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    • Tokoro Ataru
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      OK, stupid title and whether or not this is the appropriate forum aside, I was thinking the other day of a very silly thing. Mostly, whether or not Naruto characters could exist and fight and generally live in a chakra-free world such as One Piece. Now I know what you're thinking: he's nuts and really should be keelhauled while being mauled by wild llamas. But somehow, the more I thought about it, the more I was able to figure out the situation for a world where, say, there is no chakra, yet there is potential of fighting with anything and everything. (Devil fruits being part of it) And so far, here's some of my silly thoughts as to whether or if they can. (based only on the characters I know)

      Naruto Uzumaki: Personalitywise, he's your typical shonen hero..sort of like Luffy in that sense. Powerwise…well, take away all the abilities Naruto uses chakra for (Kage Bushin, Ransengan), he would still have...well an extremely reckless fighting style, but he can still fight hand-to-hand. And while there is no Kyuubi in this world, I can easily see him with some sort of "Fox-Fox Fruit", allowing him to fight like...well, not a mystical vulpine but more like a real one. He's fine.

      Sasuke Uchiha: Not one of my favorite characters...but I do see one main problem in his existance in the OP world. That being: no Sharingan. There are hypnosis abilities and other sorts of powers, but Oda really hasn't allowed for the existance for a "be-all and end-all" ability that can copy and create illusions and such. On the other hand, I could see an Oda-powered Sasuke emphasizing other abilities. For one, with the emphasis of fire abilities in the Uchiha clan, I could see him with the Mera-Mera fruit...sure being a Logian is no Sharingan, but it has a lot of uber-ness in itself. Secondly, he still has vast physical skill, so he could use that to his advantage. Personality...I could almost say like a Zoro, but Zoro isn't angsty and upset all the time. Sure he has his dreams, but beating Mihawk is only part of the story...while beating Itachi is pretty much most of what Sasuke is about.

      Sakura Haruno: While most of her ninja skill (at least prior to what I hear happens in the time-skip) is rather generic, she could have the brains to survive. Maybe the equivalent to a more-honest Nami (heh...like that exists).

      Kakashi: The sad thing about Kakashi is that since he's so well made for the Kishimoto world (master of stealth, the copy master thanks to his Sharingan), its extremely hard to fit him into a more Oda-universe. Without the Sharingan/chakra, all Kakashi has is his stealth and ninja skills...which while great in themselves, just makes him a powerful assasin instead of the extremely cool/powerful guy he is. Maybe I could throw him a bone and give him a Goro-Goro fruit for his Chidori/Raikiri attack...but I don't know how a laid-back guy like him could have use for that fruit.

      When I get back to this post, I'll probably do some more of the main genin.

      Y'know, Negima WAS awesome…

      For the first 18 volumes.

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        @Tokoro:

        Naruto Uzumaki: Personalitywise, he's your typical shonen hero..sort of like Luffy in that sense.

        Sasuke Uchiha: Not one of my favorite characters…but I do see one main problem in his existance in the OP world. That being: no Sharingan. There are hypnosis abilities and other sorts of powers, but Oda really hasn't allowed for the existance for a "be-all and end-all" ability that can copy and create illusions and such. On the other hand, I could see an Oda-powered Sasuke emphasizing other abilities. For one, with the emphasis of fire abilities in the Uchiha clan, I could see him with the Mera-Mera fruit...sure being a Logian is no Sharingan, but it has a lot of uber-ness in itself. Secondly, he still has vast physical skill, so he could use that to his advantage. Personality...I could almost say like a Zoro, but Zoro isn't angsty and upset all the time. Sure he has his dreams, but beating Mihawk is only part of the story...while beating Itachi is pretty much most of what Sasuke is about.

        Sakura Haruno: While most of her ninja skill (at least prior to what I hear happens in the time-skip) is rather generic, she could have the brains to survive. Maybe the equivalent to a more-honest Nami (heh...like that exists).

        When I get back to this post, I'll probably do some more of the main genin.

        1st Mistake Comparing Zoro in ANY way to Sasuke

        2nd Mistake putting people like Luffy and Gon on Naruto's level (ie they both don't just go whoa lets spam that)

        Pirates >>>> Ninjas therefore Ninja's in pirate show = Ninja's screwed

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          This . . . . . does not compute.

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            When the main character ninjas in the serie don't even act like Ninjas…you goot a problem there...not like..."GUAH FULL ON ATTACK!"...ninjas are ninjas for a reason. At least Luffy and Co act like Pirates come now...that is a huge difference in that aspect of acting your "job"

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              @valiantt:

              When the main character ninjas in the serie don't even act like Ninjas…you goot a problem there...not like..."GUAH FULL ON ATTACK!"...ninjas are ninjas for a reason. At least Luffy and Co act like Pirates come now...that is a huge difference in that aspect of acting your "job"

              Excuse me but Luffy and co. may be a pirate but they are olny pirate-in-name. They don't pillage villages, raid ships and kill people like common pirates

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                They are thieves <_<, they are anarchists, have a boat with a flag under a symbol, heck they are pretty destructive as well (Enies Lobby…come now)...sure they are not conventional pirates like Arlong or Don Krieg who pillage and kill, but they are pirates nontheless (and not merely under a title)

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                  OK, sorry about all this crap, but I guess I was trying to reasonably figure out what would happen if these characters existed in One Piece…personally I like One Piece a lot, lot more, but I guess I sort of had a silly, very wrong idea. If you want to lock this thread, go ahead.

