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      Well I don't think that Calipha's devil fruit would affect her dokuri which is only a measure of physical abilities (speed/strength?).

      I'm wondering Calipha reacted quick enough, she was obviously caught off gaurd, yet she could make herself into a bar of soup before lightning forming just inches above her reached her.

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        @dudeinthewater:

        I remeber that Oda sensei once mentioned how he's not very good at drawing female characters…..

        After looking at Nami, Robin and Calipha, I'd like to pat his back now and say "you're doing good son, you're doing reeeal good" T-T (happyness)

        Welllll, I started to read OP 'cuz it seemed like the only manga without fanservice. :happy: But now…sigh
        Although after seeing putting her hands all over Nami's "area" while covered in bubbles and soap, well, I guess I don't mind so much. :biggrin:

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          About the cover story, anyone remember what happened to Mr. 3 and Bon Clay?

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            @IT'S:

            Maybe Kumadori will come back.
            And whatta you mean about "too easily," infidel?? He fought Kumadori for, like, half of the last chapter! The monster form was clearly the conclusion. :unsure: …Let's hope.

            Hah, infidel !:laugh: Thats a new one.

            Well, Kuma looks down for the count to me- what with the blank (both of them) eyes and all .
            I say "too easily" because half of last chapter was, as you recall, Chopper being massacred. This chapter, we had one single page of Kumadori doing anything but taking hits- I'd have expected him to at least use kamie and soru.
            And by "conclusion" I mean that it wasn't a single move that ended the fight.

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              Whatta you mean? I giant monster punch that sends you flying away is a single move. :mellow:

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                I wonder why Chopper is climbing the tower. Think he's driven to get that number 2 key subconsciously?

                If all my talents and powers were taken away from me by some inscrutable Providence, and I had my choice of keeping but one, I would unhesitatingly ask to be allowed to keep the Power of Speaking, for through it, I would quickly recover all the rest.

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                  Hah, infidel !:laugh: Thats a new one.

                  Well, Kuma looks down for the count to me- what with the blank (both of them) eyes and all .
                  I say "too easily" because half of last chapter was, as you recall, Chopper being massacred. This chapter, we had one single page of Kumadori doing anything but taking hits- I'd have expected him to at least use kamie and soru.
                  And by "conclusion" I mean that it wasn't a single move that ended the fight.

                  I think there was a point where he attempted or did shigun but I don't think it had much effect also the way things are looking it seem chopper is fast as well as powerful because he just suddenly turned round and punched kumadori into the ground when he had his back to him.

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                    @ooshi78:

                    nami: wow, how sexy… i'm honestly happy that there's a secratary like this!!

                    nami: ---not, it's not like i'm a guy!!

                    BRING ON THE YURI!!! (well someone had to say it)

                    Y'know, Negima WAS awesome…

                    For the first 18 volumes.

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                      @DeadJustice:

                      I wonder why Chopper is climbing the tower. Think he's driven to get that number 2 key subconsciously?

                      Choppzilla could probably just break the seastone handcuffs.

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                        … and sea stone handcuffs nullify his power.

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                          Could somebody Please post a mirror?I can't get to Ocean's site…

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                            Calipha's fruit removes all things, even power as well as dirt.
                            thanks to ooshi78 for the translation 🙂

                            That's quite the power, she can disable you and then beat the crap out of you. i wonder what the weakness to foam is. any ideas??? i'm clueless :?:

                            WARNING (Explicit Dialog)!!

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                              Have to say aswell the way choper just threw kuma away was like 'pa..and you call yourself a cp9 ..shameful i'm gonna go find me a real challenge'. I can't help but laugh at how good this chapter is tho.

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                                Yeah, Chopper finally looks cool. Even when he was in full badass form he still looked stupid. The only time Chopper didn't look retarded was his horn point transformation; that kicked ass.

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                                  The link doesn't seem to work, if Ocean's site down?

                                  Chuck Norris challenged Sanji into a roundhouse kick battle. This was marked in Genesis World Record as the worst mistake ever made.

                                  Chuck Norris did not only get a full course meal but also the dessert…

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                                    It worked for me an hour ago…

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                                      @IT'S:

                                      Choppzilla could probably just break the seastone handcuffs.

                                      why should he be able to do this, becauso of his new form and strenght or because of your wishes:ninja:?

                                      i think zorro should be able to cut them of, after he learned to cut iron, seastone will be the next…but in this arc it is a game to find the right key so oda won´t change^^

                                      — finally back — wohoo —

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                                        a quick ysi-mirror for worst cases
                                        http://download.yousendit.com/AB9A77DF7A928B27

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                                          @Riksu:

                                          a quick ysi-mirror for worst cases
                                          http://download.yousendit.com/AB9A77DF7A928B27

                                          you are GOD (but jojo is the true god) ^0^

                                          thanx!!

                                          Chuck Norris challenged Sanji into a roundhouse kick battle. This was marked in Genesis World Record as the worst mistake ever made.

