I was looking around youtube and I found a video for Digimon season 5.
Digimon Savers.
Like, honestly .. I think they should stop now. >_>;;
Here's a short video of it.
they're using Agumon again as the main Digimon .. he was only good in the first 2 seasons .. cuz those were the only good ones cuz they DID keep the original kids.
so, what do u think?
It COULD be good. It ain't out yet, so we don't know.
But I doubt it.
Like Digimon Tamers wasn't that good. And Digimon Frontier was "OKAY" cuz it had more people in it .. turning into the Digimon is what I dont like. ^^;;
After season 1 it was lame so I doubt I'll be interested.
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Season I (Digimon Adventure) was wonderful; not too much depth, non-stop entertaining battles, humours dub and colourful animation. Was a real riot, that show.
The second show (Digimon Zero Two) was lamer than the first, thought it had high points (Digimon Kaizer, BlackWarGreymon, reincarnation of Myotismon).
Tamers was a car crash; I hated it at first glance, and continued to hate it afterward; in it's attempt to turn Digimon into a "philosophical" anime, in ended up retarding the series and drove many of my friends away from Saturday Morning cartoons. Then I found out it was based on Evangelion; now I refuse to even acknowledge it as a Digimon season.
Frontier had a bad concept. Savers will likely follow in the same suit.
Geez, am I the only one that actually liked Tamers? It felt darker, which I actually liked about the series. :/
Frontier I heard was bad, but never really saw enough to find out for myself…
Hmm tis a shame this took off gash bell's place. It looks like crap. The only seasons i liked of digimon are 1 and 2.
_ Originally Posted by mr.allsunday
Nice job jumping on the bandwagon there Aethos, I can only wish I was as cool as you_
Horse crap :sad: …Another Digimon disaster.
Why does this piece of trash have to take Gash Bell's place?
I liked series 1 and 2 the best. I didn't like series 2 that much at first, but by the end I liked it quite a bit. I liked Mummymon, Oikawa, and Wormmon.
My favorite thing about 3 was that monkey digimon, Makuramon I think.
I never got to see series 4.
Hey, the not-goggle boy punches a Champion-level IN THE FACE. I think I can give it a try.
If Etemon isn't there neither am I
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@Cap'n:
If Etemon isn't there neither am I
etemon = OWNAGE :laugh:
I'll give it a chance. :/ I liked Zero Two and Frontier the best if only for Ken and Kouichi. Season one was cool too, but tamers… I think, I was just too disappointed that the original kids were gone to actually enjoy it. Is it even coming to America anyway?
If Etemon isn't there neither am I
He was awsome. x3
Digimon Adventure is probably one of the best animes I've watched, childish, yes, but it managed to provide a compelling story and a whole new orld with its own set of rules. It also touched on the matter of having one real, true friend just for you who'll always be there when you need him. I think that's a beautiful dream, and I'll always remain loyal to the first season.
But then came the Digimon 02 and it was… crap. It seemed like they'd cut Digimon down to the American 4kids standards: no death, no drama, no kids missing school. I was deeply disappointed, particularly because a lot of people seemed to like it and it just wasn't the same thing. Worse characters, worse humor and a seriously magnified "Chibiusa complex".
Digimon Tamers managed to pick it up and make another compelling plot with likeable characters, although they did drag the whole Juri angst for far too long.
And finally Digimon Frontier, which totally missed the point of Digimon, it's not about discovering a new world and saving it, it's about actually having a Digimon... they truly jumped the shark there.
Now we have a new Digimon series which seems to be going to pick up where Tamers left. It's being done by a different company, I hear, and much good can't come from that. I'm giving it an opportunity. The characters seem older and more mature, and we could be in for a great story. Right now I'm not liking the fact that they're reusing Agumon, and the other Digimon look like pokemon, which can't be good. I don't know if you've seen them, clean lines, no grizzly details, much too soft and bright for Digimon, and Lalamon looks exactly like sunflora...
But I'm happy to be seeing more Digimon overall, if only because it might get Adventure back on TV...
But then came the Digimon 02 and it was… crap. It seemed like they'd cut Digimon down to the American 4kids standards: no death, no drama, no kids missing school.
