Yeah.
Love the the exploration in a truly alien world in the first ep. My favourite bit is in one of the later episodes where they really have it out as to whether they leave.
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Oh man. It's been so long since I saw The Daleks, just about when I started my viewing of Classic Who and, with me watching Curse of Fenric now, it's about to come to an end.
Anyway, yeah, it's a really solid introduction to the Daleks (though we never did get a payoff for that Dalek left under the sheet, did we?). And if you liked that, I can assure you The Dalek Invasion of Earth is even better (dat Hartnell speech).
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Oh man. It's been so long since I saw The Daleks, just about when I started my viewing of Classic Who and, with me watching Curse of Fenric now, it's about to come to an end.
Anyway, yeah, it's a really solid introduction to the Daleks (though we never did get a payoff for that Dalek left under the sheet, did we?). And if you liked that, I can assure you The Dalek Invasion of Earth is even better (dat Hartnell speech).
Sheet ? Must have forgotten, I did watch five peisodes of it yesterday and the other two just today.
What do you think of Fenric btw ?
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Oh man. It's been so long since I saw The Daleks, just about when I started my viewing of Classic Who and, with me watching Curse of Fenric now, it's about to come to an end.
Hope you're watching the director's cut!
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@No:
Sheet ? Must have forgotten, I did watch five peisodes of it yesterday and the other two just today.
It was a cliffhanger after they escaped from the Dalek prison.
What do you think of Fenric btw ?
Only seen the first episode so far. I'll post a full review of the Seventh Doctor serials tomorrow.
Hope you're watching the director's cut!
Huh?
I'm watching whatever version Netflix has.
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Huh?
Mark Ayres did a special edition of the serial for the dvd range, which moved scenes around to make more sense, added 10 minutes of discarded footage which again made the serial more coherent, new special effects & redone audio.
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Yeah, that's just an amazing serial all-round, I should watch that again when I have time. And Pokémon is about to deplete a whole lot of that time. Dissertation notwithstanding.
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http://io9.com/exclusive-trailer-for-the-newly-found-doctor-who-story-1443664254
Episode 3 of Web of Fear remains lost.
The entirety of The Enemy of the World has been recovered.
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Eleven Doctor Who episodes were discovered (nine of which have not been seen for 46 years) by Philip Morris, director of Television International Enterprises Archive, by tracking records of tape shipments made by the BBC to Africa for transmission. Morris says, “The tapes had been left gathering dust in a store room at a television relay station in Nigeria. I remember wiping the dust off the masking tape on the canisters and my heart missed a beat as I saw the words ‘Doctor Who’. When I read the story code I realized I’d found something pretty special.”
Complicating things since 2009.
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I have the biggest grin on my face right now
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http://io9.com/exclusive-trailer-for-the-newly-found-doctor-who-story-1443664254
Episode 3 of Web of Fear remains lost.
The entirety of The Enemy of the World has been recovered.
Pity about Web of Fear still missing one episode… Still though, on the whole that's pretty good. And hey, if there's only one missing episode, perhaps we might get an animated version of it at least? And in any case, hey, suddenly over half of Troughton's second season is accounted for! Not too shabby a discovery, in any case. Also, and I guess this might be due to the lower resolution of the trailer, but the quality is looking pretty fantastic. Certainly better than the "The Beginning"-boxset I bought a few months back.
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@Vegard:
Pity about Web of Fear still missing one episode… Still though, on the whole that's pretty good. And hey, if there's only one missing episode, perhaps we might get an animated version of it at least? And in any case, hey, suddenly over half of Troughton's second season is accounted for! Not too shabby a discovery, in any case.
They've reconstructed the episode with existing stills and the original soundtrack that was recorded by viewers back when the episode originally aired.
Complicating things since 2009.
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They've reconstructed the episode with existing stills and the original soundtrack; basically the same way London After Midnight was "brought back".
