Itagaki is sort of a mini-woli. But more tolerable.
Still enjoyed him getting his ass beat by his rival
One of the most satisfying moments in entire manga…f*cking glorious chapter. Itagaki has been much more tolerable since that.
Throughout this month, we will be testing new features (like search) so you may experience some hiccups from time to time. We'll try to not be too disruptive...
Hajime no Ippo
-
-
Nowadays, I just want to see Date Eiji remind Ippo of the baton pass.
That's one of my favorite moments of this manga and not one mention of that event in this retirement arc is annoying me.
-
Itagaki might be the only character I genuinely hate in this manga. Both as a boxer and person. So any winn for him is a loss for me.
I mean flawed as he is at least he doesn't toss his superiority in the face of his gym mates, while being a bully.
Nowadays, I just want to see Date Eiji remind Ippo of the baton pass.
That's one of my favorite moments of this manga and not one mention of that event in this retirement arc is annoying me.
With Ippo getting his shit pushed in, in his last two fights bringing that up would be rather cruel.
-
Fat Oda just cracks me up, feels pretty great to see all those old rivals again. And we got that reminder of the baton pass like you wanted. The scene is set for the big Ippo revival number and i'm genuinly satisfied with how it came about.
-
https://readms.net/r/hajime_no_ippo/1276/6235/2
The girl only going to the match he lost is a silly joke but it worked on me. Although it does mean she brings him bad luck. It's kind of fun to see how Ippo status changed from when we met him. Even if he doesn't realize it/ Ippo should try to get lucky just once. bamg that chick Ippo.
Also I don't remember Antonio. But I also mostly remember because it was so recent. Those match didn't excatly made a an impression. Date match was great.
Interesting to see Ippo reflect on his growth. He does it sometimes but it usually doesn't feel so defeatist and melancolic. I like the transition from regular eyes to fighting eyes.
–- Update From New Post Merge ---
https://readms.net/r/hajime_no_ippo/1277/6236/1 Sendo definitely has some Big D energy and makes things happen.
I really like the way it came around to Ippo not living up to the promise. It would have felt petty coming from Date but from that character and remembering the interraction I totally get it. But man that's a rough day. For someone like Ippo disapointing others is the worst.
Oda is defintely making up for all the diets he ever did. And they are not slowing down on the food jokes.
Ippo is a bowl of fresh air when it comes.
-
While you knew Ippo was going to come back, I'm kind of pissed that people keep slamming him about it. Like, c'mon people, he retired for the sake of his health, that isn't something you should complain to a guy about. Brain damage is no joke, even if it isn't fully confirmed more boxing means more chances of it happening.
-
While you knew Ippo was going to come back, I'm kind of pissed that people keep slamming him about it. Like, c'mon people, he retired for the sake of his health, that isn't something you should complain to a guy about. Brain damage is no joke, even if it isn't fully confirmed more boxing means more chances of it happening.
i'm actually more pissed if he comes back
-
i'm actually more pissed if he comes back
There isn't much doubt about that now is there. He'll start working on his left, he'll get a clean bill of health and then it is time for a revival. Wonder who is tune-up will be? Can he start on an international ranker based on his pedigree or will it be reclaiming a national/regional title to start with? Fun stuff to think about
-
While you knew Ippo was going to come back, I'm kind of pissed that people keep slamming him about it. Like, c'mon people, he retired for the sake of his health, that isn't something you should complain to a guy about. Brain damage is no joke, even if it isn't fully confirmed more boxing means more chances of it happening.
The complaining seems to come from people that don't know him personally and saw him as a symbol so it doesn't bother me. If it was the coach or Aoki it would be different.
-
Who is even active in Ippo's class? I can't recall anyone previously shown who could make a neat comeback opponent. Too bad really since i'd love to see a rematch that isn't a Sendo fight from the Ippster
-
Who is even active in Ippo's class? I can't recall anyone previously shown who could make a neat comeback opponent. Too bad really since i'd love to see a rematch that isn't a Sendo fight from the Ippster
Miyata? Let's be real. It's the only match Ippo cares about. It's just the people around him that want Martinez. Could be a nice to make both match important. One is for his retun and the other for his finish. Although my personal vision was always that Miyata and him would be the unification match or something similar. After Sendo and Miyata had a match to win the title. Clearly that's not happening.