They did show Osamu getting hit by a car…. I do agree with you though, I think Yolei especially took the 'I don't want anyone to die' thing a bit to far, especially when they are simply reborn again. >__> I disagree that the season was a total loss though. At least Adventure got dvds.... >/
You know, what I like alot about Digimon is that each season has something different to offer. There isn't a predominatly loved season, except for maybe the first one (which I didn't actually care for/watch until 02 pulled me in).
Man, I have so many memories of waking up early and watching digimon on FOX Kids. I can't remember exactly when I got into it, i think it might've been near the first end of the Myotismon arc (when they go to the real world). I thought it was kinda dumb, then I got into it from the reruns and realy enjoyed it.
The biggest part for me was the Dark Master shit. Maaan I can barely remember how much I anxiously waited for the next saturday to come. And I was so FRIGGIN ECSTATIC the episode where Etemon came back as METALETEMON. That was the biggest comeback of all time, especially when he kicked Puppetmon's ass. I always thought his finish was kinda lame… oh well.
Wasn't there another Etemon in frontier or something? I read it on Wiki.
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Yeah, he was just some random Etemon, though. None of the funk and ambition of the first. Same goes with a number of the virii Digimon from Adventure; they're all tame now. :/
…
Ahh, the Dark Master saga! I thought the culmination of that was pretty good, too; Apocalymon was almost as crazy as Genai.
I like Digimon Adventure. It's hard for me to watch it due to my parent's hate toward it, I hate to watch it in secret and turn the volume down. They hate it because they don't like my obessession with it and they don't like the way the Digimon are designed. They see them as demons.
My view is differant, I don't like some Digmon design while I like some.
Digimon season 1 was thrilling and advanterous. It has good storytelling but no in-depht. I wish Toei expand the series to 100 but the made it 52 episode. The world and the characters were colorful, the battle was stunning, The Dark Masters were intersting, the story is humorous and good. One character I like the most was Jou Kido thus my board name.
Season 2: Kinda jumped the shark for me… Izzy, Sora, Mimi, Tai, Matt and Joe were pushed background to make room for Davis, Yolie, Cody, Hikari, Ken, and T.K. I felt Toei really made this season for money and no care for fans. The story was darker and less humorous during the Kaiser arc, but when he came down, the Digital World was your personal candy land.
The story did not get dark again untie the Oikawa arc.
Oikawa was intersting but he gets no deep character development and he is a joke for a villian: "HIROKI IS DEAD!!!! BHWAAAAA!!! Poor poor me, I wanna go to the Digital World! I wanna! I wanna! FUCK YOU HUMANS!! YOU STOLE MY PRECIOUS HIROKI AWAY! It's ALL YOUR FAULT!!!" Yes in reality he really hated him for dying. Why did Toei give him a pale skin and ugly face? Why can't he look normal instend of looking like a demon? Why did Oikawa not try hard to find friends? Why did he expect someone to walk right into him and be his friend? How did Oikawa open himself to Hiroki after showing he never laugh at him? Why did 6 years old Oikawa looks badly dressed? Has Oikawa found anyone else like Hiroki? Why did he not make friends with T.K.'s mom and Ken's father?
Why did he not go for Hiroki's father? Why did he not notice Cody? Should Oikawa hear the news that Hiroki has a son?
Oikawa sure don't have a likeble character except at the end. To me it seems Oikawa was a villian while using Hiroki's death for his actions, pity.
Well Oikawa's past was sad, yet he became a dark crybaby and Toei fouces on his nagitive side too much. Oikawa's Shame epsiode freaks me out, cool guys facing a tall ugly man "shutters". I was wondering what would happen if he smack Joe, Matt and Izzy in the face. Also He was the reason why I called Luffy "gothic" after his fight Usopp, his gloominess remainds me of Oikawa.
So the rest of season was full of plotholes and rushy excuses. Most characters are OOC, Deamon was thrown off and Dragomon gets a pointless comeo.
Season 3: Never watched much of it, no adventure, the story is dull.
Season 4: Never watched that much, and kids becoming digimon is intersting.
I hope that season five is not some sort of a commerical material. And I hope the story is good and adventerous.
