So amny differing opinions on the conclusion of Enies Lobby. I like the Sogeking gives Luffy the keys theory; which might give us a Sanji/Zoro combo attack. I'm an official supporter of Calipha having a bubble logia, as that power if cool. >.< I think we all agree that the Mugiwaras are gonna have ginormous bounties after EL. I think Robin, Luffy, Zoro, and Sogeking will get the highest; as Sogeking will no doubt be overestimated.
Chapter 407 "Monster" Discussion
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I dont know if this was brought or not, but Chopper says that he hopes nobody comes into the kitchen when he takes the 3rd rumleball. Is it because he knows what happens or is it he proably couyldnt control his forms?
he knows he goes crazy. he tested it before, when he lives with the with doctor lady.
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The less defined muscles look eerie, actually. I'm expecting someone with rippling pex to easily tear stuff apart; looking at Chopper, one can obviously tell he's monstrously powerful, but he doesn't look it, and that creates "uncertainty", which is the core driving force of all suspense thrillers
I TOTALLY agree. He looks like a monster, plain and simple and his eyes and body just accencuate that. He doesn't look like some amazing super-powerful thing, he looks like a giant monster that can just take on anything without hesitation and that's way more frightening than a six-pack.
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Even if Sanji doesn't get a fight, he'll probably screw over the main bad guys in some way like he's been doing since the Arlong arc. He freed Luffy to fight Arlong, freed the SHs in Rainbase after tricking Crocodile, and messed Enel's maxim. There's a lot that Sanji can do, but keep in mind he's been pretty messed up. A major fight just seems impractical now. Even if he fights Jyabura, people with be like, "He beat up Jyabura even after that beating from Calipha!" He'll seem like a weak opponent for Sanji, while currently he's a strong opponent for Ussop.
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Even though some (mostly Usopp fans) are saying they'd be pissed if Sanji "steals" Usopp's fight (some might argue if it was ever Usopp's fight to begin with?), but for me, this sudden role reversal pisses me off more. And I think the idea of having a person who was jumped and beaten by a bunch of no-names back in W7 suddenly defeat one of the top fighters in CP9 kind of pisses me off as well as there's an air of unbelievability about it even within the fantastic world of One Piece.
First of all…that ain't role reversal. It's not like Usopp was the weak one and Sanji strong and now it's different. The point is, that ALL the strawhats are strong. And Oda has to prove so, that's also why Nami's and Chopper's fights are quite important - to show that it ain't just "THE LUFFY-ZORO-SANJI-SUPER-FIGHTING SHOW! Now featuring the weak side characters Usopp, Nami and Chopper".
And the fact that Usopp was beaten back in W7 already IS unbelieveable. I mean...if he would have used half of the attacks he used against Luffy, he alone could have destroyed the whole FF home. And Nami and Chopper alone would also be able to do so.
Why not be happy, that Oda happens to give ALL the main characters their great moments? I mean...I love Bleach and Naruto, but if there is one thing that annoys me, it's the fact that we only see Ichigo/Renji/Rukia/Naruto/Sasuke/Sakura act and fight all the time, while other important (or at least popular) characters are ignored. Oda doesn't do that. Oda doesn't say "alright, let's make Zoro, Sanji and Luffy even stronger, let them blow up the planet...and what about Usopp, Nami and Chopper? Meh, they will watch while the almighty 3 save Robin." Oda actually treats the characters (and thus their fans) with dignity - even those characters the majority of people might consider "lame" (like Usopp). -
damn… awesome chapter! and talk about fanservice w/ Califa, geez XD
as always, you rule Battle Franky!
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paptschik posted right before i finished, so i just gotta say, well said there! I couldn't agree more with you on that.
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@Mr.:
I'm an official supporter of Calipha having a bubble logia, as that power if cool. >.< I think we all agree that the Mugiwaras are gonna have ginormous bounties after EL.
It would be cool if Calipha did have a Bubble Logia, but I think that its a Paramecia devil fruit because if it was Logia in the fight with Sanji she would have turned into bubbles when she got slammed to the ground.
I think that the thing that Calipha did to Sanji back in 403 was that she encased him in some sort of thick, hard, bubble. He does look clean. I also agree with that thing about the soap bubbles on Nami's legs.
