For those who watch Naruto, isnt Chopper eating the rumbleballs sort of like Choji eating the Sanshoku no Ganyaku because they're both fatal to whoever eats it?
Chopper and Rumbleballs
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I don't think it was ever said for the rumbleballs case that it was fatal. Just that it would hurt the user as well as anyone around them (if they were fatal, Chopper would have died the first time). Also, there's a difference with the rumbleballs, in that eating the second has basically the same effect as the first, except you lose control of the points. Then the third, you lose total control. They don't work like "power-up items" like the Naruto case, which makes me like these better than the ganyaku.
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@ultimateclima:
For those who watch Naruto, isnt Chopper eating the rumbleballs sort of like Choji eating the Sanshoku no Ganyaku because they're both fatal to whoever eats it?
Not just choji but kiba aswell. I think normal rumballs are probably like kiba's pills and the 3rd is about the same as choji's sanshoku no ganyaku except the reprocussions I think chopper will be able to deal with it as he has done before so probably the more he uses it his body might get use to it making it easier to control.
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Erm… I hope you're not implying that it was an idea which was used for the first time in Naruto, because: a) it wouldn't be true; and b) it would make you a narutard.
But yes, I also made the connection, the three pills are a cliche. Oda tends to use cliches in original and refreshing ways, but this time it didn't seem that great.
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so how long exactly is this "Monster" transformation going to last?
俺のなかまを守る為に、俺はもっと強くなる！！
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so how long exactly is this "Monster" transformation going to last?
I don't think we officially know yet but people are going by the time it usually takes for a rumble ball to wear off. However I think the amount might have a bit of a slightly prolonged effect which might stretch the time a little bit (might be wrong).
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As far as I know there isn't any official data of how long the monster-form will last. Let's just hope it wears out soon enough, cuz I have no idea how long Franky will be able to hold him off, if he'd have to - and I guess that, if Chopper doesn't return to normal soon, he will…
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As far as I know there isn't any official data of how long the monster-form will last. Let's just hope it wears out soon enough, cuz I have no idea how long Franky will be able to hold him off, if he'd have to - and I guess that, if Chopper doesn't return to normal soon, he will…
I don't think franky will hold him off partly because for one thing at the moment he's in no condition to even attempt to and by the time he gets to the fridge to refill that will give chopper lots of time to destroy what he wants to. I think either chopper might bash the tower until he wears off or bump into some other occupants and try to make a fight insue.
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DISCLAIMER: The following theory is not supported by any sort of fact whatsoever.
What if the Monster form becomes Chopper's normal form? After all, the results of taking three Rumble Balls are unpredictable. He'd have to make a "Reverse Rumble Ball" to turn back into his adorable teddy!Chopper form. At least he'd be at less risk of being molested by the likes of Porsche.
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@yaveamarth:
DISCLAIMER: The following theory is not supported by any sort of fact whatsoever.
What if the Monster form becomes Chopper's normal form? After all, the results of taking three Rumble Balls are unpredictable. He'd have to make a "Reverse Rumble Ball" to turn back into his adorable teddy!Chopper form. At least he'd be at less risk of being molested by the likes of Porsche.
Since nobody on the ship even knows the make-up of a rumble ball there gonna need a big ship to carry him if he cant revert back. I can see it know luffy yelling IKEEEEE CHoppzilla :laugh:
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@yaveamarth:
DISCLAIMER: The following theory is not supported by any sort of fact whatsoever.
What if the Monster form becomes Chopper's normal form? After all, the results of taking three Rumble Balls are unpredictable. He'd have to make a "Reverse Rumble Ball" to turn back into his adorable teddy!Chopper form. At least he'd be at less risk of being molested by the likes of Porsche.
I believe that Chopper will change in some way after this, and that gives me an idea. What if this Chopper monster is just the "normal" form of this monster? Since he ate rumble balls, what if he can turn into monster versions of all the rumble ball points? What if this is just "brain point." Note, we haven't seen much of this thing yet.
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Well, I think Chopper is like the Hulk now. Only a REALLY good friend can make him stop and calm down.
As for how long he will stay like this, I would say at least 3 minutes. Since he is supposed to wait for at least 6 hours between rumble balls, I would say that is the maximum time it will last. That's quite a big time frame.
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Maybe this will be how Soge King's "secret identity" will get revealed to all.
That would make a lot of sense actually considering before the strawhats he always felt alone and neglected so someone's compassion (ussop preferably) might just be the thing to either allow him to regain full consciousness or part of it.
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I was thinking, i rumbleballs equals 3 minutes, three rumbleballs at one go probably have a compound effect so around 9 minutes. That's demm long to go berserk :0
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and chopper now is heading to sogeking-zoro fight, he is climbing the tower, and in the middle of it is the cut made by our giraffeman ^^
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and chopper now is heading to sogeking-zoro fight, he is climbing the tower, and in the middle of it is the cut made by our giraffeman ^^
On a side note do you guys think chopper can be hurt by kaku's or any other sword or sharp weapon because kumadori's shigun didn't even leave a scratch (if it indeed it did hit) maybe in this for he can utilize fur protection to a very high degree. Aswell as some others.