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they see them as demons? are these still the puritan times? (im joking)
I liked season 1 of course. Season 2 got much better when they left the digiarmor evolution behind and got to real digivolution. I actually liked season 3, but that is just me apparently. Season 4 was the only one that i didnt like at all just because it felt like alot of it was revisited ground after seeing that season 3 was actually different from the other series. Hopefully, agumon can still warp digivolve or at least become war greymon because he rocked. I remember waking up early and seeing digimon on foxkids. It was soo cool when wargreymon and metalgarurumon made their appearances and kicked ass
@joekido:
Season 4: Never watched that much, and kids becoming digimon is intersting.
Kids becoming Digimon isn't really any different than teens becoming Power Rangers, really. Most of that happened in season three; season four had "spirit evolutions", which were beasts that had Digimon names but were not really Digimon at all.
Season four had a sort of "post apocalyptic" feeling to it, though; kinda like the events of season I and season II were a millenium away and the Digimon forgot humans, but aren't hostile to them. I think the atmosphere of the Digital World (prevalent in all Digimon seasons) was the only redeeming feature of season four. Nothing could save season three, though.
Season two, good lord, I LOVED IT. Well… I loved Ken mostly. I had blown off digimon as a mere pokemon wanna be and never gave it a chance. One day, I just happened to be flipping channels and I came across the part where the Digimon Kaiser finally realized that he was wrong and was in hysterics. I remember seeing Ken and those brilliant blue eyes of his and thinking 'whoa, who is this guy?' Then wormy goes and dies right in his arms. At that point, I was definentally interested to see what happened and eventually I became an insane raving fangirl. =P He's such a mysterious character! In the few flashbacks he has, you get a glance at Ryo- who is the exact same Ryo that appears in Digimon Tamers. Turns out Ryo and Ken appeared in TWO different videogames together: one where they were DNA evolution partners and the other happened after Ken fell ill with the dark spore and stayed at Gennai's house where he helped Ryo. Ryo and Moon Millenniumon, being 'yin and yang', then left that reality together, and Ken was the only one who never believed that he had died. He then of course he lost his memory to the spore. Love that guy. xD
And his Voice Actor single as the digimon Kaiser was totally PIMPING. xD Digimon Pimperor is more like it~
 
@joekido:
The story did not get dark again untie the Oikawa arc.
I hope that season five is not some sort of a commerical material. And I hope the story is good and adventerous.
I forget, who's Oikawa? I saw that whole 2nd season, though I only watched the dub.
I forget, who's Oikawa? I saw that whole 2nd season, though I only watched the dub.
the guy who was mummymon and arukenimon's boss in the real world. He wanted to go to the digital world or something. I have forgotten most of the specifics and i dont remember where he fits in with malomyotismon and the ending.
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Well I for one am excited about this new Season, just hope Beelzemon is in it.
Was Tamers really a rip off of EVA? scratches head
Jokido the second really captures why I didn't like 02. Excuse to make money, and severe plot holes. I did like Ken, and wormmon.
I did like tamers. I wish I had a Sub version of it. I watch it on my pc while I go to bed sometimes.
I loved 4. I know they didn't have digimon partners, but I loved the charicters and the story.
So season 5 is being made by a different company. shudders I will give it a chance though. That trailer didn't show much of anything to give an opinion, except nice animation.
One day, I just happened to be flipping channels and I came across the part where the Digimon Kaiser finally realized that he was wrong and was in hysterics.
That's around the time I started liking season 2 a lot. By the end I liked it about as much as season 1.
Digimon Season 1 and 2 were my favorites. Etemon and Myotismon rule. Hell Digimon was the first dub ever to have a holy reference…and is probably the only editied one. Cant remember? Think 666.
@gilrules2000:
the guy who was mummymon and arukenimon's boss in the real world. He wanted to go to the digital world or something. I have forgotten most of the specifics and i dont remember where he fits in with malomyotismon and the ending.
