One piece is probably the ruins of the ancient civilization. In the ruins there will be the rio ponyglphy and the two great weapons for 800 years ago. I also like what fire fist said on the subject, carries the heart of one piece
One Piece is simply Roger's own account of history, his life, and the life of his nakama. Enough said.
It is so obvious:
One Piece is Gold Rogers golden theet´s…
Wai!
Kanthia used to think for a long time that the One Piece was the cause, not the record. It's real dumb and hard to explain. Though she does see how history is a greater treasure than anything 4Kids could put on a 'what is the One Piece' poll, it's nice to think big sometimes.
Kanthia thinks that the One Piece and the Akuma no mi are somehow linked. She likes to think that Akuma no mi come from Raftel unless they grow on Akuma no mi island- perhaps their origin is vital to the story, but then again it doesn't have to be.
It's pretty neat.
Anyways, Kanthia always imagined the One Piece to be a kind of nothing. It's not a treasure, per se, but the reason the waters spin towards the centre and the islands are magnetic and the Grand Line runs backwards sometimes. Kind of a bastard silver sphere that holds the most horrible truth of them all- there are no dreams. It would be interesting, at least, if at the end of everything they discover that what Roger sent them out to find wasn't quite the treasure they discovered.
Er, never quite mind.
One Piece is the ultimate prize: A brand new car!
I really think it's somethine as simple as Treasure. I think it's alot of treasure. I don't know why. I usually think of some kind of moral. But this time I really think it's like an island full of treasure.
@Fire Fist:
I don't get why people haven't figured this out already…
Look at this:
http://groups.msn.com/onepiecemangav-3/volume12.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=2347
Now look at this:
http://groups.msn.com/onepiecemangav-3/chapter395.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=9285
For the love of Oda, it's about as obvious as anything can be…
Yeah I thought it was pretty obvious myself. That one piece of inconvienient history.
But then that'd be boring xD
In all actuallity Oda has made the Ponyglyphs and the void history Robin's thing.
Why make it Luffy's too?
One Piece is the treasure that'll make you king of the Pirates. The void history isn't something of piracy. It's something a revolutionary might want hint hint
Roger-sama may have known alot of the Ponyglyphs. But that kinda thing won't make you Kazoku-o. That kind of think makes you "Demons" or "outcasts" like Ohara. To be Kaizoku-o you need to be what? The best Pirate out there. What makes a Pirate? THAT is the question that leads to the answer to One Piece.
like I said…. a dairy, a map and a gold coin......
I would like to add to that...
a dairy, a map, a weapon and a gold coin....
dairy and map - details the actual location of Roger's treasure.
weapon - Roger's powerful weapon
gold coin - Roger's true treasure and the symbol of the Kazoku-o
One Piece cant be anything you imagine because Oda is very unpredictable…maybe we will never know what it is because i think that if it was history of the world Luffy would get kind of disapointed because he's stupid and all he wants is to be Pirate King!
yeah, I agree…... Oda is so unpredictable.....that it's hard to know what he will do.......
Why don't we ask Chooper's hat? 
Right Buuhan?
One piece of 8.
What a cheap treasure…. part of an old Spanish coin.
But then that'd be boring xD
In all actuallity Oda has made the Ponyglyphs and the void history Robin's thing.
Why make it Luffy's too?One Piece is the treasure that'll make you king of the Pirates. The void history isn't something of piracy. It's something a revolutionary might want hint hint
Roger-sama may have known alot of the Ponyglyphs. But that kinda thing won't make you Kazoku-o. That kind of think makes you "Demons" or "outcasts" like Ohara. To be Kaizoku-o you need to be what? The best Pirate out there. What makes a Pirate? THAT is the question that leads to the answer to One Piece.
Thing is, though, from what we know, Luffy is an…unconventional pirate, and he seems to carry on the spirit of Roger, from the way people keep comparing the two. Who's to say that Roger was your typical pirate?
Not to mention that the fact that Roger could not only read Poneglyphs, but WRITE them is not only an amazing feat...but a feat that makes you an instant threat (it's the reason why Robin is such a threat, after all). And then there's the mystery of the Will of D. The whole mystery of the D could very well be connected to the void century and the lost civilization Clover talked about.
