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    • G-ology
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      @Selph:

      I see a "vs" on the colourspread. Is that not the chapter title? It would make more sense if the title would be "Nami vs Kalifa".

      I think the actual title is next to "410" 😉

      The text with the "vs." is maybe just.. er.. a text :laugh:
      (Of course it is about the chapter..)

      BYAAAH!

      "I think I've got a feeling I've.. inside"

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        Wow i can so see Nami bullying Sanji for his 'chivalry' speech when in truth a hot woman rubbed him all over and he definately loved it.
        Nice turn of events though, Chopper breaking into the Namipha fight. After the recap last chapter he seemed to be heading towards Zoro/Sogeking.
        It was also what i expected him to do….unconsciously going to them because the task of getting the key to freeing them still remained at the back of his mind.
        I really dont know how its gonna go from here. Also Chopper smashed through the wall of the upper half of the tower. It should start tipping over anytime now.

        Oh and Oda is just god at drawing fight scenes. The dirst few pages was poetry in motion. I love fight scenes where there isnt much talk and a lot of action filled pages.

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          oh my god, what a chapter xD

          THX BF!!!

          — finally back — wohoo —

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            bloody buggery brilliance all over the place.

            the heat is going up, yo.

            wheeeeeee!!!!!1+6=4!

            thanks!

            p.s. sanji's ass is looking mightily juicy in that colorspread.

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              Wow, middle of the night in Japan? This is new to me at least and certainly a pleasant surprise.

              No matter where you go, there you are.

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                I never throught lucchi would be as challanging as enel because of the mantra, but seeing lucchi and luffy fight this time around it seems they're both on a whole other level than when he fought enel. mantra or not this is luffy hardest battle. Luffy doesn't seem to be in gear 2 either.

                Thanks for the Clean, looks much better. You can see the fear in Bakalifas eyes much better ^.^

                TO– LER-- ATE LAMBO!

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                  Chopper entrance reminds me so much of The Shining.

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                    wow nice, chapter! Thanks BF! Luffy vs. Lucci WOW!

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                      Yes! I come home, and get a high quality chapter. Thanks BF!

                      I love how most of Luffy vs. Lucchi had no dialouge, and, despite seeing Chopper just burst into the room, Nami can still just call Kalifa an idiot for making the conclusion that she did. :laugh:

                      Originally Posted by mogapi

                      Buggo to Whitebread: "Nigga, I'm about pee up yo butt and shit down yo dick."

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                        Thanks BF!

                        Something about the transformed shiny-rag-doll Nami and Sanji profoundly disturbs me. Turns my stomach to see it. shivers

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                          @Battle:

                          The blue text on the right is the title.

                          /me

                          "Dog eat dog"

                          Uh….... :huh:

                          10 seconds later.

                          OOOOOOOOOOOOHH!!!! :laugh:

                          (dumbarse)

                          "Its a dog eat dog world." Snoop D/DMX/Tupac (?)

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                            Thanks BF!

                            Something about the transformed shiny-rag-doll Nami and Sanji profoundly disturbs me. Turns my stomach to see it. shivers

                            That's what iv'e been saying. I wonder if it hurts them seeing as it apparently washes stuff away, I mean is it permanent (the stuff washed away) and it sort of makes them look disabled, and I don't wanna see any of the mugiwaras wheel chair bound or disabled in anyway😠 so kalifa (though I like her) and spandam (detest him) are going to have to be put away. Hitting a woman if sanji was there he'd be disgusted.

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                              Sadly this was dissapointingly uneventful as hell. That's a shame, he usually makes chapters after break awesome.

                              No matter where you go, there you are.

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                                The start of the Lucci vs Luffy fight is great. Can't wait for the rest.

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                                  @Danaz:

                                  the fighting between Luffy and Lucchi is of the type that made me love manga in the first place. Awesome stuff indeed - graphical and expressive at the same time

                                  I agree. But is he using Gear in it or is it just dust from the fight?

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                                    Anyone notice how chopper was smiling at the end of this chapter? It seems like he's happy to see either Nami or Calipha. Anyways, I remember people discussing how to counter Calipha's DF powers. Most people were saying dirt would work, but I doubt it, because we saw Sanji fall a few stories through ceilings towards the floor Nami was on. I'm sure going through stone and wood would produce a lot of dirt and notice how he's still bubbly.