                  Y'know, Negima WAS awesome…

                  For the first 18 volumes.

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                    s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-sasuke is like zoro??

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                    …sorry
                    I'm abit sensitive to the word sasuke, especially since ch. 306
                    but no, not saying that zoro is strong than sasuke or sasuke is stronger than zoro
                    their personalities just differ too greatly

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                      @Eggy:

                      s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-sasuke is like zoro??

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                      …sorry
                      I'm abit sensitive to the word sasuke, especially since ch. 306
                      but no, not saying that zoro is strong than sasuke or sasuke is stronger than zoro
                      their personalities just differ too greatly

                      Yeah…Sasuke is more like a more annoying version of Vegeta, Ren oder Ishida. OP (thank god) still lakes that "I don't know wether I'm good or evil, but I'm one hell of a badass and the main characters rival"-character.
                      Naruto on the other hand is indeed just like Luffy, both are typical shounen heros (who all happen to be somehow like Goku^^).

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                        Sasuke dreams he can be a good revenge character like Kurapica and Vegeta

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                        • Tokoro Ataru
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                          About that Sasuke/Zoro comment: I was sort of thinking more regarding the second-mate idea and using the idea of dreams and ambitions for my thought. Zoro is a much more interesting character than Sasuke IMHO, but the main drive of his character is to get strong enough to defeat Mihawk and become the greatest swordsman in the world. (which in a way is similar to Sasuke being obsessed with training and getting what he needs to defeat Itachi, but in his case it is about revenge as opposed to showing himself to being "the best"…but in one way, shows that both he and Zoro are obsessed with getting strong enough to overcoming their greatest obstacle)

                          Had some thoughts about some of the other characters and whether or how they could logically fight in an Oda-verse (small hint: an easy yes for Lee, Kiba and...believe it or not Tenten), but I'll wait until later to say something on them.

                          Y'know, Negima WAS awesome…

                          For the first 18 volumes.

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                            @paptschik:

                            Naruto on the other hand is indeed just like Luffy, both are typical shounen heros (who all happen to be somehow like Goku^^).

                            Except…not.
                            Luffy is constantly happy, goofy and stupid, when he's not fighting for his friends. Naruto - while occasionally dimwitted and cheer/boastful- is nowhere near that level, and has turned into a weeping Pain-sharing machine, who talks long and often about his feelings...especially for a certain boy.

                            Luffy doesn't give speeches about his feelings, how he views his friends, and why he's helping them/ trying to bring them back. He just knows what needs to be done, and does it.

                            And finally: Naruto wants to be Hokage cause he felt lonely and unacknowledged. Luffy wants to be pirate king because he, well, wants to be pirate king. He doesn't give a rats ass about what people think of him.

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                              @Tokoro:

                              Naruto Uzumaki: Personalitywise, he's your typical shonen hero..sort of like Luffy in that sense.

                              He probably does well enough seeing as how he wouldn't be treated as an outcast for his entire life.

                              Sasuke Uchiha: Not one of my favorite characters…but I do see one main problem in his existance in the OP world. That being: no Sharingan.

                              The main problem I see for him is that he's a smarmy prick that would be stuck in a world where people wouldn't give a rat's ass whose family he's from.

                              Sakura Haruno: While most of her ninja skill (at least prior to what I hear happens in the time-skip) is rather generic, she could have the brains to survive.

                              She attempts to approach situations from a rational perspective; as a result, the Grand Line laughs at her and makes her its bitch.

                              Kakashi: … Maybe I could throw him a bone and give him a Goro-Goro fruit for his Chidori/Raikiri attack...but I don't know how a laid-back guy like him could have use for that fruit.

                              I really don't know that Kakashi is more laid-back in his personality than Ener, who is one lazy bastard. Kakashi's fairly smart and strong so he probably has a decent future working for some pirate crew or other. He'd be a good fit for Shank's crew actually considering his attitude towards friendship and loyalty.

                              Complicating things since 2009.

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                                Usopp and Lee are very similar. Both are weak and fight hard against their handicaps, and insanely excel in areas that they are strong in. Both have role models, both have a large facial feature (including a nickname), and both are generally funny and upbeat. Interestingly, they both have similar dreams, not wanting to achive much, but just wanting to be good at things that they didn't think they could become. Seeing Lee and Gai as pirates really makes me laugh, so now I will scurry off and draw it.

                                I believe this topic has been done before alot, waaay waaay (aka in early 2005) back. =P

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