I wonder why people hate Vivi Naferiti? I find nothing wrong with her character, sure she's whiny at times but why do people hate her?
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Well, some people do. Some people like her. Just like it is with every darn character.
Personally, I don't understand how anyone can hate Franky. BUt it's all a matter of opinions and taste, really. I don't think much is wrong with Vivi myself, really…
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Nope, nothing wrong with her. She's not the most charismatic character in the One Piece world, that's for sure, but to go as far as "hating" her… I find the fact people "hate" and waste time bashing fictional characters on internet message boards to be one of the most pathetic things ever anyway.
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i've never seen anybody who really hates her.
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Personally I dislike her as a character, maybe because she was the reason some things dragged on but i've never really hated her, just disliked her.
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I don't really understand why either, I guess to have someone to dislike? Some people like it. I don't have a problem with her, but I've seen people who do. Same thing as people hating Nami, some of them just spit fire over her, which I don't get either. To each their own, I guess.
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I didn't hate her. But, she was alot funnier and entertaining as Ms. Wednesday.
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I don't hate her either but I have to agree with Senshi Mizaka that she was more entertaining as Mrs. Wednesday especially in combination with the weirdo partner (was it Mr. 9?).
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Personally, I didn't like her at all, she just really got on my nerves really.
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I thought she was pretty hot, that's why I didn't have a problem with her.
Her weepy moods and stuff did kinda get on my nerves though. That was it.
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I didn't have any problem with Vivi. I didn't disliker her, but I wasn't really crazy about her either. But her passion for her country was moving, and that scene where she's screaming at everyone to stop gets me every time. I don't think she was "whiney". She's 16 for goodness sake, and look where she is and what's going on.
Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible. - Frank Zappa
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Personally, I don't understand how anyone can hate Franky.
Well it could possibly be any of the reasons listed below
1.His guys beat the udder crap out of Usopp.
2.He stole the strawhats money.
3.He wears speedos.Personally I don't understand how anybody can hate Luffy, Sanji, & Zoro
I mean sure they have their flaws one is stupid, the other is obsessed with
Women, & is navagationally challenged but that isn't much of a reason to hate them.
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I thought she was pretty hot, that's why I didn't have a problem with her.
Her weepy moods and stuff did kinda get on my nerves though. That was it.
Wosh, exactly like I think, exactly. :D
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@Sandai:
Personally I don't understand how anybody can hate Luffy, Sanji, & Zoro I mean sure they have their flaws
Without those "flaws" I probably wouldn't like them. Still, I guess I'll never really love Zoro though. Vivi was… plain. I didn't dislike her, she had her moments, but she didn't have much to like about either. Kind of, well, she would had made a good use of a "flaw". Karue rocked.
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I think Vivi can just be a bit of a bland character at times (not when she's defending her city, however) and she just didnt seem to fit in with the mostly wacky and random Straw Hats.
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I liked the "I'm surrounded by maniacs" vibe Vivi gave us for a while there.
There are people who may not have liked her cuz she did little to no fighting at all (similar people who dislike Usopp cuz he isn't as "Awesome" as Luffy or Zoro)
Besides, I have a nagging suspicion that she will use her political power to help out the Strawhats when they need it the most. That would be incredible!
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Definately! I'd be surprised if Oda didn't let Vivi return in one way or another, she already appeared in one of the mini-stories (I forget which one)
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I didn't have any problem with Vivi. I didn't disliker her, but I wasn't really crazy about her either. But her passion for her country was moving, and that scene where she's screaming at everyone to stop gets me every time. I don't think she was "whiney". She's 16 for goodness sake, and look where she is and what's going on.
That's basically how I felt as well.
But I disliked Nico Robin alot more than vivi until the most recent arc.
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I didn't have any problem with Vivi. I didn't disliker her, but I wasn't really crazy about her either. But her passion for her country was moving, and that scene where she's screaming at everyone to stop gets me every time. I don't think she was "whiney". She's 16 for goodness sake, and look where she is and what's going on.
Pretty much my take on it. Pluss all of the "Oh, I forgot to mention…" life-or-death stuff, along with the fact that the people she was with were monster-like in strength compred to her, was pretty funny.
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pretty much what Cosmic said ^^ not my favorite, but I don't hate her at all.
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I don't no what it is that I didn't like about Vivi, maybe the fact she was always complaining about the state of alabasta, or maybe that she just didn't fit in with the whole vibe of the straw hats.
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Wow… I didn't know Vivi was disliked this much.
I liked Vivi. And I was very sad when she left the crew in the end of the Alabasta arc.
