Is Luffy following the same steps as Gold Roger?

[luffink]

I´ve been thinking it for a while, and there´s some… "coincidences":

• Logue Town: where Roger was born, where Roger died.
• Twin peaks(Grand Line´s entrance): Crocus must have known Roger(he has been in those peaks for fifty years at least)
• Drum: Kureha seemed to know Roger too.
• Sky Piea: He was in Sky Piea too, and he met Gan For/Fall/Fouru
• Water 7: Tom built a new ship for him.

A different speculation: what if he had an archeologist too on his ship(Ok, he must have had one in his ship to decipher the Phonegliph in Sky Piea..) and what if that archeologist was from Ohara, or even better, what if he was Robin´s father?(the flashback didn´t tell us too much about him)

[Darkariel]

@luffink:

I´ve been thinking it for a while, and there´s some… "coincidences":

• Logue Town: where Roger was born, where Roger died.
• Twin peaks(Grand Line´s entrance): Crocus must have known Roger(he has been in those peaks for fifty years at least)
• Drum: Kureha seemed to know Roger too.
• Sky Piea: He was in Sky Piea too, and he met Gan For/Fall/Fouru
• Water 7: Tom built a new ship for him.

A different speculation: what if he had an archeologist too on his ship(Ok, he must have had one in his ship to decipher the Phonegliph in Sky Piea..) and what if that archeologist was from Ohara, or even better, what if he was Robin´s father?(the flashback didn´t tell us too much about him)

I think that Luffy might be doing the same route Gol D. Roger made (the question is did Dorry and Brogy knew Gol D. Roger ? )

But regarding the 2nd speculation there is actually no prove that Gol D. Roger wasn't the archeologist (and also maybe Nico Robin's father althought this one I don't think it's true)

Maybe Gol D. Roger was the one that did read the Poneglyph in Skypiea and wrote the little message (the message seems to be in a "I…" prespective (probably meaning that Gol D. Roger was the one that wrote it))

But then again knowing Oda's work, he migth just pull something never seen before and suprise everyone

[Robin Stjernberg]

That one with Roger being Nico's father. I thought about it for a short while too. But we see her father in her flashback, and that is after Roger died, so no, that does not work.

[wintergt]

Yes Oda is being very big on the whole matter of how much Luffy 'resembles' Gold Roger.. foreshadowing that he is indeed fit out to be the next Pirate King.. most notably, for me atleast, was the "same way they smiled upon looking death in the eye" in Logue Town.

[chopper]

luffy might be following the path of gold roger but we dont know much about gold roger and his crew i dont think tay were as close as luffy and his crew :P:party:

[d3adpool]

Actually if you go back to the time they first arrived at the Grand Line and met Crocus they were given the choice to choose one of the seven routes to the end of the GrandLine.

There was some hints in Crocus (someone who has met Roger) lines that made me feel like the Mugiwara choose the same route that Gol D Roger did. I have to go back to those chapters and re-read it to be sure.

[smurfx]

@Darkariel:

I think that Luffy might be doing the same route Gol D. Roger made (the question is did Dorry and Brogy knew Gol D. Roger ? )

i think they might of met him but forgot his name. i was watching the anime the other day and when luffy is talking to them about the log pose they mention a guy from a long time ago that came to the island and then sailed off the island with out having a log pose. i'm not sure if that was only in the anime or if it was also in the manga.

nvm i just read the manga and it had no mention of this.

[joekido the Second]

Hopefully, Luffy don't get excuted like Roger in the end but let's wait a see how this'll go.

[Robin Stjernberg]

I would actually hope for him to be just that. That, if something, would be a legendary ending.

[Narguilo]

@smurfx:

i think they might of met him but forgot his name. i was watching the anime the other day and when luffy is talking to them about the log pose they mention a guy from a long time ago that came to the island and then sailed off the island with out having a log pose. i'm not sure if that was only in the anime or if it was also in the manga.

nvm i just read the manga and it had no mention of this.

In fact, if i remember the manga well, brogy say luffy that it took 1 year to set the log pose and then he tell them some possibilities of escape:

• Waiting for the log to pose
• Trying to to beat dorry and brogy to get Elbaf's eternal log
• Or sailing without recharging the log, then just using luck, but it is a joke (which luffy though as a good idea :))

But here i have though of a plothole, they said there was people who tried to attack them because they didn t want to wait….
So what happened to their log?
Why not taking a old logpose which has been recharged for more than a year ??

