they shouldn't be taken lightly. It doesn't matter weather it's the sane muslims or crazy christians. The terrorists will do whatever they can to complete their goals.

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                                                                                        @TakeNoMe:

                                                                                        I am a muslim living in England and of course I don't agree with these bastard terrorists. All of the muslims aren't like those idiots trying to blow up planes. This is a disgrace to all the normal muslims living in England, I too feel angry at what these people are doing.

                                                                                        There was no need for you to insult our God**.** Instead insult the terrorists.

                                                                                        Agreed. I'm a Muslim, too. Despite living in America, I'm still offended by what Joekido said. I hate terrorist, too.

                                                                                        Anyways, it's so stupid that just because some terrorists try to use liquid to blow up a plane means that we all have to suffer for it.

                                                                                        edit: I forgive you, Joekido.

                                                                                        Rappin' Chopper:

                                                                                        "Yo; I was a reindeer livin' out in 'da snow! But then this old geeza' doctor brought me into his home! After healin' my wounds, I felt real phat. Then, old docta' Hiruk gave me this blingin' hat! My family beat me, shunt me, but it's all tight. Because I'm doin' my doctor remedies all night. I look like freak with my Human Human fruit. But now I'm with some gangsta' pirates who like to steal loot! All the girls like my blue nose. Yeah; it's the way that I get the Record scratching. Usopp's the guy with all 'da glory. He's my main man with all his tight stories. Zolo's Santoryu skills are on ice. You betta' watch out, or you gonna get sliced! Sanji's the cook servin' up the main dish. Don't mess with him, unless that's your wish. Luffy's 'da captain with the straw hat! His Gum Gum skills are real real tight. Vivi's the princess of Alabasta. Now we gotta head there, and we betta' do it faster!"

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                                                                                          Next time, just take the train.

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                                                                                            OH SHIT!!, SORRY GUYS I HAD NO IDEA WHAT 'QFT' MEANT so that was a big misunderstanding. I'am really sorry about that Refii. That was good of you to apologize joekido.

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                                                                                              @Greg:

                                                                                              Who would be annoyed that people are looking out for your own safety?

                                                                                              It'll be a cold day in Hell before I damn someone for trying to save my ass.

                                                                                              this is damn scary thinking

                                                                                              SIDE NOTE: how do you know the average temperature of Hell?…....oh Snap I figured it out Greg is really Satan.....it all makes sense.

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                                                                                                I've had enough of it.

                                                                                                I just don't get the fascination with the concept of interfering with airplanes in flight. Both by the security agencies and the terrorists.

                                                                                                From a sheer mathematical standpoint, aren't there about a billion other places with greater population density that could be accessed and destroyed more readily?

                                                                                                Furthermore, terrorists, think about it. These people are already flying commercial airlines. There's nothing in the hell you're trying to send them to which can top that. XD XD XD

                                                                                                I think I want to open a new airline. It would cut out the security screenings entirely and pass the convinence and time saved to the customer.

                                                                                                "Come on down! 10 minutes prior to departure? Paying cash? We don't care! In full Hiruma outfit with fourteen guns hanging from your shoulder? You'll have to pay for a second ticket if the next guy can't fit!"

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                                                                                                  I feel sad for the people taking home or as gifts cases of wine that were thrown out (some even tried drinking it in line)

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                                                                                                    Well it could be worse. At least Americans didn't have over 125 cancelled flights in the last day AND you can still have hand lugage (I don't know if you really do or don't, I don't live there). And as usual, the President blames Muslims. You know, I think this is gonna turn into WW3. I mean, think about it. There are many simaliarties happening now which were the start of WW2. One religion being shown as evil even though they aren't and important people brainwashing the average person into believing the crap they spur from thier mouths. Also, bombs being on the "bad" guys country to stop them from thier "evil" doings. At this rate, the third War will start within a year, maybe two if we're lucky

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                                                                                                      I just got a scary thought…

                                                                                                      Could a pill, a medication be made that someone can take and mix with a adverage drink from the plane in their stomech and cause themself to explode?

                                                                                                      And if so, would that even do any real damage seeing how it would have to blow through a person first. Probably just make a big mess and scar the passengers forever.

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                                                                                                        Next time, just take the train.

                                                                                                        Over the Atlantic Ocean? o_o We need Puffing Tom.

                                                                                                        And I am horrified as much as everyone else, but can't help but think that these terrorists are doing it for a reason. Does their religion teach them to kill people in honour? I'm not ready to condemn them without knowing a motive.

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