I think that fisher that could punch non stop is still around? Vorg is too far and the judging is bias. Sawamura is retired. Date is retired. Mashiba is up. Most of the characters we would care for a rematch either move up or down a class. Heck even Miyata should move up. NAd Ippo can't move up to have an awesome fight with Mashiba or Miyata.
-
Vorg also went up to Jr. Lightweight, so even if they wanted to they're no longer in the same group.
And a lot of people around him say Miyata should move up a weight class because he apparently has big bones so it makes it harder to keep the weight off.
-
Sendo and Ippo team-up!
https://readms.net/r/hajime_no_ippo/1278/6269/1 -
Was that supposed to be Sendos grandma who guided him?
Or do all old ladies just have the same look
-
Was that supposed to be Sendos grandma who guided him?
Or do all old ladies just have the same look
Yes it was, do note the cat accompanying her.
-
I sometimes wish this series was about Sendo instead of Ippo:
https://readms.net/r/hajime_no_ippo/1279/6285/1That said, you know at this point (or have known for a long while now) that Ippo's just lying to himself. I believe he should stay retired if brain damage is a genuine risk, but we know that Ippo doesn't truly feel it. He's not truly dedicated to retirement.
-
I sometimes wish this series was about Sendo instead of Ippo:
https://readms.net/r/hajime_no_ippo/1279/6285/1 Sendo's strong approach would get tiresome fast I feel but he is definitely one of the better side chraters and I wouldn't mind seeing him more. I like how much he actually respects Ippo and try to build up his confidence. I think he might be the friedliest of Ippo's cast even including the gym. He respects him but he also just treat him like a pal.I will say one of the thing I like is that I don't think we came across someone that looked down on Ippo that shouldn't.
That said, you know at this point (or have known for a long while now) that Ippo's just lying to himself. I believe he should stay retired if brain damage is a genuine risk, but we know that Ippo doesn't truly feel it. He's not truly dedicated to retirement.
I think Ippo would be fine with lower tier fights but that he can't give up boxing all together. The biggest difference is that others see boxing as a goal or a skill to excel at where Ippo sees it as hobby slash passion he enjoys doing. So if he gets back in it sooner or later people will drag him back into the whole world champion race.
-
Oh undoubtedly people want him trying for champion again, but I think it was already pointed out that Ippo doesn't have the desire to be world champ. His goal from the beginning was "to be strong", and for him strong ≠ world champ. Him addressing that desire/goal is something to happen in the future.
-
I still think the only way for him to be satisfy is a fight with Miyata. Win or lost as long as they go a couple of round knowing he was a challenge for the boxer he respects the most will let him he's strong.
-
Poor Miyata. It's yaoi fanfiction in the making.
-
Poor Miyata. It's yaoi fanfiction in the making.
Miyata might have a poster of Ippo sweaty, muscular body in his short on his wall. I appreciate that they are both fully into it unlike most manga rivalry. But yeah so many things stand between a match that it's probably fanfiction.
Maybe the manga end between a spar of the 2. Meaningless to the world but the most important match to them. In the basement for maximum symmetry.
-
Isn't this whole break all about him finding the motivation to excel. I mean it could be a long run toward snuffing out his last hope at going forward to the world stage, but it sure feels like it is reving up and not down.
-
Isn't this whole break all about him finding the motivation to excel. I mean it could be a long run toward snuffing out his last hope at going forward to the world stage, but it sure feels like it is reving up and not down.
He will definitely go for the world champ. I mean him his last match was 2 steps away and his counterpart is close to his own shot at the titleAmost likely he wind against Goonzalez and lose to Martinez). There;'s not really really much challenge down there anymore so it's the only real direction for the mango if or when he gets back to boxing.
But in terms of what the character wants I have a hard time picturing having a more satisfying fight than Miyata or approach a world title the way a Mashiba or a Takamura does.
