I recall that one of the rules the Shichibukai have to follow by the WG is the abandonment of their respective crew.
Well can you give any proof ?
I recall that one of the rules the Shichibukai have to follow by the WG is the abandonment of their respective crew.
Well can you give any proof ?
I recall that one of the rules the Shichibukai have to follow by the WG is the abandonment of their respective crew.
No it´s not. That´s one of those rumors that goes around the net but it was never ever said in the manga.
As far as I can tell, the reasons why most people think that a Shichibukai has to give up his crew is the fact that both Jimbei and Doflamingo both seem to have let their subordinates (Arlong and Bellamy) go and do whatever they want when they became Shichibukai. And then there is the fact that Mihawk travels alone (although he might just be a solitary character to begin with).
It might be that a Shichibukai gives up his old crew and then has the option of having a new crew provided for him by the WG. In this way, he will not only be able to perform his pirating duties, but it also serves to keep the WG updated on his activites and to make sure that they do not violate their agreement.
There is, of course, no real evidence to support this, and the fact that both Crocodile and Mihawk do not have traditional crews also seems to disproves this.
There is a pretty good chance that Shichibukais don't have to leave their
crew behind. Otherwise L'Affite & Co. would be pretty screwed when
their captain (Blackbeard) becomes one since they officially labeled themselves
as a crew.
We do not need one. Oda seperated forces of the government and pirates into seperate categories; Mihawk and the other Shichibukai are on the government's side, and Shanks is on the pirate's side.
Um. That's not hard proof. I truely doubt the WG would turn away pirates who wanted to go legit; it's more likely Jimbei and de Flamingo's crews didn't want to give up the pirate life.
Either way, there's no way in hell the World Government would fear Shanks and have him on their radar if he worked for them. And they certainly wouldn't let him off the hook if he was wandering around making plans with Whitebeard. They'd kick his ass out like Crocodile.
Either way, there's no way in hell the World Government would fear Shanks and have him on their radar if he worked for them. And they certainly wouldn't let him off the hook if he was wandering around making plans with Whitebeard. They'd kick his ass out like Crocodile.
First of all who the hell said that the World Government Fears Shanks. If you guys would read this little link I have here it sounds like that Shanks is a Shichibukai member or is involved with the government somehow. The Government never mentions anything about fearing Shanks or neither does it say in the Manga or anime that Shnaks and Whitebeard are trying to form an aliance against the government. all people are doing is speculating or wishful thinking.
Also it was never stated to be a Shichibukai member you have to leave your crews, that was never said.
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Actually this aspect of being a Shichibukai having to abadon your crew has been mentioned more than once, specially when it comes to arlong x jinbei but i can't guarantee it was stated by Oda.
The gorousei have stated more than once that the red-hair meeting the white-mustache is troublesome.
And somewhate offtopic: anyone felt that Odas drawing in this Kaku x Zoro fight were specially awesome? I
m drooling over page 11 for a minutes now.
The gorousei have stated more than once that the red-hair meeting the white-mustache is troublesome.
they only stated it once and said they will observe the situation. They mentioned nothing of fearing this.
I'm curious in this chapter how did zoro gain so much power since the mansion. Seems a little dbzish to me
still an awesome chapter tho
I'm curious in this chapter how did zoro gain so much power since the mansion. Seems a little dbzish to me
still an awesome chapter tho
Because he is out for revenge and promised he'd pay back Kaku for beating him at Gally-la. People who are out for some revenge seem to be stronger and fighting for all he has..remember "even if you die, you must win", line shows he's giving it all he has..
I'm curious in this chapter how did zoro gain so much power since the mansion. Seems a little dbzish to me
still an awesome chapter tho
and your point is? what is the problem with dragonball/DBZ? These two Manag's changed the Fighting Genre for all action cartoons. Without Akira Toriyama's Masterpiecies you would not have One Piece, Naruto, Yu Yu Hakusho a Hadokuen from Street Fighter etc. You would have basically nothing.Please even if DBZ is repetitive, that is what made it a world wide known anime and makes it one of the best ever made.