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I believe that Chopper will change in some way after this, and that gives me an idea. What if this Chopper monster is just the "normal" form of this monster? Since he ate rumble balls, what if he can turn into monster versions of all the rumble ball points? What if this is just "brain point." Note, we haven't seen much of this thing yet.
That would be awesome, but in the same way it feels like some usual power up. I just think he got one monster form that works together with some of his forms.
However, The monsterform is one of the most powerful creatures we have ever seen in One piece. Kumadori is indeed strong, and Choppzilla just punched him down in one hit. Even Lucchi would have to sweat a bit to take him down. -
Maybe Chopper's monster form is the culmination of all his other form, all those point powers within one form but obviously minus the brain point
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this is sorta a different question but i was curious if that when chopper took his final rumble ball and transforms into the monster were the most prominant thoughts in his head the only ones that were left? meaning saving robin and finding the #2 key? Chopper could be going to the smell of nami or zoro sogeking because his sense are all heightend? i do assume this is choppers "ultimate" form
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this is sorta a different question but i was curious if that when chopper took his final rumble ball and transforms into the monster were the most prominant thoughts in his head the only ones that were left? meaning saving robin and finding the #2 key? Chopper could be going to the smell of nami or zoro sogeking because his sense are all heightend? i do assume this is choppers "ultimate" form
Actually for all we know this may not be chopper's 'ultimate form' just a variation….but who knows what he intends to do.
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well its kinda hard to say since weve only seen him for 2 chapters so its kinda hard to say what he can do. As a prediction tho I think that Choppers wanted poster is going to be that of his monster form
俺のなかまを守る為に、俺はもっと強くなる！！
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well its kinda hard to say since weve only seen him for 2 chapters so its kinda hard to say what he can do. As a prediction tho I think that Choppers wanted poster is going to be that of his monster form
That would be so funny to see chopper on a poster ripping the building apart then later when he sees the poster gets all staryeyed about how cool the guy is but such a monster(not knowing it's him). Another thing who the heck takes these photo's amongts all the commotion? the only photo I ever really saw taken was in the entrance to skypiea.
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@Monkey:
b) it would make you a narutard.
going through the pain of calling them "Sanshoku no Ganyaku" sells him. :ninja:
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What interests me is that presumably this form is relatively energy-intensive. Unless he had a damn big breakfast, he's gonna flare out for want of energy long before any "wear-down" occurs…and you'll drag a 900kg Chopzilla around for hours waiting for him to revert. Maybe even some sort of hypoglycemia-like symptoms in the aftermath.
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Erm, whatever…
Please guys, remember this is not the first time Chopper has taken three Rumble Balls. The flashback states clearly that he did so once in Drum, and he's still normal. Everything should go back to normal after he reverts. I expect some signs of exhaustion and perhaps a mild indigestion, though.
As to the duration, I'm digging three minutes, because that's when the current Rumble Ball will run out. Did Chopper say how much time his second Rumble would last?
Also, who's with me in being disappointed because Chopper didn't get any development in the end? Sure, Choppzilla is cool and all, but I smell a one-timer and Chopper hasn't grown either as a character or as a fighter by becoming a monster.
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Ever had an overdose of medicine? To get rid of all the pain and side-effects that may happen, you simply have to wait. it. out. As in out of your system. Chopper said himself it takes about 6 hours to get the Rumble Ball out of his system. So, logically, he should be like this for a WHILE. This is Oda's story, though, so we'll have to wait and see. And the intended effect for the Rumble Ball, to answer your question, only lasts 3 minutes as always. Side effects include nasea, diarhea, blurred vision, possible flashbacks to the '60's, and turning into a giant monster that will destroy everything in its path. Use as prescribed by a doctor, and never overdose!
And I'm also saddened by the odd plot twist. I would have found it interesting to have him end up learning Life Return during the fight, but he may learn it after this ordeal. Ya never know.
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I figure it was 3 minutes too. But the implication there is that he jumped down from the tower and destroyed a whole village in 3 minutes. Quite a feat if you ask me. So I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it were longer.
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I think this one is great. Who ever thought that Chopper could turn like that??? For me this is development enough and nobody ever will tell him weak. I just would like too ehat will happen when he eats more than 3 rumbleballs or Lucci, Kaku or Jabura gets one or maybe three…
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@Monkey:
Erm, whatever…
Please guys, remember this is not the first time Chopper has taken three Rumble Balls. The flashback states clearly that he did so once in Drum, and he's still normal. Everything should go back to normal after he reverts. I expect some signs of exhaustion and perhaps a mild indigestion, though.
As to the duration, I'm digging three minutes, because that's when the current Rumble Ball will run out. Did Chopper say how much time his second Rumble would last?
Also, who's with me in being disappointed because Chopper didn't get any development in the end? Sure, Choppzilla is cool and all, but I smell a one-timer and Chopper hasn't grown either as a character or as a fighter by becoming a monster.
well, he did use the kokutei blizzard. He was able to break through a cp9 tekkai, so thats something.
