The how to draw so and so thread

warp

ok basically i thought of something might be useful, it might not. You know those books where it shows you how to draw like dragonball z or w/e i thought we could have it on this forum but whoever like one piece guys, etc. I would contribute but i dont have a scanner and if i taught something it wouldnt be good XD

I have a question how do u draw franky's hair. I keep praticing but everytime it looks like crap ;-;.

That and nami's eyes….>>

So basically share how to draw people step by step like in drawing books.

(hopefully some people will contribute :happy: )

Conekiller

I cannot get Robin's face and hair to llook right. It always looks flat (like Professor Utonium flat O_o )

Local-chan

You have to remember, Robin's hair looks flat most of the time, so it shouldn't be too hard to do that. Also, personally I just drew her nose normally, then added an extra line afterwards.

KamenRiderNeko

hmm… what if we just merged this thread w/ the one that Cosmic made? its pretty much the same thing, no?

also, I still have trouble drawing Usopp..... and Luffy's hair is a pain for some reason! >.<

Charlett

Luffy's hair is always a problem for Christy. Changsho has been trying to teach her, but she is a terrible art student, especially with an MSN doodle mouse.

What kind of trouble do you have with Usopp, Pirate Neko? Is it the physical structure or something on his face or his bandana or something? something something somethi gets shot

warp

@pirateneko:

hmm… what if we just merged this thread w/ the one that Cosmic made? quote]

thats kinda where i got the motivation but i thought this could be an alround thread XD

also people can post there own little tutorial on how to draw people.

EX: how to draw ener by changso
How to draw sanji, franky, and usopp in a badass pic by e1n

CosmicDebris

Well, like I said the first time the idea was brought up…if you want to draw the One Piece characters, you need to learn how to draw the human figure first. So really you should start with some basic anatomy. Then to draw the characters, just look at Oda's drawings and copy them until you get a good feel for the uniqueness of their features.
I could post a series of my progress in drawing a character, I suppose. But I draw in such a haphazard fashion. :P

As for drawing Usopp...I had a hard time with him too when I first started out. I think the problem that some people have is they get locked up in the oddness of his features and think that they have to change the way they draw. He doesn't appear to be all that proportionate because he's got a huge nose and huge mouth and somewhat long face. I find that I do better just starting to draw a face just like I would anyone else's, and then add on the wierd things like the lips and nose.
And btw, you HAVE to draw the nose. I have seen people draw noseless Usopp and it's just WRONG. XD

And Luffy's hair... be loose with the pencil, and do light, sweeping strokes. The strands clump together in a sparse, wild fashion.

e1n

franky

soge

nami eye

robin eye

oceanizer

That's a… nice tutorial O_O

Buuhan1

I'd expect nothing less from the great e1n.

e1n

usopp

though, i need to remind all of you, this is like, textbook way of drawing these characters. and when i said textbook, it's not ODA-STYLE way of drawing, but more of emphasizing on certain features that you can observe directly from the character. for example, how the distance between usopp's mouth and nose is a bit greater than other characters.

if you just follow these directions, then all you're doing is like being a manga artist from the franchised "how to draw manga" book. you need to add your own twist, your own style to it to make your drawing more lively and unique.

i fail at that. all i do is copying oda's style, and even that i still fail. -__-
that's why i like the stick figure drawing better than my other "good" drawings, because at least it's my own style and i'm not just trying to imitate oda.

anyway, regarding usopp, i'm sure people like cosmic/taboo/chang has their own way of drawing usopp, and the points that they pay attention to might be different from what i pay attention to. the best way is to get a reference picture from the manga and try to observe as much as you can and find your own few important points that can make your drawing look like the way you want it to look like.

Conekiller

I would be eternally thankful for a "how hair falls" type tutorial that always trips me up (tho I'm lucky with a drawing I'm making now most of the Strawhats have a more "professional" hairstyle, so I can cheat a bit ^_^; )

KamenRiderNeko

that is very helpful, e1n! though, i used to draw from those How to Draw Manga books…. I think those are so useless, I hate them. I'd rather draw from my own mind or from life than waste a whole $20 on that crap....

thanks for the tips on Luffy, Cosmic! and i know what you mean about the noseless Usopps cries it bothers me too!

