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    • Phlemingo
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      The hell? Don't tell me I was right. That the fruit is a Glass Logia, not paramecia. I mean, Sanji kicked Califa once pretty hard, but when she went down, she was unharmed, and Sanji was… bleeding. From cuts, it seems. Califa didn't even use Tekkai either...

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        Very nice chapter, thanks everyone for the raw, for picturing them and providing them !

        Poor, poor Sanji. He might reconsider his position towards women now ^^

        As for Chopper, he is not a weakling at all. He is just young and inexperienced. Well… used to be inexperienced.

        With this arc, everyone from the crew is building strength, guts and everything to beat CP9 and then move on against the World Gov.

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          a little off topic: Can chopper turn into a full human, like how other can turn into a full version of their animal?

          What is 19% of Avogadro's Constant?

          This is a slightly dated episode, but I don’t think that is the point. We had what some might call a script for this one and in the ended up becoming Who’s Line is It Anyway? And I was Drew Carey…

          http://www.ssaapodcast.com/

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            Hi folks,

            Long time lurker, first time poster. Since I had to create an account this week to get at the chapter, I might as well put it to good use.

            No full translation I'm afraid, as I don't have the time, but here's the gist of it, with what I believe to be key points in dialogue.

            (Cover is counted at pg 0)

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            Title: Mr. Chivalry
            (Cover story title: Escape Veto: Doesn't feel right)

            • Sanji & Kalifa's battle
            • pg 5: Sanji – "I've crushed you, just now! You've lost... hand over the key"
              _- pg 6: Kalifa – "Lets try something more interesting. If you don't hit back, there's no saving yourself..."
            • Nami, Chopper & Kumadori
            • pg 8: Kumadori goes on a long monologue: something about cherry blossoms and the other life.
            • pg 10: Nami shows Chopper that she's already swiped the key. It's #3
            • pg 12: Chopper -- "It's like he's made out of glass! He's glossy all over...and, really badly hurt!"
            • pg 13: Sanji -- "I don't care if I die... I will never kick a lady!"
            • Luffy & the kid
            • pg 16: Luffy is drowning while trying to cross the channel in a little wooden boat. The kid tells him that she's found a way to get to The Gate of Justice, and she can show him.
            • pg 17: She's explaining how she followed Lucchi and Spandam to the basement. Something funny is being said about Spandam, but I can't read the dialogues clearly here. Luffy does Gear 3
            • pg 18: Luffy -- "It's open.. alright... I'm going in!"
              "Eeeeeeeeh?!?! How'd you become chibi?!?!"

            Can't wait till HQ scans come out..._

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              Very cool. Thank you very much.

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                @Ashen:

                a little off topic: Can chopper turn into a full human, like how other can turn into a full version of their animal?

                choppers beast mode is his human form. lol chimney get's in everywhere.

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                    Poor Sanji even i feel bad for him. But he's an idiot as well. Choppa the man. And i wonder how Lucci and Spandam will react to chibi Luffy :laugh:

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                      Thanks for the Trans Yangman!

                      @Phlemingo:

                      The hell? Don't tell me I was right. That the fruit is a Glass Logia, not paramecia. I mean, Sanji kicked Califa once pretty hard, but when she went down, she was unharmed, and Sanji was… bleeding. From cuts, it seems. Califa didn't even use Tekkai either...

                      What do you mean? Page 5 ? Califa DOES use Tekkai ,thats the reason for Sanji's bledding ,but you might be right about Glass Logia ,but it wasn't confirmed yet ,since Sanji is still able to move it may also be jelly Logia .

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                        Chopper used his strongest attack twice on Kumadori (that's the attack he used against Gedatsu, right?). We're going to see new techs from him if Kumadori stands up again.

                        Sanji pretty much owned Kalifa in foot-to-foot combat. Seems like he will never ever hit a woman after all. I hope he still gets to fight another CP9 (maybe Fukurou, since I'd prefer Franky to fight Spandam rather than him).