                                    The other possibility is water itself. We rinse soap off with water. If nami can make it rain and wash the effect off herself, she can also probably keep Calipha from encapsulating herself in soap in the event of a thunderbolt tempo. However, its not like she had a lot of time to figure this out before Chopper came into the room.

                                    Now that Chopper is inside, he'll be a good distraction for Nami to figure out her situation a little more. He can beat Calipha up a bit until she cleans his berserk mode off, and at that point Nami might finally see Calipha's weakness. Regardless of if she can use soru or tekkai, a lightning bolt cant be guarded with a "hard" body or be dodged by just human speed given lightning is almost instantaneous.

                                    These are just a few thoughts.

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                                      Wow, the Nami Vs Califa fight is almost Tenjo Tenge level fanservice…

                                      Not that I am complaining..but...

                                      I think that so far Lucci Vs Luffy is really going well. I know Lucci hasn't even transformed yet, but I really like the choreography so far.

                                      Zoro and Sogeking...well if Zoro can beat both of these guys, I won't say I told ya so.

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                                        @Duce:

                                        Chopper entrance reminds me so much of The Shining.
                                        http://matsukita.net/blog_na/image/shining.jpghttp://img285.imageshack.us/img285/5446/pag7fr.jpg

                                        Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere's Choppy!

                                        Anyway, thanks BF for the chapter! And early, too, nice! So, it looks like Oda has found another way to prolong Luffy's fight without making him lose - make him not pay attention to it. I am very happy with this because otherwise these mega-boss fights get really predictable.

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                                          Thanks BattleFranky!

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                                          bloody buggery brilliance

                                          Lol nice 😄

                                          Anyhoo, VERY nice fight, and the Luffy-Lucci one was good too. Anyone think Chop-Kong looks like he's going to eat (Ba)Kalipha? Or that hunger look could've been something else…who knows? I think Oda's going to resolve the Nami-Kalipha-Chopper thing before moving back to Luffy-Lucci. This is a fight that needs at least a whole chapter to itself.

                                          And wouldn't rain just create more bubbles, and allow Kalipha more of a victory?

                                          All your flatlines are belong to me!!![](images/smilies/ipb/ninja.png "Ninja")

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                                            Oh yeah baby, chapter 410 FTW! IT had lots and lots of hot Luffy vs. Lucchi action so I'm satisfied. And yey for Calipha rubbing Nami's body.

                                            I'm angry and I'm wet - 4kids Luffy

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                                              I say it's time for Nami's fight to end…and if Chopper won't fight Sanji, than he may become normal again as well...
                                              I want to see Sogeking fight!

                                              paptschik and the quest for the lost signature…

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                                                First of all, thank you Battle Franky.

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                                                And wouldn't rain just create more bubbles, and allow Kalipha more of a victory?

                                                That's true. I guess the most rain can do is to wash away the "shine" (Is it soap?) on Nami so she can move normally again. Then again it looks like Nami is still mobile despite what Kalifa has done to her. Perhaps that's good enough for her. Nami doesn't fight with strength anyway. Moreover Chopper has come in to help, or does he?

                                                Off-topic:
                                                It seems that Chopper has become Nami's knight in shining armour since W7.

                                                It's nice to know that in Luffy's mind, it is save Robin first, fight pigeon guy second. I was worried he might get too carried away with fighting and forget about Robin, who is soon to be taken away. No doubt that would be his disadvantage as well on the focus part.

                                                My youtube video, one-sided sanjixusopp. Listen closely to the lyrics

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                                                • Tokoro Ataru
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                                                  When I first read that title I thought to myself:

                                                  "YOU MEAN THE BUBBLES WILL MAKE HER BOOBIES BIGGER!?!?!?!"

                                                  Sadly that's not the case, but great fanservice in this chapter…definately amps up the "yuri" potentiality between the two of them...but with Chopper in the room, it definately changes the whole battle. (I too believe he'll be "cleaned" of his monster form, then Nami will finally be back to take Calipha down once and for all)

                                                  Luffy/Lucci...that was insane! With all of his fights recently, this may be the first time we get a real match of brawn vs. brawn since...er, probably Arlong. (not too sure: maybe the Mr. 3 fight, since Wapol wasn't too bad, Croc and Eneru are Logians, Bellamy was too easy and Foxy was more like a game) I'm sort of happy there were no dialouge here...it just makes it even cooler.