[Darkariel]

@Robin:

That one with Roger being Nico's father. I thought about it for a short while too. But we see her father in her flashback, and that is after Roger died, so no, that does not work.

Well about Nico Robin's father flashback, it's a flashback in a flashback remember, so Gol D. Roger could still be alive at that time

Gol D. Roger is dead in the flashback but I think he's still alive in the flashback inside the flashback

One thing I thought about the Little Garden if Dorry and Brogy killed people that attacked them there would certainly be log poses that already had charge the island magnetic field (so why not just take one of a dead body and continue the trip)

This part is just pure speculation:

Maybe Dorry and Brogy didn't knew Gol D. Roger or else they would have said something or they forgot him (don't think they would forget Gol D. Roger) althought Dorry and Brogy might have been asked by Gol D. Roger to make secret is passage by Little Garden by some unknown factor

[joekido the Second]

@Darkariel:

Well about Nico Robin's father flashback, it's a flashback in a flashback remember, so Gol D. Roger could still be alive at that time

Gol D. Roger is dead in the flashback but I think he's still alive in the flashback inside the flashback

One thing I thought about the Little Garden if Dorry and Brogy killed people that attacked them there would certainly be log poses that already had charge the island magnetic field (so why not just take one of a dead body and continue the trip)

This part is just pure speculation:

Maybe Dorry and Brogy didn't knew Gol D. Roger or else they would have said something or they forgot him (don't think they would forget Gol D. Roger) althought Dorry and Brogy might have been asked by Gol D. Roger to make secret is passage by Little Garden by some unknown factor

I don't think Gold D. Roger was Robin's father, I mean Robin' father was dead already 6 years before Roger was excuted so how can Robin have two fathers? :huh: Oliva made it clear Robin's father was a Oharan scohler

[DarkShinobi]

I really don't think Luffy and crew took the same route as Roger. Remember in Little Garden when Broggy said that ALL the humans that landed on the island in the past 100 years either died of starvation, were killed by wild animals, or were killed by Dorry and Broggy when they attacked them.

Broggy would've said to Usopp and Nami that only 1 group of humans survived. There was no reason to keep it secret and also like every other character that has met or known Roger (Kureha, Kokoro etc.), they have all said that Luffy is a lot like him. Wouldn't Dorry and Broggy have said the same thing by the end of Little Garden?

[FireFistAce 0]

The shilouette in Robin's Flashback-in-a-flashback is a tall, skinny guy. Roger was a friggin' huge man. So unless he took insane amounts of steroids in the 2-3 years before his execution, I seriously doubt that Roger is Robin's father.

However, since we don't know anything about the Oro Jackson's crew, it's very possible (And probably likely) that Roger's crew held Robin's father as a nakama. As strong as Roger is, he couldn't conquer the Grand Line alone. But if he did, this would support my theory that Roger ate a Devil fruit that nullifies other devil fruit (chuuwa chuuwa no mi, or neutralize fruit). That way, he could fight anyone he wants on equal grounds.

Look at Whitebeard. Whitebeard was the only man to go toe to toe with Roger and come out even. And now, he's dying! Whether his poor health is from the beating he took from Roger, or from something the Oro Jackson's crew found on Raftel (Poison Gas, Nuclear fallout, etc.), we don't know. One thing I can tell you is that I'm 100% sure it's not from his drinking. What he said to the nurse makes me think that it's something terminal, not something as pathetic as liver disease.

As for the route he followed, everyone seems to forget they kinda changed routes after Little Garden. They were following an Enternal Pose to Alabasta and got lost, ending up at Drum. From Drum on, they seemed to be following Roger's path.

So Whiskey Peak and Little Garden were not part of Roger's path. Skypeia, Drum, Alabasta, etc., all had evidence Roger had been there. Little Garden and Whiskey Peak did not.

[Robin Stjernberg]

Darkariel, damn you are right, but still, Roger came from East Blue didn't he?

"Fire Fist" Ace: How do we know that Roger was freaking huge?

[FireFistAce 0]

The flashback in Loguetown… even the Executioners were pissing their pants as they were leading Roger to the platform.

[joekido the Second]

@Fire Fist:

The flashback in Loguetown… even the Executioners were pissing their pants as they were leading Roger to the platform.