                        As for Gear 3, we still don't know if it's this chibi form, or if the chibi form is the result of it…

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                          How can it be a glass Logia? it is probably just like Mr.1's ability. After all Glass is just sand to some extent isn't it?

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                            sanji must be really enjoying the fight
                            i would!
                            imagine his point of view everytime kalifa kicks him
                            having a nut or two cracked is a small price to pay…

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                              Hehe Sanji, he got owned.

                              Chibi form in my opinion isn't apart of Gear 3, probley some effect in the gate of justice that takes away your body muscle and in my opinion Luffy hasn't realised it.

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                                thanks!

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                                  sanji must be really enjoying the fight
                                  i would!
                                  imagine his point of view everytime kalifa kicks him
                                  having a nut or two cracked is a small price to pay…

                                  You never got your Eggs cracked ,did yaa?

                                  Sanji may be a Sexist and a Perv but he's certainly not a masochist…

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                                    @tekko:

                                    Thanks for the Trans Yangman!

                                    What do you mean? Page 5 ? Califa DOES use Tekkai ,thats the reason for Sanji's bledding ,but you might be right about Glass Logia ,but it wasn't confirmed yet ,since Sanji is still able to move it may also be jelly Logia .

                                    Uhh no, that's not tekkai. I can recognize the kanji. But anyway, I was wrong. Seems Sanji missed on page 5.

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                                      but, is there a new attack friom chopper?
                                      There will be a 2 versusu 2 fight nex time, i think?

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                                        Maybe his chibi form was brought about his reaction to water? When he was drowning that is. When he attempted Gear 3 that caused him to reduce in size. Thats what i think anyway.

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                                          Ooh another thing I noticed about the title, it's a "school of life", kinda like Zoro's "Bushido". This is a something"do", is it not? Another Sanji-Zoro parallel.

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                                            Oh since Chopper said Sanji so glossy and stuff, I remembered Donuts had those glaze stuff, maybe Kalifa had that type of fruit, though unlikely.

                                            ![](images/smilies/ipb/grin.png "Grin")Praise Oda for being our GOD![](images/smilies/ipb/grin.png "Grin")

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                                              Thanks for the chapter ocean, I appreciate it. Two weeks to wait for the next one! ;_;

                                              If you spoiler me, I will eat you with tater tots.

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                                                Woah. That glass thing is some freaky shit. Wonderful chapter though, glad to see some fighting. Kalifa kicks so much ass XD What a manipulator.

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                                                  What in the hell did Califa do to Sanji anyway? Turn him into Gumby?

                                                  Hey, it's Omake Luffy!

                                                  That's the first real signs of life we've seen out of Crocodile since he first popped back up, which might mean that he's getting back into high spirits. Was he expecting this all along or was he simply put out that he couldn't enjoy a good cigar?

                                                  Complicating things since 2009.

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                                                    well, it's time for sanji to wake up, if he cares to to his balls! what a pian, but he deserve it! she's going to kill him and he's still not able to hit her?

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                                                      I realize now that I should have probably pointed out that on pg 11, when Sanji fell through the roof, Chopper reacted with "What? A mannequine?"

                                                      Discuss. 😛

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                                                        now we know why oda has been drawing chibis a lot in his omake. so much for 3 absent-minded pages… he actually was using those pages to practice on the chibis! smart man, he is.

                                                        and sanji totally owned carifa... he just couldn't bring himself to actually harm her. he earned my respect for the rest of year.

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                                                          Great chapter, thanks.