He was possessed by Myotismon in the year of 1999. After Venom Myotismon was defeated, the portal to the Digital World was ripped up in the sky. Oikawa was far from the battle site, he saw the Digital World and took out the picture of recent decreased friend Hiroki(who died in 1999) and cried about why Hiroki has to die and leave him alone. When the chosen children(Digidestine) were going up the sky, he saw bag them to take him with them but they were to far to hear and cried. Myotismon's digital ghost heard him and convice him to sell his soul to darkness and he'll him him get there. Oikawa was far to overwhalmed to understand, he was too driven by his desire and screamed "Alright! Alright! Just take me there! Take me out of this world!!" Thus Myotismon possessed him for three years. In the end, Oikawa discovered in a distorted world that he was possessed and he collapes. After the battle with Malo Myotismon Cody helped the dying Oikawa reached the opening to the Digital World. Oikawa fillfulled his dreams but he did not live to enjoy it. He met his digimon he meeted as a child (through the video game) and he died turning into bunch of butterflies and cleared darkness from the Digital World. After that the ending sucked, all DD grew up and got married and have kids and their children have digimon and the DD have corny jobs…God, Toei screwed up the ending.
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Season 1 was the best, because it was something new, ok the digimon looked like pokemon, but the story of season 1 was great. I loved Devimon, Etemon, my favorit of all the bad guys was Piedmon, the hell clown, because he ownd both Wargreymon and Metalgarugumon. It had a somewhat dissapointing ending with Apocalimon. I just loved Digimon season 1 i was obsest. And when i heard that there will be season 2 i was i seventh heaven.
the i watched season 2 and it was the biggest crap i had ever seen. The only things that saved it where Stingmon, Blackwargreymon. I hated all the new characters, they were so 2 dimensional. Davis "we have to stop them" "we can't loose because we win every fucking time" God at the end i just wanted Blackwargreymon to rip Davis, Cody and that girl to peaces and let the old gang come back.
Tamers was the savior it was with good characters and good plot. I loved the secret governmant porject. The Devas where all great i just loved the Monkey, the Rabbit and the Tiger was awesome. D-reaper was not that good of a final villian but Beelzemon was godlike, especialy with his bicke.
Frontier was a nother crash, it was worst the 2, because there was something important which was missing, which made digimon interesting, the DIGIMON.
i hope that the story will repeat itself goog-crap-good-carp-savior. If savier is a nother piece of trash, then that will be the end of digimon, until 20 years, when people are bord and idiot's and have nothing better to do then bring back old stuff.
@Duce:
Season 1 was the best, because it was something new, ok the digimon looked like pokemon, but the story of season 1 was great. I loved Devimon, Etemon, my favorit of all the bad guys was Piedmon, the hell clown, because he ownd both Wargreymon and Metalgarugumon. It had a somewhat dissapointing ending with Apocalimon. I just loved Digimon season 1 i was obsest. And when i heard that there will be season 2 i was i seventh heaven.
the i watched season 2 and it was the biggest crap i had ever seen. The only things that saved it where Stingmon, Blackwargreymon. I hated all the new characters, they were so 2 dimensional. Davis "we have to stop them" "we can't loose because we win every fucking time" God at the end i just wanted Blackwargreymon to rip Davis, Cody and that girl to peaces and let the old gang come back.
Tamers was the savior it was with good characters and good plot. I loved the secret governmant porject. The Devas where all great i just loved the Monkey, the Rabbit and the Tiger was awesome. D-reaper was not that good of a final villian but Beelzemon was godlike, especialy with his bicke.
Frontier was a nother crash, it was worst the 2, because there was something important which was missing, which made digimon interesting, the DIGIMON.
i hope that the story will repeat itself goog-crap-good-carp-savior. If savier is a nother piece of trash, then that will be the end of digimon, until 20 years, when people are bord and idiot's and have nothing better to do then bring back old stuff.
Except for the typos this post is exactly like what I was going to say. :happy:
I'll watch it when it comes out. Hell Frontier was good, so I'm eager to see what kind of twists this new one will have.
Last time I saw it was 5 years ago. It was on "Guilmon Comes Alive", then they dropped it because of some other crap. I loved the first two Adventures, looking back I'm not keen on 2. 1 will always stick in my mind as being one of the best anime series ever.
Geez, am I the only one that actually liked Tamers? It felt darker, which I actually liked about the series. :/
Naw, I loved Tamers, in fact it was my favorite season. Interesting to see the dislike for it here, over in the discussion thread we've been having about the new season on tz it seemed like most of the posters liked it as well.