That's filler, it was not found in the manga. In the manga, Gold D. Roger was seen olny kneeing down as the executioners hold their swords skyward. The Japanese manga never said how he died, the American manga says his head was looped off, in the Louge Town filler flashback, Toei tries to explian how Roger died by having two man stab the swords through his heart. Toei need to stop trying to add stories like that. In the Logue Town manga, there was no flashback

[shuvy87]

I think in the newest episode, Kokoro said something like "Tom, wasn't Roger stupid like this kid"

[luffink]

I didn´t mean that Roger would be Robin´s father: I said that Roger could have had an archeologist on his crew, and that archeologist could have been Robin´s father

[Darkariel]

@shuvy87:

I think in the newest episode, Kokoro said something like "Tom, wasn't Roger stupid like this kid"

I don't remember seing that :unsure:

Gol D. Roger couldn't have been stupid or else he wouldn't have done what he did (but them again Luffy isn't stupid either just naive)

To the Nico Robin being Gol D. Roger's daughter (I said it would be a very improbable possibility)

Regarding WhiteBeard he could be in the state he's in because the fight he had with Gol D. Roger or because he was a blood degenerating disease and needs tranfusions (this is speculation of course)

I don't think Gol D. Roger ate a akuma no mi (but if he did it would have been the akuma akuma no mi the one that controls all others)
There's also the possibility that Roger was the sea devil king (master of the sea devils, the spirits that are on the akuma no mi)

But I rather like to think Gol D. Roger didn't ate a akuma no mi and did all that he did by is own power (and that would be the closest theory to what Oda was being giving about Gol D. Roger so far)

I think the manga only shows Gol D. Roger at the execution platform (but looking good there a shot where he seems bigger then most (but not giant big)

[FireFistAce 0]

@joekido:

That's filler, it was not found in the manga. In the manga, Gold D. Roger was seen olny kneeing down as the executioners hold their swords skyward. The Japanese manga never said how he died, the American manga says his head was looped off, in the Louge Town filler flashback, Toei tries to explian how Roger died by having two man stab the swords through his heart. Toei need to stop trying to add stories like that. In the Logue Town manga, there was no flashback

I never read the Loguetown manga so I didn't know, only the anime. But regardless, in the first page of the first tanko, when he's kneeling, his presence just makes him seem huge. And Whitebeard is the ONLY man to come out even with this guy… Whitebeard's a frickin 12 foot tall man. You think Roger would have no problem beating that if he was, say, Luffy's size? Dorry put a huge dinosaur carcass on top of Luffy with little or no effort. Dorry OR Broggy would have kicked the crap outta Luffy. If Whitebeard is the strongest man in the world, then he would have kicked the crap out of Dorry and Broggy. If Roger was the Pirate King, then Roger would've kicked the crap out of Whitebeard (Which he did, look how sick Whitebeard is).

So, following that logic: Luffy <dorry +="" broggy<="" whitebeard="" <="" roger<br="">I have no doubt in my mind that Roger is a bear of a man.

As for his execution method, I'm about 100% sure he was impaled by spears through the heart. Why? Norland was killed the same way, and they SHOWED that. Plus, Roger is Old German for "Famous Spear".

With that analogy, let's look at the rest of it:

The Spear of Destiny was a golden spear that Longivitus used to pierece the Side of Jesus. It was found and kept in the Vienna Museum for several hundred years. When the Third Reich declared war, Hitler took the spear and kept it with him at all times. The spear was said to make his wielder invincible, but if they ever lost the spear, they would die a horrible death.

Well, 3 days before Hitler died, the spear was taken from him in an American raid on Berlin. His death came soon after.

Not to bring any controversy to One Piece or anything, but did Oda intend for this analogy to be in his story?

Here's my big question, though: Where is Roger's body? Where is Roger's grave? The Navy took all the trouble to haul him back to Loguetown, and they don't even make a grave for him. Belle-mere had a grave, So did Pell (Though that might have just been filler, I think it was). Where is Roger's body buried? I doubt they just dumped it in the sea.</dorry>

[Ubiq]

@Fire Fist:

If Roger was the Pirate King, then Roger would've kicked the crap out of Whitebeard (Which he did, look how sick Whitebeard is).

You're basing this on… what exactly? The implication by Buggy is that Roger and Whitebeard were approximately equal in strength. The fact that Roger was Pirate King while Whitebeard was not does not necessarily mean anything as Whitebeard may not even want that title.