Yeah, I saw that. Still, does that not go for every missing episode of Classic Who? Granted most of those reconstructions are fanmade, but still. And in any case I just find the idea of watching an animated recreation to be a bit more appealing than watching a slideshow of still frames with the occasional caption explaining stuff that these still frames don't make apparent.
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00FRL72EE/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1634&creative=19450&creativeASIN=B00FRL72EE
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Doctor-Who-Web-Fear-DVD/dp/B00FRL73G6/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1381474074&sr=1-1&keywords=B00FRL73G6|B00FRL72EEPreordered. Great news they're getting them out on dvd so quickly, otherwise I might have had to purchase an online version, which I didn't really want to do.
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Great to hear, and it's even better news that a serial with all but one episode was completed, isn't that the first time that's happened since the turn of the century ?
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Only like, 8 old episodes have been found in the last 20+ years… now 9 all at once? Pretty awesome. (And hey, the first Brigadier!)
Its also somewhat implied that there are more coming but that has to wait for... something or another. Negotiations, product scheduling, restoration, BBC being secretive for no real reason... whatever. Ho much of that is folks being hopeful and reading too much into what the BBC says or doesn't say... no telling.
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@RobbyBevard:
Only like, 8 old episodes have been found in the last 20+ years… now 9 all at once? Pretty awesome. (And hey, the first Brigadier!)
Its also somewhat implied that there are more coming but that has to wait for... something or another. Negotiations, product scheduling, restoration, BBC being secretive for no real reason... whatever. Ho much of that is folks being hopeful and reading too much into what the BBC says or doesn't say... no telling.
It's a total of 11 episodes in two years so yeah, pretty amazing.
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The word is that negotiations are tricky, and these are the first they've gotten back.
Doing them piecemeal like this has the added benefit of being able to hype people up for them and get them to buy everything at once, which would be a lot trickier if they dumped everything rumoured to have been found at once.But even if this is the end of it, it's two of the best serials we could have hoped to have gotten, which is pretty great.
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Just finished The Edge of Destruction. I did like this, even if I think that, even if we disregard Susan's initial hostility before everything went nuts as a result of getting clonked on the head, the question is: why did nobody question Ian's mode of expression in the first episode ? The guy literally looks like he's high, he talks slowly, his responses are odd and not thought out and he generally seems not all there. When they brought up a possible pressence I assumed that's what made him act like that, but that wasn't the case at all, but still a bit baffled how no one found his behaviour odd for a college professor.
Still, the ending is so far the first time I felt the First Doctor really growing on me as a character, as he was a bit too self centered and thickheaded in the previous two stories and him realising how much of an ass he's been this episode really did make that to happen.
! Genesis of the Daleks
Pyramids of Mars
City of Death
The Pilot
The Three Doctors
Robots of Death
The Daleks
The Brain of Morbius
The Edge of Destruction
100 000 BC
The Face of Evil
Spearhead from Space
Day of the Daleks
The Curse of Peladon
The Mutants
The Daemons
The Silurians
Inferno
Colony in Space
The Green Death
The Ambassadors of Death
Revenge of the Cybermen
Terror of the Zygons
The Sea Devils
Ghost Light
The Greatest Show in the Galaxy
Dragonfire
The Curse of Fenric
The Sontaran Experiment
Planet of Evil
The Time Warrior
The Time Monster
The Claws of Axos
The Mind of Evil
Terror of the Autons
Meglos
Vengeance on Varos
Carnival of Monsters
Timelash
The Creature from the Pit
Happiness Patrol
Time and the Rani
Silver Nemesis
Delta and the Bannermen
Paradise Towers
Nightmare of Eden
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From memory Whitaker wrote it in two or three days, can't remember why though - possibly unearthly went an ep or two short or something.
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From memory Whitaker wrote it in two or three days, can't remember why though - possibly unearthly went an ep or two short or something.