… Fire Fist Ace has a point...
But that would imply that Raftel no longer exists, or is in ruins. Raftel was a lost kingdom, until Roger came along and probably rebuilt it or something and it is now a pirate nation waiting on a new king. Luffy.
and from they way things look not even the WG has visited that place ever sence the end of the 800 years void century ended. SO, After Roger left the WG didn't go straight to Raftel, probably because they some how couldn't?
anyways,I think that one piece is raftel itself, BUT I also think that One piece couldbe the friendship Roger and his crew found and gained throught his whole adventurous life together.
So really What I'm gettign at is that Part of one piece is in you're heart, and being with your friends. The other part is the last island, the lost country. Raftel. That could possibly 've been re built by Roger before he left.
and so, the real ONE piece is when everyone (together) in the straw hat crew makes it to raftel, and they all have accomplished there dreams withthe help of there friends as the connecting "piece" to make two , one . and there you have it.
One Piece.
It's a manga/anime. XD
All joking aside, I think it's a metaphor for the great adventures you have and good friends you make while searching for it.
One Piece is a Dream.
One piece has to be something tangible. Something that Luffy can wrap his arms around and prove to the world that he is Pirate King. My best guess is that its a device/information that can return the world to the era before pirate age. After all, Roger started that age with the hunt for; Luffy will end it with the "one piece"
A Death Note. It's how Roger got famous.
Caught up with One Piece at 405.'How Careless!'-Gedatsu
The Ancient Kingdom.
A Death Note. It's how Roger got famous.
I wonder where Light is….. lol....
another theory I thought One Piece is a tablet with the D in the middle and lots of those ancient language around it.......
and the huge Poneglyph that Robin wants to find, has a section that is missing...and the tablet fits it in.......
Pro-Main Cast Evangelist. In Oda We Trust. TheJackAss Crew. AMC = Anti-main Cast. Luffy x Nami.
Didn't read the thread, anyone suggested a huge pack of meat?
To me, sounds like the most possible one!
'DIT:
Plus, I don't think Roger put shit on the history stuff~
I had a weird thought that maybe all of luffys adventures were a dream or maybe he is in a coma dreaming of all of this. And in the end when they find one piece and luffy makes it to the island he wakes up…...
I had a weird thought that maybe all of luffys adventures were a dream or maybe he is in a coma dreaming of all of this. And in the end when they find one piece and luffy makes it to the island he wakes up…...
someone else did mention this before, but it would make the One Piece the worst ending possible…..
Pro-Main Cast Evangelist. In Oda We Trust. TheJackAss Crew. AMC = Anti-main Cast. Luffy x Nami.
In regaurds to this http://www.apforums.net/showthread.php?t=7268&highlight=Truth+Piece I don't Think what gold roger said on the exicution scafold to be that big of a blow to the goverment because only certain people Know how to read the polgmyoths.
Perhaps Roger thought that to topple th WG the seas would have to be infested with pirates, and invented the idea of a huge treasure One Piece, knowing that greed is more powerful than some idea of justice.
@Fire Fist:
I don't get why people haven't figured this out already…
Look at this:
http://groups.msn.com/onepiecemangav-3/volume12.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=2347
Now look at this:
http://groups.msn.com/onepiecemangav-3/chapter395.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=9285
For the love of Oda, it's about as obvious as anything can be…
You got me thinking again, thanks.
I agree with you and Octogon and others to think that the Lost Kingdom is One Piece. I just thought of some things that supports this theory:
Why Gol D. Roger got captured and how is a mystery, if he were supposed to be the "strongest" (or the most mighty) pirate alive.
..What if he really weren't? And that our current Whitebeard isn't neither? Would make for a great twist, no? Those I believe could be the strongest men alive and capable of capturing and defeating Roger is:
The Gorousei. They have a reason to hide history and I cannot think of anything else than it has with this kingdom to do.
Now why is this kingdom so much of a mystery and why did they kill Clover when ha was about to tell it's kingdoms name? It doesn't matter what name the kingdom would have had because no name would be as chocking as "One Piece".
