Relationships <3

eblob88

I don't know if anybody else have realized this but I feel like there are some love relationship going on in One Piece. Even though I don't think Oda Sensei is that kind of person but I have these gut feelings…

Nami + Luffy: Even though Nami beats the crap out of Luffy sometimes as a joke but I think she's got this feeling for him

Robin + Zoro: Zoro didn't trust her at first but eventually she gained his trust and Zoro became protective when Enel shocked her big time

Zoro + Dashigi: U know how this works

Poor Sanji....

paptschik

Whenever there is a "friendship" moment among the characters, there are many people who think that this moment clearly shows that x loves y. Doesn't matter if the couple in question happens to be Robin and Zoro or Usoopp and Nami or…whatever, Zoro and Chopper...it's not a matter of "what is there", but it's a matter of "what do you like".
I like Usopp and Nami...it's in fact totally stupid and (thank god) never going to happen (Usopp belongs to Kaya anyway), but, as dumb as it is, as a fan-thing...yeah, why not, I like it...and because I like it, I can see all the hints, that in fact aren't hints, but...well, just proove of their friendship.

Ohara

Oda has said that there is no romance in One Piece. But as a fan I like these pairings.
Luffy/Robin
Luffy/Nami
Zoro/Tashigi
Sanji/Nami
Zoro/Vivi
Sanji/Vivi

Xrono

shonen action manga generally isn't known for romance, and Oda is worst than most. There will NEVER be any sort of romance between the SH crew.

CosmicDebris

It's all in the realm of fanfiction. You can think up as many reasons why a particular pairing would work as you like, but in the end it's just fan fantasy and the chances of anything like it happening is slim.

Ulrilra

@Ohara:

Oda has said that there is no romance in One Piece. But as a fan I like these pairings.
Luffy/Robin
Luffy/Nami
Zoro/Tashigi
Sanji/Nami
Zoro/Vivi
Sanji/Vivi

Just curious - where did Oda say that?

DeadJustice

He never really said it straight out, but in a SBS where a reader asked about character romances his response was along the lines that "they're in love with adventure"

Deblas

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CosmicDebris

I thought he was referring to Ohara's quote….which was misread, obviously.

Conekiller

as PURE FAN SPECULATION I've always liked the way Vivi affectiantely refers to Zoro as Mr Bushido.. Even tho I like a Vivi/Luffy thing better.

Sanji/Nami all the way.

Johnny/Yosaku…?

Mr. All Sunday

I've been, and always will be a Robin and Zoro fan. The two just seem to have some weird chemical match thing, and after seeing the scene immediately after Robin's interview; I melted and decided that they're the greatest fan pairing ever (Roy and Riza run a close second though). I wrote the introduction to a series of fluffy one shots about the two recently.

Seta Ginny

Here we go again…Zoro/Nami owns my soul. Sanji/Nami comes close though.

(And I too Roy/Riza, though they're a lot closer to being a canon pairing than any OP pairing will ever be... but that's another story)

Bounty1Berry

I like Usopp x Kaya. It's canon-plausible and doesn't inspire sick stuff.

Other relationships I'll take with evidence (Perhaps Smoker x Tashigi is why he keeps a bumbling assistant on), or for humour value (Arlong x Chuu because, gosh, it's an all-male scheme)

Sanji Of Straw

Romance in One Piece would never work.

Luffy is to stupid to grasp the concept.
Zoro just doesn't seem capable of loving.
Nami gets frustrated with most of the strawhats.
Usopp Has Kaya, but they might not see each other for a long time.
Sanji would probably cheat on his girlfriends.
Chopper's a Reindeer >_>
Robin…....uh?

bevin

Ahhh and once again this comes up. Just remember to keep it civil, people, no calling whatever pairing stupid or someone stupid for liking it since, as many people have already pointed out, none of it's cannon anyway.

Personally, I like SanjixNami, UsoppxKaya, VivixKohza, and maybe ZoroxTashigi, I'm not really sold on it yet, though. Oh, and SmokerxHina. ^^ Honestly, in cannon, I prefer no pairings. I like a show that doesn't get bogged down with all the 'will they won't they' back and forth stuff. It's all about the nakama-love for me. ^_^

I think Zoro x Robin is the best pair

KamenRiderNeko

@Mr.:

I've been, and always will be a Robin and Zoro fan. The two just seem to have some weird chemical match thing, and after seeing the scene immediately after Robin's interview; I melted and decided that they're the greatest fan pairing ever (Roy and Riza run a close second though). I wrote the introduction to a series of fluffy one shots about the two recently.

yes! totally agree! Zoro x Robin is my favorite pairing. There is just so much I love about both characters in general and together. It would make my day to see even a hint of romantic interest between these two. I still wouldn't say "there'll never be any romance in One Piece." Oda is so unpredicatable its not even funny. and NO I am NOT saying its gonna happen, but one can only hope.

but anyway…. while I think that Usopp x Nami is a fun idea, I still love Usopp x Kaya, because its more likely to happen and they are just too cute.