The fact that he's sick doesn't necessarily mean anything as the guy is fairly old and apparently doesn't make a huge attempt to take care of himself either.

Where is Roger's body buried? I doubt they just dumped it in the sea.

Why wouldn't they? The guy was a criminal and I doubt that they're going to hand his body over to his family or crew so that they can give him a proper burial. Most likely, they buried him at sea or in a prisoner's grave.

There's a chance that they took it back to Mariejoa for symbolic reasons, but even then it's more likely that they just dumped it.

[FireFistAce 0]

Not necessarilly.

Benito Mussolini, the leader of the FAscist party, was a hero in Italy during WW II. When the Americans kidnapped and executed him, they hung his and his lover's body upside down from a rope in the center of Rome so that people could come up and spit on his chest.

I mean, if I really wanted to put out a message that said "Don't fuck with the WG", I'd shrink Roger's head and wear it as a trophy. I wouldn't just dump his body somewhere and leave it to rot.

Besides, I get the impression that the Gorosei respect talent (They respected Clover, even calling him an impressive scholar), so I'm pretty sure they respected Roger (As a great man), but they had a job to do.

If they took Jesus' body and just dumped it into the Dead Sea, do you think it would have made as big an impact?

[Robin Stjernberg]

"Fire Fist" Ace, you are not thinking logical here. Yeah, okay, Luffy got beaten by Dorry, but do you still think he could do that, with the devolpment Luffy has been trough? Or do that when Luffy will become pirate king? If your statement would be right, Luffy would never be able to kick Whitebeards ass.
And Roger did NOT kick the shit out of Whitebeard, it was a tie.

[Darkariel]

@Robin:

"Fire Fist" Ace, you are not thinking logical here. Yeah, okay, Luffy got beaten by Dorry, but do you still think he could do that, with the devolpment Luffy has been trough? Or do that when Luffy will become pirate king? If your statement would be right, Luffy would never be able to kick Whitebeards ass.
And Roger did NOT kick the shit out of Whitebeard, it was a tie.

Gol D. Roger and Luffy share the same adventurous spirit so I dought Luffy wouldn't have found a way to defeat Brogy he really wanted to (he was fighting good until Brogy put the skeleton on top of him)

I think Gol D. Roger vs WhiteBeard tie was because Roger didn't want to kill WhiteBeard and endend the match (kinda like the Yasopp vs Daddy althought this one is kinda of a filler)

And for the Burial it was comun that Sailor and pirates where buried in the sea or burned to ashes

Also Gol D. Roger's execution was good enough to pass the message throught no need for anything more

And why in hell's name do you have to talk about dictators (Gol D. Roger wasn't a dictator, the Gorousei are)

Never ever compare Gol D. Roger with Hitler or Mussolini those are more appropriate for comparission with Gorousei

And Roger is germanic term for spear not german

[Majek]

@Fire Fist:

Not necessarilly.

Benito Mussolini, the leader of the FAscist party, was a hero in Italy during WW II. When the Americans kidnapped and executed him, they hung his and his lover's body upside down from a rope in the center of Rome so that people could come up and spit on his chest.

wait what?! What Americans? And what center of Rome? :huh:

[Voodzik]

@Majek:

wait what?! What Americans? And what center of Rome? :huh:

The Americans (and the scotts, while we're at it) marched into italy. The people, tired to death of his regime, took Mussolini out in front of his own palace (or whatever you call it) hung him by his feet, beat him, and shot him.

[Majek]

Musollini was caught by partisans while trying to escape. He was killed by partisans along with his mistress and other fascist leaders. After death they were hung by their feet on a gas station near Milano.

The point : No americans were directly involved with his capture and execution and it was nowhere near Rome as "Fire Fist" Ace stated:dry:

[Voodzik]

@Majek:

Musollini was caught by partisans while trying to escape. He was killed by partisans along with his mistress and other fascist leaders. After death they were hung by their feet on a gas station near Milano.

The point : No americans were directly involved with his capture and execution and it was nowhere near Rome as "Fire Fist" Ace stated:dry:

So I got the details wrong point being, the peaople took care of business

[FireFistAce 0]

Yeah, I had the details on Mussolini a little wrong. I'm sorry.

Point is, like Voodzik says, they friggin hung him upside down and spat on him, after they had worshipped him as a hero. That says something about the minds of the people… they can change at anytime.