The reason the Gorousei captured Gol D. Roger was for reaching Raftel / One Piece, and the reason Gol D. Roger said what he said when he was executed was in fact only to send people there. He couldn't have said (this is where I get to the point of my theory):
"You must all go to the last island of the Grand Line! The kingdom is inprisoned by the World Government!", or something like that. Because then no one would believe him.
This means that The Gorousei inprisons this kingdom by some reason.
Then the reason Whitebeard still haven't got there could be that The Gorousei is in fact stronger and can keep him away from the kingdom.
And if you think about it, it would be cool to have some unexpected characters as "last bosses". It's like when you play a nice RPG game and the last boss isn't who you expected it to be.
Now please don't flame me for this one. I came up with it very recently and I know this theory bears many flaws and I haven't really thought about all the flaws and things that then wouldn't make sense. But I do believe some things makes sense; and would make for a nice twist. (Also then Gol D. Rogers execution would nearly be like Norlands.)
If you read all of it; thanks.
One piece is the fortress of Mana…lol jking
Is a letter with a message that has the answer to Roger riddle and a personal object of Roger that everybody thinks that is in his tomb and that everybody can recognize.
Maybe its the one thing you can recognize every pirate on: Gol D. Roger's flag O.o
well…. maybe not :P
One Piece is a kingdom, a kingdom I tell you :D
No! It's a huge pack of meat!
Dudes, face the truth. Roger doesn't put shit on the history and only wrote on the Golden Bell because it'll make him cool by the view of those who can read it.
Meat = food = supermarkets = wealth.
Meat = meat = power.
Adventures towards meat using meat = fame.
One Piece solved.
One things for sure, on raftel there are the poneglyphs that Robin is searching for (or she have to bring all the ones she has read there??) can't remember
One piece is probably a big treasure so Luffy will get very happy and Sanji will find all blue e.t.c. so their dreams will probably come true when they've gotten there :P
something bothers me…
how can there be 4 major pirates ( the emperors ) at the second half of the grand line, i mean why hasnt one been able to reach the end and claim the one piece ( if its a treasure )
I THINK that the emperors have reached it and found it to be no certain treasure of monetory value and thus the WG allowed/offerd them the emperor hood as payment for silence aswell as using them ( willingly or not ) as a filter to stop those who want to reach raftel
how can they be allowed to live the way they do even though theyr powerfull they still can be taken out in many difrent ways using the other emperors being the eassiast
the meeting between whitebeard and shanks will show us whether this is true or not
anyway im enjoing this forum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've heard this theory time and time again but, I'll say it again.
RioPoneglyph is Robin-chwans thing. It being One Piece is a real killer for Luffy's goal.
I think there's some Poneglyph on Raftel but not as One Piece. Just for Robin's fufillment.
Here's my theory of Ancient Kingdom and One Piece world: http://apforums.net/showpost.php?p=378791&postcount=52
Gol D. Roger was a powerful man, who revealed the truth of Poneglyphs. The truth will lead to One Piece - the final treasure. But that treasure is not monetary, it is a truth and a big secret concerns the making of history and even the world. To achieve the final goal, to achieve One Piece, a pirate alone cannot do it. He needs an army the size of half the world population at least. There is no way in his life time he can creat that large army, with the WG and Marines after him and all. That's why he wanted and did become PIRATE KING to build his credit. And later on, turning himself in to the WG in purpose, so they can executed him. That way he can tell the world about ONE PIECE in the hope to creat a new era, and he DID creat the pirate era by doing so.
Why is it important that he was dead?
If he, being a normal pirate, no one would care of his death. That's why he had to make a name for himself, just like what Luffy tryinh to do now.
If Pirate King said that he had left his treasures in One Piece, it got to be true, being Pirate King and all
If Pirate King escaped from his execution and stay alive, says forever … (:p) then nobody would have gone after One Piece, since NOBODY is expected to be as strong as him to try to rob PIRATE KING off his treasure.
That's why Pirate King must die so that people would go after One Piece. Gol Roger doesn't care if he must die. His purpose was to make an army, and he did. Pirate God bless him...