Back to Zoro's Strength, Getting stronger can come from fighting which will give you the ultimate aspect of fighting and that is experience. Zoro is telling the truth that he has gotten stronger because fighting can make a person mentally and skillfully stronger. Hell great example is Luffy. Yes this can be from DBZ but it is only the truth on hgetting stronger.
I'm curious in this chapter how did zoro gain so much power since the mansion. Seems a little dbzish to me
I'm really not sure that he's gained all that much strength since they last fought CP9 so much as he's regained his focus after being somewhat distracted by the whole Robin situation. Same for Luffy.
You have to wonder how well Kaku would have fared against Zoro had he not been able to drill him with Shigan at point blank range.
they only stated it once and said they will observe the situation. They mentioned nothing of fearing this.
then i`m sorry. my memory ain't that good.
then i`m sorry. my memory ain't that good.
no it is my fault i should have told you that i posted a link a couple of posts ago.
I am sorry.:ohmy:
And somewhate offtopic: anyone felt that Oda
s drawing in this Kaku x Zoro fight were specially awesome? I
m drooling over page 11 for a minutes now.
Haha, trust me, I don't think you're the off-topic one here.
Me too; I marvel at how Oda managed to squeeze AWESOME action scenes into only several pages, while keeping everything clear and well-drawn. I mean, he only needs one panel to show Rankyaku Confusion.
Compared to Naruto…. (One fireball one chapter XDDD)
What I'm really interested in seeing is Calipha's techniques, which I almost hope will be next chapter. Can you Rankyaku with a whip?
I say "almost" because I wanna see Usopp/Jyabura and Zoro?Kakuraffe.
PS: I vote we all agree to refer to Kaku's beast man mode as the Kakuraffe, then in a month or two use it to confuse the hell out of a new member.
I'm curious in this chapter how did zoro gain so much power since the mansion. Seems a little dbzish to me
still an awesome chapter tho[/QUOTE
I atribute it to Morale. When they beveived Robin had betrayed them the Strawhats were demoralized and that affected their fighting. Now that they know the truth thier morale is up.
I'm curious in this chapter how did zoro gain so much power since the mansion. Seems a little dbzish to me
still an awesome chapter tho
He hasn't gained in strength. HE was most likely powerfull enough to tame CP9 back at the mansion itself. He just didnt have the focus or the drive. He faced off very evenly with Kaku, just as he did in this chapter, except that in the mansion, he was distracted by Robin and turned away for a few seconds.
I mean, the guy is already keeping up with Soru =O.
There is a pretty good chance that Shichibukais don't have to leave their
crew behind. Otherwise L'Affite & Co. would be pretty screwed when
their captain (Blackbeard) becomes one since they officially labeled themselves
as a crew.
I always wondered why Blackbeard's crew has been helping him to become a Shichibukai so hard if he'll just leave them when he becomes a Shichibukai. I agree that this is probably a sign that Shichibukai don't have to leave their crew.
Or that Blackbeard would simply ignore it.
Very true. It doesn't seem like the WG has much control over the Shichibukai anyways….
I mean, it looks like Bellamy was still loyal to Doflamingo, even if not working directly under him any more… to me, that kind of gives off the impression that Doflamingo had to give up his crew, but still maintains (loose) control over them.
I'd say it can be argued that they do or do not have to give up their crews, but it's not a wise move to ignore either possiblity.
I don't really remember. It was a long time ago and I was searching through various search engines but I think it's a screencap. I still have it saved in Photobucket if you want it though.
It's the pic I wanted actually, and thanks for it :happy:
Now wait a minute- what about Crocodile? What happened to his pirate crew? Also did Hawk Eyes have a pirate crew?
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Now wait a minute- what about Crocodile? What happened to his pirate crew?
It's never been said, but knowing Crocodile, I wouldn't be shocked if he turned them in to the World Government for their bounties, provided that he had a crew to begin with.
Also did Hawk Eyes have a pirate crew?
Mihawk always struck me as a loner, so who can say?