As for the Luffy > Dorry + Broggy > Whitebeard > Roger logic, what I'm saying is Luffy will eventually overcome these people, but for the current time, there are people stronger than Luffy who don't need Devil fruits. Luffy has a lot of work, even with gear second at his disposal. Though I'm fairly certain that Shanks will be the last person Luffy fights, he's not the only one that's stronger than Luffy.

As for Whitebeard being beaten the "Shit out of", what I meant was that he's sick. Whether it's from radiation sickness or from the toll on his body from fighting Roger, we don't know. I can tell you it's not from his drinking based on what he said to the nurse:

"If I want to drink, how's that bad for my health?"

This makes me think that the fight with Roger took a toll on his body, and may have taken a toll on Roger's body as well (One of the reasons he got caught). Or from Radiation Sickness, but that's kinda cliche, and a touchy subject in Japan.

Sorry if I confused everyone. I apologize.

[theinvisibleworm]

I think Mussolini died a happy man. I know that if I was given a spectacular death like that, I'd be happy.

[Voodzik]

@theinvisibleworm:

I think Mussolini died a happy man. I know that if I was given a spectacular death like that, I'd be happy.

Upside down with a bullet in your ass?:blink:

[Dubanka]

Here's what I want to know:

If Gold Roger was the strongest man in the world, who captured him? Wouldn't that marine/bounty hunter/whoever really be the strongest man in the world then? And perhaps he may still be around!

I think it's very possible that Luffy's final battle won't be against Whitebeard, but against the only man who actually defeated Gold Roger.

[Robin Stjernberg]

No, that's not for sure. It could have been a lot of guys who captured him, and, they could have weakened him in some way before actually fighting him.
Or he gave up on his own by some reason.

Yeah, I too doubt that the last fight will be against Whitebeard. I think some guy who lives on Raftel and is watching the place, and the the absolutly last fight will be against Koby. ^^ That one, will Luffy lose in (same reason why Roger could have lost).

[Voodzik]

Seriously, if Luffy dies at the end, it will ruin the entire series for me. Like the ending of Big O, it would make an otherwise awesome story just…..blech.

[joekido the Second]

Cliche IMO that Luffy died in the end after getting impaled/crushed/exploded/shoted/sliced/burned/drowned/run over/beated/whacked/shocked/frozen and in the end… They finally killed him? IMO that'll suck.

[Voodzik]

@joekido:

Cliche IMO that Luffy died in the end after getting impaled/crushed/exploded/shoted/sliced/burned/drowned/run over/beated/whacked/shocked/frozen and in the end… They finally killed him? IMO that'll suck.

IMO you use IMO too much, IMHO.

Seriously though, you're right. Luffy's death would crap a turtle.

[Robin Stjernberg]

Uhm, whoot? What are you talking about?
Yes, I want Luffy to die in the end.
But not in a fight, did NOT say that.
I want him to die the same way as Roger did.
Or, we see him standing there, ready to die, and says the same lines as in Lougue Town when he was gonna die, smiles, and then, Zoro or someone cuts the whole stand down. They escape, exaclty like they did there before. Luffy smiles, and it ends.
My two coins of the best ending. Say whatever you want, I would still reeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaalllllllly enjoy both of them.

[joekido the Second]

After Luffy going through many trials, he still stands and in the end they finally killed him by excuting him? No thanks. You you think, that's fine but I don't want Luffy to go through the same thing Roger went.

[Voodzik]

@Robin:

Uhm, whoot? What are you talking about?
Yes, I want Luffy to die in the end.
But not in a fight, did NOT say that.
I want him to die the same way as Roger did.
Or, we see him standing there, ready to die, and says the same lines as in Lougue Town when he was gonna die, smiles, and then, Zoro or someone cuts the whole stand down. They escape, exaclty like they did there before. Luffy smiles, and it ends.
My two coins of the best ending. Say whatever you want, I would still reeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaalllllllly enjoy both of them.

One Piece is neither a Thomas Hardy novel nor a scooby doo movie:annoy:
EDIT:I take it back: One piece is neither a _Charles Dickens_novel or a scooby doo movie. In Thomas Hardy all the SH's would die and Luffy would kill himself out of despair.