                                          Chuck Norris did not only get a full course meal but also the dessert…

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                                            I doubt that Sanji is going to tackle that monster now…

                                            You could have Chopper interrupt the Nami/Calipha fight, interrupt the Zoro&Sogeking/Kaku&Jayabura fight, or interrupt both by pushing over and destroy the top half of the tower.

                                            I hope that Calipha is beaten quickly so we can get to the Tag Team fight and start up Lucchi v. Luffy.

                                            You come at the king, you best not miss.

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                                              Chopper needs a chill pill…

                                              Chuck Norris challenged Sanji into a roundhouse kick battle. This was marked in Genesis World Record as the worst mistake ever made.

                                              Chuck Norris did not only get a full course meal but also the dessert…

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                                                @Riksu:

                                                a quick ysi-mirror for worst cases
                                                http://download.yousendit.com/AB9A77DF7A928B27

                                                THANKS RIKSU ^^, I was going mad…

                                                Thanks also to Jojo ,but they overdid it this time with his windmill logo ...it's quite annoying...

                                                and can't wait to see the Hentai version of page 8 (I guess in it Sanjy will have his revenge on kalipha)!!!

                                                GREAT WORK ODA!!!

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                                                  This new chopper is really fast and I think he can sense danger or something and he can't talk…

                                                  While for Nami...I don't see how she can turn back to her normality and then beat a soap.

                                                  Chuck Norris challenged Sanji into a roundhouse kick battle. This was marked in Genesis World Record as the worst mistake ever made.

                                                  Chuck Norris did not only get a full course meal but also the dessert…

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                                                    There's no way I'm the only one that thinks Califa's attack looks like a stand's arms coming out of her own.

                                                    AWA AWA AWA AWA AWA!

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                                                    It is still unexplained by modern science!!"_

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                                                      Thanks. But wasnt this week the double chapter?

                                                      Sig made by AngelzRfalling.

                                                      Gary "Iceman" Martin. RIP.

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                                                        This chapter was another freaking amazing one, considering Enies Lobby is the best fucking arc ever.

                                                        @Anime:

                                                        Thanks. But wasnt this week the double chapter?

                                                        I was thinking the same thing, actually. Oh well! This chapter owned like nobodies business anyways.

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                                                          For the people who can't get to ocean's site, here is a torrent.

                                                          http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BRaw-Manga%5D%20One%20Piece%20408(lq).torrent

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                                                            @Anime:

                                                            Thanks. But wasnt this week the double chapter?

                                                            Double issue doesn't mean double chapter…

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                                                              Calipha's fruit removes all things, even power as well as dirt.
                                                              thanks to ooshi78 for the translation 🙂

                                                              That's quite the power, she can disable you and then beat the crap out of you. i wonder what the weakness to foam is. any ideas??? i'm clueless :?:

                                                              Wind

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                                                                Maybe Fire or Wind disables her. But i think nothing does the trick and she is like Mr3 a quasi-logia Paramecia. The way to disable her is send her flying with a kick.

                                                                Thanks a lot ooshi78 for the translation and all the other guys for the raw (not ocean).

                                                                baka^ni

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                                                                  hm.. and wind is caused by differences in pressure between two areas… or by heat differences...
                                                                  hm... sounds sort of familiar to someone's ability doesn't it?

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                                                                    For the record, Kumadori got messed up. Seriously, his face was re-designed. Another CP9 member down. Chopper deserves a bounty after all of this since he is now offically a threat.

                                                                    Calipha vs. Nami is turning out to be an interesting battle. I approve of all future Nami/Calipha doujins for the future!

                                                                    Luffy vs. Lucci is going to be one hell of a battle. Awaits Luffy to punches out Hattori

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                                                                      Here´s the combined spread as always. :happy:

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                                                                        this chapter is awesome, can't wait for a scanlation X3 thanks to whoever contributed, and for posting that mirror (couldn't get to ocean's site either >.<;)

                                                                        Chopper…. please don't die ;__;
                                                                        I couldn't help but get really excited when Luffy finally reached Lucci Spandam and Robin :content:

                                                                        and way to go with the Nami/Califa fanservice, Oda XD i think when he said that he couldn't draw girls... that had to be a long time ago, because i noticed how much he's improved on that for a while. so what if they're disproportioned, i like the way they look. and the Awa Awa no Mi cracks me up... its so weird yet i want to see how Nami is going to defeat her! Go Nami!! :yatta:

                                                                        hoping for future Zoro vs Kaku <3<3<3

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                                                                          Awesome, thanks for translation ooshi! awaits the rest

                                                                          Aha, I knew it, I knew Franky was going to run into Chopper.
                                                                          And I guess the bubble/soap fruit was predictable, although I thought it could have been something to do with glass. It's so like Oda to have the powers be really cheesy looking on the surface, but deadly in action. I like how she turned herself into a giant CP9 bar of soap. XD

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                                                                          YEAH! Finally, Luffy facing Lucci! Nice entrance. ^_^

                                                                          the other half will rise from the oceanizer floor

                                                                          Haha. XD

                                                                          Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible. - Frank Zappa

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                                                                            As usual, thanks everyone for the chapter.