I definetly think that the World Government is going to give them a huge bounty because they're gonna want to get them back for Enies Lobby.
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wait, so what exactly is Califa's DF power? i was under the assumption that it was a glass power O.o;
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Thats what everyone used to think back in chapter 403. We are still unsure of what Califa's devil fruit power is. Most of us now think that it is some kind of bubble devil fruit.
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No doubt Oda had to take a sick week to recover from the massive blood loss due to nosebleeds after drawing Califa.
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Speaking of bounties, my predictions for future Mugiwara bounties (in belly currency and in descending order):
Luffy: 400 million (He lead the attack on EL, so naturally, he gets the highest, and most likely because of his [eventual] defeat of Lucci. Leader of Straw Hats)
Robin: 300 million (Her knowledge about the "weapon" will bring down the government if ever revealed to the world. She must be "silenced." [Assuming the Strawhats get out of EL intact, the WG knows she's alive, the more money put on her head, the faster they might get her back)
Franky: 300 million (Same reason as Robin's, though I'm sure Spandam will put in a good word for him… -________-)
Zoro: 200 Million (For defeating T-Bone and [eventually] Kaku.)
Sanji: 100 million (Taking out nearly an entire train of marines by himself during a highly top secret ""Government" mission )
–-----------Sogeking: 90 Million (aiding Sanji's "adventure" on the train)
Chopper: 80 million (His super-saiyan form is going to cause some damage. His rumble ball might be valuable research material)
Nami: at least 50 Million (the fact that she took out quite a few marines with that ClimaTact of hers)
Speaking of Calipha's DF, I'm guessing it's going to be bubble-related, too...
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Attention Sanji Lovers:
The sky is not falling.
Even though Sanji's best moments have always been about self-sacrifice, if Oda lets him sit this one entirely out again, he'll have a horde of angry fans ready to chew him apart. It was bad enough he left him as he was in Skypiea (even though it was awesome) but if he did that twice, there'd be no mercy. Sanji will do something and it will be amazing.
Remember, while there are a LOT of fights going on, they're all gonna need a lot of help when that tower starts to go… Not to mention the crew might need help if things with Chopper turn sour for a bit. There are plenty of opportunities for our man to shine. Have faith.
About Caulipha's ability, well, has anyone found her animal connection yet? It could be something obscure like Fukurou's nature of attack but isn't it possible the DF could have animal-like properties?
She stings right? What if she has wasp-like venom or something?
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Wouldn't it be funny if by some shocking twist of events Sanji ended up kicked Kaku's ass. Not that there's any chance of that happening, but everyone already loves Zoro, and he really doesn't need another "I AM STRONGER NOW" kind of thing. So, I'm just saying it would pretty funny if that happened.
Speaking of bounties, my predictions for future Mugiwara bounties (in belly currency and in descending order):
Luffy: 400 million (He lead the attack on EL, so naturally, he gets the highest, and most likely because of his [eventual] defeat of Lucci. Leader of Straw Hats)
Robin: 300 million (Her knowledge about the "weapon" will bring down the government if ever revealed to the world. She must be "silenced." [Assuming the Strawhats get out of EL intact, the WG knows she's alive, the more money put on her head, the faster they might get her back)
Franky: 300 million (Same reason as Robin's, though I'm sure Spandam will put in a good word for him… -________-)
Zoro: 200 Million (For defeating T-Bone and [eventually] Kaku.)
Sanji: 100 million (Taking out nearly an entire train of marines by himself during a highly top secret ""Government" mission )
–-----------Sogeking: 90 Million (aiding Sanji's "adventure" on the train)
Chopper: 80 million (His super-saiyan form is going to cause some damage. His rumble ball might be valuable research material)
Nami: at least 50 Million (the fact that she took out quite a few marines with that ClimaTact of hers)
Speaking of Calipha's DF, I'm guessing it's going to be bubble-related, too...