If he was part of a crew, then I suspect that he was in a similar position as Zoro; part of a crew, but not the captain as that would have been too much trouble for his tastes. His role as a pirate was based around his attainment of the rank of Master Swordsman and not so much for the fame or glory. If so, he more or less took the job out of boredom having already surpassed everyone else.
Well based off what you wrote about Hawk Eyes would it be safe to assume….nah forget it.
It's never been said, but knowing Crocodile, I wouldn't be shocked if he turned them in to the World Government for their bounties, provided that he had a crew to begin with.
Mihawk always struck me as a loner, so who can say?
If he was part of a crew, then I suspect that he was in a similar position as Zoro; part of a crew, but not the captain as that would have been too much trouble for his tastes. His role as a pirate was based around his attainment of the rank of Master Swordsman and not so much for the fame or glory. If so, he more or less took the job out of boredom having already surpassed everyone else.
How old is Hawkeye? It occurs to me it might not be impossible for him to have been on GR crew….not likely, I suppose, but possible.
Greetings all, this is my first post (though I've been on the forums for quite a while).
I don't know if this has been mentioned yet (I didn't see it), concerning the potential Zoro-Sogeking teamup against Kaku and Jyabura.
Back in chapter 383, when the team realises Sogeking wasn't on the King Bull, Zoro says (Null translation): "As we travelled to each island, we all became stronger, even if we haven't noticed it. With every island he's visited, he too has overcome death. We don't have anyone in our group who'd die so easily!!"
I think this may have been some minor foreshadowing for the possible team-up, especially considering Sogeking's statement that he'd fight Jyabura for Robin even when confronted by an enormous (if shoulderly-disjointed) wolfman. I think it's time Usopp started becoming a brave warrior of the sea, and if he fights together with Zoro against teh two strongest in CP9 (perhaps even bailing Zoro out of life-or-death situations with his gadgets), it will give him the confidence boost he needs. I can also foresee the mask coming off during the fight and Usopp getting all surprised when he realises Zoro knew it was him all along, and Zoro telling him to fight because "he's one of the crew" as a morale boost during some crucial moment.
I also foresee the potential 'rivalry' between Jyabura and Kaku depicted in earlier chapters getting in the way of their possible team-work, which will leave openings for the Strawhats to exploit.
I'd have liked Sogeking/Usopp to have defeated Jyabura alone, however honestly i don't think that was very plausible, or even possible, given his current level of strength (especially in close-quarters) - however the above may be more preferable for character development and cementing Usopp's rejoining.
i just wanted to randomly add that i bought a giraffe ashtray just before 401 was out and that i want califa's fruit to be elephant-type.
If you can believe the color spread, looked at Usopp's body, he has six packs for abs, he must have been working out or that the full time job of repairing Merry have given him muscles. Now what he need is mental strength and his halfway there to becoming a brave sea warrior.
He'd had six pecs for ages.
i just wanted to randomly add that i bought a giraffe ashtray just before 401 was out and that i want califa's fruit to be elephant-type.
Spandams sword already has an elephant fruit. While there could be an asian and african elephant fruit models, I'd rather see something different.
In a way your buying of an elephant ashtray ( I assume ) has already won since Funkfried was a sword that ate the elephant fruit.
I always wondered why Blackbeard's crew has been helping him to become a Shichibukai so hard if he'll just leave them when he becomes a Shichibukai. I agree that this is probably a sign that Shichibukai don't have to leave their crew.
i think that if they do become shichibukai and their crew promises to follow him and obey the same rules as he i think they would be pardonde as well and allowed to work with him.
I don't like that Kaku became that big… He was much cooler before, well, I hope he looks cool in beast/human form.
btw, Jabura is my favoruite by far in CP9, he's so damn cool =P
For any of you who care, I'm done with my scanlation.
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Ah nice, I prefer scanlation over translation text, definitly. Thanks man, I really care. =P
Well, I´m suprised why Sanji got Kalifa… ok it is his greatest weakness but she is still the weakest member and if he will have big troubles with her a lot of will think that he is weak.
There is already a discussion about it if he is strong as Zoro but the difference between their opponents is to big this time. Zoro is fighting the second-stongest CP9er so it would be just fair when Sanji get Jabura.