Its hard for me to choose Luffy x Nami and Sanji x Nami, but honestly, I think Nami would get fed up with Sanji sooner because he's so darn clingy (typical Pisces, like my husband... no offense to anyone!) but still... its like she has an older sister-relationship with Luffy, but I still see possibilities...so in a way, I lean more towards LuNa.

And since there's no chance of there being romance in One Piece, there's even LESS chance of.... oh say, Zoro x Sanji... XD I mean, c'mon. They leave themselves open so much. Sanji is so metro. but its obviously a fan pairing, and most of those "canon" moments are in the anime.

ritsu

^_^ I agree with you and I'm a Luffy/Nami fan..

and for those people who keep saying luffys stupid , then I wonder why he nosebleeded when he saw nami's naked body…

Kaos

He also got excited when Bon Clay/Nami showed his/her boobs, but he's not a horny guy, that's for sure xDD

Nah, I wouldn't like romance in this series, it's enough with the humorous ones (Sanji/any pretty girl & Jango-Fullbody/Hina) xD

Kokolores

@Xrono:

shonen action manga generally isn't known for romance, and Oda is worst than most. There will NEVER be any sort of romance between the SH crew.

actually most - I would go even so far to say almost all - shonen mangas have a bit of romance. However the story never really focusses on the relationships. They are usually plain obvious but things often don't even get to the stage of a confession or the like and if they do things mostly get glossed over. One Piece so far hasn't shown any real romance because it's way to crazy. I doubt Oda could built a true romance into the story while keeping his usual drug-induced style. My opinion is better non at all than a generic shallow one. Moreover I for one don't miss them I read enough manga's where romance is a main topic MSN or SR for example. In those I have enough possible pairings to last me for a lifetime.

Ohara

@DeadJustice:

He never really said it straight out, but in a SBS where a reader asked about character romances his response was along the lines that "they're in love with adventure"

That SBS is what I was refering too, when I said that.

funkyfunkyusopp

Eh I know theres only been ONE cannon pair in all of Op where both parties have both been alive. Inigram X his wife…

btu yeah >_o

I think there could have been stuff between the following..

Johnny X Yosaku
Dr X Doctrine [sp]
Usopp X Kaya
Vivi X Mr 9
Vivi X Kohza
Buggy X Alvida
Shanks x Makino
Nami X Usopp

yeah big list…. and thats not even the pairs I like.. XD

Caracal

I agree with everyone else when they say it's unlikely any pairing will actually happen in One Piece and feel that the series works fine without any. However I do like the Luffy/Nami pairing. I feel there is a strong bond of friendship in the series and in my eyes love is just the next step from friendship, even if it is unlikely to happen.

However I do have a belief that (to a degree) their closeness as friends is almost like love, even if it's just love between siblings.

daRk26

Yup. Luffy and Nami. They got something going on, alright. Look how much she wants to beat him up sometimes. If that's not love, I don't know what is.

CosmicDebris

The only pairings I actually enjoy are Usopp x Kaya and Usopp x Nami. My scope is incredibly limited.

COWMAKAZE

Personally, I don't think real serious, are-they-in-love romance doesn't fit in One Piece too well, but there are some obvious ones - Ussop and Kaya, obviously, but that one was really shoved in our faces, wasn't it? It's like that's destined to be Usopp's ending. Besides that, I really think that love in OP is a very vague, nebulous deal. It's like what a little kid thinks of love, which I love about the story - it appeals to your little kid sense of adventure, while keeping you guessing as to the big mysteries and marveling over the crazy-unique points. Romance would just get in the way, or at least romance in the adult sense. It seems the only romance we get is the kind that you notice as a kid, which are childhood love (Usopp and Kaya, Vivi and Kohza), marital love (Igaram and his wife), pretty much lust (Sanji, Fullbody, Jango, although Sanji is really too polite for it to be classified as lust), and brotherly love (the entire Mugiwara pirate crew. Come on, this is what OP is all about!). I find anything else to be reaching.

Actually, I think Oda said it best himself. They're all in love with adventure! There's too much adventure, partying, mystery, for anything else, and I couldn't be happier any other way.

CosmicDebris

@COWMAKAZE:

Ussop and Kaya, obviously, but that one was really shoved in our faces, wasn't it? It's like that's destined to be Usopp's ending.

Maybe, I wouldn't rule that out, but honestly, I never really saw it that way…it never was a romantic relationship, and he left the island without any promises or proclaimations, and to this day, never writes to Kaya, never mentions her, and we don't see what Kaya is up to either.
And I hate to think of any of the strawhats simply retiring to a boring life. They're in love with adventure, as Oda says, and it just seems wrong to think that they won't continue on together as family for an unspecified amount of time.

Ohara

I might be imaging things, but at the beginning of Water 7, didn't Usopp and Sanji talk about Kaya.
It might be in Skypiea. My memory isn't that good. But I am pretty sure that Usopp has mentioned her before.