I'm probably wrong thoughNo offense but your numbers are just riduculous. We've been through this b4…
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Speaking of bounties, my predictions for future Mugiwara bounties (in belly currency and in descending order):
Luffy: 400 million (He lead the attack on EL, so naturally, he gets the highest, and most likely because of his [eventual] defeat of Lucci. Leader of Straw Hats)
Robin: 300 million (Her knowledge about the "weapon" will bring down the government if ever revealed to the world. She must be "silenced." [Assuming the Strawhats get out of EL intact, the WG knows she's alive, the more money put on her head, the faster they might get her back)
Franky: 300 million (Same reason as Robin's, though I'm sure Spandam will put in a good word for him… -________-)
Zoro: 200 Million (For defeating T-Bone and [eventually] Kaku.)
Sanji: 100 million (Taking out nearly an entire train of marines by himself during a highly top secret ""Government" mission )
–-----------Sogeking: 90 Million (aiding Sanji's "adventure" on the train)
Chopper: 80 million (His super-saiyan form is going to cause some damage. His rumble ball might be valuable research material)
Nami: at least 50 Million (the fact that she took out quite a few marines with that ClimaTact of hers)
Dude, Sogeking needs to get higher than that for a bounty. Don't forget, he also torched the WG's Flag.
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how many rumble balls does chopper have?
when does he create them since he left his town?
where can he found the ingredients to made them in the middle of the sea, W7, or other places they visit?nice chapter, thanks bf
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I have a feeling, getting back on topic, that Franky is either going to get owned by Monster Chopper or help Nami in her fight against Califa. Seeing as he was talking about going to help get the #2 key for Zoro and Usopp in this chapter after discovering Fukuro's #4 key.
Then again, he might just have to hold his own against Chopper after Kumadori's demise (until the end of the rumble ball's time limit) and Sanji might then recover in time to help "fight" Califa by protecting Nami-san.
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I'd like it if all except for Luffy ended up getting the same amount. Like, 150 million bellis, and Luffy got 200. But that's just me talking.
Anyone else think that the next chapter might have someone else running into Chopper, and going, "HOLY SHIT IT'S CHOPPERMAN! I WANT YOUR AUTOGRAPH!" The thought really amuses me.
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Oh, that's right. We all forgot Nami's second emulation of Eneru; she's turning into a fine false goddess.
Heh, yeah, and she's not even a fighter, for god's sake. It'd be pretty weird IMO if a navigator beat a trained weapon, devil fruit user like Calipha all by herself. Ok, she had luck against Doublefinger, but again..?
I don't mind Sanji facing Jyabura (and that wouldn't surprise me at all), but he helping Nami is much more likely and i sincerely hope that happens. I don't think great characters like her and Usopp (who are not top fighters, and never will be) needs to fight demons to shine or prove their strenght. -
What I think will happen is this…First they get a hold of the bounty list and see Luffy's bounty has been raised. Then they see Sanji's bounty, which is a little higher than Zoro's old bounty. Sanji gets excited until Zoro's new bounty is revealed which is twice his original. Then one by one, everyone's bounty is revealed, and all are higher than Sanji. Then Sanji gets sulky. Then we (OP fans) laugh at Sanji's sulkiness.
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First; if Califa's power is to drain strength, and Nami feels fine after a few minutes, why is Sanji "out" at all? Hell, why would he be "out" otherwise?
Having said that, though, I doubt Nami's getting any help for her fight, be it from Sanji or Franky. After all, she needs to show her own strength just as much as anybody else.
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@omae:
I TOTALLY agree. He looks like a monster, plain and simple and his eyes and body just accencuate that. He doesn't look like some amazing super-powerful thing, he looks like a giant monster that can just take on anything without hesitation and that's way more frightening than a six-pack.
Mind if I second you on that?
Thanks for the RAW BF.
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I think the earlier mentions on Calipha's fruit being Bubble-Power might have be true. I just checked, and a Japanese word for bubbles/foam/froth is "awa." Meaning her fruit could be the Awa-Awa Fruit. (at the very least, when I entered Bubble into a Japanese/English search "awa" was the only two-syllable word to pop up).
If this is the case, does this make Calipha One Piece's bubbly blonde girl? Or (more seriously, if a bit of a stretch) could she be being referenced to Aphrodite, Greek goddess of love (who was born in foam).
