i was questioning myself why doesn't adc heaven have a fspecial sub-orum in here like gerusama or k-f.I know it's not as good as those two bu it's really fast and i think that's the most important especially for those who read the manga and who are waiting for thr anime not for the story or the names or something else but only to make life to the manga pictures.Not to mention that having a special sub -forum may facilitate knowing the dates of episodes releases and avoid us to search every time in this thread.
That's just an idea so what do you think?
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they suck..if there was a sub forum it would only be about how they suck..
and don't give me that.."o I'd like to see you do better"
I know I can't do it, that's why I don't..and so should they.
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…They're actually quite good.
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I'm too lazy to rewrite them, so i copy the news out of the ADC-ELITES homepage:
"We uploaded all 256 One Piece episodes on one of our servers.
There are 2 servers available, one 10 mbit server with http downloads, and one 100 mbit with ftp downloads.
All episodes of Kaizoku, Gerusama, Balf, and some of our releases are up.
We also uploaded the bad quality Hong Kong subs, but we will try to replace them all with the new releases.
You can find the files at our forum!"Sounds good.
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@Bad-Beat:
they suck..if there was a sub forum it would only be about how they suck..
and don't give me that.."o I'd like to see you do better"
I know I can't do it, that's why I don't..and so should they.
you know what they say right? if you haven't got anything constructive to say, don't say it at all.
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have they gotten any better since 249 or do they still call kaku kuku >>
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They're actually quite good now. >_>
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257 is out. Give them a chance, they're not that bad….plus they have direct links.
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I found them are not bad at all the translation is ok and the grammar and spelling dont have mistake. if you want to collect u can wait for KF but wanna see the eps right away this is the choice.
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They're actually quite good now. >_>
hell yeah they are. I downloaded 249 once and hated it but after downloading 257 it was amazing. Man awesomeness.
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@Bad-Beat:
they suck..if there was a sub forum it would only be about how they suck..
and don't give me that.."o I'd like to see you do better"
I know I can't do it, that's why I don't..and so should they.
Dude, chill…please.
Would you rather they stop?
Anywho...I'd have to agree, the quality of they're subs have improved dramatically. Plus it helped that Sogeking's entrance was the shit!
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yeah, I'll admit that I went OTT with that post..I can't remember why…but I'd still have K-F over them anyday..
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As has been said, just give them a chance and it's your choice to watch their eps or not.
And when you see the increase in quality over the last episodes they subbed, it's just crazy O_o This ep 257 is really great as i see it. Their translation gets better and better and yet they do it in such a short time you can only congratulate them !
Furthermore, i quite prefer their white font over Gerusama's yellow one… Anybody else to comment on that ?
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I will.. I also prefer it to Gerusama's yellow one… and they have nifty effects for the attacks now... KF is still the best though. I think ADC said they were going to dub Skypia at one point... I don't really see the point. They should either join with KF or Geru instead of competing with them.
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The best thing about them is their speed. Usually comes out within 1-2 days of the raw.
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For those that watch Naruto subs I liken ADCH to DB. They're out in a day(or 2) and they are 100% competant now. Nothing really fancy, but everything is correct and understandable.
If you want to wait for a slower group before you burn to disc, that's fine, but there's no reason to wait weeks for Gerusama to watch if you've already skipped ahead of KF.
In fact, after I finish my current disc off with Geru subs my next disc will probably be all ADCH.
It was a really awsome episode too. Really geeked out at Sogeking. His voice, his theme song. Plus the combo attack. Fantastic.
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Me too i don't really see the point for Skypea but if they want to do it why not ^_^ If they manage to do it pretty fast that'd be great (just saw the HK versions… so funny !! lol)
About fusing with K-F or Gerusama, it's up to them, but a little bit of competition only brings high quality products, so let's see what happends next... :happy:
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I wouldn't want them to merge with anyone that wouldn't make them a speedsub anymore. I like being able to see one episode before the next one airs.
If they merged with K-F, then they'd be working on those episodes. I don't need that.
If they merged with Gerusama, I would only want them to do that if it allowed Geru to speed up to being able to do an episode in less than a week without any hit to their quality.
But if merging with either one meant I wouldn't get a OP speed sub anymore, I'd rather they stayed seperate.
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Just watched 256.. they're actually pretty good yes.. only one spelling mistake ("undertand") and all seemed fine. Downloading 257 now.. good stuff!
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Wow, I just watched episode 257 and I must say that they have improved once again, and yet they managed to speed sub! Keep up the good work ADC!
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Just watched 257 too.. quite impressive I must say! They even have special animated subs for the attacks, all that from a speedsub, cool.
Oh yeah and Sogeking rocked!
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I think it takes a lot of balls that they call themselves the "#1 fansubbing group for One Piece".
Other than that, I'll stick to Geru and K-F.
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Hmm I saw their sub of Ep. 257 & although they did an OK job they mistranslated or forgot some words like when Sanji was using the Den Den Mushi they should've written 'Oh, & is marimo-head worried about me?'. That totally sucked IMO.