                                                          I still can't see what kind of fruit Kalifa got. Sanji looks misshapen, like his chest grew smaller or something, and he can't be covered with glass as he couldn't move or breath or talk for that matter, nor can he be actual glass as he would have shatterd against the ground and would be dead. Damn it's driving me crazy, we've got hints but I can't figure out what are Kalifa's powers. And 2 weeks, maybe more, before we can find out…

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                                                            I'm really glad chopper's stepped up his game cos iv'e been hearing some people saying that he's not one of the main fighters. In my opinion chopper is capable of doing so much damage but he doesn't realise his potential until he's really worked up and pissed off. And I hope that we see a new technique from each of them after all each of the cp9 seems to be developing new techniques themself so would help. Plus nami looks like she's gonna kick kalifa black and blue alll over this is serious and I like the way all of the usually cowardice characters (nami,chopper and ussopp) are taking it seriously and ready to kick ass.

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                                                              @einthedog:

                                                              well, it's time for sanji to wake up, if he cares to to his balls! what a pian, but he deserve it! she's going to kill him and he's still not able to hit her?

                                                              that's exactly the point. him being unable to hurt a woman is part of one of his characters' main foundations. The moment he loses that his character is in the pits. I mean what would Sanji be without his behaviour towards women? two thirds of his dialogues would get cut. All that would remain is zoro baiting, talking about the All Blue and childhood stories from the north blue. Everything else is in some way coloured by his affection for women.
                                                              He has to stay the way he is. The sanji this chapter rocked in my eyes.

                                                              Gorlak wants you for the army

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                                                                Thanks a bunch for the raw ocean.

                                                                Cool chapter. The Sanji-Calipha fight was cool. Sanji pretty much seemed to own her a couple of times but didn´t get the job done because of his attitude towards women.

                                                                Chopper putting his (so far) most powerful attack on Kumadori on suprise was also cool. And that Kumadori stood up a couple of moments later is also cool because it shows that he can take some hits.

                                                                Gear 3rd was a totally unexpected surprise. I don´t know what to think of it really yet. At least it didn´t turn out to be what I was fearing all along, meaning Luffy will just look the same as always, just be even faster and stronger then in Gear 2nd. But that Luffy turns into a chibi is somehow a cool thing and it turns actually my whole look on the Gears in general. It doesn´t seem such a liniar power increase as for instance Super Saiyajin levels. If that really is the case then I´m not disappointed at all that there´s more then just one Gear. In fact then I wouldn´t mind even more gears because then they would really appear to be some sort of special moves/skills instead of SSJ power ups. Only time will tell.

                                                                As far as the title story is concerned. So it appears that Crocodile and Daz really aren´t escaping. I don´t know what the reason for that might be but I like it. With this very move Crocodile doesn´t lose his pimp status. He just remains in what is left of his cell and lights a cigar. That´s a pimp. It would be cool to know what is going through his head right now but so far I´m really satisfied that he didn´t chose to escape. This is even better then my hope that Goldenweek doesn´t free him and Daz.

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                                                                  It seems that chopper strenght uses a reverse law since he is an animal with the human zoan fruit.

                                                                  Chopper Reindeer Form–-> More Strongest but the worse form for a fight
                                                                  Chopper man form---> Best for fightning but less stronger.

                                                                  Thanks to the use of the Rumble Ball Chopper can get a form where he can fight correctly and with a similar strenght compared to his reindeer strenght, this is why the Rumble Ball is a good idea on Chopper.

                                                                  If Kaku, Jyabura or Lucci use the rumble ball they get less power since the transformation in animal improves their strenght and speed.

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                                                                    Well… I really hope Sanji gets back up and wins at least one fight, otherwise I will be very disappointed.

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                                                                      @e1n:

                                                                      now we know why oda has been drawing chibis a lot in his omake. so much for 3 absent-minded pages… he actually was using those pages to practice on the chibis! smart man, he is.

                                                                      and sanji totally owned carifa... he just couldn't bring himself to actually harm her. he earned my respect for the rest of year.

                                                                      No way , I must say I back up Selphish on this:
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                                                                      Not fighting someone on the basis of their sex is sexist, just as not fighting someone based on the basis of their race is racist.I find the fact that women need to be handled "nicer" in battles offensive; women should be seen as the same threat as a male opponent and be treated as a male opponent - especially in One Piece, where a women can easily be stronger than a male.