The 4 emperors, Shichibukai and the rest of Pirate World could not find One Piece because:
As for the WG, we have never seen any WG or Marines that go after One Piece. Simply because they don't have to look for it, because maybe (?) they already have it, or destroyed it. Their job is to cover up One Piece and the truth behind it.
Master Yoda: "Believe in the Force"
Master Oda: "I leave it all in One Piece"
Here's my theory of Ancient Kingdom and One Piece world: http://apforums.net/showpost.php?p=378791&postcount=52
Thats a little too much speculation…
Gol D. Roger was a powerful man, who revealed the truth of Poneglyphs. The truth will lead to One Piece - the final treasure. But that treasure is not monetary, it is a truth and a big secret concerns the making of history and even the world.
Yah.
To achieve the final goal, to achieve One Piece, a pirate alone cannot do it. He needs an army the size of half the world population at least. There is no way in his life time he can creat that large army, with the WG and Marines after him and all.
Wait….what does he need this army for? To get to the One Piece? That seems like something easier done with quality, not quantity.
That's why he wanted and did become PIRATE KING to build his credit.
Thats probably one of the worst ways to gain credit. Become a master criminal.
And later on, turning himself in to the WG in purpose, so they can executed him. That way he can tell the world about ONE PIECE in the hope to creat a new era, and he DID creat the pirate era by doing so.
If he wanted to tell people why would he have to die?
- If he, being a normal pirate, no one would care of his death. That's why he had to make a name for himself, just like what Luffy tryinh to do now.
Uh…that has nothing to do with him dying.
- If Pirate King said that he had left his treasures in One Piece, it got to be true, being Pirate King and all
That also has nothing to do with him dying.
- If Pirate King escaped from his execution and stay alive, says forever … (:p) then nobody would have gone after One Piece, since NOBODY is expected to be as strong as him to try to rob PIRATE KING off his treasure.
That makes no sense at all.
The "treasure" is ultimate knowledge, we both agree on that. If Roger is alive he can tell it himself. Theres no need to die for people to go learn what he can tell them.
That's why Pirate King must die so that people would go after One Piece. Gol Roger doesn't care if he must die. His purpose was to make an army, and he did. Pirate God bless him…
First one is illogical, second is irrelevant.
The 4 emperors, Shichibukai and the rest of Pirate World could not find One Piece because:
- They can't read Poneglyphs
- They are not strong enough to follow the clues
- They just can't do it alone with their force.
As for the emperors, I think some of them must have known about One Piece but like I said, they can not do it alone so they are waiting.
Do WHAT alone? You never clarified that.
As for the WG, we have never seen any WG or Marines that go after One Piece. Simply because they don't have to look for it, because maybe (?) they already have it, or destroyed it. Their job is to cover up One Piece and the truth behind it.
Your REALLY inconsistent. You state that One Piece is knowledge. How can that be destroyed? Its flat out stated in the series that the Rio Poneglyph is on Raftel, and Poneglyphs cannot be destroyed. And are vessels of knowledge.
The level of "OMIGOD STOP" aimed at pirates by the Gov. is wayyy to big for them to have the One Piece locked away in some big bueracratic basement storehouse like in the end of Raiders of the Lost Arc.
I've heard this theory time and time again but, I'll say it again.
RioPoneglyph is Robin-chwans thing. It being One Piece is a real killer for Luffy's goal.I think there's some Poneglyph on Raftel but not as One Piece. Just for Robin's fufillment.
Getting the One Piece is not Luffy's goal. Becoming the Pirate King is.
Don't confuse the two.
I THINK that the emperors have reached it and found it to be no certain treasure of monetory value and thus the WG allowed/offerd them the emperor hood as payment for silence aswell as using them ( willingly or not ) as a filter to stop those who want to reach raftel
"Emperor" isn't a legal title given by the Gov. -_-
And you basically just described the Shichibukai.
how can they be allowed to live the way they do even though theyr powerfull they still can be taken out in many difrent ways using the other emperors being the eassiast
…..
Your completely ignoring the basic idea of them. Which implies no matter what you want to assume they're too powerful to be overcame. Thats just the way it is. No "what ifs" about it.
