If you havn't seen it, you havn't seen it.
Ridiculous. That's as elitist a comment as I've seen you say. Ever.
I'm not going to make the assertion that, "well, people make assumptions all the time about a series, therefore it is OK to do that". What I'm saying is, I've had a taste of Bebop and I've been around the block before. I'm pretty sure the series isn't what people say it is, and even it it was it's not my cup of tea anyway. My opinion could change, of course, but I'm pretty sure I'm right in this and everyone else here is just influenced by nostalgia.
Getting me to watch twenty six episodes of a series I don't think is very good, only with the possible result of me saying, "well, I was right, it wasn't that great" will just have the people here go, "GTFO troll".
Now that's plain rude.
I still haven't forgotten SetaGinny threatening to ban people for bashing Eva simply because they "didn't see it when it was innovative" or something along those lines. It's that kind of stubborness that really grates me, especially when people don't realize it.
This has very little to do with Bebop and more to do with how little patience I have for people talking about things they havn't seen like they…well, have. You went beyond simply saying "Eh, dosen't look like my cup of tea" into thesis mode, which was really just pointless. Especially musing about the ending as no big deal.
It's not a big deal, in fact it seems like a rather forced, rushed ending.
I'm not denying its overated. But simply writing something off as nostolgia loved, or flat out saying thats the reason its held in high regard at all (lol Tonykun) is every bit a non-arguement as my first response.
I'm not writing if off because I think people are too nostalgic, I think the praise for Bebop even now is excessive because people are too unwilling to write off their nostalgia. When I see the series, I'll evaluate it for how entertaining it is, not because it was "innovative" or "mah first animu" or something along those lines, which apparently some people consider "essential" to enjoying the show.
No offense to the fans, but if Bebop has to be my first show for me to enjoy it, then frankly it's not worth watching right now. Might as well be Pokemon or Flint the Time Detective or something along those lines.
Its Ad Hominem crap unless youv'e got actual mass sightings of seeing 20 somethings re-watch it and be dissapointed.
I frequent another, calmer forum than AP and there are five or so regulars in the anime category. One saw Bebop when it came out, the other three saw it last year, the year before, and three years prior, respectively. None of them were nearly as impressed as the first, who went out of his way to go to Canada to have Wendee Lee sign his DVD box of the first season (she was visiting a convention there).
Notice the disparity?
The biggest problem is your classing it with FLCL and EVA in the "bullshit psuedo intellectual vague religous symbols deeep" hype catagory.
That wasn't my intent, and I'm sorry. I just meant to contrast it with something "shallow" that doesn't touch on character development.
Maybe we should use DEEP to refer to what you're talking about. :happy: