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      @LC:

      -Lapins. K-F translated as "Lapahn". While I think that "Lapahn" sounds cooler, "Lapins" probably works as well. When you think "Lapin", you think of something petit. And ironically, Lapin are gigantic. So, either way.

      Eh, it's also french for rabbit, and maybe they wanted to make the connection.

      and the Naruto thing? Sickens me. That's just…I don't know how to describe it. It's all great for those Naruto fans. I don't really read it. but What about us? What do we get? Less chapters. Aaaghghhh...

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        Naruto should just get thier own magazine XD

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          So I wonder who ran into that meeting saying "Hey! I got a great idea! Let's rush through the part of Naruto that some people actually like, to get to the really sucky part that's making them lose fans in Japan! And in doing so, we'll also piss off the fans of all the other series'! Great idea, huh?"…

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            @op74:

            About the Blackbeard thing, there was not enuff space in the bubble to write it out so I think that is why it has the hyphen. Starting next month, Bobobo joins the book .

            I agree with that theory.

            Who knows maybe after this we can get something similar for One Piece for when the FUNimation dub is ready.

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              @op74:

              About the Blackbeard thing, there was not enuff space in the bubble to write it out so I think that is why it has the hyphen. Starting next month, Bobobo joins the book .

              Oh, well then yeah, that's probably it. They do that all the time. Thank God. Of course I guess we'll know for sure when they have enough room to write all of Blackbeard in a bubble. And when is Blackbeard mentioned again? Not till after Alabasta right? If so we've a long time to find out.

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                Eh, I've gotten used to Viz's sometimes corny scriptwriting, and I've seen worse. Lapins doesn't, cause I wasn't even sure what we were calling them in the first place. "Black-Beard" is the only thing that really irks me. Hopefully they'll change it later on, but if not I guess I can live with it.

                Anyway, about the Naruto thing. I really don't know what to think of it. All I know is I'll have to see it myself to believe it first. But if it is true, my immediate reaction is that I'm actually excited about it. I do like Naruto (not nearly as much as I like One Piece though) so I think it would be cool getting all the Naruto volumes so rapidly (I wish they would do the same with One Piece). Of course I have no idea what other consequences could come about from this, whether it'll affect Naruto's popularity or One Piece's or whatever. Remember that more people watch the anime than read the manga, and heck people may still love Naruto even after the time skip. Americans don't what they like, they may continue to like it simply because it's Naruto. Well, whatever.

                Generally my thoughts as well. And on the Naruto thing, it is annoying how they're pretty much saying:
                "LOOK! LOTS OF NARUTO! YAY! NAUTO! Wait. What do you mean "other series"? Don't people read Shonen Jump just for Naruto?"

                Perhaps Viz is testing the water to see how popular this "catching up system" is. If we're lucky they may give One Piece a simular treatment once the hype has died down, especally if fans maybe wrote in and say something like:
                "We read Shonen Jump for One Piece. Any chance it will be getting a sped up release like Naruto did, as we'd love to read some of the later story lines."

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                  If this rapid volume realease works for Naruto, then maybe with the potential popularity of FUNi's One Piece dub, Viz may do the same exact thing for One Piece.

                  It'd be nice to see CP9 and Thriller Bark serialized in the magazine.

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                    Would you want to wait that long for NARUTO to catch up?

                    What I'm thinking here is that since the anime is currently airing content farther than JUMP (Sasuke vs. Itachi on Toonami, while JUMP is still wading through Gaara), they're trying to catch up and even surpass the anime, in order to keep the storyline exclusives.

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                      @Caracal:

                      Generally my thoughts as well. And on the Naruto thing, it is annoying how they're pretty much saying:
                      "LOOK! LOTS OF NARUTO! YAY! NAUTO! Wait. What do you mean "other series"? Don't people read Shonen Jump just for Naruto?"

                      Perhaps Viz is testing the water to see how popular this "catching up system" is. If we're lucky they may give One Piece a simular treatment once the hype has died down, especally if fans maybe wrote in and say something like:
                      "We read Shonen Jump for One Piece. Any chance it will be getting a sped up release like Naruto did, as we'd love to read some of the later story lines."

                      Yes, well this is America, take it or leave it, and here greed is good. I think Viz's thinking behind this is not only that Naruto is a cash cow, but also because it's a fad, and as we all know fads eventually die. Yes Naruto may be popular today, but what about tomorrow? And at the rate Viz is going it'll take years for them to complete the series and by then the Naruto fad will probably be long dead. So I guess they're trying to release them all right now so they can get as much out of it they can while there's still a large fanbase. And if a few other series happen to be overlooked in the process, "well screw them, they're not doing much for us anyway". That's my theory anyway.

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                        @Nobodyman:

                        Oh, well then yeah, that's probably it. They do that all the time. Thank God. Of course I guess we'll know for sure when they have enough room to write all of Blackbeard in a bubble. And when is Blackbeard mentioned again? Not till after Alabasta right? If so we've a long time to find out.

                        Doesn't Dalton have a flashback of Ace asking about Blackbeard at the end of Drum Island ? I wish the book would go bi-weekly.

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                          Doesn't Dalton have a flashback of Ace asking about Blackbeard at the end of Drum Island ? I wish the book would go bi-weekly.

                          Yeah, its one of the final Drum chapters, just after the SH head out to sea.

                          Y'know, Negima WAS awesome…

                          For the first 18 volumes.

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                            Yeah, its one of the final Drum chapters, just after the SH head out to sea.

                            Huh, I don't remember that part, but if you say so. Then we won't have to wait too long.

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                              hmm I recall them being refered to as 'Ra-bears'
                              was that just 4kids?

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                                okay, according to narutofan.com, Viz is going to release twelve volumes of Naruto from September to December of this year, just to reach volume 2. Twelve volumes in three months is quite a lot by Viz's usual release schedule.

                                This is kind of a cool idea, but WHY THEY HELL CAN'T THEY DO IT FOR ONE PIECE!? The OP manga is thirty volumes behind! It needs this speed-release way more than Naruto does!

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                                  Exept it wouldn't sell :silly:

                                  I kinda doubt even Naruto's popularity is enough for people to buy three freaking volumes each month.

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                                    I would if One Piece were released 3 a month, but I'm just 1 out of however many SJ readers there are.

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                                      @Lazzie:

                                      okay, according to narutofan.com, Viz is going to release twelve volumes of Naruto from September to December of this year, just to reach volume 2. Twelve volumes in three months is quite a lot by Viz's usual release schedule.

                                      This is kind of a cool idea, but WHY THEY HELL CAN'T THEY DO IT FOR ONE PIECE!? The OP manga is thirty volumes behind! It needs this speed-release way more than Naruto does!

                                      'Cause it's Viz. And all they REALLY like is Naruto.

                                      Plus, it's their highest selling manga.

                                      Everything was all for nothing

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                                        Naruto has been popular since it came out . If we want One Piece to have more vols., then we have to support Funi's One Piece, even if it sucks. lol

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                                          Still, though…did anyone get pictures of the 'Drum 1' thing?

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                                            I like to see 2 a month or at least 1 every 2 months. a few books a year and we are caught up..then again Viz might not want to surpass Alabasta in US Anime(which they should seeing Funi is dubbing Jaya) and 15 is little garden/beginning of drum if I am correct?

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                                              @SilverWind:

                                              Still, though…did anyone get pictures of the 'Drum 1' thing?

                                              I don't have a scanner so you'll just have to wait for the issue to hit news stands.

                                              Honestly, there's nothing all that different about the series.

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                                                Hey, I thought I read somewhere, when Kenshin was releasing monthly towards the end, Viz said they wouldn't do any more monthly releases like they did. Then what about Naruto? Sorry for lack of source.

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                                                  I'm not totally sure but I don't think even Kenshin was pulling the same numbers that Naruto currently does.

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                                                    @SilverWind:

                                                    Still, though…did anyone get pictures of the 'Drum 1' thing?

                                                    I don't have pictures, but I can confirm that it is like that. They did it in Yu Yu Hakusho as well. Yu-Gi-Oh!, Shaman King and Hikaru no Go don't use that yet. (well, not so sure about HnG.. I didn't read it this week. >_>)

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                                                      I have a scanner but can't post anything .

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                                                        Pity the poor scottish guy who can't get shonen jump and thus has to wait til august and september to get the two bloody manga series that I do collect:sad:

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                                                          i also noice that bobobo is going monthy hopefully vol relese
                                                          great chapters this month

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                                                            @cdjgamer:

                                                            i also noice that bobobo is going monthy hopefully vol relese
                                                            great chapters this month

                                                            Well, that's good to hear for you Bobobo fans

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                                                              I was checking Volume details on Viz Media, and I checked 'Characters'
                                                              Now they only have 4 Profiles, and its very vauge, but they list Zoro's name as
                                                              Roronoa Zoro
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                                                              I got a screen cap of it too. what could this mean?

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                                                                seems intresting to me…

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                                                                  Viz is lazy and never changed Zoro's name to Zolo on their site ever since they changed it in the manga.

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                                                                    I think the websites must be a low priority when it comes to most anime/manga companies. I mean, the 4kids site still has its OP art up and the Toei site, well…I think we've all seen that...

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                                                                      Ah, got my hopes up…

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                                                                        This article over at Publisher's Weekly sums up exactly how they're going about this 3 per month volume release.

                                                                        I can't help but chuckle at this line though, "Allen said the company has been preparing for this initiative for some time, so the accelerated schedule will not affect other titles."

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                                                                          "Our main reason [for the accelerated schedule] was to catch up to the Japanese release schedule to give our readers a similar experience to that of our readers in Japan," Allen said. "We're also preparing for a significant break in the story arc, which happens between volumes 27 and 28. Two and a half years pass between these volumes and there is also a physical change in Naruto's and the other characters' appearance. "

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                                                                          AAGH. I don't know how long I can keep my patience. Why can't you help out the other series readers?!?
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                                                                            I agree SilverWind. I picked up the latest issue today and it looks like Shaman King only got one bloody chapter…

                                                                            And personally if they want One Piece to become more popular, well, I dunno. Maybe speed it up as well. I'm sure most fans would agree that Arabasta and Water 7/Eneis Lobby are some of the best parts of the series to date (I know I do). Maybe if they caught up with One Piece it could get a simular boost in popularity.

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                                                                              Its sad and pathetic but its agreed that Naruto is the cash cow and One Piece…let alone everything else, isn't to these guys. I say that if they really want to boost Naruto and help everything else, they should just remove it from the magazine and do bi-monthly releases like its other manga...but then it would make magazine sales go down. Yet some manga only get their exposure through the monthly mag and would probably be invisible nowadays without it. Sometimes it makes me wonder why they don't just make it a weekly magazine...or just get rid of it altogether and just release manga volumes.

                                                                              Y'know, Negima WAS awesome…

                                                                              For the first 18 volumes.

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                                                                                I'd prefer it if they just released the volumes every two or heck three months and never bothered with the magazine. Until about about year to eighteen months ago I wasn't even able to frequently get my hands on ASJ, and I had been reading the various series for a good six to twelve months prior to then.

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                                                                                  I know most of us might have seen this before, but Volume 15 cover is revealed on Viz Media. http://www.viz.com/products/products.php?product_id=6398 There's the link. I forgot how to disguise the link as a word, but it works the same.

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                                                                                    What the…? Holy smurf am I slow! Until this statement of yours I never even realized that an octopus is actually serving octopusballs. Talk about not seeing the forest because of too many trees. facepalm

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                                                                                      I'm wondering if it would be in Viz's best interests to stop serializing such well known titles in USJ, and perhaps starts serializing their lesser known titles instead.

                                                                                      Titles like Hikaru no Go, and basically any other lesser known titles (and much harder sells) should be the ones we see in Shonen Jump.

                                                                                      People don't need to see One Piece or Shaman King or Yugioh in SJ to know what it's about and pick up the volumes, especially since the shows are on tv and have that built in fan base.

                                                                                      Other titles could use the SJ exposure MUCH more than the most of the ones in there now. And if those titles got more exposure, then that would hopefully lead to volumes doing better, and Viz would have more series to rely on than the handful of succesful ones they have right now.

                                                                                      Shonen Jump would work out best as a sampler for new never heard of titles, as opposed to just giving us stuff we already know we like. And at the same time, those titles like One Piece, Shaman King, etc. we'd see quicker releases for.

                                                                                      Also, a rotating batch of series would work too. Like, once a series get's popular enough, take it out of SJ and give the fans what they want with quicker volume releases, and then replace it with a new series in the magazine.

                                                                                      Basically, the SJ magazine has alot of potential to really push the rest of Viz's line but Viz isn't using it that way.

                                                                                      ArticUNO ZapDOS MolTRES!!!!!!!!

                                                                                      Holy crap, I never noticed that!

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                                                                                        @gogoedward:

                                                                                        Shonen Jump would work out best as a sampler for new never heard of titles, as opposed to just giving us stuff we already know we like. And at the same time, those titles like One Piece, Shaman King, etc. we'd see quicker releases for.

                                                                                        Do you really think that the bulk of the people who read Shonen Jump are general manga fans or fans of a particular series? If it's the latter, ASJ turning into a sampler would just lead to the latter people canceling their subscription.

                                                                                        I could see a sister magazine having this sort of mentality, but not ASJ itself.

                                                                                        Also, a rotating batch of series would work too. Like, once a series get's popular enough, take it out of SJ and give the fans what they want with quicker volume releases, and then replace it with a new series in the magazine.

                                                                                        And what do you do about the people who subscribed for a particular series exactly? Using a revolving door policy basically screws those subscribers over.

                                                                                        Beyond that, what's the impetus for keeping a subscription if you know full and well that any series that you like has a good chance of being yanked out and released as volumes from then on?

                                                                                        As far as the "fans want quicker volume releases" business goes, I certainly don't as I don't like the idea of sacrificing quality just so that Viz can crank out chapters more quickly. Try this sometime: take any older issue ASJ whose chapters have been released in a volume and flip it to any page of One Piece. Now, take the volume, turn to the corresponding page, and lay it down next to the page. Which of those formats does Oda's work more justice?

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                                                                                          @Ubiq:

                                                                                          Do you really think that the bulk of the people who read Shonen Jump are general manga fans or fans of a particular series?

                                                                                          I'd say so, given the limitations of the magazine - new chapters come out through it first, so most likely a majority of Naruto readers go to the magazine first. OP, SK, and YYH getting strapped in the bundle is more like un-needed extras.

                                                                                          That's one of the conveniences of pumping out so many Naruto volumes at once - if the appeal of the magazine to Naruto fans disappears, will ASJ start to slump in sales? If it does, it'll get cancelled, thus forever cementing the failure of anthologies in the ELC.

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                                                                                            I'm wondering if it would be in Viz's best interests to stop serializing such well known titles in USJ, and perhaps starts serializing their lesser known titles instead.

                                                                                            Titles like Hikaru no Go, and basically any other lesser known titles (and much harder sells) should be the ones we see in Shonen Jump.

                                                                                            People don't need to see One Piece or Shaman King or Yugioh in SJ to know what it's about and pick up the volumes, especially since the shows are on tv and have that built in fan base.

                                                                                            Other titles could use the SJ exposure MUCH more than the most of the ones in there now. And if those titles got more exposure, then that would hopefully lead to volumes doing better, and Viz would have more series to rely on than the handful of succesful ones they have right now.

                                                                                            I'd love it if they did that, mainly because I want to see those series get released as quickly as possible.

                                                                                            Shonen Jump would work out best as a sampler for new never heard of titles, as opposed to just giving us stuff we already know we like. And at the same time, those titles like One Piece, Shaman King, etc. we'd see quicker releases for.

                                                                                            Also, a rotating batch of series would work too. Like, once a series get's popular enough, take it out of SJ and give the fans what they want with quicker volume releases, and then replace it with a new series in the magazine.

                                                                                            Basically, the SJ magazine has alot of potential to really push the rest of Viz's line but Viz isn't using it that way.

                                                                                            See as much as I'd like to think that would work, I can see it failing quite badly. I think we'd all agree that Naruto is carrying ASJ. Without it, I could easily see the magazine getting half, maybe even a quarter of what they sell now. Yes, I'm sure many of us would all agree that some of the other series serialized by Viz are far, FAR better than Naruto but the fact is so few out there are willing to give those series a chance and would rather stay with Naruto. Thus if you tried to release a magazine based around these "non-Naruto" series, I can see it failing to take off.

