check this out
http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/28372/Water_As_Fuel.html?autoplay=true
i just wanted to bring it here and see if anyone else knows about it
any thoughts to this?
check this out
http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/28372/Water_As_Fuel.html?autoplay=true
i just wanted to bring it here and see if anyone else knows about it
any thoughts to this?
you know what i think? that's really cool…but the only problem is that were running out of water as it is, ths isn't going to help it much....but it really is something to think about, ne?
Using water as fuel the way the guy was doing it in the video would create two by products. Hydrogen gas, and Oxygen gas. Hydrogen is used in fuel cell cars to combine with oxygen gas to power your car. It's already been done, and there is a hydrogen fuel station in Iceland. The by product of Hydrogen fuel cell cars is guess what? Water.
Ritsuka, there is one thing I think you need to understand. First of all: The world is NOT running out of water. It is, however, running out of drinkable water, but no problem, modern inventions can filter out anything harmful.
Also, unlike gasoline, water is a renewable resource, if we run out, we just make ourselves some more! Gasoline, oil, however, is not renewable, which means at some point, we will run out. From there we will have to wait several hundreds of thousands of years to get enough oil to have what's equivalent of what we have today.
The very small amount of oil left on this measly planet are barely enough to last another 40 years, yet people are using it like it'll last forever!
Water, which can be broken down through electrolysis, can be used to power cars by combining the H2 and O2 molecules created from the electrolysis of the water, to recreate some of the water. Now, not all of the water can be recreated, but most of it can. Using water as a fuel source is the most practical option right now, seeing as how little oil we have left.
blinks okay Mr. Scientist takes us to "Confidence Bashing part 2!!! giggles wow, you really know what you're talking about, don't you? that's admirable…
Yeah, I guess I kind of do, I saw a show about it on PBS. 8D However, people wouldn't be pumping water into their fuel cell tanks. They would be either putting in a hydrogen tank, or a chip the size of a hockey puck that is laced hydrogen. The fuel pump in Iceland pumps hydrogen into a pressure tank.
I'd personally rather have the chip, because hydrogen under high pressure can be explosive, but then again, gasoline is flammable at normal temperatures, and when there's enough, it can be explosive.
yup, yup uh-huh nods and pretends she understands all of it
So if this is such a great idea..why don't they do it? Although it would put thousands and thousands out of business. Not only would it get rid of supplyers but it would also get rid of gas stations. Sure, they COULD just become water stations but, people wouldn't need them. Own a hose? Fill it up yourself for most likely cheaper.
Using water as fuel the way the guy was doing it in the video would create two by products. Hydrogen gas, and Oxygen gas. Hydrogen is used in fuel cell cars to combine with oxygen gas to power your car. It's already been done, and there is a hydrogen fuel station in Iceland. The by product of Hydrogen fuel cell cars is guess what? Water.
Ritsuka, there is one thing I think you need to understand. First of all: The world is NOT running out of water. It is, however, running out of drinkable water, but no problem, modern inventions can filter out anything harmful.
Also, unlike gasoline, water is a renewable resource, if we run out, we just make ourselves some more! Gasoline, oil, however, is not renewable, which means at some point, we will run out. From there we will have to wait several hundreds of thousands of years to get enough oil to have what's equivalent of what we have today.
The very small amount of oil left on this measly planet are barely enough to last another 40 years, yet people are using it like it'll last forever!
Water, which can be broken down through electrolysis, can be used to power cars by combining the H2 and O2 molecules created from the electrolysis of the water, to recreate some of the water. Now, not all of the water can be recreated, but most of it can. Using water as a fuel source is the most practical option right now, seeing as how little oil we have left.
Ah! So its a Mystery Liquid! shot
I'd rather have water to drink than to run a car.
The current issue with using hydrogen as I see it is this. It costs more energy to create the hydrogen than you can get out of it. I'm all for eventually switching to cars that use it, but it can't be overnight. And we need to adress the issue of making hydrogen without using as much energy.
Water as fuel is nothing new but oil companies rule the world so as long as there is oil no alternative fuel source will be succesful , that would ruin them. That's common knowledge.
Well, I'm curious about this, what happens to all that other stuff in water?
@yokaiforte:
Well, I'm curious about this, what happens to all that other stuff in water?
The only stuff used would be the hydrogen and oxygen. The rest is unusable.
The only stuff used would be the hydrogen and oxygen. The rest is unusable.
Exactly. what happens to the other particles?
@yokaiforte:
Exactly. what happens to the other particles?
Well, chances are they're filtered out before anything would get into your car, because all you would put in your car would be plain Hydrogen gas, oxygen is all around us, so we'd just take oxygen from the air.
The molecules that don't get used are just waste anyways, nothing important. Same stuff that's in rain.
There is no way this is not a hoax.
This is probably an April Fools broadcast, I'd say.
I'm not 100% sure, but I'm about 80% sure it's a hoax.
well, whether the page is a hoax or not, they really have made a car that runs on water. They are hoping to have them ready for consumers by 2012, if I'm correct.
btw, they already made cars that run off of oil and greese, so i don't see it far fetched to do it with water.
If you think about it; we'd better start using a new power source soon. So by the time we run out of oil the water power will at least be semi-well distributed. Still, since oil companies pretty much own our souls (they still only have 46.7% of mine the other 54.3% belongs to Oda, but they're getting their) I find it unlikely that we'll switch until the Government realizes that we've drained the oil reserves on our poor Earth.
That was one well-made hoax indeed.
Water being converted to any other configuration than HOH would instantly break down. The flame thing from the beginning was rather nonsensical from a chemistry and physics standpoint (and the rest was funny to watch)
ADHD boy says "Ah! It's a mystery fuel!"
I didn't even see the link to the movie. I'm so stupid. :P Oh well, I supposed I put in my two cents anyway.
@igetownd: yeh, the flame thing made my eyebrows raise.
@CaptainUsopp: http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Earth_2012 the water-powered car project recently died due to lack of funding.
Presumably it was using electrolysis to produce hydrogen that was then the fuel source (which is different than trying to use electrolysis directly as a fuel source).
Using oil and grease as power sources isn't difficult. A fuel is something that can put out energy (i.e., it's exothermic). Your basic test is: will this burn and make a lot of heat once you give it a little activation energy (such as a light from a match)? Gasoline, oil, and grease will all burn and make a lot of heat (the trouble is with impurities.) Hydrogen gas? Yeah, that'll burn. Water? Not so much.
The reason these things burn is that they're reacting with the oxygen in the atmosphere– oxidizing-- which is an exothermic reaction.
*edit: of course an exception is atomic fuel, which isn't a chemical reaction, so heating it up isn't necessarily going to start anything. It requires neutrons for activation.
Actually if you google up HHO, it's real.
The gas is hydrogen interacting with oxygen in such a way that hydrogen is more stable and less reactive. Problem is: it can only be produced on demand, and is impractical for storage. That means that the gas can only be produced when needed or else it'll degenerate to regular H2 and O2. If it can't be stored, people might as well use pure electricity for propulsion.
Just because it's on spikedhumor.com doesn't mean it's fake. Although the flame thing is weird. It's normal water one moment, then uber-flame the next (probably triggered). Talk about bizzare physics.
http://hytechapps.com/technology/index.html
Oh, funky-ass!
what this site says actually makes a bit more sense to me… it's not a flame that doesn't burn, it's a stream of gas that only produces a reaction on contact to certain target materials... and not energy that's "produced by electrolysis", but a gas that's produced by electrolysis. So weird.
I eat my words. ^_^