                                                                            Did you notice how Oda doesn't show us the hand Monster Chopper used to attack Franky in the panel where he's climbing up the tower? Does it mean he's holding Franky like King Kong does with Ann Darrow? That'd be f*%§ing hilarious.

                                                                            Also, Spandam is taking Robin to the Gate of Justice while Luffy battles Lucci. It means another Strawhat will have to take on Spandam, cause I don't think Luffy can beat Lucci fast enough.

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                                                                              Hehe, I did get an image of Choppzilla climbing the tower of justice with Franky in his hands, though I doubt that will happen. XD

                                                                              Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible. - Frank Zappa

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                                                                                As per my prediction, time for Chopper to take down Kaku and Jyabura.

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                                                                                  That's quite the power, she can disable you and then beat the crap out of you. i wonder what the weakness to foam is. any ideas??? i'm clueless :?:

                                                                                  Water, I'd guess, to at least wash it off. Maybe grease? But that might be getting a little too fanservicey. 👅

                                                                                  Great chapter, once again. ^^

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                                                                                    @IT'S:

                                                                                    Whatta you mean? I giant monster punch that sends you flying away is a single move. :mellow:

                                                                                    It's true that the 2-page punch was devastating, but Kumadori got up afterwards. It was the ensuing pummeling of him that brought him down for good.
                                                                                    By "single move" I meant that every other major battle is concluded by a named move - In Choppers case, Kokute Roseo and Cross on Chessmariomo and Gedatsu.
                                                                                    The only exception I can think of is Usopp vs. Chew

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                                                                                      @lammyduck:

                                                                                      As per my prediction, time for Chopper to take down Kaku and Jyabura.

                                                                                      Chopper taking out Kumadori, Kaku, AND Jyabura? No, that won't happen.

                                                                                      Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible. - Frank Zappa

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                                                                                        Thanks for the new chapter oceanizer and anyone else who helped out.

                                                                                        So how long did the massacre of kumadori take, 2 maybe 3 minutes because it doesn't seem like this monster form may go away any time soon.

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                                                                                          If it were 3 minutes, he'd be outta his monster form. Well, assuming that the same rules apply as any other form, and I don't see why not.

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                                                                                            Hey, Chopper pulled a King Kong! (tower climbing)

                                                                                            Thanks for the chapter, and also the translation by ooshi! Kalifa's DF revealed, Lucci meets Luffy and Kumadori's out… and Crocodile becomes the Pirate King Hero! Nice secret desire, pimp 😛

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                                                                                              i'm hoping chopper remains in monster form for 6hrs.
                                                                                              this seems to be the duration of time that the rumble ball stays in his system

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                                                                                                Crocodile becomes the Pirate King Hero! Nice secret desire, pimp 😛

                                                                                                Actually, that's Mr.1 that wanted to become the hero. Croc just wanted to be Pirate King

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                                                                                                  @captain:

                                                                                                  So how long did the massacre of kumadori take, 2 maybe 3 minutes because it doesn't seem like this monster form may go away any time soon.

                                                                                                  I'd guess about 30 seconds to a minute from the time Chopper started beating up Kumadori to the time Kumadori was thrown from the tower.

                                                                                                  One Piece: Grand Line Bout - a fighting game made by fans, for fans!

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                                                                                                    It could be possible that Chopper's monster form does wear off quickly on its own, leaving Chopper unconcious. But I think it would be more interesting to see him go off in a rampage and cause even more damage to Enies Lobby.

                                                                                                    You know what would be kind of funny…is if Chopper still has a faint cognisance of his former self, and Franky destracts him by drinking a bunch of wierd stuff and making him laugh. XD

                                                                                                    @changsho:

                                                                                                    Thanks for the chapter, and also the translation by ooshi! Kalifa's DF revealed, Lucci meets Luffy and Kumadori's out… and Crocodile becomes the Pirate King Hero! Nice secret desire, pimp 😛

                                                                                                    Wait, THAT'S what that was? XD I couldn't figure out what that meant. Oh cripes.

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                                                                                                      @captain:

                                                                                                      So how long did the massacre of kumadori take, 2 maybe 3 minutes because it doesn't seem like this monster form may go away any time soon.

                                                                                                      It felt like less the a minute to me.
                                                                                                      I don't think he will stay in monster form for very long. It would be overkill if he destroyed and killed half of CP9.
                                                                                                      But the way he smashed Kumadori was very Hulk/King Kong like.
                                                                                                      The NamiXCalipha fight is realy going to get dirty, or clean😉

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                                                                                                        Actually, I have to say that what I liked the most of this chapter was the cover story. It was really sweet of Crocodile to secretly dream about being the Pirate King; I sort of went "Aww". Oda has let us see the more tender part of his personality, it's like he'd always innerly regretted having become one of the Seven Corsairs because it meant betraying his dream…

                                                                                                        "To expresso or to latte, that is the question: Whether 'tis tastier on the buds to choose white mocha over plain, or to take a cup to go. Or a mug to stay, or extra cream or have nothing, and by opposing them, end one's heartache: To froth, to sprinkle: perchance to drink!" Member of AIDS!

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