It seems to me they may have either been rarer in the past, or perhaps people were more afraid of trying them. Take a look at Roger's Crew.
You can't really look at Roger's crew and make an assumption on society as a whole at that time.
General Devil Fruit Discussion
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Can I just clarify here that the generally accepted trans 'Gum Gum' is simply an easy translation of 'gomu gomu', Japanese onomatopoeia for rubber stretching (or specifically a 'phenomime', a word that 'sounds' something you can't actually hear, like 'bling'), and that it in no way is intended that Luffy has the properties of 'gum' in any way? This might be stating the bleeding obvious for 99% of you but I saw a reference earlier to someone discussing Luffy's 'gum' properties so I just thought I'd pop this in.
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Can I just clarify here that the generally accepted trans 'Gum Gum' is simply an easy translation of 'gomu gomu', Japanese onomatopoeia for rubber stretching (or specifically a 'phenomime', a word that 'sounds' something you can't actually hear, like 'bling'), and that it in no way is intended that Luffy has the properties of 'gum' in any way? This might be stating the bleeding obvious for 99% of you but I saw a reference earlier to someone discussing Luffy's 'gum' properties so I just thought I'd pop this in.
The true Gum Gum fruit allows the user to get stuck to pavements, enemies' fingers, shoes and the underneath tables.
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Actually I am pretty certain that it will be revealed Roger had Luffy's DF power and Shanks put the DF in reach of Luffy to ensure he ate it.
Yes I know people dispute it but until almost the end of the series unless someone says Roger had no DF ability at all. We will never know only speculate.If that was true, I think people would comment more about Luffy having the power that once belonged to the Pirate King.
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oda said a certain professor would reveal what the DF's realy are so i'm wondering what sort of cool thing a DF realy is (clearly it isn't just a fruit or something natural… )
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So we know that Caribou can draw out previously-swallowed weapons from his body, which makes his entire person hammerspace.
That's pretty damn cool.
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Im interested in Pekoms fruit. Its one of two things. 1. He is a humanoid lion species that ate a tortoise/turtle fruit. 2. He ate a turtle lion mythical zoan fruit and has the shell of a tortoise and the power of a lion. Apparently there are Chinese mythological lion turtles, which is what the Lion Turtle from avatar was influenced by.
I figure that devil fruits are less rare now we are getting to the new world. The strongest people are those lucky enough to obtain powerful devil fruits and then master their ability. They are becoming more common because we're seeing the best of the best now.
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Im interested in Pekoms fruit. Its one of two things. 1. He is a humanoid lion species that ate a tortoise/turtle fruit. 2. He ate a turtle lion mythical zoan fruit and has the shell of a tortoise and the power of a lion. Apparently there are Chinese mythological lion turtles, which is what the Lion Turtle from avatar was influenced by.
I figure that devil fruits are less rare now we are getting to the new world. The strongest people are those lucky enough to obtain powerful devil fruits and then master their ability. They are becoming more common because we're seeing the best of the best now.
I'm thinking Oda is trying to slip in a mock turtle reference in Pekoms, seeing as how Big Mom has a Alice in Wonderland vibe about it.
I'm also thinking that he was either a talking sea tortise (ala Dragon ball) who ate a lion fruit or a talking lion who ate a land turtle fruit.
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I remember someone mentioning something called "Minkmen" and I looked it up. It was one of the species worth 700,000 on the slavery sheet back in the Saobondy arc. It's possible that's the species of animal people or talking animal we've been seeing. Bepo and Pekoms could be from that race. They are talking animals with small beady eyes, but they dont seem to be awakened zoans like the Demon Guards. Usually more powerful zoans are rather large in size. So it is possible he is a Lion Minkmen with a Turtle zoan.
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I remember someone mentioning something called "Minkmen" and I looked it up. It was one of the species worth 700,000 on the slavery sheet back in the Saobondy arc. It's possible that's the species of animal people or talking animal we've been seeing. Bepo and Pekoms could be from that race. They are talking animals with small beady eyes, but they dont seem to be awakened zoans like the Demon Guards. Usually more powerful zoans are rather large in size. So it is possible he is a Lion Minkmen with a Turtle zoan.
That's possible, but if the humanoid cat on Hawkins crew is actual a cat then this doesn't work because this cat didn't have beady eyes.
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@Superbear:
That's possible, but if the humanoid cat on Hawkins crew is actual a cat then this doesn't work because this cat didn't have beady eyes.