Adventure is a classic, and 02 was ok. Frontier was so-so, and I really didn't like the concept.
I used to love Digimon when I was little, but even then I decided for myself it started to suck when they began to 'fuse' with their digimon. In other words, seasons 3+ are total crap in my opinion. I liked the old episodes. (and they were probably much better w/o dub too, but I've never seen them with subs) Great, now you've done it, I now have an urge to go download the first few episodes on youtube and rewatch them…
Personal op-ed:
Adventure: A very fun, very ambitious and very successful series. Sad to say, I too originally put this off as a "Pokemon knock-off" and even placed "Monster Rancher" above it…but then I actually watched it, especially during the Vandemon/Myotismon arc...and ate my words. The plot was much darker, the monsters were more original, and it all just seemed to come together in one great, insane plot! (heck, I even love the original File Island and Etemon stuff too once I finally watched and understood it) While there were some faults towards the end, I put them off since this was a good first effort. (plus...there was Lilymon :love: ...but I don't think you want to hear perverted fanboy gushing)
Adventure 02: I really don't like this series as much as I do the original. Sure there were several great things that were done here, such as the beginnings of their consistant study on the nature of what makes a person evil (such as their character studies of Ken and Oikawa), and Miyako is probably one of my favorite female characters in the whole series. But I don't like the sentai-like stuff they did, the way they threw away the original characters outside occasonal guidance, had several plot points that went nowhere, couldn't figure out who the enemy was, had one of my least favorite "final Digimon" in the Imperialdramon line and built up a great final arc if only to throw it away with the last 1.66 episodes! (while I couldn't stand their choice of bringing back Vandemon, I put up with it due to what happened to Oikawa and the "dream world" concept...but once everyone followed Daisuke's lead with the multiple evolution thing and we got to that last episode...the only good thing about that last episode was Oikawa/Iori's resolution, the rest was dumb)
Tamers: Now here was a series I loved. I loved mostly everything about this series: the setup to the partner relationships, the fact that every character (human and Digimon) was fighting due to their own beliefs, the more realistic technicalities of the Digital World and that all of the were both right and wrong, with the conflict coming about due to their own lack of knowledge and their own feelings towards the situation. (with the Tamers and Digimon being the guides between both sides, to the point where they integrated together to become a completely new being for the final form) And unlike a lot of people, I like the D-Reaper concept (a being made to delete truant data gaining sentinence and going out of control to delete everything) and only complain due to some of the fights and how some of it ended. (sadly, I really wish Ruki did a bit more in the last battle...but hey, we're lucky a female got her final form for once)
Frontier: Sadly, this series is probably my second-least favorite after 02, due to several factors: the over-usage of one-shots, the incompleteness of some of the villainy (like the Royal Knights of Lucemon), and how unequal the evolutions came in the second half where Takuya and Kouji were the only ones that mattered, with episodes created to focus on how "un-useless" the others were. (when in reality...) The "spirit evolution" concept was interesting...not the best or worst thing Digimon has come up with, but eventually returned to the biases previously seen in the Adventures series involving the "goggle boy" and "lone wolf" getting all the powers towards the end. The only really good thing I loved here was the contiual study of the nature of "good and evil", twisting concepts of "light and darkness" particularly with the battle of the twins Kouji and Kouichi, allowing us to realize that darkness is merely an element and not purely "evil" (though that was seen as well with Ken and Impmon) while intentions that can be seen as "pure and good" can be more ruthless. (first Cherubimon, then Lucemon) Furthermore, I guess that if they wanted to use the sentai concept, they really should have made the other four spirits human too, if only to cause further conflict later on.
With all that said, I don't know what to expect from Savers when it starts, but I am keeping my eye out for it.
Y'know, Negima WAS awesome…
For the first 18 volumes.
What do you guys think of the movies? I thought that they werent bad, for the most part.
I wish i could see the original version of the show now that i am older so i can find more of the connections and meaning that you guys seem to have found. I only got the dub when i was younger and i didnt even bother with frontier. After tamers, it seemed like they rehashed alot of it
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I really liked the 'tamers fusing with their digimon' concept, it seemed like the natural progression starting with digimon evolving in season one, digimon fusing with each other in season two, leading up to digimon fusing with their partners in season three.