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Speaking of bounties, my predictions for future Mugiwara bounties (in belly currency and in descending order):
Luffy: 400 million (He lead the attack on EL, so naturally, he gets the highest, and most likely because of his [eventual] defeat of Lucci. Luffy = Leader of Straw Hats, 'nuff said.)
Robin: 300 million (Her knowledge about the "weapon" will bring down the government if ever revealed to the world. She must be "silenced." [Assuming the Strawhats get out of EL intact, the WG knows she's alive, the more money put on her head, the faster they might get her back)
Franky: 300 million (Same reason as Robin's, though I'm sure Spandam will put in a good word for him… -________-)
Zoro: 200 Million (For defeating T-Bone and [eventually] Kaku.)
Sanji: 100 million (Taking out nearly an entire train of marines by himself during a highly top secret ""Government" mission )
–-----------Sogeking: 90 Million (aiding Sanji's "adventure" on the train, and of course, destroying the World Government's flag. Possibly add another 10 to 20 mill on his bounty for the flag-burning)
Chopper: 80 million (His super-saiyan form is going to cause some damage. His rumble ball might be valuable research material)
Nami: at least 50 Million (the fact that she took out quite a few marines with that ClimaTact of hers)
Speaking of Calipha's DF, I'm guessing it's going to be bubble-related, too...
I'm probably wrong thoughNo offense but your numbers are just riduculous. We've been through this b4…
My numbers are not ridiculous. I'm merely taking into account what luffy and co have done. They have infuriated the World Government. This will be the Grand Line's equivalent of World War III getting started, since Dragon (whom we haven't seen in well over 300 chapters) will no doubt kick off his revolution, using this as a rallying cry.
As far as the Mugiwaras themselves go, the Mugiwara attacked THE Judicial center of the World Government, (most likely will) defeat ALL OF CP9, and rescue Nico Robin. Let's not forget that over **_10,000 marines got their ***** kicked when they outnumbered the Straw Hat/Franky Family alliance by over 20 to 1!!! That is not a small number of marines when one considers the fact that the Straw Hats and Franky Family are well under that number.
Don't even get me started on Nico Robin. You already know how much danger she poses to the very existence of the World Government. Combine this with the attack on EL, and the Straw Hats are basically considered "enemies of the state," not pirates (even though they still are pirates). The Straw Hats have done the unthinkable: invade and successfully retreat from EL.
Can you even begin to imagine how embarassing this is to the WG? It sets the stage for people to openly question their political legitimacy. They're going to have trouble trying to keep this incident under wraps, if it is at all possible to do so. You can't seriously think every member of the Straw Hats will not get significant bounties.
You're telling me that's after all the Straw Hats have done at Enies Lobby, that my predictions for their future bounties are ridiculous!?!?! Are you insane???
The World Government will want to make an example out of them after this. They will stop at nothing to do so.
Their bounties will be that or higher!_**
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First; if Califa's power is to drain strength, and Nami feels fine after a few minutes, why is Sanji "out" at all? Hell, why would he be "out" otherwise?
Having said that, though, I doubt Nami's getting any help for her fight, be it from Sanji or Franky. After all, she needs to show her own strength just as much as anybody else.
Well in Nami's case, I think it's too soon for her. Even with an upgraded weapons, her strength, speed, and maybe reflexes are far from superhuman. I don't think she's at that level yet. That's why I think Sanji should help her out, by making up for her defense.
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You're telling me that's after all the Straw Hats have done at Enies Lobby, that my predictions for their future bounties are ridiculous!?!?! Are you insane???
The World Government will want to make an example out of them after this. They will stop at nothing to do so.
Their bounties will be that or higher!
Yes, Yes your future bounties are ridiculous!
So your saying that after Water seven arc the Mugiwaras bounties will be higher than that of any Shichibukai shown (Doflamingo and Bartholomew Kuma) that is taking it too far. It would not be fun to see the Strawhat pirates fight anyone with Bounties less than the Strawhat Pirates especially pirates who are acknowledged by the government like the Shichibukai. After this Arc you are basically saying that the Strawhat Pirates will be the biggest threat to the government and the strongest pirates sailing the seas, Look out Whitebeard!!!
Thou he slay me, yet shall I trust him!!!!