                                                  BTW: The Sogesword is now called "Hanaarashi", the "Nose Storm"...nuff said.

                                                  Y'know, Negima WAS awesome…

                                                  For the first 18 volumes.

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                                                    wow. entertaing stuff. just love Usopps face on page …5 i think.

                                                    as for Nami's enlargement - those things look bigger that usual in the panel Kalifa grabs her and lubs her 😮 :laugh:

                                                    oh and Luffy is having the fight of his life. This could be a killer when animated , but then again with the anime as it is these days i really doubt it'll turn out that good. :S

                                                    and oh i totally missed that. But Choppkong has his blonde now as well :laugh: ROFLMAO so definitely not Choppzilla/jirra but a Choppkong :laugh:

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                                                      I would think rain would pop bubbles more than produce them.

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                                                        Yo thanks alot
                                                        Is Chop^kong smiling in the last page or am I imagining things?

                                                        Seeking infinity, with all my affinities.

                                                        Finding truth, like a falling fruit, my ultimate finality.

                                                        Inside my being, the outside, all things; the finite leads the way.

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                                                          Thank you, BF for the chapter! ^_^

                                                          The color spead?

                                                          IT KICK SO MUCH BUTT!!! XD

                                                          That was a interesting chapter! ^_^

                                                          Oh boy, Chopper got to Nami's battle. XD

                                                          Fanserve… yay? XD

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                                                            If Chopper reverts to normal, he might have some chalk or calcium in his medical supplies - combine with Nami's climatact rain and we have 'hard water' which creates soap scum - possibly affecting Kalifa or the negating the effect on Nami.

                                                            Hmm. A scuumy, caked skin Kalifa…?

                                                            I definitley think 'hard water' will be the solution to this...😉

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                                                              Thx BF
                                                              I wanna see kalifa rubbing Nami animated soon, though it'll be about half a year til that episode.
                                                              Highlight of this chapter for me is Zoro's new sword: Meitou 'Hana Arashi' (Nose or Flower Storm,which ever u like better)
                                                              nice naming ocean, bakalifa suits her.

                                                              ![](images/smilies/ipb/grin.png "Grin")Praise Oda for being our GOD![](images/smilies/ipb/grin.png "Grin")

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                                                                awesomeness!!!!

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                                                                  Thanks for the chapter BF !

                                                                  Great color spread, some cool fanservice and an already awesome Luffy vs Lucci. No need to wonder why I love One Piece.

                                                                  Also, Pandadude is on

                                                                  ! page 2. 😉

                                                                  Bakalifa :laugh: , nice find ocean, I thing I'll call her with that name now.

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                                                                    I know you guys going to laugh at me. When I first saw the chapter title, I thought Nami was going to eat devil fruit, and fruit was going make her abitlity change her size. Oh man, I have such a dirty mind. But this was still a great chapter.

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                                                                      Why is Sanji smiling in the color spread?

                                                                      'Cause Nami's holding his wiener! :laugh: That one was too easy…

                                                                      Thanks for the scan, Battle Franky. It's much appreciated.

                                                                      I'm like Hisotensoku: Not here to preserve peace, nor to destroy it. I certainly can't move mountains. Mostly, I'm just full of hot air.- Meh

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                                                                        Why is Sanji smiling in the color spread?

                                                                        'Cause Nami's holding his wiener! :laugh: That one was too easy…

                                                                        He made sure she has the biggest one. XD

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                                                                          Am I the only one that thinks that Lucci is superior than Luffy in the fight?

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                                                                            No thus far Lucci has the advantage. Remember all Lucci has to do is keep Luffy from passing for a certain amount of time.

                                                                            Let us hope Luffy does not copy one of Frankeys moves.

                                                                            Just imagine Gomu Gomu Coup de Poo…

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                                                                              Lucci's far superior in this fight, he's merely toying with Luffy at this point. My view is that this fight hasn't started until Luffy kicks it into Gear Second.

                                                                              I don't understand what's holding him back? He knew fighting Blueno in his normal state was just a waste of time, so why not get serious for the start this time? The stakes are too high for him to be just sparring with Lucci.

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                                                                                maybe luffy isn't even in gear 2 and thanks battle franky

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                                                                                  Thanx BF!!! Oh and maybe Luffy is warmin up like he always does?

