I've been wondering what the Straw Hats douriki levels would be, and I'd like to see some opinions on it. Obviously Luffy and Zoro would be at the top, follwed by Franky and Sanji, and then Chopper, Nami, Robin, and Sogeking.
Other Characters Douriki
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Its hard to judge Doriki for someone like Robin because she works in different ways. But if Doriki is just straight power than it is easier to understand. This is a hard subject to evaluate, but I've always thought that Arlong was at least the same doriki as Kaku and Jyabura. Its just that Arlong was just raw power, while Kaku/Jyabura took their power and gave it moves through breathing techniques and disiplined training to take their power they were gaining to maximum effecienty. I think the roushiki makes the CP9 alot stronger than they seem, like as Luffy(no gears) has a higher Doriki than Blueno but Tekkai makes Blueno seem alot stronger. Same goes for Soru, using the doriki of your muscles and applying technique to it to appear to be way stronger and faster. Any ways without no evidence to back me on this, the crews Doriki.
Luffy (no gears)= 2400, extra depending on how mad he gets
Zoro= 2400
Sanji= 1800, pretty much in his legs
Franky= 500-2000, depending on amount of Cola
Chopper= 800
Nami, Robin, Usopp= 100, they use other methods of course.
Gear 2 Luffy= 4500I know you guys wil disagree with me, but I think I'm right on how the CP9 apply techniques to their doriki, to appear alot stronger or faster.
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Robin will probably be worth more than 100 douriki.. she could grow as many part of her body she wants i guess.. that could immediately destroy a battalion of soldiers.. so i'll give her 1000
well.. nami's climatact could destroy quite a number of soldier too.. but her own power would be no more than 50 douriki i guess.. so with climatact i'll say around 350
normal ussop: i'll say around 50-70
ussop with dial: 600
sogeking (dial includes): 1200 its still a mystery.. we'll see…those are my 2 cents...
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Well you got to remember it not taking special abilitys into account. So Robin would be pretty low since she's not really that strong by her self.
Ussop is kind of a wild card. He not all that strong, but he actually pretty tough. I mean he's taken a 4 ton bat to the head and stood up.
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actually, if you're basing douriki on just pure raw power, then using the rokushiki is not making you seem stronger than you are, you're literally becoming stronger. By raising the speed and acceleration of your limbs or body, you're increasing force, increased force = increased power. So thus, high douriki.
In terms of how much one could lift though, that's where the difference comes in, where speeding up your movement would not help.
just thought I'd toss that in.
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Usopp's Douriki is somewhere around five, perhaps even six. Nami and Robin are probably around two and three. Chopper's would be between one and twenty depanding on which mode his on. Sanji's could be well over hundred given he has experience in martiar arts. Franky… hard one. I say hundred too -- with cola bottles, I give another hundred or two. Zoro's the only one who does physical training so... from seven hundred to thousand. Luffy gets thousand too but he seems adapt in Rokushiki, so let's double it. Two thousand, that is.
I'm glad Oda hasn't mentioned Douriki since that chapter though.
By the way, I'm really digging your avatar, wz. Probs for who ever made the little up lift for the front page too (the tiny WG symbols), I do know it was Ivotas's idea…
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If douriki is just physical power (not ability or skill, but PURE brute strength)
1. Luffy with no Gears (3000)
2. Franky with full cola (2500)
3. Sanji (950)
4. Zoro (600)
5. Chopper in Heavy Point (100)
6. Chopper in Walk Point (40)
7. Ussop (10)
8. Robin (6)
9. Nami (3)
10. Chopper in Brain Point (1)I didn't rate Luffy with Gears because Blueno (clearly below Luffy in Gear 2) isn't a very good measuring stick. And before you jump on me for placing Zoro so low, remember that while he is inhumanly strong (he lifted a house and threw it at Mr. 1), he's a swordsman, not some huge bruiser. He would immediatley lose to Luffy in a fist fight. Sanji's douriki is well over 640 (Califa's) because he clealy outclassed her in combat and was almost able to penetrate Blueno's tekkai (Blueno's is 840). Franky's is higher than Sanki's as we could see that even without cola he easily broke an 800 douriki Fukouru's tekkai (Sanji barely managed to almost break an 820 douriki Blueno's tekkai). Cola-less Franky is nothing short of 800 douriki. With cola, Franky completely bowled Fukouro (tekkai and all) over and sent him flying. Chopper in Heavy Point is kind of strong but NOTHING compared to say, Sanji, as he hurt his hand punching Kumadori in tekkai (whereas Sanji almost had Blueno, who's 20 douriki over Kumadori). He's a normal reindeer in Walk Point (sort of tough when charging) and (obviously) weak as hell in Brain Point. Ussop, Robin and Nami are normal people as far as physical strength.
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I think Robin should be a little stronger than or a tie with Ussop. She endured getting punched through a wall without cirtical injury, and got up faster than Sanji and Ussop after electrocution (though maybe she recieved less voltage).
She's no fighter, but she can take a little more damage then the average person.
Plus how stong would Chopper's other points be? Arm point and Horn point must be over 1000 or maybe even 2000. Jump point–and this is only a guess--is probably very strong in the legs, though no Sanji. Like, "over 10."
Also, wasn't it said somewhere that douriki only applies to CP9?
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well.. they said douriki is a measure of strength… and even mentioned 10 douriki is equal to an average marine.. so i guess.. its for everyone..