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Speaking of bounties, my predictions for future Mugiwara bounties (in belly currency and in descending order):
Luffy: 400 million (He lead the attack on EL, so naturally, he gets the highest, and most likely because of his [eventual] defeat of Lucci. Leader of Straw Hats)
Robin: 300 million (Her knowledge about the "weapon" will bring down the government if ever revealed to the world. She must be "silenced." [Assuming the Strawhats get out of EL intact, the WG knows she's alive, the more money put on her head, the faster they might get her back)
Franky: 300 million (Same reason as Robin's, though I'm sure Spandam will put in a good word for him… -________-)
Zoro: 200 Million (For defeating T-Bone and [eventually] Kaku.)
Sanji: 100 million (Taking out nearly an entire train of marines by himself during a highly top secret ""Government" mission )
–-----------Sogeking: 90 Million (aiding Sanji's "adventure" on the train)
Chopper: 80 million (His super-saiyan form is going to cause some damage. His rumble ball might be valuable research material)
Nami: at least 50 Million (the fact that she took out quite a few marines with that ClimaTact of hers)
No offense but your numbers are just riduculous. We've been through this b4…
I agree with Kibagami their bountys are really high except Nami's
Chopper should only have 60 million
Sanji should have 75 million
Us-ogeking and Zoro will get 80 million
Us-ogeking will get it that high just because he burned the government flagI agree Franky will get a high bounty like Robin's cause of their knowledge of a "secret weapon" and I think they will get 100 million
and Luffy being captain will get 200 million
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I honestly don't think ANY Shicibukai was insane enough to declare war ON THE ENTIRE WORLD while standing smack dab in the Judicial Centre of the the World Government.
Tally up the damages, seriously:
10, 000 marines were unable to stop 60 'Straw Hats'.
The entire CP9, the WG's top assassination squad, will have their asses handed to them.
They will most probably have two crew members capable of reviving Pluton.
Enies Lobby has been more or less utterly trashed.
They managed to convince gate guardians OF FIFTY YEARS to join them in their rampage.Even if the 'power' rating isn't high, their 'threat' rating is through the roof.
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I honestly don't think ANY Shicibukai was insane enough to declare war ON THE ENTIRE WORLD while standing smack dab in the Judicial Centre of the the World Government.
Tally up the damages, seriously:
10, 000 marines were unable to stop 60 'Straw Hats'.
The entire CP9, the WG's top assassination squad, will have their asses handed to them.
They will most probably have two crew members capable of reviving Pluton.
Enies Lobby has been more or less utterly trashed.
They managed to convince gate guardians OF FIFTY YEARS to join them in their rampage.Even if the 'power' rating isn't high, their 'threat' rating is through the roof.
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I don't think that their bounties will be quite that high, I do think that after this the WG is going to be seriously pissed, They will tell the Blackbeard crew "Alright your captain wants to be a Shichibukai go prove yourself" they will get beaten then the next big bad guys will be the Shichibukai themselves. But right after W7 I think the bounties will be
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Luffy- 250 million
Robin-150 million
Franky-150 million
Zoro-125 million
Sanji-125 million
Sogeking-75 million
Chopzilla-50 million
Nami-30 millionI don't think the WG will make a connection between Dr Chopper and Mr Chopzilla, also I think either sogeking will be on the poster or it will be Ussop with his mask up, and Luffy and Chopper will be like "WTF, Ussop was there!?" if they don't find out its him before the end.
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I honestly don't think ANY Shicibukai was insane enough to declare war ON THE ENTIRE WORLD while standing smack dab in the Judicial Centre of the the World Government.
Tally up the damages, seriously:
10, 000 marines were unable to stop 60 'Straw Hats'.
The entire CP9, the WG's top assassination squad, will have their asses handed to them.
They will most probably have two crew members capable of reviving Pluton.
Enies Lobby has been more or less utterly trashed.
They managed to convince gate guardians OF FIFTY YEARS to join them in their rampage.Even if the 'power' rating isn't high, their 'threat' rating is through the roof.