But didn't that cat talk, or was that just in the anime?
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Well do they HAVE to be beady eyes? I see a lot of people bringing this up. Why not just say all anthropomorphic animals are probably a species by themselves, possibly being the Minkmen; regardless of what their eye looks like. The cat in Hawkin's crew has to be the same species as Pekoms, Bepo; that's the easiest conclusion right?
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That person in Hawkin's crew may very well just be a zoan or even a mask.
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That person in Hawkin's crew may very well just be a zoan or even a mask.
Or simply someone who looks like an animal.
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Yeah you guys have a point. I just thought it would be weird for him to be in Zoan form all the time. Besides, I don't see it as the hybrid version of Zoans since it looks different from Lucci, Chopper, Jabra. Neither does he look like the guys from ID.
And I don't think Masira/Shojo are in the same boat. They has some semblance of human features in their facial structure, unlike the Cat-dude.
Edit: But why does Mashira have a tail, lol?
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Or simply someone who looks like an animal.
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090908085743/onepiece/images/4/48/Masira.png
Another ape passing for a human works. A cartoon cat not so much. Black house-cat zoan that looks goofy because oda wishes it works for me.
Mashira's tail may be fake like Mag's horns.
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@MBL:
But didn't that cat talk, or was that just in the anime?
Just to clarify, the cat did talk in the aftermath of the Marineford War here [http://www.mangareader.net/103-50569-4/one-piece/chapter-581.html
I](http://www.mangareader.net/103-50569-4/one-piece/chapter-581.html) like the minkman idea. It'd make sense to not introduce this concept in a small Oda-box like he has done for the long-arm/long-leg tribes if there's complexity to it. Imagine if Bepo was introduced as just a Minkman, then people would think that Minkmen are just talking bears. Sure, Oda could have given something like Bear-Minkman if this theory is true, but not specifying might have been the right call given that might have made things too confusing for such a minor detail at the time.
Not sure about the cat. That really seems like a mask to me instead of a face, but it's a tough call since the rest of his body always seems to be covered.
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Random question: If BB was touching a submerged DF user, could said user… swim?
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No of course not Pookiez, but it wouldn't be due to BB's powers, but more because submerged DF users, by definition, cannot swim, anyway. They are hammers.
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I understand that, but if BB is sucking out the DFs powers wouldn't he also be sucking out the negative aspects of it? i.e. the innability to swim. I mean, his DF does cancel out any other DF completely, so why would it only cancel out the positive aspect?
The one problem I do see with this, however, is that if BBs hand is submerged in the water he wouldn't be able to make his DF work in order to nullify the DF. Regardless, this can be easily fixed by using bubble coating around BB and the one area he is touching on the other DF user.
I'm obviously just speculating, I'm not tryinh to applay any real application to this logic.
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We dunno if it nullifies just the actual ability of the user or all aspects of the fruit; either one seems like it could be possible.
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Anyone have any thoughts on when we might see Vegapunk and his explanation on Devil Fruits? No way he'd be saved until the end of the series. But for them to go to Marine HQ and/or any main government anytime soon would seem a bit odd, though of course any number of things could happen with Smoker that could have them running and gunning out of the new HQ and possibly running into him.
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Anyone have any thoughts on when we might see Vegapunk and his explanation on Devil Fruits? No way he'd be saved until the end of the series. But for them to go to Marine HQ and/or any main government anytime soon would seem a bit odd, though of course any number of things could happen with Smoker that could have them running and gunning out of the new HQ and possibly running into him.
I'm greatly confused about this myself. No way would the WG risk having him out in the New World no matter how great his security is.
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@S.C.:
I'm greatly confused about this myself. No way would the WG risk having him out in the New World no matter how great his security is.
But he'll probably be there, for the sake of plot.
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That sea holds the keys to all the shady things of that world he isn't in the first half.
On top of the PXs Vegapunk definitely has some massive research going on that requires him to be based in the New World. (devil fruits,VC linked stuff (e.g ancient weapons-AK tech matches/study?)whatever else he/the marines have interest in).I agree he is 500 years ahead of everyone it musn't be difficult to have mechanisms way past pirates of the New World's grasp who do not have someone like Franky who has the advantage of being familiar with some of his (older) works/labs. Lol on top of that I bet his entire island is invisible in the World. That or his lab in some crazy inaccessible place, up in the air,bottom of the sea,deep inside a mountain like on his homeisland. I mean Sentoumaru is not even guarding this guy 24/7 I think he can handle his security.