I assume it was just a way to cut corners, at least based off of what the folks at Shadowlocked speculate.
http://www.shadowlocked.com/2010020181/reviews/doctor-who-complete-reviews-edge-of-destruction.html Admittedly a serial with only your main actors and no exterior sets would probably be rather cheap to make in comparisson to The Daleks for example.
I remember seeing an old VHS bonus video thing on youtube recently where the creative team back from the very begining talked about the production costs and I was a bit sad to find none of them could give an exact figure, or even an estimate beyond "maybe hundreds of Pounds".
Also, bit of a sidenote, looking up some info on missing episodes I found out there was a football based soap opera (United !) the BBC ran for 147 episodes and there's not one episode recovered. Really wish that changes cause I'm really curious what the hell this could have been like.
Edit: Also found out most of it's creative staff was the same as Doctor Who.
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Could well be, daleks was before it and marco polo was next and they would have cost quite a bit.
But he did well for such a quickly written ep - we got that great speech about the birth of a sun, and the creation of the idea that the tardis was sentient.
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@No:
Just finished The Edge of Destruction.
LOL. Did you catch Hartnell flubbing his lines?
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I'll see you on the dark side of the moon] -
@RobbyBevard:
Only like, 8 old episodes have been found in the last 20+ years… now 9 all at once? Pretty awesome. (And hey, the first Brigadier!)
Well, except the actual episode in which the Brigadier first appears just happens to be the one episode that's still missing…
Anyway, was just preordering the series 7 BluRay + Day of the Doctor yesterday, and figured that, hey, since they've announced these missing episodes anyway, and Enemy of the World seems to be slated to be released before Day of the Doctor does, I might as well throw that into the order as well. And I also ordered The Tenth Planet, for its historical significance + to show my support for their efforts to animate the missing episodes. Oh, and City of Death. Just 'cause.
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Finished the 7th Doctor's run.
! Of the three Doctors I've seen over the last few weeks, I think McCoy's is the hardest to pin down. I thought he was a fine Doctor, and he had a lot of great moments, but I don't think I can say he's one of my favorite Doctors. The thing is, I'm having trouble figuring out what he was all about. Davison's Doctor was refined and just. Baker's Doctor was manic and witty. McCoy's Doctor was….well, witty, eccentric, righteous, wise, contemplative, amiable, and all the usual traits of the Doctor, but I'm not sure there was anything that really made him stand out. It's almost like was amalgamation of all the previous Doctors, which, perhaps, is fitting since he was the last of the Classic Doctors. He had the wisdom and nurturing paternity of the earlier Doctors, as well as the energy and intensity of the later ones. Really, I guess you could say he was the sum of the Doctor's experiences. So yeah, maybe, to me, he wasn't the most distinct Doctor, but he was The Doctor. No more, no less. Good on ya McCoy.
! Time and the Rani - A pretty bad start for the 7th Doctor. The Rani's plan was just ridiculous and The Doctor did some really stupid stuff himself. One thing to this episode's credit is McCoy did a great job of making himself instantly likeable.
! Paradise Towers - Just an awful awful serial. Not a single thing in it made any sense and, of course, Richard Briers' acting was laughable.
! Delta and the Bannermen - Generic villain. Bland female lead. Rushed story. Painted baby. Bees, my god. Dumb as hell.
! Dragonfire - Finally a decent episode. It was great to see Glitz again, and we finally get rid of Mel and introduced Ace. And the villain was actually pretty cool (even if his defeat was kinda dumb). But, then again, it wasn't too terribly interesting or memorable.
! Remembrance of the Daleks - I liked it, but…not as much as I hoped I would. Everyone lauds this as being among the best, not only of McCoy's run, but all of Doctor Who. While I'll agree on the first part, and agree that it was a very solid and entertaining serial, it didn't grip in the same way other great serials have. Honestly, I felt it was kind of tedious at times and left me a little confused. Let me just say that if everyone else deems this a 10, I'd deem it an 8 or a 9.