And once more, they can't be bought. Or they'd be Shichibukai.
It's Roger's logbook, which the true history is a part of. This much should be obvious. Throughout the manga, everyone has had an emphasis on memories. All the flashbacks, Shanks and Whitebeard reminiscing, and simple memories in general. All of One Piece has emphasized the past and "Dreams". One Piece is Roger's hopes, fears, dreams, and wishes for the future, which Luffy and others are carrying on by creating a "New Era".
I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.
It's Roger's logbook, which the true history is a part of. This much should be obvious.
Why would he leave his logbook at the end of the Grand Line? Especially when the Rio is there anyway.
Throughout the manga, everyone has had an emphasis on memories.
Um….not really.
All the flashbacks, Shanks and Whitebeard reminiscing, and simple memories in general.
Flashback memories are nothing like the sort of logbook memories of say Zeff. One are horrible emotional scars being shown as the point of what needs to resolved in that arc with that character, the other is a one time semi-motive for a lame villain.
I see no Corelation at all.
All of One Piece has emphasized the past and "Dreams".
I don't see how Dreams is connected to "memories".
One Piece is Roger's hopes, fears, dreams, and wishes for the future, which Luffy and others are carrying on by creating a "New Era".
I see no evidence to this conclusion.
The logbook theme showed up only once, and was brief and primarily there to make Kreig's motives more solid.
and the rio poneglyph AND one piece can't both be on raftel because…
Terek bets: in Raftel, The One Piece will be hidden in the wreckage of the Oro Jackson, which will be at the centre of the island since it was thrown there by Roger.
its almost same theory of mine at the other forum :( (based on first post)
Roger left his treasure in lost kingdom where one piece and Rio poneglyph is.
he make sure that someone will find the Rio Poneglyph to reveal the true nature of WG
I don't get it. How the hell does the Rio Poneglyph or Roger's logbook make anyone the 'Pirate King'?
Unless it's another cop-out like:
1. "You've travelled through the entirety of the Grandline…the skill that you earned while travelling makes you PIRATE KING!"
2. Roger was lying. It was all a ruse to get people motivated to discover the true nature of the world government. (Through the Rio Poneglyph)
3. The term 'Pirate King' is moot point and was just used by the WG to 'brand' Roger as history's worst criminal.
By all intents and purposes, One Piece should be something that Luffy would be happy about. History is something that doesn't seem to me as an object of interest to Luffy. Maybe...a huge piece of meat instead? One Piece of...meat? I don't know. It's wierd. I mean, I'm a fan of the "lost history as One Piece" theory because it's logical and it excites my mind because history of the One Piece world is something I would want to explore. But when I do a character study of Luffy, it just does not fit. He'd all be like..."Oh..okay...so what do I do with this history?"
Why would he leave his logbook at the end of the Grand Line? Especially when the Rio is there anyway.
Flashback memories are nothing like the sort of logbook memories of say Zeff. One are horrible emotional scars being shown as the point of what needs to resolved in that arc with that character, the other is a one time semi-motive for a lame villain.
I see no Corelation at all.I don't see how Dreams is connected to "memories".
Perhaps you don't understand what a logbook is. It's a diary, more or less. A captain writes it describing his voyage. To me, a person's memories would be the most valued thing to them, because it reveals all they've learned, and it's the only real thing you can take with you when you die. Gold, ships, possessions and other things are all meaningless when you're dead.
By recording your own personal thoughts and feeling, you give One Piece of YOUR memories, One Piece of your journey in life. One Piece of Life's journey, as told by you.
You're looking too narrowly, Zephos. What good would gold and jewels and ships be to Roger if he couldn't take it with him? What good is anything material in death? And those that covet these things in life are just foolish.
The Rio Poneglyph IS Roger's logbook. I think the conclusion that Robin came to is that the Rio Poneglyph is a collection of everything that was written about the lost history, compiled into one document. Maybe it was carved on the poneglyph stone, but I strongly believe that either Roger or his archaeologist (If he's not Nico Robin's father) wrote the Rio poneglyph. After all, Rio means River in Spanish. Time flows like a river towards a final end; in that sense, all the Poneglyphs flow like a river of knowledge toward a final truth. So, there WAS no Rio poneglyph until Roger reached the end and recorded it.