I see Vegapunk as the neutral type who acts in his own interests/according to his ideals. I wonder how much does he know/is he told/has he discovered about the world history.
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I understand that, but if BB is sucking out the DFs powers wouldn't he also be sucking out the negative aspects of it? i.e. the innability to swim. I mean, his DF does cancel out any other DF completely, so why would it only cancel out the positive aspect?
The one problem I do see with this, however, is that if BBs hand is submerged in the water he wouldn't be able to make his DF work in order to nullify the DF. Regardless, this can be easily fixed by using bubble coating around BB and the one area he is touching on the other DF user.
I'm obviously just speculating, I'm not tryinh to applay any real application to this logic.I would say yes - they revert to their human self when he touches them.
But here is the clincher - If BB has them by his hand and has removed their power he still has them by the hand and can drown them.
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@S.C.:
I'm greatly confused about this myself. No way would the WG risk having him out in the New World no matter how great his security is.
You're forgetting that his island is probably going to have an insane amount of traps and programmed defense mechanisms he built like robots and turrets to keep out any intruders, in addition to his inner base which will be so advanced that it will be impossible for anyone to bypass, even if they got through the defense..except for the SHs because of Franky's knowledge.
Plus I don't think Vegapunk is some completely loyal servant to the WG, in fact I'd say he's more of a rebel that's only working with them for access to resources and the like, as evidenced by what he did with Kuma. I doubt they could control him or what island he picked.
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That's all well and good, but why still risk losing him and have him stay at Mareijois or the Marine HQ or something? Granted, the WG makes mistakes, but they can't be that foolish.
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Because again, they have no say in the matter. Why would the WG be foolish enough to allow Vegapunk to let Kuma save the SHs and then spend two whole years protecting their ship? Because it was Vegapunk's decision, not theirs. The WG likely knows he is not fully loyal to them, but he's so important that they wouldn't risk their relationship with him over forcing him to be confined to their preferred area. As long as he keeps giving them advanced technology they'll allow him to do as he wants and they'll do their part by giving him a powerful bodyguard like Sentomaru
I mean really even the Marines are based in the New World - certainly it's a very hectic place, but it's not like pirates have complete control over it and not a single island is safe for other factions to use.
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Indeed. After all, G5, and the HQ are in the New World so it's not as if the Marines have no foothold in there. There are also likely to be other marine bases in the New World. So it's not as if pirates rules 100% of the New World.
As for Vegapunk, as valuable as he is, I'm pretty sure the WG don't want to control him as that'll strain their relationship and Vegapunk might decide not to work for them anymore. So I'm sure the WG let him decide where he want to go or stuff and send a really strong bodyguard to protect Vegapunk. Kind of a compromise.
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Just a thought while rereading certain chapters; but wouldn't people converted to stone by Hancock turn back to normal when submerged in water?
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Just a thought while rereading certain chapters; but wouldn't people converted to stone by Hancock turn back to normal when submerged in water?
Apparently not, else Momongo would have submerged his men during the wait for Hancocks answer. But he didn't, instead he asked Hancock to undo it. With him being depicted as "experienced" and "knowledgeable", this pretty much confirms that water won't undo the effect.
The thing I wonder about is…would they turn back to normal if Hancock is submerged or Seastone Handcuffed?
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Apparently not, else Momongo would have submerged his men during the wait for Hancocks answer. But he didn't, instead he asked Hancock to undo it. With him being depicted as "experienced" and "knowledgeable", this pretty much confirms that water won't undo the effect.
The thing I wonder about is…would they turn back to normal if Hancock is submerged or Seastone Handcuffed?
Well I thought of that, just thinking though that with how Devil Fruits generally seem to work they SHOULD turn back to normal (compare with Kalifa's soup fruit and Moriah's Zombies, the effect is permanent on a certain character unless removed by the user OR coming in contact with water/salt(-water))…
I just thought it'd make sense, and Momonga didn't specifically think of it; in either way, the fact that he didn't is not conclusive evidence and doesn't really "confirm" anything... I'm just thinking it makes more sense this way. That's all.I don't believe they'd turn back if she is submerged though. The effect is pretty much "cast" and then it's outside of her control unless she turns it back, like some wax Mr.3 created won't just dissolve if he's submerged (as long as his creation was done before, obviously). Like, that wax house on Little Garden most definitely still stands.