-
-
Mashiba is now OPBF Champion in the Lightweight class. Miyata could go up to Lightweight, but he's probably fine in Junior Lightweight because being on the thinner side helps keep him super fast. But the way his body is built in terms of bone and muscle he REALLY shouldn't be Featherweight.
-
I would love Miyata bitchslapping Itagaki before he moves up but he's not even worth it anymore. He's a random Japenese now.
-
Itagaki actually has to get a fight with Miyata, and it's not happening any time soon. But hey, maybe a quick spar.
-
Itagaki actually has to get a fight with Miyata, and it's not happening any time soon. But hey, maybe a quick spar.
The author better not do any Itagaki wanking and have him properly destroyed if they ever fought. I remember I thought it would be a thing because there when talking who is fastest the listing was 1 fighter with the faster hands in japon, one with faster feet in japon and Miyata had the better balance in japon. So it made sense Itagaki would fight all 3 (he fought and bested 2).
But at this point I don't why see it would happen. Miyata has nothing to prove in Japon anymore and with Ippo gone even the weight class is no longer of interesting. And as far as spars go Itagaki weird sharigan style seems way too specific and not especially helpful for preparation. I guess it could be Itagaki challenging him for some reason but the gym officially have bad blood with him and I don't see Miyata accepting an empty challenge.
It's a shame Sawamura is retired. It would have been interesting seeing those 2 fights. Miyata is not good at paying dirty and Sawamura was properly skilled in top of it and as dedicated to his counters as Miyata. Also I could use more Miyata and Taka hanging out.
-
Itagaki actually has to get a fight with Miyata, and it's not happening any time soon. But hey, maybe a quick spar.
Let Itagaki win match or two, I want him to get all high and mighty… You know the higher the fall...
There is a risk that Itagaki destroys Miyata, that could send story to unknown direction.
-
The moment Miyata lose to freaking Itagaki would be the moment I jump ship.
-
It's a shame Sawamura is retired. It would have been interesting seeing those 2 fights. Miyata is not good at paying dirty and Sawamura was properly skilled in top of it and as dedicated to his counters as Miyata.
Considering the fact Ippo fucked his shit up & Mashiba punched his ass out the ring, it woud've just been a wash.
Let Itagaki win match or two, I want him to get all high and mighty… You know the higher the fall...
I mean he's the only member of the Gym whose lost his debut fight which also led to Ippo taking the wind out of his sails by not sympathizing with him. And has never truly beaten Imai who took the featherweight title effectively falling into Aokimura territory.
I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting
3DS Friend Code 0044-2806-5284
-
Imai destroying Itagaki by implemanting a great plan is still my favorite match.
Considering the fact Ippo fucked his shit up & Mashiba punched his ass out the ring, it woud've just been a wash.
Everyone gets fucked up by Ippo. The man is a living weapon. And both fight were entertaining and draw out the best out of the fighters. Also remember how Mashiba was technically inferior to Miyata but fucked him up bad by playing dirty. And we know Miyata is predictable and nothing is worse when playing a counter expert.
My interest isn't Sawamura winning but how does Miyata deal with someone that exels in the same area as him. Like an Ippo vs Sendo, or a Takamura vs Hawks. Normally 2 counter people fighting could be boring but Sawamura's personality makes them an entertaining match up to me.
-
Everyone gets fucked up by Ippo
Cept Ozuma, Shimabukuro, Volg (technically), Date, Sisfa (who was already fucked up) and his last two opponents.
I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting
3DS Friend Code 0044-2806-5284
-
Cept Ozuma, Shimabukuro, Volg (technically), Date, Sisfa (who was already fucked up) and his last two opponents.
Didn't Jason get spinal damage courtesy of Ippo and that is why he had to retire
-
Shimakukuro was a weird guy. It was interesting to have Ippo fight Sisfa since I think it's the only fighter him and Miyata shared (aside of Mashiba of course) and man that guy was fucked up.