As for how dreams are connected to memories, that's simple. Memories of the past are what drive people forward to the future. Sanji's memories of Zeff's Sacrifice, Luffy's memory of Shanks' sacrifice, Usopp's memories of his mother praising his father, Chopper's memories of Hiruluk, Robin's memories of Saulo and Olivia's sacrifice, Zoro's memories of Kuina, Franky's memories of Tom, Nami's memories of Belle-Mere's sacrifice. Every Strawhat has a dream for the future, and it's the memories of those that inspired them and encouraged them to live out these dreams that drives them forward.
That's why I believe it's Roger's logbook. Because Roger's treasure, like all of the strawhats, is his memories of the past.
Which leads to a good question: Who inspired Roger?
I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.
Does this mean that Shanks and Buggy know what One Piece is ?
Seeing as they were crewmembers up until the time Roger got executed. This means that they were there when it all happened, and that they are all apart of it.
What amazes me is the way they both turned out. Shanks' piracy isn't the evil type, it's very much like Luffy – well from what we've seen anyway. But, where as Buggy, he's basically the complete opposite? He destroys towns, and robs people. This gives us no clue as to what type of person their captain was. But, I'm leaning more towards the way Shanks has adpoted, due to Shanks' position now, compared to Buggy's.
Having said all that, we have some sort of idea what type of person/pirate the Pirate King was. I also doubt that Garp "cornered" him serveral times. It could more than likely be a meeting, similar to the one he had with Luffy, but instead they're drinking alcohol and such, as per Shanks and Whitebeard.
I don't think we will ever find out what One Piece is, cause the build up to it, is just too great, and if it's actually revealed, it may be a major let down. The best thing to do, is to leave it to our imaginations.
I don't get it. How the hell does the Rio Poneglyph or Roger's logbook make anyone the 'Pirate King'?
How don't they?
1. "You've travelled through the entirety of the Grandline…the skill that you earned while travelling makes you PIRATE KING!"
More like the completion of said task.
2. Roger was lying. It was all a ruse to get people motivated to discover the true nature of the world government. (Through the Rio Poneglyph)
Thats exactly my thoery. Except that in no way invalidates one becoming the Pirate King.
3. The term 'Pirate King' is moot point and was just used by the WG to 'brand' Roger as history's worst criminal.
Very likely. How is that a cop-out?
By all intents and purposes, One Piece should be something that Luffy would be happy about.
Once again, Luffy dosen't want the One Piece, he wants to be the Pirate King.
History is something that doesn't seem to me as an object of interest to Luffy.
It dosen't need to be.
Maybe…a huge piece of meat instead? One Piece of...meat? I don't know.
That ending would suck…
It's wierd. I mean, I'm a fan of the "lost history as One Piece" theory because it's logical and it excites my mind because history of the One Piece world is something I would want to explore. But when I do a character study of Luffy, it just does not fit. He'd all be like…"Oh..okay...so what do I do with this history?
Think of this….In fact I might add this to my opening post...
If Luffy finding One Piece was the only goal.
That would suck ass.
Even just being Pirate King, would suck.
Why?
Because essentially the entire series would be Luffy doing what somebody already did. Its like Oda making a manga series just like Dragonball.
If One Piece is the Rio Poneglyph than there is a second step. One that Roger didn't manage to do. Act upon the information, and more or less bring the government down.
To really make the series fulfilling, Luffy must SURPASS Roger. Not just follow in his footsteps. He must do what roger could not.
Finding the One Piece is not enough.
Perhaps you don't understand what a logbook is. It's a diary, more or less. A captain writes it describing his voyage.
I know exactly what a logbook is thank you.
To me, a person's memories would be the most valued thing to them, because it reveals all they've learned, and it's the only real thing you can take with you when you die. Gold, ships, possessions and other things are all meaningless when you're dead.
And as a scholar of the Poneglyphs I think Roger had a pretty set head while voyaging.
By recording your own personal thoughts and feeling, you give One Piece of YOUR memories, One Piece of your journey in life. One Piece of Life's journey, as told by you.