CosmicDebris

Yeah, thos "how to draw so-and-so" books are crap. The only use you may find with them is finding cool action poses to draw. If you really want to learn to draw, I suggest buying Barcsay's Anatomy for the Artist and Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain by Betty Edwards.

Local-chan

The More How to Draw books are very good, I liked them ones, there are only 4 and they help you get started.

taboo

I hate those "HOW TO DRAW MANGA" type books. >__> The only one of those books I'd consider buying would be the clothing/costume one. Other than that .. -pbbt-

e1n

the how to draw manga books really are a setback to the manga world. while it actually teaches people how to draw, it also creates an army of generic mangaka who will all draw in the same generic style. it seriously kills creativity and style. <_<

CosmicDebris

Yeah, that's true…and that contributes to the mindset that people have when the see something that looks different like One Piece and they say "it's not really anime, because it doesn't look like those cookie-cutter drawings of anime characters".

jadiesama

@taboo:

I hate those "HOW TO DRAW MANGA" type books. >__> The only one of those books I'd consider buying would be the clothing/costume one. Other than that .. -pbbt-

even at that that one's not too good. I had a bunch of those books and i never used them. I go for the slightly cheaper method of going through books, magazines and the internet and find pics to use as reference. Of course i do still have a few books that i've found pretty nifty. Some of the better books i have are Burne Hogarth's 'Dynamic' series which goes over hands, figures, shading and folds in clothing. The last book i've found to be an immense help.

CosmicDebris

Oh yeah, the Hogarth books are good. Even though most of his drawings look like buff superheros. I saw the clothing/fabric book at Borders. Thanks for reminding me, now I know what how use my Borders card that I got for my birthday. :)

warp

Ah thank you e1n. And yeah i take a how to draw manga/amime class and i have learned porportion (tho sometimes my torso is too long >>).

that is really good.

KamenRiderNeko

@CosmicDebris:

Yeah, that's true…and that contributes to the mindset that people have when the see something that looks different like One Piece and they say "it's not really anime, because it doesn't look like those cookie-cutter drawings of anime characters".

omg did someone really say that? geez, that's why i'm starting to hate most anime these days…. its getting so generic, thank god there are still a few good titles (ahem, One Piece....)

I also freakin HATE those Christopher Hart books... god his anime/manga style sucks, he can't color worth crap, and the only good artwork in those books is the stuff that he doesn't draw....

But anyway, like I said, I like threads like these, its nice to know there are people on here willing to teach/learn how to draw.

CosmicDebris

@pirateneko:

omg did someone really say that?

Yeah, I've seen people say that a LOT. I've also seen someone insist that One Piece is drawn Shoujo style. :blink:

e1n

bwahahahahaha. this is shoujo? that cracks me up.

Ms. Suave Debonair

What the hell?! shoujo?!
Somebody needs to GTFO…:dry:

jadiesama

wooooow…One Piece as a shoujo? I can't see it. None of the guys are pretty enough to be in a shoujo.

I also freakin HATE those Christopher Hart books… god his anime/manga style sucks, he can't color worth crap, and the only good artwork in those books is the stuff that he doesn't draw....

Christopher Hart = worst books on art EVER. I had one of those for animation, and it was pretty useless.

e1n

shoujo OP

ok, ok, i know this doesn't really mean shoujo, but i couldn't resist. XD

jadiesama

i think that's more CLAMP, than general shoujo, but its still funny as hell.

KamenRiderNeko

lol!!!! omg that is too funny! One Piece a SHOUJO?! ahahaa…. if it was, there'd already be romance and who knows how big a love triangle...polygon... whatever... oh man... sadly, the only one that fits that style is Sanji, since he's sort of a prettyboy X3 Usopp should look more girly XD

e1n

the worst day on earth will be when oda died and CLAMP takes over one piece. i shall commit seppuku when that day comes, and no, no tekkai used.

jadiesama

i DISPISE CLAMP with every fiber of my being. they're the crowning achievement in overrated comics/cartoons.

CosmicDebris

lmao XD

Actually, I HAVE seen some really girly looking OP characters in doujins. :P

meethz

most OP doujins are shoujou-ly drawn anyway. >_> especially if it's gen.

and i second jadie about CLAMP.