Seeing so many names makes me reminisce although the matches are blurry. I should give the begenning of the mangaAup the rookie king final) + matches a reread. I'm surprise Ippo didn't use the excuse of fighting Sawamura to spare with Miyata.
I really need to reread the Gonzalez match. He won and yet I can't remember anything of the match(except how it ended). He feels generic. Althoug it's still better than Ippo's second loss which I always forget exist and Can't remember the fighter or context at all.
–- Update From New Post Merge ---
Didn't Jason get spinal damage courtesy of Ippo and that is why he had to retire
Another one to Ippo's wall. That kid is a monster everyone should be afraid of. I don't think we hear as many retirements from Taka.
-
Didn't Jason get spinal damage courtesy of Ippo and that is why he had to retire
Pepperidge Farm Doesn't Remember.
But if true fuck.
-
Anyone else feel as though Ippo wont be returning to the ring.
I know most people are pretty convinced that hes going to go back on his promise to Kumi, but i personally dont get that impression from the way the story has been flowing since the Guevara fight. While ippo is still in great physical shape, his skills would have atrophied a lot since he officially retired, so even if he decided to start up again in the next chapter, itd take ages for him to redevelop his abilities and sense for boxing, and by that time his main rivals would have all leveled up as well.
Todays chapter spoke volumes for me. Ippo was implied to be very content with his current situation, and both Miyata and Sendo have accepted that and moved on.
-
Kumi is really starting to piss me off:
https://mangakakalot.com/chapter/read_hajime_no_ippo_manga/chapter_1280Seriously, bitch, leave the kids alone.
@Bloody:
Todays chapter spoke volumes for me. Ippo was implied to be very content with his current situation, and both Miyata and Sendo have accepted that and moved on.
I normally would too except for the sheer fact that he keeps wearing weights to build his muscles. He can't let it go.
-
Ippo's inability in a open goal is legendary. If Kumi showed to Ippo's room, dropped naked on his bed and took a sensual pose he'd probably just guess she was too hot to keep them on and had a contoursion while trying to sit.
I really like that letter. It's both I believe you can win and stop asking me to go back to boxing and be happy I'm becoming a trainer in more elegant way that I ever imagined Ippo able to do.
-
One reason I don't totally hate Kumi, is because she has to put up with that.
And I would perfectly be happy with Ippo becoming a trainer in full, except he keeps those damn weights on. If you're going to be a trainer, Ippo, let it go.
-
Someone should make a list of all the fights in ippo and their chapter(even the spars). I wouldn't mind rereading some but it's a pain to track.
Miyata vs Randy I quite enjoyed until the punch that should have put him down didn't and we had a punch faster than speed or something.
-
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YHRmPjfwwmvJ1BiiXxPuJue6Wae_QJb-oee1AV_VAsI/edit
Best I could find, goes up to ch1270.
For anyone wanting the original dynamite glove post for a dose of nostalgia :
https://web.archive.org/web/20160105100447/http://www.dynamiteglove.org/node/891
-
Brings a tear to your eye.
-
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YHRmPjfwwmvJ1BiiXxPuJue6Wae_QJb-oee1AV_VAsI/edit
Best I could find, goes up to ch1270.
For anyone wanting the original dynamite glove post for a dose of nostalgia :
https://web.archive.org/web/20160105100447/http://www.dynamiteglove.org/node/891
I didn't think it existed!!!!! Thanks man.
–- Update From New Post Merge ---
Those first chapters really makes me nostalgic. Ippo and Miyata should hang out a bit. Just to chill. They both put themselves in such high regards that they make every conversation way to high stake. Now that Ippo's out they can chill like the boxing fans they are.
--- Update From New Post Merge ---
Ippo's ability was insane in that spar. Also designs were so round and different.
It's weirdly fun to see Ippo first show boxing where he would just fall down sometimes because the shadow hit him. And seeing how he absorb information and Taka is here to help him grow. Not in joke manner but legitely with advices.
That's second spar is freaking great. When Ippo does that first dodge or straight counter Miyata you just want to cheer. The second down is just perfect. I remember not being sure about Ippo catching up so fast but damn it if it's not great. Every page make you want to see the next one and see each of them adapt to the other.