! The Happiness Patrol - Apparently this a fairly polarizing serial, and I'd say I lean more on the forgiving side. But, then again, I'm not sure I can really call this a good serial. Let's just it was one of the better bad McCoy episodes. And yeah, Kandyman is too ridiculous not to be fun. Also, I'm not really that informed about British politics, so can anyone tell me exactly why people hate Margaret Thatcher so much?
! Silver Nemesis - Aside from one or two cool moments I liked, this was pretty bad. How did the Cybermen and Nazis know about the Nemesis? (the Nazis themselves seemed pretty pointless in general) And Peinforte's ranting was ridiculous.
! The Greatest Show in the Galaxy - Wow. I don't know what it was, but this episode seriously clicked with me. This is the most I've been engaged in a Doctor Who story since the 4th Doctor. Honestly, most of the time I'm pretty lax about getting to the next episode of a Who serial, but this first time in a while I couldn't wait to see what happened next. I guess I just love a good mystery that keeps you guessing to the end, and the interesting setting didn't hurt either. Admittedly, yes, the Gods of Ragnarok were kind of a weak payoff, and there are one or two plot points I wasn't sure about, but they're relatively minor complaints in what was an extremely engaging and entertaining story for me.
! Battlefield - Ah. Lethbridge Stewart's lash hoorah, and it's a darn good one to go out on. In addition to The Doctor and the Brigadier playing off each other as well as ever, it was just really cool seeing UNIT battling against medieval knights. Oh, and of course Stewart saves the world like a total badass. As usual, the plot leaves me more than a little confused, but I can forgive it (mostly).
! Ghost Light - My god these 7th Doctor serials are way too convoluted for their own good. This one especially. Well, okay, maybe it's not so much that this one was convoluted, but that it really needed an extra episode to flesh everything out. And, actually, yeah, it probably could've dropped one or two plot threads. I liked the tension built up in the first two episodes, but the last episode just left confused and kind of disappointed.
! The Curse of Fenric - A step up from Ghost Light, but ultimately still left me unclear on a few plot points (sorry Darkstorm, I didn't catch the director's cut. Maybe another day). Still, this was a pretty cool and engaging serial, and I really like the big reveal regarding Ace's backstory, which I think was a first for DW at the time.
! Survival - And so we finally get the last episode of Classic Who, and as far as finales go, I'd say it was pretty damn good. ….Well, okay, when it comes down to it, the story is pretty simple, and I'm really not sure what The Master's plan, or even goal, actually was. And if the planet was turning the inhabitants into savage Cheetah men, then how did the inhabitants become an intelligent and cultured people in the first place? And how did The Doctor survive the motorcycle crash? And how did he get transported back to Earth? ...Uhh, but yeah, aside from those lingering questions, it was still a pretty interesting story. And lest we forget that immortal quote:
! "There are worlds out there where the sky is burning, and the sea's asleep, and the rivers dream. People made of smoke, and cities made of song. Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there’s injustice, and somewhere else the tea's getting cold. Come on, Ace — we’ve got work to do!"
! Favorite Episodes:
-Remembrance of the Daleks
-The Greatest Show in the Galaxy
-Battlefield
-The Curse of Fenric
-Survival
! Well, next up for me is the Doctor Who TV movie. Don't let me down Paul McGann.[And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes
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LOL. Did you catch Hartnell flubbing his lines?
Yep, but ya know, old guy with head trauma.
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Heh, it's more surprising to find a serial where Hartnell didn't flub a line. Most of the early stuff was filmed as-live, with no retakes.
The Happiness Patrol - Apparently this a fairly polarizing serial, and I'd say I lean more on the forgiving side. But, then again, I'm not sure I can really call this a good serial. Let's just it was one of the better bad McCoy episodes. And yeah, Kandyman is too ridiculous not to be fun. Also, I'm not really that informed about British politics, so can anyone tell me exactly why people hate Margaret Thatcher so much?