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Sonique: It's on their homepage, top left corner.
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I think it takes a lot of balls that they call themselves the "#1 fansubbing group for One Piece".
Other than that, I'll stick to Geru and K-F.
Yea, I'm confused as to why it says that on the site. Although we're at a much higher quality than when the group originally started (I joined at 254, doing the karaoke and typeset, which the encoder messed up when encoding), I would still go for K-F quality files anyday. I think we're gradually getting closer to the standard of Gerusama, although I know that they are still superior.
And about the Marimo thing, I changed the script so it said "Oh, is marimo-kun worried about me?'. Seems that they encoded the file with the original script though. Didn't notice until now. -_-
Anyway, I'm glad to hear that some people are beginning to change their views on the group. It's much appreciated. ^^
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Saying "the #1 One Piece fansubbing group" doesn't exactly raise my opinion of them, that's really presumptuous for a group that's only been around a few months.
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Oh there it is, I see that. Yeah I definatly don't like that they say that. The fastest group for sure, but not the best by far. With time maybe they could be .. MAYBE… , you never know. But they'd have to sub a hell of a lot more.
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It's also cool that they left off "the" from that phrase. :x
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I don't see why you need to be too harsh on them. They are doing their job. Whatever the frontpage says probably was the whim of the webmaster or someone else and the rest of the group don't hold that view. What "I" can attribute them well for:
1. Fast subbing. Only a few days after airing of the actual episode.
2. Decent subbing. There will be translation errors but they are speed subbers so give them some slack. They even did karaoke for the sogeking song and it looked well made and definitely not too shabby. Remember BAKA who did the naruto speedsubs? Those were pretty bad at times, especially the font.
3. I don't like gerusama's font at all. Some of their sentences also sound funny so I wouldn't consider them "superior" to ADC, just maybe a tad ahead in terms of this aspect. Font's do matter a whole lot for me at least.
4. Direct downloads, that work! Downloaded 258 when it came out at about 500KBps. -
currently i concider geru and adc on the same level… adc is just ahead of them episode wise
and Wantz totally rules BTW.. im gonna go get some ramen >.>
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i have a question all the episodes of adc i watched have a green line at the bodom of the black bars. is it my pc or the episodeS?
Edit: 258 is released
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"Men's dream will never die"_
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258 is out.Another chance for them to prove that they are worth being called a good fansub
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They did a pretty good job with 258 imho. Karaoke for Sogeking's song, all the attacks have animated subs.. direct downloads. (which didn't work so I actually grabbed the ep off of irc.. and KF's newest release through DD.. ironically) And the subbing seems pretty good.. ofcourse I don't know what they're really saying, but it all seems to add up. Imho we have a winner here.
Btw about the ep:
- Sogeking's song and afterwards seeing it from the "real" perspective was cool!
- Sogeking going all "don't you guys have questions since this is the first time we met" and Sanji and Franky just ignoring it was hilarious.
- Nami changing and Paulie going ballistic about it, haha
- Contrary to what I thought of him in the manga (super annoying), Wanze (or Wanten as they translated it) was actually cool and funny in the anime!
- Also, generally, the art/animation was very good.. as compared to the crap they let loose on 254 etc. From the preview, seems to be good in the next ep too.. which is going to have Franky vs forgot-his-name (the mihawk lookalike) and Sanji vs Wanze/Wanten.. should be good!
i have a question all the episodes of adc i watched have a green line at the bodom of the black bars. is it my pc or the episodeS?
I have no such problems..
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we've always had direct downloads… we just don't advertise them on our site because there are just too many people. i don't see what's ironic about it at all.
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I don't care what they write on their website. They could write, "K-F sucks monkey nuts" and I could care less. I'm just not that anal.
All I need to know is two things.
- Is the translation good enough so that I understand what's going on?
- When is the next episode coming out?
Since I don't freak if there is a grammatical error or if something is misspelled they are doing good enough for me on the translation and their overall quality has improved in receent weeks. As for speed they are super fast on releases especially when compared to the other two groups. Add in the ease of DD on the front page and we have a winner.
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As for speed they are super fast on releases especially when compared to the other two groups.
Bet me.
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But still K-F releases have better picture and subs, so it doesn't mather how long it takes.
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Bet me.
lol @ letting your pride get in the way. but it'd be interesting, to see who is the fastest. if you could contact ADC and Geru and have a speed-subbing/quality race for next week. see who gets there's out the fastest and with the best quality. Especially since rumour is that K-F aren't no where near as good without the help of DVD quality RAWS.
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Get in the way of what exactly? I'm not going to let anyone lie about K-F. Period. You gonna say they're faster than us too?
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my view is this. K-F are on a high at the moment, an episode only seems to be half a week away at the moment, however there's been periods of major slow activity in the past.
if K-F were to sub a Saiyaman RAW do i think they could get it out quicker than ADC? i'm not so sure? ADC have gotten very good at getting out subs very quickly.