                                                                      That said, I do not condone abuse.

                                                                      As someone pointed out earlier, Robin should have been the motivation for defeating Califa.She's in the most danger at the moment. If incapacitating Califa meant saving Robin, then the choise should have beeb easy.

                                                                      I'm a little bit disappointed of Sanji he should have found a way to defeat Califa ,I mean he's supposed to actually be smarter than that…

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                                                                        I think we finally got a duel…. i think it's already settled for this two....

                                                                        Nami vs. Calipha
                                                                        Chopper vs. Kumadori

                                                                        As I can c in the eyes of Nami and Calipha, I think they're about to explode....

                                                                        It's just not like the Chopper i've known----totally BADAZZZZ

                                                                        I really am not sure what's Sanji's going to do now....

                                                                        either....

                                                                        he'll rest for a while
                                                                        help Chopper and Nami
                                                                        Help Usopp and Zorro

                                                                        thx ODA.... as Ocean said!

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                                                                          Sanji is more powerful than that and I believe that his skill level is at the same level of Kaku and Jyabura. His fight against Calipha is difficult for him because Calipha is a woman, if Sanji fights against Kumadori instead of Kalipha Kumadori could be out now.

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                                                                            I'm a little bit disappointed of Sanji he should have found a way to defeat Califa ,I mean he's supposed to actually be smarter than that…

                                                                            i like the fact that sanji has an inherent flaw that he can't get rid of, and i'm sure some people do too. sanji suddenly breaking his principles is just so out of character, and that would ruin his character entirely.

                                                                            plus, it's not like he's completely not fighting her. the first few pages were so painful to look at. he KNOWS he can own her. he delivered two massive blows (oh the sexual innuendos XD) to her, one just got stopped at the very last moment and the other one was purposely delivered to miss her by just a slight bit. he wanted to show her that he can defeat her easy, but he just couldn't because that would be against his principles.

                                                                            and his line "even if i die, i will not harm a woman." goes up there with luffy's "even if i die, i will keep pursuing my dream" and zoro's "even if i die, i will become the world's strongest swordsman."

                                                                            /me takes off hatS to sanji.

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                                                                              Perhaps Califa has the butterfly zoan. And what we see Sanji encased in is perhaps the beginning stages of a butterfly cocoon, which is the time when they're really shiny.

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                                                                                excellent chapter, cheers ocean, oda, and Mr/Ms 8…

                                                                                I'm with e1n on Sanji, he can take her, you can almost see the struggle painted on his face. He needs to defeat her to rescue Robin but at the same time his code of honour as it were means he won't hit her. Much respect to Sanji for standing behind his morals.

                                                                                Seeing Chopper taking on Kumadori was a surprise, hadn;t expected him to be that capable.

                                                                                Luffy turning up half drowned was classic and gear 3 doesn;t seem to have been overkill either.

                                                                                Overall a great chapter, now we get Nami v Calipha to look forward to as well 😄

                                                                                hrm how quick can a fortnight pass 😞

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                                                                                  @e1n:

                                                                                  i like the fact that sanji has an inherent flaw that he can't get rid of, and i'm sure some people do too. sanji suddenly breaking his principles is just so out of character, and that would ruin his character entirely.

                                                                                  plus, it's not like he's completely not fighting her. the first few pages were so painful to look at. he KNOWS he can own her. he delivered two massive blows (oh the sexual innuendos XD) to her, one just got stopped at the very last moment and the other one was purposely delivered to miss her by just a slight bit. he wanted to show her that he can defeat her easy, but he just couldn't because that would be against his principles.

                                                                                  and his line "even if i die, i will not harm a woman." goes up there with luffy's "even if i die, i will keep pursuing my dream" and zoro's "even if i die, i will become the world's strongest swordsman."