The training montage for the 3 months is also pretty great. Same for making the shadow piece by piece.
That win is so freaking embarassing for MIyata where he is clearly conscious and his body probably doesn't hurt but all he can do is be on his knees.
Miyata has a "come at me bro. You're nothing" pose after his first down on Mashiba. No wonder he got pissed. And that page is awesome. Also I don't ever got so pissed at aa fight not hapenning in the way the author intended it. I usually get frustatred in that I think it's bad writing but this one was the perfect the asshole took the fight you wanted.
Also It's why Miyata works but Itagaki doesn't. When Mashiba cheated he didn't waste time bitching about it in the middle of the match. He tried to fight back. He failed. But he tried. And he never made excuses for but instead tried to learn from the experience. Both might be arrogant but one of them doesn't consider they are entitled to victory.
I think my favorite Fuck you moment from Ippo is him destroying Mashiba's Elbow when he keeps up with his bullshit. The other Ippo moment are just Ippo being really good at boxing and powerful. But this one was just fuck you I know I'm destroying my hand and you expect me to back off but ibut I'm not letting you win you asshole.
That Trio of Mashiba-Ippo-Miyata was just great and made that tournament awesome. The asshole that will win no matter what, the underdog that won't quit, the prodigy with something to prove. It's crazy to think that now Ippo is trying to bang his siter and just sees him as an overprotective bother.
–- Update From New Post Merge ---
Jumping around is fun . 72-416-417 are great representation of how important the match is both Ippo and Miyata. Ippo is usally so passive and I think it's the only time we see Ippo straight not only challenge the coach but also actually state that he wants something and don't care what it cost him. It's bad enough the coach slap him and even when he leaves his statement is still I'll get stronger but I want Miyata. And as usual Miyata is just beggin to get a fight with him.
622 is also a good one where the coach is warning Ippo about the new generation and He's just like how about instead of spanking rookies I relinquished the belt and go for the fight I really one.
Volume 57 is great(513-522). It's basically Taka and Miyata together and it really feels like Taka looking out for his little brother. He gives him advice about not slacking off and goe to improve and they even fish together. And it's even better when you remember that Taka ask for it. It's probably because outside from him Miyata was the one with the most ambition off the club and he doesn't want to lose the other person that knows what it takes to make it. They can't be slackers like the rest.
One reason I don't totally hate Kumi, is because she has to put up with that.
She will probably be the one to propose at the end of the manga.
And I would perfectly be happy with Ippo becoming a trainer in full, except he keeps those damn weights on. If you're going to be a trainer, Ippo, let it go.
I say let the guy box for fun in his free time. It's not the worst hobby and it keeps him in shape. Just don't put him in a high stake pro match. The problem really is it would be hard for him to fight without the coach and everyone else being on his ass to get back in the official ring
Anyone remember why Randy's coach had a problem with Miyata?
-
I don't have time at the moment for a full re-read, but it does make me itch. Also, looking at that Myata vs Mashiba you linked it's interesting to see how much the art has evolved over the years.
-
-
If you meant his fat little manager he held a disproportionate grudge cause Miyata beat up Crocodile Dundee who was his mealticket (tho technically he fired him before that for mocking Miyata)
That's some massive grudge to hold for something like that. That's so incredebly petty but you gotta admire the dedication. He even bought a boxer and wasted a match just in studying him. That can't have been cheap or easy.
–- Update From New Post Merge ---
I don't have time at the moment for a full re-read, but it does make me itch. Also, looking at that Myata vs Mashiba you linked it's interesting to see how much the art has evolved over the years.
They went from rounds to muscular and the faces improved quite a bit too. The old coach is still the weirdest one for me.
-
That's some massive grudge to hold for something like that. That's so incredebly petty but you gotta admire the dedication. He even bought a boxer and wasted a match just in studying him. That can't have been cheap or easy.
I can't quite remember if he was beat up in the bathroom before or after he went all Miyata crazy? Cause that should count as a mitigating circumstance