Of course, you could make the argument that 'humans becoming digimon' is the last step in that progression, which I've already said I didn't like. The thing that turned me off about it was how it removed the partner/digimon relationship that was always the core of the series. Which left frontier feeling not quite like digimon.
@gilrules2000:
What do you guys think of the movies? I thought that they werent bad, for the most part.
For the movies, my favourites were Runaway Locomon, Revenge of Diaboromon, and X-Evolution. For the dub of Revenge of Diaboromon, thankfully, there was no mention of Willis.
willis? he wasnt in that film. I forget which on of the first three he is in but i dont think diaboromon is in it. I havent seen x-evolution yet. runs off to download
God, Toei screwed up the ending.
Seconded, seconded, SECONDED. >( At the very LEAST Sora should have married Tai. Davis had a very fitting job though.
I wish i could see the original version of the show now that i am older so i can find more of the connections and meaning that you guys seem to have found.
I have some of the 02 Raws. I don't think there's a good quality subber though. Well, there's always wikipedia….
He was in the third movie only, but for the dub, they fused the first three movies together and tied the second and third movies together by saying that Willis 'created' Diaboromon, and the virus that 'infected' Diaboromon and 'turned him evil' took over Lopmon.
i have seen all the japanese films along with the dub version, so i am still vaguely aware of the splicing that happened.
@Tokoro:
Adventure: A very fun, very ambitious and very successful series. Sad to say, I too originally put this off as a "Pokemon knock-off" and even placed "Monster Rancher" above it…but then I actually watched it, especially during the Vandemon/Myotismon arc...and ate my words. The plot was much darker, the monsters were more original, and it all just seemed to come together in one great, insane plot! (heck, I even love the original File Island and Etemon stuff too once I finally watched and understood it) While there were some faults towards the end, I put them off since this was a good first effort. (plus...there was Lilymon :love: ...but I don't think you want to hear perverted fanboy gushing)
I'm probably distorting your meaning, but Monster Rancher was a very good show, even though people never seemed to get into it; it was dubbed by, what, Ocean, had high quality animation, serious background story, character development (with possibly a Luffy-inspired protagonist in Genki), small degrees of tasteful(?) romance, themes of redeption, destiny, potential and causality, and most of all, a FITTING END! Sure, I wanted more out of the ending, but Genki had the adventure of his life and it was time to grow up, become a man, and stake his claim in the world. Dear gosh, it's hard to imagine MR could be passed off as a Pokemon clone!
Then again, MR even predated Digimon, and was original at that. Both series are highly underated, and there's no comparison between Season I of Digimon and Seasons I & II of Monster Rancher in the Pokemon franchise outside of Pokemon's very first season (which is magical, even today). I still remember being a giddy thirteen year old brat, oogling on Bulbagarden as a pseudo-spammer because I was obsessed with Pokemon. Five years later…not much has changed.
how did monster rancher end? the last i saw they found the phoenix but they needed the disk to bring it to life.
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It's been a while since I saw it, but I think it was the main monsters that were part of the group were each part of the Phoenix. It was like fate that they all got together and were searching for the Phoenix.
Eruh…spoiler? The details are a bit sparse, but I think I'm about 92% accurate here.
! From what I remember, the souls of the "great monsters" that were Moo and the Phoenix were seperated from one another to ensure that their climatic powers would never clash; while the Phoenix was a force of good, meant to combat the evil Moo born of the selfish desires of manking, it was still extremely powerful and destructive.
! Turns out destiny didn't leave Genki and his friends in the dirt; Hare, Suezo, Golem, Mocchi and Tiger were the sperate reincarnations of the Phoenix soul; they were brought together by causality. After a touching moment of whether or not these guys would give their lives to revive the Phoenix (essentially dying and never again seeing Holly and Genki again), they decided the fate of the world was better and charted off.