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I kind of liked her. But then again, the ONLY character in the whole series that I actually dislike is Porche. If she didn't have Karoo, she probably wouldn't even be considered Strawhat material. That duck made all comedic relief amazing. But I really miss her as Ms. Wednesday, and I really liked Mr. 9.
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Christy has always liked Vivi. She remains in love with pretty princesses in fairy tales and Vivi is a lot like that. The princess isn't very strong physically but she's strong inside, much like many women like Cinderella and Sleeping Beauty and stuff. Vivi reminded Christy of that, and that's why this girl tends to like her.
She understands if people dislike her though… She wasn't perfect, and some flaws make people dislike OP characters than others. Personally, Christy doesn't like Zoro during his battles. Most of them are all Samurai-esque and stuff like Kenshin or something, which usually includes 15 minutes of him flashbacking to his past or whining about how either he's not good enough/he will become better after he defeats this person. It's boring. shrug
Christy is a strange woman. Not only does she enjoy talking in the third person, she also enjoys writing strange things. She thinks perhaps you should stay away from her. Or talk to her. She likes that too.
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I've always seen Usopp as the reader's portal into Straw Hat life. He's an average guy, scared, cowardly, whatever, and we can relate to that. Vivi attempted to do the same job, and worked… a little. She was much more sane than the other Straw Hats, allowing us to see what life is truly like with them. When she was worried about her country, it was a very moving story, but that's the only time. If she had joined, with no inspiration like her country, she would have come off as annoying, nagging, and boring. However, that didn't make me any less sad to see her go just becausr that whole scene was so well written.
The only character I've ever hated was Bellamy. But then I realized, "Wait, Bellamy's purpose is for you to get the uncontrollable urge to take a violent dump in his mouth!" which made me realize how well-written a character he is and how much Oda rocks the house.
Also, Karoo is the best thing since Duck al'Orange, which is pretty damn tasty. Karoo is my heeeeeeeeeroooooooo!
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She is perfect for a typical 16 year old, but I have trouble liking 16 year old characters, one reason I really hated the Gundam SEED series with their characters all being 16 and stuff. But that's off topic.
I just found Vivi to be the Princess of too many flashbacks and she just seemed to just really urk me. The same way Conis does. I just don't think she's my type of character. Vivi is really touching, and a really well developed character, but there was just something about her that really urked me when she was in Arabasta. :\
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I certainly didn't hate Vivi, but I wasn't at all upset that she didn't stay with the crew. Like others have said, she can be kind of annoying. Of course if she remained with the crew knowing that Arabasta was safe she probably wouldn't have been annoying anymore, but I actually came to like her character more because of her goodbye scene. It showed us that her constant whining about saving her country wasn't bull. And I also think Vivi will use her position to help the Strawhats somewhere down the road.
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I always liked Vivi. To be sure, not the greatest of the OP characters, but she played her role very well. And WOOT! for any and all princesses who don't sit on their keisters waiting for a prince to save them. She went out and got things done herself.
Besides, if there was no Vivi we would not have the Baroque Works Saga, which is still one of the great highlights of the One Piece series.
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Well I like her loads… it's too obvious from my name here obviously...
I can see a lot of her character traits that resemble mine, plus the Italian dub was so awesome that Vivi is one of the favorite characters over here.
I cannot say anything but, that I like her a lot... (especially paired with Zoro...) but that folks, is a whole different story :D ;) -
Personally, Christy doesn't like Zoro during his battles. Most of them are all Samurai-esque and stuff like Kenshin or something, which usually includes 15 minutes of him flashbacking to his past or whining about how either he's not good enough/he will become better after he defeats this person. It's boring. shrug
Funny, I feel the same way about Zoro's battles too.
Although personally I <3 ZoroxVivi lol Somehow, two wrongs DOES make a right
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Well, I can see why nobody would like Dub Vivi :P, But thats about it.
I liked Vivi as a character, I just wish I could've seen her fight a little more than about three times.
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She seemed kind of bland and angsty to me, although I don't hate her (mostly because of Carue though). She was just kind of a "blah" character I suppose.
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I like her.
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http://apforums.net/showthread.php?p=388257#post388257
Just because I don't feel like repeating myself.
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How the fuck did she get ranked so high in barouge works
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I frickin love Vivi, and Zulen, I don't know what your problem is but like Cos-chan said, no character bashing. So keep it to yourself.
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There's a difference between discussing the shortcomings of a character and bashing. There's more to a character than physical strength. It was Vivi's strength of persistence and heart for her country and friends that defined her character. She wasn't supposed to be a fighter, although she did manage to rank high with BW, if you know about how BW rankings worked, her job along with Mr. 9 and Igaram weren't fighters, they were public relations and dealers, doing tasks like getting food and provisions for the organization. They merely needed to be able to hold their own against average people.
