What do you think Aokiji did to be one of the top people in the marines i think he had something to do with Gold Roger
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Well, I guess being a Marine & possessing an immensely powerful Logia class ability, might've helped him along the way. He doesn't exactly strike me as the reliable, dedicated type, and he seems to be a bit of a rogue, who does things his own way, like Smoker.
So I'd say, his power & his commitment to the government, is probably what lead to him being given the rank of Supreme Admiral.
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nothing related to capturing Gold Roger maybe he helped or even better caught him
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i like aokiji. i think his devil fruit is the most powerfull and the most dangerous. it can trap you in ice and there's nothing you can do if you get caught in his ice
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What I wonder about him and the other two admiral´s is whether they will just be in the same boat as the marine meaning that the Straw Hats are just escaping from them or will they be more the Shichibukai meaning that the Straw Hats have to defeat them. Well, only time will tell. :)
Edit: Just a question I have that I think would fit in this thread. Are Aokiji and the other two admiral´s one of the big forces of the Grand Line like the shichibukai? Just curious. :)
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well i think yes because they are very powerful and take out the weak pirates or whom they crose path with as you can see Robin wanted for 79,000,000 was trembeling i just cant imagine the power that is behind such evil
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Originally posted by Ivotas@Mar 27 2005, 01:12 AM
Edit: Just a question I have that I think would fit in this thread. Are Aokiji and the other two admiral´s one of the big forces of the Grand Line like the shichibukai? Just curious. :)
[snapback]21049[/snapback]I would think that the three Supreme Admirals would be well beyond the level of Shichibukai, or at least of more importance to the Government.
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Originally posted by Battle Franky@Mar 26 2005, 07:28 PM
I would think that the three Supreme Admirals would be well beyond the level of Shichibukai, or at least of more importance to the Government.
[snapback]21116[/snapback]Erm, does well beyond mean above or behind the Shichibukai? Sorry for this question but this is a moment where my english stars getting very bad. :(
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Originally posted by devil^^kid_@Mar 26 2005, 07:44 PM
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[snapback]21132[/snapback]Thanks. :) Actually it should have been obvious by reading the rest of the post. Oh the shame.
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Yeh, above in power or importance, maybe 'well beyond' was a bit of an exaggeration, seeing as we don't know how a Admiral vs. Shichibukai fight would work out.
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….what I don't understand is if Croc knew that the marines had powerful supreme admirals who could come wipe him out or better yet a buster call could be sent at him, why would he turn his back on the goverment and try to conquer an entire country?
I'm postive a stealthy guy like Mihawk has gathered plenty of info about how the world works. He snuck into the meeting room undetected when the top marine guy was there as well as other Schichi Bukai. He is friends with Shanks and probably other top notch pirates and other authority figures in the world. So I'm sure he knows about the supreme admirals and I'm sure Croc knew. Regardless of them not knowing it was croc.....they still would have attacked him.
Unless did croc think he was going to pretend to kill Mr. 0 and then be given the country to rule by the goverment? or was it all one big ploy by the goverment to take over alabasta so they could could find the weapon?
It's all very confusing.....
On another note what if Eneru was a former supreme admiral?
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I think there are three things could explain that:
1. A Buster Call mainly involves ten ships. The kingdom was in the middle of the desert.
2. Crocodile probably couldn't be beaten in the desert.
3. With the weapon, Croc would gain unbelievable power. Probably enough to wipe out many government forces.
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Originally posted by Buccaneer@Mar 26 2005, 04:08 PM
**I think there are three things could explain that:1. A Buster Call mainly involves ten ships. They wuldn't work well in the desert.
2. In the desert, Crocodile was just about invincible.
3. With the weapon, Croc would gain unbelievable power. Probably enough to wipe out many government forces.
[snapback]21188[/snapback]**But it wasn't there and that threw a wrench into his plans….ok now I gotcha. Sorta like in Naruto when Akatsuki attacked Gaara lol
Only Crocodile wouldn't protect anyone but himself.
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As Buccaneer already has mentioned it, I do believe that this is what he needen the Pluton for. I mean if Crocodile was the most powerful man in the world then he would have no needs for such a powerful weapons. After all he seems to be the weakest of the Shichibukai so he would have had a problem with them too. Not to mention the other powerful guys who are around like Whitebeard, Shanks or Dragon. Crocodile is pretty much aware of his own power´s limit that´s why he needed a weapon to dominate all the ones who are more powerful then him.
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Not to mention gathering ridiculously strong people to help him out and handle his dirty work.
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1. A Buster Call mainly involves ten ships. The kingdom was in the middle of the desert."Well, the Marines could've sailed up the Sandora & deployed a huge amount of troops to Alubarna, if they couldn't engage Croc/Baroque works in a naval battle. Though, I don't think a 'Buster Call' is only intended to be called just for a huge naval battle situation.
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Originally posted by MB.@Mar 26 2005, 10:25 PM
Not to mention gathering ridiculously strong people to help him out and handle his dirty work.
[snapback]21203[/snapback]Precisely! He remained a "noble" Shichibukai while BaroqueWorks did all the dirty work for him. If his plan would have worked out well he would have manipulated the people of Alabasta that way that it would appear that they forced him to become their king and that he didn´t really want it. Crocodile is not stupid.