What im wondering is where hes heading. Last we saw, bakemono chopper was climing the tower, maybe he will go fuck kaku and jyabura up a little.
I think chopper is basically just going on a seek and destroy thing right now, whoever he crosses, is screwed.
as for when the rumble balls run out, I dont think time really matters, because what really matter is situation since we cant really keep time in the one piece world. What wll he be doing when he reverts back is what we should be wondering.
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I think Chopper is being driven by his unconscious desire to get that number 2 key to help Zoro and Sogeking. Deep down, he's probably still reeling off the fact that he's their only hope and the feeling may be guiding him at the moment.
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I think Chopper is being driven by his unconscious desire to get that number 2 key to help Zoro and Sogeking. Deep down, he's probably still reeling off the fact that he's their only hope and the feeling may be guiding him at the moment.
True. Hey, I thought of something. If Chopper is going to Zoro and Ussop, maybe to break the cuffs (monster chopper's full strength is up to speculation right now), Ussop would be ideal for stopping Zoro from attacking Chopper in his current state.
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@Monkey:
As to the duration, I'm digging three minutes, because that's when the current Rumble Ball will run out. Did Chopper say how much time his second Rumble would last?
Also, who's with me in being disappointed because Chopper didn't get any development in the end? Sure, Choppzilla is cool and all, but I smell a one-timer and Chopper hasn't grown either as a character or as a fighter by becoming a monster.
Chopper gave his "I will beat you in 3 minutes!" line when he took the second Rumble Ball.
While I can see what you're saying about the third Rumble Ball/Monster form, it is at least worth noting that Chopper knowingly took the risk the second and third Rumble Balls entailed. He's determined not to let those who are counting on him down (Nami, whom he took over against Kumadori for; and Zoro & Soge King, who are expecting him to get that #2 key). If it seems he has to fail, he can at least try to make sure he took Kumadori down with him.
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I don't think it was ever said for the rumbleballs case that it was fatal. Just that it would hurt the user as well as anyone around them (if they were fatal, Chopper would have died the first time). Also, there's a difference with the rumbleballs, in that eating the second has basically the same effect as the first, except you lose control of the points. Then the third, you lose total control. They don't work like "power-up items" like the Naruto case, which makes me like these better than the ganyaku.
Well…in ways it is a power up. Just instead of enhancing the strength of the person Chopper unlocks the true potential of his devil fruit. Hmm...letting him use his devil fruit to its power...basicly that is in ways enhancing his strength..
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Maybe this will be how Soge King's "secret identity" will get revealed to all.
hope you're right, I love that idea
BTW, have you ever thought that LUCCHI might use this monster form too. I can't see how Luffy would stand a chance.
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Chopper actually can beat kumadori..if only there's no time limit with his rumble ball…His already gave kumadori pain in the ash with his arm point Sakura Blossom..the "bakemono chopper" is way too strong for CP9'er except for Lucci, Kaku en Jyabura..I think..
BTW, have you ever thought that LUCCHI might use this monster form too.
I would love too see Monster Chopper Vs Leopard Lucci. I think it would be cool.
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Why do I feel like Monster Chopper's gonna do a sort of Skullgreymon/Metalgreymon thing from Digimon Adventure.
Chopper takes three Rumble Balls and mutates into this huge King Kongish Chopper as we've seen. He goes completely berserk, not knowing who's friend or foe. Then he reverts back after the effects of the three Rumble Balls wear off (he did in the flashback in 407, so I have no doubt he will again). He then goes on to perfect the dosage of the three Rumble Balls after this story arc and finally after perfecting it, transforms into a perfected version of Chopzilla, that allows him to keep his conciousness. This is only a theory of course.
I also think it'd be an interesting plot element if Lucci got his hands on some of the Rumble Balls.
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i guess its like Dr. Hyde trying to gain total control of Dr. Jekyl cept with Chopper trying to control himself as the monster. hmmm what evil lurks in the hearts of cute mascots?
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Chopper takes three Rumble Balls and mutates into this huge King Kongish Chopper as we've seen. He goes completely berserk, not knowing who's friend or foe. Then he reverts back after the effects of the three Rumble Balls wear off (he did in the flashback in 407, so I have no doubt he will again). He then goes on to perfect the dosage of the three Rumble Balls after this story arc and finally after perfecting it, transforms into a perfected version of Chopzilla, that allows him to keep his conciousness. This is only a theory of course.
WOW:ohmy: …I like your theory...hopefully Odachi sensei make it true.
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Ooo… what if Lucci or Kaku grabs a whole bunch of Rumble Balls and down like six each, thinking more is better, and blow themselves apart physically?
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Is it possible for Chopper to alternate the frequencies of his DF to the point that he's immune to the sea and can swim?
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Is it possible for Chopper to alternate the frequencies of his DF to the point that he's immune to the sea and can swim?
What do you guys think?If Chopper spent more time on R&D on the ship instead of playing with Luffy and Usopp, why not? I would like to see him find out more things abt DF that is not known yet.
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