In the seventies, britain was dying due to industrial action and vastly powerful unions, who managed to bring down the conservative Heath government, whom maggie was a minister of. She never forgot that. Labour came into power under Callahan and had about as much success at tackling the unions as the conservatives did. Callahan had even more headaches dealing with the union given that parts of his own party were a big part of the problem(the so called "Militant Tendancy"). When Maggie came into power, she crushed the miners union and severly curbed the power of most of the other unions, making illegal things like secondary picketing. However, while a lot of this was necessary, it was very damaging to a lot of people - especially in mining towns where most people in a community found themselves out of a job, damaging the town for a generation. She also privatised a lot of industries, and brought in a hugely unpopular tax. Because of these actions, she became a very polarising figure - people either see her as the saviour of Britain, or it's destroyer.
The Greatest Show in the Galaxy - Wow. I don't know what it was, but this episode seriously clicked with me. This is the most I've been engaged in a Doctor Who story since the 4th Doctor. Honestly, most of the time I'm pretty lax about getting to the next episode of a Who serial, but this first time in a while I couldn't wait to see what happened next. I guess I just love a good mystery that keeps you guessing to the end, and the interesting setting didn't hurt either. Admittedly, yes, the Gods of Ragnarok were kind of a weak payoff, and there are one or two plot points I wasn't sure about, but they're relatively minor complaints in what was an extremely engaging and entertaining story for me.
Yeah. Also, the explosion walk-away is the single coolest moment in WHO history.
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Of the three Doctors I've seen over the last few weeks, I think McCoy's is the hardest to pin down. I thought he was a fine Doctor, and he had a lot of great moments, but I don't think I can say he's one of my favorite Doctors. The thing is, I'm having trouble figuring out what he was all about.
The audios make him out to be the scheming, manipulative doctor, and play up on that aspect of him more… to the point they claim he was responsible for killing his Colin Baker self to force regeneration.
Yeah. Also, the explosion walk-away is the single coolest moment in WHO history.
ESPECIALLY given that it was a practical effect and not CGI… and it went off waaay closer to McCoy than expected... but he still didn't flinch cause they only got one take. Awesome.
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@RobbyBevard:
The audios make him out to be the scheming, manipulative doctor, and play up on that aspect of him more… to the point they claim he was responsible for killing his Colin Baker self to force regeneration.
The hero we needed
@RobbyBevard:
ESPECIALLY given that it was a practical effect and not CGI… and it went off waaay closer to McCoy than expected... but he still didn't flinch cause they only got one take. Awesome.
Yeah, and apparently it was far more powerful then he was expecting. bbc really had a lot of pyromaniacs on staff back then.
wonder if they lobbied for ace to use nitro 9
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@No:
Yep, but ya know, old guy with head trauma.
Oh yeah, I don't blame Hartnell for it. Anyone can flub a line. It's just fine that at that time with that kind of show they would just say "fuck it" and leave it in.
Yeah. Also, the explosion walk-away is the single coolest moment in WHO history.
@RobbyBevard:
ESPECIALLY given that it was a practical effect and not CGI… and it went off waaay closer to McCoy than expected... but he still didn't flinch cause they only got one take. Awesome.
In fact, let's see it again.
Oh, and thanks for the info on Thatcher, Darkstorm. I thought perhaps the plot of the episode was a satire on Thatcherism, but I guess it's just that the character of Helen A was based on Thatcher?
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I actually read up on that a while ago (need to refresh on what I've learned though), especially the measures limiting work hours and energy use due to the strikes, as part of my odd obsession with 70's Britain.
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Oh yeah, I don't blame Hartnell for it. Anyone can flub a line. It's just fine that at that time with that kind of show they would just say "fuck it" and leave it in.
No I meant that the Doctor stuttering could be easily explained as the result of the head wound he'd gotten just a short while before.
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@No:
No I meant that the Doctor stuttering could be easily explained as the result of the head wound he'd gotten just a short while before.