This is a Bold statement! Not only were these pirates feared by the governemnt, which are now Shichibukai, They are one of the "Three Powers of the Entire World" Your telling me that some Secret organization is more important than the Muscle of the Government? I do not think so.:huh:
Thou he slay me, yet shall I trust him!!!!
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Shicibukai->Blackbeard->Whitebeard->Shicibukai->Shanks
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I also think it will be sogeking who will be on the bounty list instead of ussop..
It's more dramatic to see sogeking reveal his true identity in front of his father when they both confront.. then his father will be both surprised and proud of his son..
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I think whitebeard will be after shanks, probably be right before the old men that lead the WG.
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When I said "We've been through this b4" I mean there is a 14-page thread on the future bounties on the StrawHats.
http://apforums.net/showthread.php?t=4449
Their bounties will jump, but not the degree of having Bounties above that of the Shichibukai. Obviously what they've done is huge, but it's not like the government will let the world know what happened in W7 and EL. There'll be a cover up and the Mugiwara will be charged with rampaging W7.
Luffy will get a huge bounty as the captain. [ I'd say at least 250mil]
Robin hasn't really done shit you know….As far as her knowledge goes, her threat hasn't really changed from when she was 8. However, now that the Gov knows about Franky, they'll be pursuing him with a pretty decent bounty [above 80mil]. AND IF Franky joins the crew, then gov would piss their pants because the crew now possesses the KEY to reviving the ancient weapon. I think think this is an even bigger reason for the Gov to impose bigger bounties. So:
Luffy = >250mil for declaring war on the WG
Zoro = at least 100mil for being recognized by Baskerville as uber strong.
Sanji = at least 80mil for his antics on the train and all other ass kicking.
Franky = >80mil for being a key to the ancient weapon and all other ass kicking.
Robin = ~100 or being grouped with Mugiwara and Franky
Chopper = >50
SogeKing/Usopp = ~50
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Luffy = >250mil for declaring war on the WG
Zoro = at least 100mil for being recognized by Baskerville as uber strong.
Sanji = at least 80mil for his antics on the train and all other ass kicking.
Franky = >80mil for being a key to the ancient weapon and all other ass kicking.
Robin = ~100 or being grouped with Mugiwara and Franky
Chopper = >50
SogeKing/Usopp = ~50
Nami = ~50Wow!! Expensive aren't we!
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Hey it IS a japanese manga afterall. Japanese people know how to charge.
EDIT: On a side note I've always had a theory that "Greater Pirates" like Shanks and Whitebear's crews are in a categoriy of their own in terms of issuing bounties. I say this because of something Rockstar said about his bounty. It could be a translation misunderstanding he said something like "Back when I was a pirate, I was pretty famous." It almost sounds like he gave up piracy to be part of Shanks crew. I'm quite positive Shank's crew is in a frickin class of its own (same with Whitebeard), and these guys are definitely still pirates. So I wonder if certain crews are deemed too powerful for bounties.
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True dat!!!
Thou he slay me, yet shall I trust him!!!!
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Wow, the cover story has really went at an odd angle during the last few chapters.
Wendigo Chopper? Badass. The eyes are really what sell the concept that that's not Chopper anymore.
Kureha's comments suggest that this lasts beyond the three minutes; unless those three minutes were enough for him to destroy an entire village, which should include travel time.
If it lasts more than three minutes… then what? A temporary truce to knock Chopper unconscious for the greater good (if the Justice Tower forms a bridge back across the waterfall before he reverts to normal, then the Franky Family could be danger) or he is accidentally knocked out?
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It doesn't really matter if Sanji gets another fight, it doesn't matter if any of the Strawhats see Chopper like this, and it doesn't even matter who brings the key to free Robin. Why? Because Oda-sensei will write it in such a way that 10% or less of the fans will grumble and the other 90+% will continue to worship him. Can we all stop complaining about what should happen next and just be grateful we got a chapter at all?
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'bout Sanji… Remember Luffy got wasted by Ao Kiji and Zoro humiliated by Mihawk? I feel something similar will happen to Sanji pretty soon. A very strong guy who will be Sanji's ultimate opponent in the end will make an appearance. What if that opponent is Aka Inu? He was briefly introduced in Robin's flashback and we know a boat is coming to get Robin and Spandam. What if he's onboard? It's important enough to send an admiral. Luffy being busy with Lucci, s.o else will have to free Robin (who will probably take out Spandam herself, like Nami did with Nezumi). It has to be Sanji (the whole prince saving the princess thing).