! The Pheonix was revived, and it battled Moo, but it wasn't powerful enough to win. Granity and the Dragon Knights (the bipedal flying dragons), as well as a host of monsters raced to defeat Moo. Genki, the dragons, and everyone present transferred their ki to the Phoenix, which completely battered Moo (and the Phoenix too). But, as the Phoenix fell to earth, its wing accidentally knocked Genki off one of the Dragon Knight's backs, effectively killing him; I think the last shots of Genki were of his body reverting back into a Mystery Disk (which was how Holly unlocked him from our world in the first place; a fitting way to go indeed), Holly crying, and the monsters mourning.
! Genki awakens in the real world, in an alley, with rain pouring on him. Could it a dream? He runs down the street, finds his house, runs upstairs and see his televison screen on. Genki becomes depressed, realizing that not only was his adventure over, but he'll never see his friends again; but, suddely, echos of them, not ghosts or anything but manifestations nonetheless, appear before him; Holly, Suezo, Tiger, Hare, and Golem. They assure Genki that he was indeed their friend, and that they will meet again someday in the future. As they vanish, Genki realizes how much he has grown. He sheds a tear, and the camera focuses out and fades to black.
I'm probably distorting your meaning, but Monster Rancher was a very good show, even though people never seemed to get into it; it was dubbed by, what, Ocean, had high quality animation, serious background story, character development (with possibly a Luffy-inspired protagonist in Genki), small degrees of tasteful(?) romance, themes of redeption, destiny, potential and causality, and most of all, a FITTING END! Sure, I wanted more out of the ending, but Genki had the adventure of his life and it was time to grow up, become a man, and stake his claim in the world. Dear gosh, it's hard to imagine MR could be passed off as a Pokemon clone!
I agree with everything you said there. MR was an awesome series. Though I need to point out a thing which I didn´t seem to find in your post and that´s that MR had lovely background music. I would kill to get the soundtrack of the series.
I think that Monster Rancher is very underated, but i love only the "first season", and the series should have ended with the battle between Phonix and Moo, but no they had to make a second season were it turned into a Pokemon/DB hybrid, they were traveling the lands and entering competitions. The only good thing was Mos. But that general, whos name i can't remember as the main villian, was the thing that destroyed the second season.
I'm probably distorting your meaning, but Monster Rancher was a very good show, even though people never seemed to get into it; it was dubbed by, what, Ocean, had high quality animation, serious background story, character development (with possibly a Luffy-inspired protagonist in Genki), small degrees of tasteful(?) romance, themes of redeption, destiny, potential and causality, and most of all, a FITTING END! Sure, I wanted more out of the ending, but Genki had the adventure of his life and it was time to grow up, become a man, and stake his claim in the world. Dear gosh, it's hard to imagine MR could be passed off as a Pokemon clone!
Then again, MR even predated Digimon, and was original at that. Both series are highly underated, and there's no comparison between Season I of Digimon and Seasons I & II of Monster Rancher in the Pokemon franchise outside of Pokemon's very first season (which is magical, even today). I still remember being a giddy thirteen year old brat, oogling on Bulbagarden as a pseudo-spammer because I was obsessed with Pokemon. Five years later…not much has changed.
I didn't say I hated Monster Rancher…what I said was that at that time, I sort of rated the series as such:
1. Pokemon (this was after the extremely fun and plot-filled first season, when I thought it couldn't go wrong...little did I see the dub screwing up and the filler-ville of Johto in my view..and trust me, I was in college at the time and was even collecting Japanese tapes of the Orange Island arc)
2. Monster Rancher (I never got to see too much of it, but what I did I liked. Sadly I couldn't keep up with it due to them always jumping around and never showing too much at a time...sadly I've still never seen the whole thing)
3. Digimon Adventure (This is the show I would not watch even if you paid me. In my mind, I thought Fox had sold out to the Pokemon crowd by putting on some monster show where the kids looked strange, the world was beyond weird, and the monsters just kept going back and forth between forms instead of evolving and staying that way. I mean, instead of little lizards that became big dragons, we had small dinosaurs that became dinosaurs with weird horns that came from nowhere...and small plants that became giant cactuses...with boxing gloves...[if only I knew then what the catcus became…:happy: ] It wasn't until I started watching and understanding the show that my opinion did a 180 degree turn)
When I think about it now, nothing will beat the first series.
I remember watching Monster Rancher weekday mornings before school. That show was the shit.