Oh yeah, whoops. I just remember hearing that Hartnell suffered from arteriosclerosis, which apparently affected his ability to say his lines. But maybe that didn't come till later.
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Okay, I'm gonna get started on watching as much as possible of Classic Who. The only thing I'm debating is whether or not to watch the surviving episodes from the first two Doctors. I'm thinking maybe it would be better to start from Pertwee instead of watching the disjointed remaining episodes before him. Decisions, decisions…
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Okay, I'm gonna get started on watching as much as possible of Classic Who. The only thing I'm debating is whether or not to watch the surviving episodes from the first two Doctors. I'm thinking maybe it would be better to start from Pertwee instead of watching the disjointed remaining episodes before him. Decisions, decisions…
Admittedly, the further you go back, the more the episodes suffer from pacing issues, but there are some really solid Hartnell and Troughton episodes.
For Hartnell, I'd recommend:
-Unearthly Child (just the first episode)
-The Daleks
-The Keys of Marinus
-The Dalek Invasion of Earth
-The Time MeddlerFor Troughton, I'd recommend:
-Tomb of the Cybermen
-The Mind Robber
-The War Games (10 episodes long, but it never feels dragged out)Personally, I just skipped all the Hartnell and Troughton episodes that had missing episodes, though I do plan to go back and watch them at some point.
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Yeah, I'm probably just gonna watch the serials that have all episodes in them, since it seems like kind of a waste to watch a non-complete story. But I watched the first episode of An Unearthly Child, and I actually really liked it. Hartnell actually had much more of a personality than I gave him credit for, and some amazing pathos. I'm probably gonna do the same way as you, Nobodyman, and watch either a full season or a complete Doctor's run, and then write reviews on the episodes. I'm actually really looking forward to this!
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This is just really awesome;
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Yeah, I'm probably just gonna watch the serials that have all episodes in them, since it seems like kind of a waste to watch a non-complete story. But I watched the first episode of An Unearthly Child, and I actually really liked it. Hartnell actually had much more of a personality than I gave him credit for, and some amazing pathos. I'm probably gonna do the same way as you, Nobodyman, and watch either a full season or a complete Doctor's run, and then write reviews on the episodes. I'm actually really looking forward to this!
You could watch the reconstructions as well.
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Yeah, I'm probably just gonna watch the serials that have all episodes in them, since it seems like kind of a waste to watch a non-complete story. But I watched the first episode of An Unearthly Child, and I actually really liked it. Hartnell actually had much more of a personality than I gave him credit for, and some amazing pathos. I'm probably gonna do the same way as you, Nobodyman, and watch either a full season or a complete Doctor's run, and then write reviews on the episodes. I'm actually really looking forward to this!
Tip: If you can't watch a whole story in one sitting, at least see a 20 min. segment a day, it keeps the marathoning going at a steady pace at least. I'm often busy but I can usually always find 20 minutes to spare.
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Just saw the Doctor Who TV movie.
All around, not very good. A lot of the dialogue and acting was pretty cringe-worthy, and Eric Roberts gave a pretty weak performance. In addition, the Eye of Harmony stuff was pretty confusing (in fact, I'd go so far as to say it doesn't make a lick of sense) and the entire story just seemed rushed. It really could've used an extra half hour to flesh everything out and let the story build up. And how did The Master turn into a pile of sentient ooze anyway?
The one good thing about the whole thing was, of course, Paul McGann. And even then, well….a 90-minute-long movie really just isn't enough time for us to really get to know this Doctor. I mean, McGann did a fine job with what he was given, and he got the Doctor's personality down pretty well, but at the same he wasn't as fleshed out or charming as the other Doctors. It'd be easy for me to call him the weakest Doctor, but it seems unfair since he was only given 60 minutes (as opposed to the dozens, if not hundreds, of hours given to the other Doctors) and a pretty poorly-written 60 minutes at that. McGann really just needed more time to get into the role. But, again, with what he was given, he did a fine job.