Ok I see the point that Lysop have to beat a strong opponent but Jabura is still to big for him. Any of the CP9 is strong as hell but could you see what it will look like when Sanji have big problems with Kalifa and Lysop with Jabura. There is a difference between those two like day and night and for many it will maybe show Lysop is really strong but on the other side Sanji is weak when he have big troubles with her
I hope that Kalifa got a really powerful DF or Sanji will play a little with her that it seemed that he is defintly stronger than her...
For any of you who care, I'm done with my scanlation.
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This is the first time I´ve checked your scanslations. I like them. Thanks and keep it up. :happy:
@3-Swords-Style:
Well, I´m suprised why Sanji got Kalifa… ok it is his greatest weakness but she is still the weakest member and if he will have big troubles with her a lot of will think that he is weak.
I completely understand your concern but just think about the unknown factor which is her Devil Fruit. The second strongest CP9 member got a weird fruit so it would actually not too unlikely that the weakest member gets a kick ass DF ability.
I´m not going to bet anything on what the fruit might be because the friggin awesome giraffe was too big a surprise for me. So I´m just giving an example. Imagine Califa getting a logia ability. Even if she is the weakest one of CP9 in terms of Doriki which measures her athletics such an ability would certainly take her in the upper front. I mean a Rokoshiki user with a logia ability would easily surpass the limits of Doriki. Also think that so far only Luffy was able to defeat logia users so if Califa would be one then Sanji would not only grow by surpassing his blocade to hit a female but he would also be the first of Luffy´s crewmates to defeat a logia user. That is some heavy shit IMO.
Of course this is all hypothetical. I´m just trying to explain how much a the DF ability can turn Califa´s status around. Doesn´t have to be a logia. A Paramecia would also work because unlike for logia and zoan types paramecia fruits can be everything. With such a brilliant guy as Oda sky´s the limit so we should see what she got before we pass judgement that she´s the weakest of the bunch.
I don't think Kalipha is the weakest CP9. She is the lowest in Douriki, yes, but she also get a weapon (that Thorn Whip thing) and now has a mysterious Devil Fruit that has chances of being powerful. So far, judging her actions in the Galley-la building, I think her abilities with the whip more than compensate the "low" Douriki.
And, even if she were weak, how can people doubt Sanji's strenght? He proved his strength many times already. People are too quick to judge things just by looking into weird numbers (Douriki) that we can't understand.
Yes they are to quick and than we will see many of new threads like "is Lysop stronger than Sanji?":sad:
It would kick ass when she gots a logia fruit but I doubt it and when we are talking about weapons. The fat guy who is facing Nami and Kaku has a weapon too. I hope Oda plans something big to him and he will get the spotlight this time instead of Zoro. In Skypia he didn´t play any role and he don´t have any serious battle against one of the top villians so this time it is his turn.
Anybody here thinks that Califa will join the crew? 'cause I do :P I just dont think Sanji will leave a beat up woman lying on the floor. It could also be the reason why they were paired up, so Sanji won't abandon her and bring her along. So I'm guessing she and a shipwright (maybe Franky) will join and she might be able to move the story forward just like Robin did… I don't know. She just doesn't seem like a bad person...yet O.o
Edit: I got the idea of her joining from something Sanji said awhile back that he'll find the hottest babe around and Luffy said they needed a big guy 5 meters tall something like that. So maybe 2 people will join...shrugs
I completely understand your concern but just think about the unknown factor which is her Devil Fruit. The second strongest CP9 member got a weird fruit so it would actually not too unlikely that the weakest member gets a kick ass DF ability.
I´m thinking about something like a 'flower-fruit' for Califa, it would perfectly fit in her fighting style and also in the 'cp9 agents get jungle-dfs' theorie.
But would a 'flower-fruit' be a logia-df ?