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I'm pretty sure a Wax house won't stand for very long unless it's in a winter island.
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These theories make more sense when inibriated. Tested.
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Just a thought while rereading certain chapters; but wouldn't people converted to stone by Hancock turn back to normal when submerged in water?
Because they were turned to stone via someone elses DF power, why would sea water affect them in anyway?
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Because they were turned to stone via someone elses DF power, why would sea water affect them in anyway?
Just as I've said in the post below that - because e.g. Moriah's "Zombies" turn back to normal after coming in contact with water/salt. Because they are stone due to a DF power, and DF powers naturally get reversed. Well, it was just a thought. It's most probably not the case.
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Moriah's zombies still have the shadows in them though, which are like actively related to his power. With Hancock it's fully removed and just an after effect. I doubt Magellan's poison or Mr. 3's wax would just disappear if you spilled some water on it, even though that was generated by a DF.
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What GreatLiver said. Once said DF user created said effect, it's done. Otherwise, Momonga (being a Vice Admiral, so he should know a thing or two) would've simply poured water all over his crew after Hancock turned them all to stone rather than waiting for however many hours/days for her to return to the ship and de-activate the effect…
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It wouldn't affect them any more than if Luffy beat someone up with his rubber powers and was then submerged.
That said, when Devil Fruit users die or lose consciousness, effects powered by their Fruits* tend to end. Moria, Decken, and Shiki all showed us examples of what would happen if Hancock suddenly died.
*Of a certain 'type.'
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basically if the devil fruit user is still interacting somehow with the effect, then killing the df user will end it. otherwise not. Its not like hancock was constantly doing something to keep the marines stoned. Its just a regular stone… submerge it into water nothing.
Now take morias case. If he's beaten to a pulp, the shadows he's controlling (actively) will return. come on guys, this cant be that difficult to understand can it?
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I'll Just leave this here so that people have something to talk about.
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I believe dropping the Statues that hancock makes in sea water would get them back to normal.
Why Momonga didn't do it is pretty much the question here.
His job was to get Hancock to join War.
not to fight against her, even if he did turn his man back to normal than what?
Hancock still wouldn't come. If a fight broke out than 1 ship against an entire nation of amazon lily is out of the question even if Momonga could handle himself 1 on 1 with hancock.
Sooner or later he would get defeat by sheer numbers. so fighting back was out of the Question, and was not in the governments favor at that time.!
And This statement below makes things more confusing.
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He doesn't know if his crew is dead or alive -.-
Or that Saving his crew by Sea water never crossed Momongo's mind and his just dumb. -.-
Well… I'll still stand by the Sea-salt water would turn them back to normal. Haki, Kairosaki, and Blackbeard would make things even more messed up.paramacia Devil fruits should be broken down into a few different kinds of categories like how Zoans are,(Ancient, Mythical,Normal)
than that would make this discussion easier.guys like Luffy, Mr.1, Jozu should be have special name for their devil fruits besides just paramacia Gomu or whatever....
Mr.3, Magellan, should have something which explains more.
etc... you get the picture.
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Cause putting the petrified people in the ocean wont turn them back to normal,and your just confusing yourself by making up stuff and trying to find 'evidence'
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Salt being the weakness of the zombies makes sense because in Haitian belief, tasting salt can be used to remind a zombie that they are dead, freeing it from a bokor (hoodoo sorcerer). Saltwater turning a statue into a person has no backing at all, and you are really stretching to apply a weakness to a specific sub-set of Moria's powers to other things. If you have more, stronger evidence pointing towards one likelihood than the other, that's probably the correct one. Haki wouldn't be able to break its effect, because Haki just lets you strike the 'real body' of the Devil Fruit User. Kairoseki only affects Devil Fruit Users that are touching it, by making them too weak/exhausted to use their powers. Blackbeard… might be able to suck up the power of the Mero Mero Fruit that turned people to stone, but I somehow doubt it can ever really be used to 'help' someone.
I have, however, always thought of Paramecia having a few sub-types.
Body: These people are/can become something. Luffy, Mr.1, Miss Valentines Day, Buggy and Miss Double Finger are all this type.
Sculptor: These generate things for the user. Robin, Magellan, Mr.3 and Mr.5 are of this type.
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I go by the golden rule of: "If it hasn't happened, then it doesn't exist."