I really need to go back and re-listen to the 8th Doctor audio books I have.
And no, I'm not gonna say anything about The Doctor being half human since everyone seems comfortable with pretending that bit of information never happened.
BTW, here are my Top 10 Classic Who episodes:
10. An Unearthly Child
9. Tomb of the Cybermen
8. Spearhead from Space
7. City of Death
6. The Three Doctors
5. The War Games
4. The Caves of Androzani
3. The Greatest Show in the Galaxy
2. Genesis of the Daleks
1. The Ark in Space[And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes
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BTW, here are my Top 10 Classic Who episodes:
10. An Unearthly Child
9. Tomb of the Cybermen
8. Spearhead from Space
7. City of Death
6. The Three Doctors
5. The War Games
4. The Caves of Androzani
3. The Greatest Show in the Galaxy
2. Genesis of the Daleks
1. The Ark in SpaceA Third Doctor serial in your top ten ? Great
Btw you didn't watch any of the reconstructions ?
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@Mr.:
Tip: If you can't watch a whole story in one sitting, at least see a 20 min. segment a day, it keeps the marathoning going at a steady pace at least. I'm often busy but I can usually always find 20 minutes to spare.
I actually decided to, at least for now, jump straight to Pertwee, since it would be jarring to have all the gaps in my viewing. Though I did watch An Unearthly Child and thought it was pretty excellent.
I'm currently watching Spearhead in Space… and I kinda have to force myself to do it. I was thinking of doing one story per day, but at this rate it's closer to one or two parts a day instead.
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I'm currently watching Spearhead in Space… and I kinda have to force myself to do it. I was thinking of doing one story per day, but at this rate it's closer to one or two parts a day instead.
In some ways thats actually better, since the serials have a lot of cliffhangers and then the next episode spends a minute or two recapping or re-explaining what you just saw… marathoning the stories feels oddly redundant and weirdly paced sometimes as a result.
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@RobbyBevard:
In some ways thats actually better, since the serials have a lot of cliffhangers and then the next episode spends a minute or two recapping or re-explaining what you just saw… marathoning the stories feels oddly redundant and weirdly paced sometimes as a result.
Yeah, I can only think of a few times that I've watched entire serials in one day. The last time I remember doing that was The Time Warrior. It's easier with 4 episode serials, I think.
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I make it a practice to watch all of a serial in one go, if possible, and have no problems with it, although it maybe cause I just got used to it. Also I usually skip to the end of the recap.
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@RobbyBevard:
In some ways thats actually better, since the serials have a lot of cliffhangers and then the next episode spends a minute or two recapping or re-explaining what you just saw… marathoning the stories feels oddly redundant and weirdly paced sometimes as a result.
I watched the last two episodes of Spearhead over two days, and that was a much better experience. Maybe it's just because the last two episodes were way better and more evenly paced than the first two, but hey, who knows. I think this is how I'll keep doing it though, and then do a recap here at the end of each season.
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@No:
A Third Doctor serial in your top ten ? Great
Btw you didn't watch any of the reconstructions ?
You mean missing episode reconstructions? The only serial with a missing episode(s) I watched was The Tenth Planet, and in that one they just used photo stills and narration to fill in the gaps.
Anyway, for the discussion at hand, it's generally been my practice to watch a serial a day and the recaps usually don't bother me much. Of course, I also wanted to see all the serials before the 50th anniversary.
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So after watching the video I posted above(you guys should really check it out), I got to thinking. From the small hints that Moffat has dropped it seems that Capaldi's doctor will somehow darker at least compared to the rest and I was thinking that whatever happens to Smith will be precipitated by something to do with the time war and that he will regenerate at a time where he has to use some really heavy handed tactics to get out of a situation that would be impossible to escape otherwise and its those early actions that will define him for a time.