But at all, this whole theorie is 'sexual harassment' :happy:
@3-Swords-Style:
Yes they are to quick and than we will see many of new threads like "is Lysop stronger than Sanji?":sad:
Such a thread would be a braindead idea because Usopp´s fighting style is sniping. He can at no point be stroner then Sanji. Each of them would beat the other in their field (Usopp would win on a long range, Sanji in cloth combat) but you can´t make a solid argument about strenght levels for fighting styles that different. It´s like saying a top notch chess player is stronger then a top notch basketball player or vice versa.
I´m thinking about something like a 'flower-fruit' for Califa, it would perfectly fit in her fighting style and also in the 'cp9 agents get jungle-dfs' theorie.
But would a 'flower-fruit' be a logia-df ?
But isn´t Robin´s fruit a flower fruit actually? But a plant paramecia could be cool. If she could control plant growth (not body part growth) anywhere then it could be a ability with a semi-logia character just like Mr. 3´s wax ability. Not to mention that she could create countless biologic thorn whips.
But at all, this whole theorie is 'sexual harassment' :happy:
I can already see her yelling "sexual harassment" at Sanji because he wouldn´t like to fight her at first. :happy:
But isn´t Robin´s fruit a flower fruit actually? But a plant paramecia could be cool. If she could control plant growth (not body part growth) anywhere then it could be a ability with a semi-logia character just like Mr. 3´s wax ability. Not to mention that she could create countless biologic thorn whips.
Yeah that are just my thoughts Ivotas :biggrin:
And hasnt got Nico Robin the 'flora-flora-fruit', not the 'flower-fruit' ? It´s only called 'flora-flora-fruit', ´cause she can make her hands and legs etc. grow like flowers … Or am I wrong :wacko:
And hasnt got Nico Robin the 'flora-flora-fruit', not the 'flower-fruit' ? It´s only called 'flora-flora-fruit', ´cause she can make her hands and legs etc. grow like flowers … Or am I wrong :wacko:
Only the german dub refered to her fruit as Flora Flora fruit. In the original verions however she ate the Hana Hana no Mi. And hana means flower.
Robin ate the 'hana hana no mi.' Hana means flower, and could be translated as flower, flora, bloom, etc.
But I do like Ivotas' idea, maybe 'tsuru tsuru no mi?' (tsuru = vine(I think))
Only the german dub refered to her fruit as Flora Flora fruit. In the original verions however she ate the Hana Hana no Mi. And hana means flower.
Oh … damnit :neutral:
Yes you´re migth be right, but my idea about such type of devilfruit became clear for the others, thank you Ivotas.
I always though that the name Hana Hana no Mi was made by someone close to Robin in order to give a pretty name to her ability, so that she could accept it easier. I was even expecting it to be Sauro, Olvia or Clover, when he would see the power for the first time ("It is a cool ability! It seems like you are blooming everywhere, like a flower! How do you call it? Hana Hana no Mi?"). Of course, this never happened, so this theory is just wrong, probably.
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Well, about Kalipha... I have the feeling that Sanji will actually "dance" with her, treating her in the most gentle manner, and at the same time avoiding her attacks. He will first neutralize her Thorn Whip, then her Rokushiki, and finally she will be forced to use her devil fruit. I don't know what power she has, so this is hard to predict, but I picture her exhausted, incapacitated or unconscious at the end of the fight, and then Sanji will take her in her arms, put her in her bed and say "good night", leaving the room like a perfect gentleman.
Oh, and please, it is Usopp, not Lyasop. I may be behaving like a child in this matter, but you calling him this way is pretty much angering me. Sorry, but please, call him Usopp.
Oh, and please, it is Usopp, not Lyasop. I may be behaving like a child in this matter, but you calling him this way is pretty much angering me. Sorry, but please, call him Usopp.
With all due respect you´re sometimes using brazilian namings here too. Usopp is called Lysop over here in Germany. Personally I don´t go by that name and prefer the original names too but seeing that you use regional namings too I don´t think you should be so rash on getting angry if someone does the same. :happy:
I'm sorry. Didn't know that.
But I do try to use the more common names here. In Brazil Luffy is Ruffy, for instance. I call him Luffy him, just like I stopped calling Hatchi as "Hati". Sometimes I just get confused about how do you call them.
And, like I said, I could be acting like a child by getting angry. Sorry about that.