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Luffy-3500
Zoro-2000
Sanji-1600
Franky-1300
Chopper-1000
Robin-800
Nami-700
Sogeking-600 -
Gear 3rd Luffy: 4000
Gear 2nd Luffy: 2000-ish
Normal Luffy: 1400
Franky (full power): 1000
Zoro:1000
Sanji: 800-900
Franky (no power): 700
Chopper(arm point):700
Chopper (heavy point): 300
Usopp: 10-11
Robin: 10
Nami: 8To Geese: One Piece Blue (or was it Red?) said that Zoro was stronger than Sanji
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Gear 3rd Luffy: 4000
Gear 2nd Luffy: 2000-ish
Normal Luffy: 1400
Franky (full power): 1000
Zoro:1000
Sanji: 800-900
Franky (no power): 700
Chopper(arm point):700
Chopper (heavy point): 300
Usopp: 10-11
Robin: 10
Nami: 8To Geese: One Piece Blue (or was it Red?) said that Zoro was stronger than Sanji
That was more in terms of fighting ability (where I'd have to agree). You can liken it to how Arlong would rip Robin's arm off in an arm-wrestle yet we all know she's stronger than him. I find it easier seeing Sanji kicking through Blueno's tekkai than swordless Zoro punching through it or something.
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Gear 3rd Luffy: 4000
Gear 2nd Luffy: 2000-ish
Normal Luffy: 1400
Franky (full power): 1000
Zoro:1000
Sanji: 800-900
Franky (no power): 700
Chopper(arm point):700
Chopper (heavy point): 300
Usopp: 10-11
Robin: 10
Nami: 8To Geese: One Piece Blue (or was it Red?) said that Zoro was stronger than Sanji
I agree with that list, except for Nami and Robin. In terms of only strength, Nami is 0. Nami is not a fighter, as everyone knows. She isn't going to overpower anyone without her climatact.
Robin's strength is about 100, times the number of hands she uses, like in that fight with the enforcer in Skypaeia that Robin barely defeated.
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We got to give more points to nami. We seen here beat marines and pirates with a normal staff.
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@Master:
I agree with that list, except for Nami and Robin. In terms of only strength, Nami is 0. Nami is not a fighter, as everyone knows. She isn't going to overpower anyone without her climatact.
Robin's strength is about 100, times the number of hands she uses, like in that fight with the enforcer in Skypaeia that Robin barely defeated.
Barely? She one-sided owned him after after they left the ruins. Also, if douriki is only physical strength, then here douriki with her devil fruit isn't counted. Think if every One Piece fighter tried to hand-to-hand fight, that's douriki.
And against my better judgement, I'm in a power level discussion.
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In manga, it said that Luffy, Zoro, and Sanji has haki.{and this is after 2 year time skip}
Luffy (Original)-7000
Luffy (Gear 2)- 10000
Luffy (Gear 3)-15000
Zoro -6700 (Luffy is slightly stronger than Zoro and Sanji)
Sanji- 6600 (Sanji gets into very even fights with Zoro all the time)
Franky- 4700
Chopper (normal 3 forms) -500
Chopper (Rumble) -4000
Usopp(Normal) -25
Usopp(Weapons) -4000
Robin -4000 [If you think carefully, you can see that Brook, Nami, and Robin are the new "Weak Trio"]
Brook -3300
Nami(with weapon)-3300
And not to mention Nami (Anger Mode)-1000000 -
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Hmm, it's pretty hard to tell what their Dorikis are but I am pretty sure that the monster trios' are very high.
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brook is not part of the weak trio. And the starwhats in strength are all over 10 at least. Remember 10 is the average marine soldier. Average fucking soldier. I'm sure any of the straw hats even w/o weapons could beat one
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Isn't leaving dead threads dead… _common knowledge_?
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If douriki is just physical power (not ability or skill, but PURE brute strength)
1. Luffy with no Gears (3000)
2. Franky with full cola (2500)
3. Sanji (950)
4. Zoro (600)
5. Chopper in Heavy Point (100)
6. Chopper in Walk Point (40)
7. Ussop (10)
8. Robin (6)
9. Nami (3)
10. Chopper in Brain Point (1)I didn't rate Luffy with Gears because Blueno (clearly below Luffy in Gear 2) isn't a very good measuring stick. And before you jump on me for placing Zoro so low, remember that while he is inhumanly strong (he lifted a house and threw it at Mr. 1), he's a swordsman, not some huge bruiser. He would immediatley lose to Luffy in a fist fight. Sanji's douriki is well over 640 (Califa's) because he clealy outclassed her in combat and was almost able to penetrate Blueno's tekkai (Blueno's is 840). Franky's is higher than Sanki's as we could see that even without cola he easily broke an 800 douriki Fukouru's tekkai (Sanji barely managed to almost break an 820 douriki Blueno's tekkai). Cola-less Franky is nothing short of 800 douriki. With cola, Franky completely bowled Fukouro (tekkai and all) over and sent him flying. Chopper in Heavy Point is kind of strong but NOTHING compared to say, Sanji, as he hurt his hand punching Kumadori in tekkai (whereas Sanji almost had Blueno, who's 20 douriki over Kumadori). He's a normal reindeer in Walk Point (sort of tough when charging) and (obviously) weak as hell in Brain Point. Ussop, Robin and Nami are normal people as far as physical strength.
I disagree completely. Zoro is a heck of a lot stronger. I'd put him just below luffy even without his swords. With them he's above luffy. He beat luffy in a fight once when he was being controlled by the sea horse.
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Wasn't this done officially in SBS or something? Coulda sworn I remember Robin having less douriki than Nami.