Basically I think Moffat will explore what Ten's clone/hand-regeneration could have been had he been allowed to stick around.
Also has anyone else ever drawn the , Soldier, Scientist, boy who lied connection?
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Oh, and thanks for the info on Thatcher, Darkstorm. I thought perhaps the plot of the episode was a satire on Thatcherism, but I guess it's just that the character of Helen A was based on Thatcher?
Yup. Her husband, Joseph C is also based on Thatcher's husband Sir Denis, who was well liked.
10. An Unearthly Child
9. Tomb of the Cybermen
8. Spearhead from Space
7. City of Death
6. The Three Doctors
5. The War Games
4. The Caves of Androzani
3. The Greatest Show in the Galaxy
2. Genesis of the Daleks
1. The Ark in SpaceGreat list, I love the top 8 myself too.
Mine would be:
10)The Ribos Operation
9)Greatest Show in the Galaxy
8)The Curse of Fenric (Directors Cut)
7)Ghostlight
6)Survival
5)Day of the Daleks (Special Edition)
4)Genesis of the Daleks
3)The War Games
2)The Seeds of Doom
1)Remembrance of the DaleksIf we're going serials only, Day and Curse would drop out of the top ten to be replaced by The Masque of Mandragora and City of Death.
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I still haven't seen all the old (available) ones, but I've seen all of Pertwee, a good chunk of Baker, and a smattering of the others… plus whatever I grew up on that I don't remember anymore. (McCoy must have been my first doctor because I very distinctly remember Ace, though McCoy himself apparently left no impression on my 5 year old mind.) I don't really have a particular favorites list, though those are both good.
But I'm going to have to distinctly throw some honors at NuWho's SIlence in the Library. I'd caught a handful of the new series and just written it off as badly done follow up... but I happened to have sci-fi on and that damn episode dragged me into being a fan again after... 20 years. The mystery of River was jsut too compelling. And then it as a damn 2 parter and I had to tune in the next week... and it was compelling enough I even remembered to do so!
After which I checked up on the writer, watched all the Mofatt episodes, which among the first seasons were all superb... (Blink gets talked about way too much... but rightly so.) and was a fan again solid. Shame his run as showrunner, while excellent in many ways and overall exactly the show I've always wanted out of it, hasn't quiiiiite lived up to the promise of his writing on those early episodes. (Huge difference between writing 2 eps a year... and writing 6 episodes and overall running everything and juggling in Sherlock)
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Just finished (yes I realise I open every post of this kind with that line) Marco Polo (the reconstruction of course, I don't have access to the actual full episodes, if I did I'd be somewhere between Trinidad and Tahiti right about now).
Decent stuff though Marco Polo was extremely douchey for the entire story. Yes he wanted to go home but he never expresses concern about the fact he unashamedly stole the Doctor's Tardis, until the end of the 7th episode.
! Genesis of the Daleks
Pyramids of Mars
City of Death
The Pilot
The Three Doctors
Robots of Death
The Daleks
The Brain of Morbius
The Edge of Destruction
100 000 BC
The Face of Evil
Spearhead from Space
Day of the Daleks
The Curse of Peladon
The Mutants
The Daemons
The Silurians
Inferno
Colony in Space
The Green Death
The Ambassadors of Death
Revenge of the Cybermen
Terror of the Zygons
The Sea Devils
Ghost Light
Marco Polo
The Greatest Show in the Galaxy
Dragonfire
The Curse of Fenric
The Sontaran Experiment
Planet of Evil
The Time Warrior
The Time Monster
The Claws of Axos
The Mind of Evil
Terror of the Autons
Meglos
Vengeance on Varos
Carnival of Monsters
Timelash
The Creature from the Pit
Happiness Patrol
Time and the Rani
Silver Nemesis
Delta and the Bannermen
Paradise Towers
Nightmare of Eden
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Watched the Tenth Planet. Its instantly became one of my fave episodes.