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@Private:
http://apforums.net/showthread.php?p=388257#post388257
Just because I don't feel like repeating myself.
Ok, I'm glad that Cosmic went ahead and closed that terrible character bashing thread that you opened before I went ahead and commented.
First off, if you're going to bash one character from One Piece, then go ahead and bash every other character that has ever exist as well.
Secondly, Vivi's character was well developed and all the "cons" that you tried to make into an argument were pathetic in terms of that they didn’t really make Vivi look bad but actually increased you’re feel for her character.
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She seemed kind of bland and angsty to me, although I don't hate her (mostly because of Carue though). She was just kind of a "blah" character I suppose.
She was almost emo, all that was missing were the razor blades! jk.
I don't really hate her either, but all in all she was just a plot character to move the story foreward. She's done her job. We've been through 2-3 arcs to realize that. She isn't coming back, unless Oda has some crazy miracle up his sleeve. :happy:
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I like Vivi, i didn't have problems with her in almost anything, at the start,
i know she's not gonna be much of a fighter and all… so i didn't expect much... but she also gave me a good feeling when she was with the crew... and about helping the strawhats, i also think it's possible, Oda brought back Coby and Helmeppo, so y not a nakama that traveled with them for a long tym, and since the World is there enemy now, they may be the only one that can help them... yeah, i don't dislike her or nething... but i miss her so much. -
Ok, I'm glad that Cosmic went ahead and closed that terrible character bashing thread that you opened before I went ahead and commented.
First off, if you're going to bash one character from One Piece, then go ahead and bash every other character that has ever exist as well.
Secondly, Vivi's character was well developed and all the "cons" that you tried to make into an argument were pathetic in terms of that they didn’t really make Vivi look bad but actually increased you’re feel for her character.
Yeah, I fail to see an ounce of logic in both of those statements.
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Maybe you don't understand "logic" then.
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Then maybe you're infinate vault of it can help explain it to me?
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oosh I just read some posts of Buuhan, and this one, well..ah who cares? It's their problem…or his, to post that if he wants to or not.
Vivi? Well, I don't like her, and I dont care about her, but I'm not saying I hate her or anything, I guess she was kind of cool...Even if she's alittle annoying at times.
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Vivi wasn't really a fighter… So if that's what you use to dictate a character being "useful" or not, then, well, Vivi's whole purpose must've flew right over your head.
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Trust me, that's what I thought at first, RomanGod. However, the more I thought about it, the more itrigued I got.
Seriously, Vivi didn't really do anything recognizable (At least until you think really hard about it). Her only helping was with the bomb (And that was still barely a contribution), and to be honest, I think Oda threw that whole "Bomb" thing in to make her do something worthwhile.
I mean, honestly, that "Bomb" thing seems horribly forced.
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Eh she was ok, I hated how much she complained. It was realistic but still annoying.
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@Private:
Trust me, that's what I thought at first, RomanGod. However, the more I thought about it, the more itrigued I got.
Seriously, Vivi didn't really do anything recognizable (At least until you think really hard about it). Her only helping was with the bomb (And that was still barely a contribution), and to be honest, I think Oda threw that whole "Bomb" thing in to make her do something worthwhile.
I mean, honestly, that "Bomb" thing seems horribly forced.
She still saved her country. She was made to pretty much show how brave she was, even if she was just a princess.
And also to show her love towards her country. She'd go through any length just to save it, and she did.
Everything was all for nothing
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Vivi was an impetus in the story…she was blueprint rather than a construction tool. She didn't do a lot physically, but without her, there was no Alabasta arc. If she hadn't gone and disguised herself as a BW agent, she would have never befriended the strawhats. they would have moved on from Laboon onto a different road. Alabasta would have fallen to Crocodile's power. And all along, it was because they were so moved by Vivi's passion for her people and country that they decided to risk their lives.
Vivi did all she was physically able to do, and a quite a bit beyond that. If we are supposed to believe that we as human beings have to be heavy hitters to make a difference in the world, than it's pretty hopeless. That's why I liked Vivi. She didn't have the muscle, but she had heart, and the determination and stamina to keep going to make things happen in whatever way she could. That's how revolutions are made to happen.And complaining? When did she complain?
Usopp is probably the biggest complainer on the whole show. :P Vivi actually had reasons to be distressed and sad.Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible. - Frank Zappa
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Let me just add that Vivi was also the tactician for the the Strawhats.
~The princess and the swordsman~
How can you not fall in love with him?>Zoro x Vivi shipper forever<