The only way out of being petrified that has been proven is that one overwhelms their senses with some sort of sensation so that are not lost in Boa's infatuation.(i.e pain)
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Maybe this will be of some help. Salt is used to purify things in Japan, as a religious thing. http://blog.alientimes.org/2011/01/morijio-salt-piles-盛塩-a-deeper-look/ and here's another article that mentions the use of salt: http://www.design-training.com/fashion-design/history-of-shinto.html
That is why it destroyed the zombies. It was specifically mentioned during TB that it was salt (Brook even went and got a large bag of salt specifically for that purpose) not the water.
Zombies are, in and of themselves, associated with unclean and evil. Purifying them to destroy them makes total sense. There isn't that element of unclean and evil to stone figures. Water (all water, not just salt water) weakens DF users, but doesn't make their power null and void, as proven way back during the Arlong Arc, when Luffy was under water, but his neck still stretched to allow him to breathe, thus the stone figures created by Hancock would not turn back to humans by use of water, salt or not.
Unless I'm missing something in your argument? If so, my apologies.
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@AppleSauce:It would seem I'm not being clear enough.
Mr.1 was hit while he had Seastone's cuffs on him. Like i said before**,** being hit with a weakness of yours,seastone or haki your body can be damaged/touched like a normal body, but your body still posesses the ability and stayed the entire time a DF-body and by that less vulnerable as your ordinary body. The Seastone acted as the weakness/Haki to damage Mr.1 vulnerable Steel Body.Same as how Enel was hit by Wiper.
Its the same as how Smoker is able to hit Luffy with his Jutte.Luffy's body is tough but it doesn't mean he can only take damage from Piercing/slashing attacks. His Highly resistant to Blunt damage, Bullets would fall into this Same Blunt damage category. Luffy's received blows before which hurt him like that of a Dials and Lucci.
Luffy isn't Immune to Bullets or Blunt Damage. Just very highly resistant.
Luffy is Immune to Lighting.The point I was trying to make with the Amazon lily Haki users shooting arrows at luffy was to show that Bullets would have the same effect. If bullets are shot at luffy with Haki than he would take damage. It would not bounce off of him. It would only mean that Haki and Seastone were able to bypass his Highly resistant rubber body which would make him take damage from a haki imbued bullets. Its the same as how Smoker is able to hit Luffy with his Jutte.
Lighting on the other hand would not affect him at all whether his being hit with lighting imbued with haki or with Seastones cuffs on him getting electrocuted.(Buggy executing luffy at the Platform, Luffy was ok Buggy was burnt.) Luffy would not take damage. He is still Rubber, Haki or seastone Does not remove Devil Power.He is Immune to Lighting as a rubber man but in a Weak state to blunt damage with Seastone on him. Luffy is not Immune to Blunt Damage.
Logia's are in ability Form all the time. They just have been given more control than the Permanent Paramecia types.
Logia's in Seastone cuffs , being hit with a weakness of yours,seastone or haki your body can be damaged/touched like a normal body, but your body still posesses the ability and stayed the entire time a DF-body and by that less vulnerable as your ordinary body.
They still posses their power but take hit due to the effect of the Seastone, Just like Haki. If a bullet were to hit them in this state, it would hurt them the way it would hurt luffy.Think off Logia's as people who have gotten their DNA changed to the ability they have become.
Just like Luffy who's is Rubber from skin to bone.@Refil, You need to read my post. your misunderstanding me.
Now, for those who read my previous. I would like to clarify myself further.
Zoan(Activate)=Marco, Chopper, Lucci, Kaku[Fruit users of this kind need to Transform to activate their ability, Seastone negates them from doing so]
We've seen this in action already, Marco was shot with cuffs on and he couldn't Activate his powers.Paramecia Type A(Activate)=WB, Mr.2, Mr.3, Law, and a lot of people in this category.[Fruit Users of this kind need to Activate their abilities, Seastone negates them from doing so]
We've also seen this in action already, Robin couldn't Activate her powers, Neither could Mr. 3 until he was freed by Buggy.Paramecia Type "DNA"(Permanent)=Luffy, Mr.1, Buggy[Fruit users of this kind are in their ability state No matter what, due to changes to the molecular level, even when under the effect of Seastone, Except when in contact with Blackbeard]
Now this one got pretty confusing for me due to my misunderstandings. I thought that Luffy was Immune to Bullets/Blunt Damage but in fact his not. His Immune to Lighting.