However i archive K-F's and Geru's i don't archive ADC.
The only wya to prove it is to go head to head on a RAW and prove it IMO, but the question is, does it matter with you guys being like 100 eps behind?
As for getting in the way, IMO getting in the way of a good community, the more groups subbing OP the better IMO.
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Aye, the slow times are no fun for us either
We've always been faster, we produce more episodes per year than ADC can even hope to.
The idea that more groups is better is absolutely absurd to me. The way I see it, competition makes people rush. For you, who totes ADC as a quality group, I do not think that is in your best interest.
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Course i care about the qualit and i think ADC have made major strides forward, even as the opposition you can state that and you're right, you'll produce more eps than they will in a year. But isn't that largely down to the fact that you're behind and thus have a great reservoir of available eps. they have an average two day turn around for eps and while yours are visibly better, i have to exclaim, what do you expect at 150% file size and with DVD raws. my question to you is, do you think you could get out a web RAW in two days with the same quality as we're used to from K-F?
This kinda reminds me of back when Dattebayo were Anime-Heaven and were coming into Naruto, everyone put them down as they couldn't compete with TW or AonE/Anbu but as months went on they improved vastly and now they're up there with the other groups and still getting them out with a special amount of speed.
Are ADC a quality speed-subbing group? Yes. Are they a quality subbing group? They're not bad that's for sure. In terms of quality comparing K-F to ADC is impossible until we see how K-F do with a Saiyaman RAW. Are they better than Gerusama? No they're not. could they surpass him by the end of the year? I think they can.
But at the end of the day, if you ask any OP fan who they archive, they'll all say K-F without a doubt.
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Well, you're getting into stuff I didn't really want to include… >_>
I agree they're a lot better than before, and I don't want to get into details of whether they are actually "good", that's a personal issue.Isn't DB the only Naruto speed-subber now? As an honestly curious question, how does that fit in with your theory that more subbers is better? Should there be more Naruto subbers?
My one, and only, point is that he called K-F slow, and said that ADC is "super fast" compared to us. That is NOT true. They are at a higher number, and that is all. Our release rate, over 3 years or so, has always been higher.
Their episode release rate, not including movies/specials is: 365/42 = 8.69 days per release (on average). Ours can be found here: http://giggedygiggedygoo.com/kajzokku/Stuff/Kaizoku-Fansubs_Releases.xls -
The DB Naruto thing was meant as an example of speedsubs doesn't always meant doom and gloom, but the fact they're the only Naruto speed subbers is down to the fact that Naruto sucks now rather than them being that good. That said, they're the best Bleach speed subbers atm.
But that said cool spreadsheet 6.92 isn't bad at all, though the method of working out averages heavily favours you.
That said, to say K-F are slow, isn't right given that you're definately not, at the moment anyway, though i must say i do remember them days of waiting 2/3 weeks for a single release. thank goodness those days are behind us.
The key to this whole argument (the K-F versus ADC one) is to get them to clarify "slow".
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For one I never called K-F slow.
I did say they are superfast comparitively but I wasn't meaning that as a knock towards K-F like you took it. My whole point was that they have a quick turn around from an episode airing to getting it out for release. They have improved in quality and I see no reason why we should bash them or wish there was only one sub group. For a fan of the show I would think we should say, the more the better. I can watch newer episodes now because I'm too impatient as are most of us to wait to see it a year later when K-F gets to it's release. When K-F catches up to Gerusama than I'll replace all their files with yours.
Just so you know because I have great respect for you guys with K-F that you do a great job and your easily the best fan subbing group I've ever seen. Your also right. K-F is very fast and I had only forgot that due to long waits between episodes throughout most of the fall but I understand that sometimes other things are more important than fan-subbing and that moves to the back burner at times.
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Ack >__< there was no group quality bashing here! Although I do heavily disagree with what sabertooth said about more groups being better.
All I want is for the facts regarding K-F to be straight, and people are free to decide for themselves what their opinion is.Edit: more groups automatically being better.
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automatically? definately not. but improvement in numbers? yes.
you only need to look at K-F for that, an example being the amount of people that asked for the next episode preview and K-F have said "no, it's a spoiler" while is there was another group subbing from DVD's at the same rate, the people would be more likely to get what they want.
In regards to quality, if you have 3 groups subbing the same episodes you get people going for the translations they prefer and of course quality. it's If a group kept translating let's say Usopp as Usoppo and the people didn't like it, they'd move away until it was fixed. It's about having consequences of not providing the best job you can. If there's only one group, then no one has an option but to put up or shut up.
PS. i have to agree that there was no group bashing here. to even suggest there was/is is ludicrous, it's a mere discussion, that means posting positives and negatives, which ever side of the debate you take.
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There has been some bashing type comments in this thread. All you gotta do is look no further than the guy you quoted on the last page, "Bad-Beat".