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                                                                                              I suppose the fact that ASJ started off with particular series would make it hard for such a book to work. Although the idea of Viz utlizing ASJ to open up people to new lesser known series is one I still think should be done. They've done it with Gintama and a few others I beleive, so maybe if Gintama volumes do well Viz will start doing it more.

                                                                                              I just think it's redundant to fill a book entirely with A-list titles, when you could balance it out more and expose people to something new even though they're in it for the bigger series. (Like a double feature, come for one, but you get to see another movie as well. Or how Toonami uses Naruto as a lead in TWICE during their block to support their other shows)

                                                                                              If only the book was bigger, because there's alot of series that COULD be A-listers if they only got more exposure.

                                                                                              I hope that once Naruto isn't in ASJ, it'll still do well, because that could give Viz a reason to try new series out. No skin of Naruto's back if it's taken out of ASJ for good, the series is gold no matter what you do with it. But ASJ might not be so lucky, guess we'll have to wait and see.

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                                                                                                I just think it's redundant to fill a book entirely with A-list titles, when you could balance it out more and expose people to something new even though they're in it for the bigger series. (Like a double feature, come for one, but you get to see another movie as well. Or how Toonami uses Naruto as a lead in TWICE during their block to support their other shows)

                                                                                                I agree with you, but sadly it seems few people out there can be bothered with other series. I know a small forum where a number of artists decided to draw various anime based pictures and post there work in the thread. Most of them were Naruto or Bleach based with maybe one or two based on One Piece. I tried suggesting someone did a picture of "Allen Walker" and only one person was able to mention the series he was from, with another mentioning how he remembered a guy with a silver arm go by that name in JSS and JUS. I tried encouraging a friend to read Hunter x Hunter, describing the excellent scene where Kuilla rips out the man's heart and his reply was "The fight was to short", and left it at that.

                                                                                                I just wish they'd drop the magazine so they could get to Eneis Lobby more quickly.

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                                                                                                  would also like if OP gets more vol per month.

                                                                                                  btw, which volume is bobo w/ the waterslide gen

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                                                                                                    @Caracal:

                                                                                                    I agree with you, but sadly it seems few people out there can be bothered with other series. I know a small forum where a number of artists decided to draw various anime based pictures and post there work in the thread. Most of them were Naruto or Bleach based with maybe one or two based on One Piece. I tried suggesting someone did a picture of "Allen Walker" and only one person was able to mention the series he was from, with another mentioning how he remembered a guy with a silver arm go by that name in JSS and JUS. I tried encouraging a friend to read Hunter x Hunter, describing the excellent scene where Kuilla rips out the man's heart and his reply was "The fight was to short", and left it at that.

                                                                                                    I just wish they'd drop the magazine so they could get to Eneis Lobby more quickly.

                                                                                                    Same as me, I wished they would hurry up and get to volume 46

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                                                                                                      I agree we shoukd get rid of ASJ so we can get the mangas faster

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                                                                                                        A good idea to raise sales would be to release more than like 4 volumes a year… Maybe 6? For Shonen jump manga, instead of raising naruto to like 5 chapters a month (they recently did), do the same to One Piece. Naruto already has outstanding sales, and I don't think that 2 more chapters a month is required. Atleast 6 manga volumes a year. That would be great, and keep most people satisfied.
                                                                                                        Also, for the manga that already is finished, ASJ shouldn't put one chapter a month. Beef it up to 3-5, so then after it is done, we can read a different serialized manga. I really think Bleach should be in ASJ instead of Shaman King and Hikaru No Go and Yuyu, those ended ages ago.
                                                                                                        For JSJ, I think that as soon as there are enough chapters for a volume, release it. I mean, for like the past month and a half, volume 46 has been ready to publish.
                                                                                                        And finally, for ASJ, how about they get rid of every single manga except for Naruto. No, this isn't sarcasm. Just release like 20 chapters a month. Then, once they are caught up to the Japanese manga, all the little-Naruto lovers can see the disgusting trash we all know and hate as "Shippuden"

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