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But as they said with the weapon crocodile will be 10 times stronger making lots of people fear him hence Aokiji coming and defeating croc because Aokiji is 11 times already strong :P
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Originally posted by devil^^kid_@Mar 26 2005, 10:48 PM
But as they said with the weapon crocodile will be 10 times stronger making lots of people fear him hence Aokiji coming and defeating croc because Aokiji is 11 times already strong :P
[snapback]21235[/snapback]I don´t know though Aokiji seems to be very powerful I don´t know if he wouldn´t have difficulties with Crocodile. I mean if it is snowing outside and the streets are frozen what do you throw out to make it possible to drive again, sand. So maybe Crocodile could be to Aokiji what Luffy is to Enel. Though I think that in general it would be like throwing a sandcorn at an iceberg. But only in Alabasta itself I think Crocodile would have a chance against Aokiji.
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Sand can be frozen…..it's a matter of how cold can Kiji go.
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See thats the difference of possesing a devil fruit and mastering a devil fruit. If you had a devil fruit then you would be a very dangourous man MB
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Originally posted by Ivotas@Mar 26 2005, 10:12 AM
**What I wonder about him and the other two admiral´s is whether they will just be in the same boat as the marine meaning that the Straw Hats are just escaping from them or will they be more the Shichibukai meaning that the Straw Hats have to defeat them. Well, only time will tell. :)Edit: Just a question I have that I think would fit in this thread. Are Aokiji and the other two admiral´s one of the big forces of the Grand Line like the shichibukai? Just curious. :)
[snapback]21049[/snapback]**Yeah mybe. I think the 3 Admiral may be stonger the the Shichibukai
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Originally posted by MB.@Mar 26 2005, 03:04 PM
Sand can be frozen…..it's a matter of how cold can Kiji go.
[snapback]21262[/snapback]I agree
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Of course sand can be frozen that´s why I said that overall Aokiji would beat down Crocodile. But as I said it´s all a mater of where they fight. Let me try a different approach, one single sandcorn wouldn´t melt an ice mountian and one single ice cube wouldn´t freeze a desert. So it indeed COULD be possible that Crocodile beats Aokiji in Alabasta.
But seriously everywhere else Crocodile wouldn´t have a chance against Aokiji. Just my opinion.
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Originally posted by Ivotas@Mar 26 2005, 03:14 PM
**Of course sand can be frozen that´s why I said that overall Aokiji would beat down Crocodile. But as I said it´s all a mater of where they fight. Let me try a different approach, one single sandcorn wouldn´t melt an ice mountian and one single ice cube wouldn´t freeze a desert. So it indeed COULD be possible that Crocodile beats Aokiji in Alabasta.But seriously everywhere else Crocodile wouldn´t have a chance against Aokiji. Just my opinion.
[snapback]21276[/snapback]**It would be nice if Oda has Aokiji figth against Crocodile
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Originally posted by joekido the Second@Mar 26 2005, 11:16 PM
It would be nice if Oda has Aokiji figth against Crocodile
[snapback]21280[/snapback]Trust me, sooner or later we will have a fight game where we can choose between these two characters. OK this is not as good as if it would have happened in the manga but hey, it´s better then nothing. :D
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In the game there are lots of moves i never got to see in the anime whats up with that?
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Well I think it would be so that all character´s would have equall chances in combat. Just a guess. :)
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Thats fine by me :D
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If the Admiral Supremes are stronger then the Shichibukai… that'll seriously suck.. :blink:
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One piece grand battle combat rush has both of them …i think Aokiji is more useful ...there isn't any show of ,which beat down which,just see how you use them ......we have to see it by sience if you wanna tell by Ice vs Sand ...but i think Ice would win ...Sand will be frozen
actually i wanted to see Shanks vs Mihawk lol ...i don't wanna watch logia type fighting .....Swordman vs Swordman are most fun to watch ..lol
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Aokiji well win against anybody thats why i want tro see how luffy well beat him
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Originally posted by Monkey.D.Luffy@Mar 27 2005, 07:22 AM
If the Admiral Supremes are stronger then the Shichibukai… that'll seriously suck.. :blink:
[snapback]21469[/snapback]You know after I was sleeping and thinking the entire night about this I begin to think that the three Admirals and the Shichibukai are actually equal to each other. Not by comparison man to man but by comparison 3 to 7.
It would actually make sense with the entire balance of force thing that got mentioned after Crocodile´s defeat. I was always wondering why or at least what is the balance of force and I think I have it now.
I think those five wise guys (don´t know their japanese name) need a balanance of "lackeys". I think that both the three admirals and the Shichibukai are strong enough to overthrow the World Government. So on the one hand they have the Shichibukai that make sure that the three Admirals don´t go rogue and on the other hand the Admirals as marine officer´s make sure that the pirates that are the Shichibukai keep cool. The one party is more concerned with the other and vice versa instead of being able to plot against the World Government. At least I think that is the way the World Governments wants it to be. Of course Crocodile already proved them wrong and I`m sure Doflamingo is the next one.
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nice point of you. That is a very reasonable answer. Nowonder you thought of it alone because its just great :D
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Originally posted by MB.@Mar 26 2005, 04:03 PM
I'm postive a stealthy guy like Mihawk has gathered plenty of info about how the world works. He snuck into the meeting room undetected when the top marine guy was there as well as other Schichi Bukai. He is friends with Shanks and probably other top notch pirates and other authority figures in the world. So I'm sure he knows about the supreme admirals and I'm sure Croc knew. Regardless of them not knowing it was croc…..they still would have attacked him.
[snapback]21185[/snapback]isn't mihawk is shicibukai too? that's why he can go to the meeting room?
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Originally posted by interpol+Mar 28 2005, 02:19 PM–>QUOTE(interpol @ Mar 28 2005, 02:19 PM)
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Yes Mihawk is a Shichibukai. The only reason why everybody was surprised about his appearance is that I guess he didn´t announce that he was comming while I think Doflamingo and Bear did it.