I have no doubt that a Roger logbook would be hnady and neat to have. But as the One Piece itself?
You're looking too narrowly, Zephos. What good would gold and jewels and ships be to Roger if he couldn't take it with him? What good is anything material in death? And those that covet these things in life are just foolish.
UH…...
Did you read the opening post at all? 0_0
The Rio Poneglyph IS Roger's logbook.
No it isn't.
Its comprised of all the Poneglyph, which are made by the ancient civilization. Wether the One Piece is a logbook or not, the Rio Poneglyph is still a collected Poneglyph.
I think the conclusion that Robin came to is that the Rio Poneglyph is a collection of everything that was written about the lost history, compiled into one document.
Yes.
Maybe it was carved on the poneglyph stone, but I strongly believe that either Roger or his archaeologist (If he's not Nico Robin's father) wrote the Rio poneglyph.
Possibly.
After all, Rio means River in Spanish. Time flows like a river towards a final end; in that sense, all the Poneglyphs flow like a river of knowledge toward a final truth. So, there WAS no Rio poneglyph until Roger reached the end and recorded it.
Exactly. None of which invalidates my post, thats not Roger's log though. Thats a compliation of all the Poneglyph messages.
As for how dreams are connected to memories, that's simple. Memories of the past are what drive people forward to the future. Sanji's memories of Zeff's Sacrifice, Luffy's memory of Shanks' sacrifice, Usopp's memories of his mother praising his father, Chopper's memories of Hiruluk, Robin's memories of Saulo and Olivia's sacrifice, Zoro's memories of Kuina, Franky's memories of Tom, Nami's memories of Belle-Mere's sacrifice. Every Strawhat has a dream for the future, and it's the memories of those that inspired them and encouraged them to live out these dreams that drives them forward.
And so the Rio Poneglyph is Roger's Log…
I don't follow.
That's why I believe it's Roger's logbook. Because Roger's treasure, like all of the strawhats, is his memories of the past.
Uh, the Strawhats don't treasure thier fairly horrific pasts.
Does this mean that Shanks and Buggy know what One Piece is ?
Its possible they don't. In fact I pretty much guarentee Buggy dosen't.
They might have joined after the fact, they WERE young.
Seeing as they were crewmembers up until the time Roger got executed. This means that they were there when it all happened, and that they are all apart of it.
That dosen't mean they were there for Raftel.
What amazes me is the way they both turned out. Shanks' piracy isn't the evil type, it's very much like Luffy – well from what we've seen anyway. But, where as Buggy, he's basically the complete opposite? He destroys towns, and robs people.
In all fairness, he caused property damage and OCCUPIED the town rather than invade it.
This gives us no clue as to what type of person their captain was. But, I'm leaning more towards the way Shanks has adpoted, due to Shanks' position now, compared to Buggy's.
Roger's intentions were the Rio Poneglyph. I doubt he enjoyed pillaging for the hell of it.
Having said all that, we have some sort of idea what type of person/pirate the Pirate King was. I also doubt that Garp "cornered" him serveral times. It could more than likely be a meeting, similar to the one he had with Luffy, but instead they're drinking alcohol and such, as per Shanks and Whitebeard.
What makes you say that?
I don't think we will ever find out what One Piece is, cause the build up to it, is just too great, and if it's actually revealed, it may be a major let down. The best thing to do, is to leave it to our imaginations.
The revelation of the governments foundings and subsequent revolutionary twist this brings will be dissapointing if its true?
I didn't mean they treasured their pasts at that point. I meant they treasured memories of those that sacrificed themselves for them. And then, those that drive them forward in the present:
Luffy: Shanks, Gol D. Roger (As an inspiration)
Zoro: Kuina, Mihawk
Nami: Belle-mere, Gen-san, Nojiko
Sanji: Zeff
Usopp: Elbaf Giants
Chopper: Hiruluk and Kureha
Robin: Olivia, Clover, Saulo, Kuzan (sort of)
Franky: Tom, his family, Iceburg
While some of these people are still alive, those that aren't are memories of the past, and that's what drives these people forward and inspires them.
I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.