It's because Jyabura wears martial artist clothing style that his current match up is weird. A sniper (long-range) vs a martial artist (close-range) doesn't make sense. I hope Oda won't change that match-up now that he started it, as Sogeking really needs this now, but Sanji needs a big fight somehow. He hasn't had an important 1v1 since Mr.2. Even if it means another defeat against a too powerful guy (whether from Marine, WG, 3rd group, bounty hunter or some pirate).
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I agree with everything Roman Zaenom says, but Sanji is the James Bond of OP.
He's got this quality that no other SH has (except maybe Nami). That entire train hijacking thing would not have been possible without Sanji.
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Why does many people want Sanji to fight Jabura instead? Can't we let Usopp have his moment to shine? He hasn't been in a real big battle since Alabasta (not counting battle with Luffy), and this is a good chance. Just because he's considered the weakest SH doesn't mean he cannot defeat one of top 3 strongest CP9.
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Holy fucking shit!!! Exactly what everyone has been waiting to see with Chopper! Thank you Oda!
I wonder if Calipha even knows the name of her own powers yet?
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It's more about Sanji getting a fight than about Sogeking losing his. Sanji fans (including myself) are worried that Sanji won't get a chance to shine in these battles, and Jabura just seems perfect for Sanji, since he has the same rivalry with Kaku as Sanji does with Zoro.
Just take a look at what a lot of people are saying already, about Sanji now being the weakest Strawhat and getting the lowest bounty (btw, you guys keep exaggerating your numbers, I doubt any bounty will surpass the 200 millions). People have been doubting Sanji's strength for a while now.
That said, I would still prefer to see Usopp beating Jabs, I'm really interested as to what Kabuto can do. A tag team with Zoro would be great, too.
And please stop doubting that Nami will be mopping the floor with Calipha in a few chapters. If Usopp can have his battles, so can Nami. Like I said before, she's an rpg mage, physically weak but with one of the highest damage potentials, rivalling a Logia. I hope we'll see her use more defensive spells like Mirage Tempo next chapter, she seems to have her strategy planned out already; we're in for more sneaky tactics, like the Thunderbolt Tempo trap.
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Heya, long time lurker, first time poster. Sry for that.
I don't have all the chapters right now so I could look up, but as far as I can remember, we didn't see much of the fight between Sanji and Calipha. Is there the possibility that Calipha just decided to take her clothes of and take a bath and that knocked out Sanji? I think that would fit
Other than that, I'm sure Sanji will recover and help out somewhere else pretty soon.
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Welcome! ^_^
Erm, you should check chapter 403, we had a pretty good fight between Sanji and Calipha and when Nami entered, Cali-chan was still fully dressed. It wouldn't explain Sanji's strange ailment, either.
While we're at it, sanji is still in that room, isn't he? Has he missed the whole bubble bath by being unconscious? Otherwise this must have more than made up for his beating…
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Why do so many people want Sanji to fight somebody ultra strong in this arc. It wont be the end of the world if he dosen't battle the one strongest of the CP9. There will be other arcs where he can show how strong he is. Besides he already had a team up with Zoro in the Foxy arc.
Know i just want Usopp to shine and kick Jyaburas ass. -
Erm, the point is that a lot of people are indeed making it look like the end of the world for Sanji. You could argue that Zoro doesn't need a fight either, since we already know he's über strong…
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Sanji's bounty envy has been a running gag throughout the series.
I think, plotwise, it makes perfect sense that he's going to get among the lowest bounties (certainly lower than Zoro's).
And of course, the ultimate insult would be Sogeking getter a higher bounty than him. ^_^
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Hi there, first time poster with some thoughts.
I noticed that Namis Strength returned exactly the same time Kalifa left the bath.
Sie became stronger the "dryer" kalifa became….
What if ... Kalifa has the ability to exchange negative effects
to her body with someone else?
As example the water paralysis for DF Users?just an idea (Dont bash me if the idea is silly :biggrin: )