Bounty1Berry

Arlong-sama's head gets me. It's like he has a NEGATIVE forehead. :D

jadiesama

there's this one japanese site called MKDAN, and the artist draws the single-most effeminate Usopp i have ever seen. S/he also draws him as a her, and makes me believe that he'd look really cute as a girl.

Arlong-sama's head gets me. It's like he has a NEGATIVE forehead. :D

it's not that he has a negative forehead, it's that he has an immense chin.

CosmicDebris

@jadiesama:

there's this one japanese site called MKDAN, and the artist draws the single-most effeminate Usopp i have ever seen.

I probably have seen it before. I do not like effeminate Usopp. >_< Even if he does look cute.

Bounty1Berry

@jadiesama:

there's this one japanese site called MKDAN, and the artist draws the single-most effeminate Usopp i have ever seen. S/he also draws him as a her, and makes me believe that he'd look really cute as a girl.
it's not that he has a negative forehead, it's that he has an immense chin.

It's not just the chin, the head cuts off at the nose.. it's like there's no room for emotive eyes.

That's why I stick with Kuroobi, he's drawable. :D

BTW: Your Mary OC, who is absolutely gorgeous– what sort of gyojin is she?

bevin

On the topic of OP as a shoujo and pretty boys, I feel the need to post my "how to tell if a character is bish" guide. Essentially, you put them in drag and if they score whiplash points from every straight guy in the viscinity, they're bish. I tested it on Sanji.

Conclusion: Not a bish. Feel free to slap anyone who says otherwise, with this picture if necessary.

On the topic of drawing OP characters, I usually use the settei pre images if I can find them, they're really handy for things like eyes/nose/mouth shape, hair, clothing, all that.

Buuhan1

I'm about to goto bed….that picture of Sanji is gonna give my nightmares...thanks bevin...

jadiesama

God that picture of Sanji's hilarious.

@Bounty1Berry:

BTW: Your Mary OC, who is absolutely gorgeous– what sort of gyojin is she?

d'awww….blush I never thought people would take such a shine to Mary. I'm still not quite sure why either. Anyway she's a lionfish gyojin, a not too bright one at that.

Bounty1Berry

@jadiesama:

d'awww….blush I never thought people would take such a shine to Mary. I'm still not quite sure why either. Anyway she's a lionfish gyojin, a not too bright one at that.

Well, she's attractively proportioned without having that whole "snaps in two in a strong wind" thing Nami and Robin have developed, and you draw her with expressiveness and personality.

bevin

Heh. I'm always happy to scar new people with that picture. XD

But Conekiller had a question on drawing Robin and I thought a settei pre might help.

Conekiller

Yay! wherefore might I find more like this?

Ms. Suave Debonair

Most, if not all, can be found over on eastblue..

here's the link
Settei Pre

CosmicDebris

I also have some color ones that are from Movie 7.

Here's Luffy, Usopp, and Chopper: http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/9427/usoluffcs4lb.jpg

Zoro and Sanji: http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/9905/zorosanjics9wi.jpg

Robin and Nami: http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/2757/m7prog118sf.jpg

KamenRiderNeko

damn…. O.O those are some SEXY character sheets! steals them thanks for posting those, Cosmic! where'd you find them?

its amazing how much they look like the manga versions! i wish the anime looked more like that...

jadiesama

…Nami Croft?

Conekiller

That Black Pants-style Robin is quite possibly the hottest thing ever O_O

Pirateneko: The anime has started shifting into that style. personally, I don't like it….just look at how thick Sanji's neck is! ^_^

KamenRiderNeko

but its more true to the manga, so that's why i like it n__n

i kinda like that Sanji is looking more manly… still not as hot as Zoro though <3

captain usopp

Ah, I'm so glad someone is commenting on this. I'm just getting caught up and I hate how the charicters are being drawn now. The body proportions are always drawn wierd.

Nami's face looks wierd and angular. zoro's face looks 2 dementional, I like sanji when he looks like a pretty boy, that's his charm. (sanji before) Luffy's nose is pointy like a beak. chopper looks so different it's not even funny. he looks more like a toy than a real animal. The only one who looks any better is Robin, and that's because she already has an angular face.

and Conekiller, that's a definite with all the charicters necks. Oh ya, and the women's wastes are so thin now, they're gonna break in half from the weight of their boobs. It's a little too rediculous how disproportionate they are.