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                                                                                    Hey, is "Nami becomes hugr" really the chapter title? I have no ability to translate, but I notice Nami doesn't become huge in this chapter. Unless it's about Calipha's confusion.

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                                                                                      Lucci's far superior in this fight, he's merely toying with Luffy at this point. My view is that this fight hasn't started until Luffy kicks it into Gear Second.

                                                                                      I don't understand what's holding him back? He knew fighting Blueno in his normal state was just a waste of time, so why not get serious for the start this time? The stakes are too high for him to be just sparring with Lucci.

                                                                                      You noticed as soon as Lucci was distracted by the box, he made a dash for the next door. It seems he may want to keep Robin from giong to the gate before he overpowers Lucci. Judging from the way he acted after beating Blueno, he probably feels he'll be tapped out after a hard fight with Lucci. Just an idea of why this might be, because I didn't want to just say Shonen logic or whatever.

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                                                                                        Hey, is "Nami becomes hugr" really the chapter title? I have no ability to translate, but I notice Nami doesn't become huge in this chapter. Unless it's about Calipha's confusion.

                                                                                        Yeah, it was stated in the spoiler thread that the title refers to Kalifa believing Chopzilla is actually a transformation of Nami's.

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                                                                                          Every week this happens to me;

                                                                                          I read the raw, and it looks like less and less happens every week. Then the translation comes out and i realize just how much happens through dialogue and i stop in mid-rant.

                                                                                          Besides, Lucci and Luffy's fight seems bitchin. Plus, Luffy hasn't gone Gear 2nd and and Lucci hasn't gone kitten mode. Oh, the tensions…

                                                                                          I'm also dying for that Sogerking/Zoro battle, mostly because the longer it's delayed, the more i'm inclined to think it'll be amazing (especially if they get freed and can use their full power).

                                                                                          When GM demands to know what my character is doing, it better not be "The Charleston"

                                                                                          Wash: Little River just gets more colorful by the moment. What'll she do next?

                                                                                          Zoe: Either blow us all up or rub soup in her hair. It's a toss-up.

                                                                                          Wash: I hope she does the soup thing. It's always a hoot, and we don't all die from it.

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                                                                                            Why can't Zoro just cut the chain between him and Sogeking off? O_o;

                                                                                            also what I liked about this chapter:
                                                                                            Not a lot of dialoge, so I didn't have to wait for an English translation which I usually do. This is getting exciting

                                                                                            about Luffy not being in Gear 2:
                                                                                            I think maybe it takes a lot of concentration and takes a lot out of him to do so and he can't just yet because Lucci keeps distracting him… also he wants to get to Robin ASAP, that's probably weighing on his mind.

                                                                                            AND GO CHOPZILLA! Man I love his transformation! even though he's a giant monster, he's still cute ^_^

                                                                                            _For with a closing door, another surely opens

                                                                                            Just you wait and see,

                                                                                            And when you look back on where we've been together

                                                                                            Wherever you may be

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                                                                                              You noticed as soon as Lucci was distracted by the box, he made a dash for the next door. It seems he may want to keep Robin from giong to the gate before he overpowers Lucci. Judging from the way he acted after beating Blueno, he probably feels he'll be tapped out after a hard fight with Lucci. Just an idea of why this might be, because I didn't want to just say Shonen logic or whatever.

                                                                                              I don't think any amount of cheap diversions or distractions will fool Lucci. Luffy may want to retrieve Robin first, without losing too much power, but it's clear to see, he's not leaving that room in his normal state.

                                                                                              Time's against him, either way he'll have no other choice sooner or later, he'll have to step it up. So why not sooner, then later?

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                                                                                                Why can't Zoro just cut the chain between him and Sogeking off? O_o;

                                                                                                It's made of Seastone. Zoro only wanted to be able to cut steel. He doesn't care about the other elements.

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                                                                                                    It's made of Seastone. Zoro only wanted to be able to cut steel. He doesn't care about the other elements.

                                                                                                    That was never stated.

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                                                                                                      That was never stated.

                                                                                                      About Zoro only wanting cutting steel? I only picked that up from the anime. You're right about it not being stated in the manga.

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                                                                                                        Man, I severely overestimated Luffy. Probably because of that big speech about not losing his friends.

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                                                                                                        Bad move, bub!

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