                                                                                  /me takes off hatS to sanji.

                                                                                  But by not harming Califa he IS actually harming Robin ,I also woulndt like it if Sanji would hit Califa ,but I would have found it way Better if he would have found a way to incapacitate Califa without hitting her i.e. ruining his Character (I mean part of his Character is the fact that he is a Tactician ,see arabasta&mister Prince),by getting beatet just like that he appears as an Idiot and even as a Masochist.

                                                                                  I recognise you see it different and I respect that ,but that's the way it looks for me.

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                                                                                    is kumadori particularly weak? is chopper super strong? did he forget to do tekkai? or is kumadori simply not out of order?

                                                                                    ah, a great nami vs calipha would be the best.

                                                                                    all these messed up fights are pretty sweet.

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                                                                                      is kumadori particularly weak? is chopper super strong? did he forget to do tekkai? or is kumadori simply not out of order?

                                                                                      From what it looks like to me, it seems that Kumadori didn´t do Tekkai. He´s actually quite strong IMO if he can take Choppers so far strongest known attack and stand up again.

                                                                                      What I´m curious about is what those white thingies on Sanji´s hair, arms and torso is on page 11. :molly:

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                                                                                        What I´m curious about is what those white thingies on Sanji´s hair, arms and torso is on page 11. :molly:

                                                                                        It has been stated that it's the fact that he "looks like Glas"

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                                                                                          What I´m curious about is what those white thingies on Sanji´s hair, arms and torso is on page 11. :molly:

                                                                                          I think Calipha's devilfruit has something to do with that…really looks shiny though...

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                                                                                            @Ivotas:

                                                                                            What I´m curious about is what those white thingies on Sanji´s hair, arms and torso is on page 11. :molly:

                                                                                            If Califa's DF is related to glass, then that's light relfecting.

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                                                                                              Glas eh? Well that makes me even more wonder how that DF ability works if it truly is a glas ability.

                                                                                              Thanks for the responses guys. It really makes sense now looking at it as a shining effect.

                                                                                              But the question is really what did she do to him?

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                                                                                                What I'been wondering since I read the Chapter is how Jimbei and Cat managed to save Luffy (Page 16)? He is like in the mittle of the Lake (on a Whirlpool!) and they 're just Kids ?

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                                                                                                  Yeh, I agree with e1n, I think people were way too harsh on him in the spoiler thread. Seeing the full chapter now, you can see he wasn't just taking it with a goofy love-struck face and it wasn't like he was out classed from the start, his sort of "I'm not fucking around" shot on pg. 5 was a clear indicator of that. Though Calipha's Shigan/Rankyaku follow up was pretty damn devastating.

                                                                                                  Personally, I would think the internal struggle for Sanji would be even more excruciating & painful then the real fight. But yeh, the dude's got unwavering principles, which he'd be willing to lose his life over to keep intact. It might sound stupid to some, but I've got nothing but respect for that.

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                                                                                                    What I'been wondering since I read the Chapter is how Jimbei and Cat managed to save Luffy (Page 16)? He is like in the mittle of the Lake (on a Whirlpool!) and they 're just Kids ?

                                                                                                    They probably tossed a rope or something at him and pulled him out. True it all happens out of a sudden from one panel to the next one without something in between, but sometimes such jumps have to be made in order to get the more important stuff in the chapter. I´m sure the anime will fill this part adecuately.

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                                                                                                      Who was in the boat? Spandam and Lucchi went into an undergroud tunnel so who was in the ferry boat?

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                                                                                                        Who was in the boat? Spandam and Lucchi went into an undergroud tunnel so who was in the ferry boat?

                                                                                                        From what I can tell it appears not to be a boat after all but a docking station. It makes sense actually because the tunnel has to get somewhere. If it is the boat then the tunnel would end in the ocean.

                                                                                                        The boat is probably located at the docking station.

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