Luffy is only highly resistant to bullets/Blunt Damage. So If a Bullet hit him when his Cuffed with Seastone it could prove deadly(Amazon Lily Archers Piercing walls). Since Seastone Acts as Haki when in contact with an ability user + Added bonus's.Buggy is completely Immune to cutting attacks even with Haki or Seastone.
Logia Type "DNA"(Permanent)= Kizaru,Akainu, AoiKiji, BB, Ace, Enel[Fruit users of this kind are in their ability state No matter what due to changes to the molecular level, even when under the effect of Seastone, Except when in contact with Blackbeard]They just have been given more control than the Permanent Paramecia types. When cuffed with Seastone they will take damage from everything as long as they are not Immune to what they are being attacked with. Seastone Acts as Haki when in contact with an ability user + disrupts the Power so he can't use it. It does not remove it like BB.
So if Akainu is Immune to Fire He would not receive any damage from fire even when in Seastone Cuffs. He is still a Magma man even under such conditions. anything else his not immune to will hurt him.So Blackbeard is Insane. Nothing in the world Removes the power of the ability user except himself.
Edit: Now I have a complete understanding of how Haki, Seastone, and Blackbeard work.
Thanks guys.Hmm… Seastone on Luffy would still keep him Rubber. He would take damage like his being hit by Haki even by Blunt attacks.(Example, What Smoker does to him) We can Agree to this much.
Same would go for Enel. His still lighting But Seastone Acts as Haki when in contact with an ability user + disrupts the Power so he can't use it. But his still Lighting. So Enel Took the Hit because Seastone is another form of hitting ability users with added effects that Haki does not have which Prevents the Ability user from activating his powers.
Mr. 1 would fall into the same Category as well. He is Still Steel like Luffy is Rubber, and with Seastone cuffs on him he would take damage from anyone. Its just another Form of Haki with added Bonus of Disrupting the Ability users power and preventing them from activating. So when Mr.1 was hit, He was hit with Haki (even though the attacker didn't use Haki) cause that's the effect of the Seastones. Its just another way of hitting Ability users with Added Bonus.
I'll stick with Don Quichotte De Flaming****o
Now being hit with a weakness of yours,seastone or haki your body can be damaged/touched like a normal body, but your body still posesses the ability and stayed the entire time a DF-body and by that less vulnerable as your ordinary body.
Thanks Guys, now I have proper understanding of this stuff more Clearly. With your opinions i was able to come to a Reasonable conclusion.
Edit: To confirm my point. I would like to add this.
Buggy Is a Split man. He would still be a Split man Even when in Seastone Cuffs. This is how i think he was able to escape.Even with Seastone cuffs on him he was able to free himself, Since the seastones prevent him from activateing his powers. He must have told someone to cut his arms, so when the arms came off he took off the Seastone Cuffs and Escaped.
If Blackbeard was to Cut Buggy than Buggy would be dead. Since he removes the Ability user Power Completely. His the only one that can do that.
Buggy is Pretty much immortal to any Slicing attacks even with Haki or Seastone. He will not receive any damage from such attacks.
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Thanks MasterKingJC
You're welcome.
And another thing I would like to add. I don't think logias are constantly in their element/nature form. If that was true, then anybody or anything that touched them would be affected by their powers.
Example: Anyone/anything that is touched by Enel would pass right through his body and be electrocuted, but yet we've seen him eating fruits and holding objects and they weren't electrocuted nor did they slip through his hands. -
lol… are we really gonna go that deep into this.
There cloths should be burnt as well. Than they would be walking naked.
Its like Oda said about buggy, when someone asked him why he doesn't bleed when he splits.
Oda basically said its a comic, do you want kids to see a guy with blood all over place flying around...I think Vanessa cleared this issue in this same topic a while ago.
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lol… are we really gonna go that deep into this.
There cloths should be burnt as well. Than they would be walking naked.
Its like Oda said about buggy, when someone asked him why he doesn't bleed when he splits.
Oda basically said its a comic, do i want kids to see a guy with blood all over place flying around..Isn't the whole point of the Chop Chop fruit is that the user is impervious to be wounded by cuts and slashes?
Why would Buggy be bleeding in the first place?
Plus, even if their clothes weren't burnt, they would always be walking around looking like humanoid versions of their elements.
Now imagine Ace strolling through a town looking like the Human Torch…that's what it would be like if their bodies were permanently changed.