Aldrich

I think the fact Usopp had such a hard time accepting Merry's death had a lot to do with the fact it was Kaya who gave them this ship.

Deblas

Doesn't Usopp tend to mention alot that it was Kaya who gave them the ship?

CosmicDebris

Yes, Usopp mentioned ONCE that the ship was given to them by Kaya. That was during Jaya. During the whole ordeal with Merry in Water 7, Kaya was never mentioned at all. The only reason he continues to give about his attachment to Merry was that Merry is a living nakama.
There were some other scenes where she came up in the anime, but they were in fillers (i.e. in the lost memories arc)

Ulrilra

If Oda did make any pairings, my guess is that they'd be at the end of the manga, so the story wouldn't get ruined by them. It could be like how Rurouni Kenshin ended - the "Romance" between Kaoru and Kenshin was never really stressed all that much. It was only in the final chapter(s) that it was made undeniably clear (what with Kaoru having Kenshin's child and all).

Malintex_Terek

Usopp & Kaya
Kohza & Vivi
Zoro & Tashigi
Sanji & Nami

…

Those seem the be the most likely. We can't tell if romance would work well in OP because Oda hasn't really bothered to touch the subject, but I could not envision the frosting of the cake that is character development to be romance-flavoured. If Oda could pull it off, he would have successfully mastered yet another genre of storytelling, as if adventure/action/comedy/drama/mystery/historical/supernatural/horror/science fiction WASN'T ENOUGH!

Doskoi-Pandaman

to be honest i dont think one piece needs to be hampered down with things like love relations in the crew, their personalities themselves are designed to make the reader love them, and connect with them in a way that makes reading one piece even more of a joy.

KamenRiderNeko

@CosmicDebris:

And I hate to think of any of the strawhats simply retiring to a boring life. They're in love with adventure, as Oda says, and it just seems wrong to think that they won't continue on together as family for an unspecified amount of time.

Yeah, I like that idea. I hope we get to see them grow older and still be adventuring together. I really can't see Luffy parting with any of them unless one of them died… which is an even worse thought, and I know "shit happens" but dammit I don't know what I'd do if one of them died...

CosmicDebris

Yeah, I just hate to think of them all seperating, or worse, dying, it makes me sad. :sad:

Kei

My favorite pairings are still

Zoro x Swords
Nami x Money
Robin x Books
Luffy x Meat

CosmicDebris

Luffy x Meat? But what about Luffy x HAT? Hat has feelings too you know. And there's always Usopp x Merry/Klabautermann.

Sanji Of Straw

@Kei:

My favorite pairings are still

Zoro x Swords
Nami x Money
Robin x Books
Luffy x Meat

I stand corrected. There is romance in one piece

Malintex_Terek

Luffy & Alvida. I totally forgot about it.

CosmicDebris

What about FullbodyxJango? Or even better, FullbodyxJangoxHina?

Ranier

Hmm… have I ever noticed the romantic subtext?

I wasn't going to touch this thread because with a subject like that, very soon it'd become pages and pages of Pairings-I-Like-And-Why-They-Are-The-Shit and more. Hence, nth-ing the "Here we go again…" sigh.

But, I'm here, yeah? That's because OP ownz my soul and I'm in the mood to talk about romantic relationships (and I just ate a bunch of chocolate).

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One pair I very rarely hear anyone discuss is Usopp's parents, Yasopp and Bakina (sp?). I know they both don't show up much, a fleeting here and there, but has anyone ever wondered about their relationship?

I find it encouraging that Usopp grew up without hating his father for leaving his wife and child behind. His mother, I believe, played a central role in his development. She raised him alone, with probably the burdensome stigma of a pirate's wife, and managed to teach Usopp how to survive. I think this is one of many instances where we can see how strong Oda's female characters are.

The other example may be Igaram's wife. Left by her husband for years, she appeared to be a capable woman, maintaining a whole palace in order. In a way, she's similar to women whose husbands/lovers have departed to war and must face the possibility that they will never meet again. I don't think she's heartless. I think she trusts Igaram so much that she is certain he'll come back. If that isn't devotion, what is?

The cases with Usopp's parents and Mr. & Ms. Igaram are what I call truly romantic. Too bad they're not explored at all.

Thoughts?

*Meh*

Sniffle Very moving. Such devotion is, indeed, the cornerstone of romance and one of the Three Pillars of Erotic Love. The other two, as I understand them, are trust and desire.

KamenRiderNeko

I agree, that was very moving. Its too bad we never got to see Usopp's parents together. Its just one of those instances that shows you that a pirate's life is not an easy one.

CosmicDebris

I'm hoping that once Usopp and Yasopp meet, we get a little flashback about he and Shanks and the whole situation of leaving his family behind and going with Shanks crew, that would be nice.

KamenRiderNeko

oh i know! i just want the two crews to meet again soon, or at least while they're on the grand line.

Cochise

I think it would be interesting if Yasopp challenged Usopp to a duel so that Yasopp could see how well of a marksmen his son is but I wouldn't expect Usopp to win.