[Robin Stjernberg]

Roger probably had almost (not as many I think) trials in the way as Luffy, and he did die in the end. So, why couldn't that happen to Luffy?
And, how would it be cliche to kill Luffy in the end? I'm not a mega big fan of manga, but in like movies and things like that, it do not happen THAT often. =/

[Voodzik]

@Robin:

Roger probably have almost (not as many I think) trials in the way as Luffy, and he did die in the end. So, why couldn't that happen to Luffy?
And, how would it be cliche to kill Luffy in the end? I'm not a mega big fan of manga, but in like movies and things like that, it do not happen THAT often. =/

0.o what manga have you been reading exactly? You've obviously missed…..most of it:huh:

[Robin Stjernberg]

Uhm, I've read about the most that has been released in sweden, and a bunch of those been released in the america.
But when I start to think about it… I haven't really read trough that many series, there is barely like over 5 that I've read that is worth reading so many books of.

But still, there is A LOT of cliche things in One Piece that has been really great done, and still do not feel very cliche (not to me at least).

[Azegoroth]

If the series doesn't end right away when the SH crew gets hold of one piece. I'd bet my money on the following scenario:

Luffy is approached by the WG and told that if he surrenders, the lives of his nakama will be spared. Luffy reluctantly agrees and is brought to the execution stand, probably in loguetown or the WG's headquarters.
Just as he's supposed to be executed, The gates/execution stand bursts into pieces, and Luffys nakama, along with several of the people he met on the grand line, storm in and save him. They sail off into the sunset, The End.

I really doubt Luffy would die, if he did, then what was the point of having Roger in the story in the first place?

[LightningAce]

The New Pirate King will spell the end of the Current World Governement- i'd bet all my money on that outcome. Cuz Robin will find the Lost History and then of course probably make it known.
I really do not think it will end once they get OP. There will be more too it then that.

As for the whole Whitebeard/Roger thing.

My belief is, they were equally powerrful but the reason Roger was known as Pirate king was due to him achieving a level of Greatness that WB wasn't at.
With all his great treasure.

[Voodzik]

@Azegoroth:

If the series doesn't end right away when the SH crew gets hold of one piece. I'd bet my money on the following scenario:

Luffy is approached by the WG and told that if he surrenders, the lives of his nakama will be spared. Luffy reluctantly agrees and is brought to the execution stand, probably in loguetown or the WG's headquarters.
Just as he's supposed to be executed, The gates/execution stand bursts into pieces, and Luffys nakama, along with several of the people he met on the grand line, storm in and save him. They sail off into the sunset, The End.

I really doubt Luffy would die, if he did, then what was the point of having Roger in the story in the first place?

Alright, wanna hear my bet on the ending? The True History becomes known, and the knowledge divides the world. Sides will not necessarily be as they are now; those who were pirates could join the WG, and die hard Navy officers could join the side Luffy is on (and perhaps leading.) A war breaks out between the two factions in which the WG finally collapses (eight hundred years in power is a long freaking time) Public outcry calls for Luffy to lead the newly formed nation, but he refuses and sails away with his nakama. Or he could agree, and each of his Nakama go off into their own chosen professions. I'd take either.

[Azegoroth]

@Voodzik:

Alright, wanna hear my bet on the ending? The True History becomes known, and the knowledge divides the world. Sides will not necessarily be as they are now; those who were pirates could join the WG, and die hard Navy officers could join the side Luffy is on (and perhaps leading.) A war breaks out between the two factions in which the WG finally collapses (eight hundred years in power is a long freaking time) Public outcry calls for Luffy to lead the newly formed nation, but he refuses and sails away with his nakama. Or he could agree, and each of his Nakama go off into their own chosen professions. I'd take either.

That make much more sense than my take, but still, in your version or mine, luffy doesn't die.

[Voodzik]

@Azegoroth:

That make much more sense than my take, but still, in your version or mine, luffy doesn't die.

True; I was just trying to come up with a theory that encompassed all of the elements Oda has introduced.

[Majek]

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[Majek]

@Voodzik:

Alright, wanna hear my bet on the ending? The True History becomes known, and the knowledge divides the world. Sides will not necessarily be as they are now; those who were pirates could join the WG, and die hard Navy officers could join the side Luffy is on (and perhaps leading.) A war breaks out between the two factions in which the WG finally collapses (eight hundred years in power is a long freaking time) Public outcry calls for Luffy to lead the newly formed nation, but he refuses and sails away with his nakama. Or he could agree, and each of his Nakama go off into their own chosen professions. I'd take either.

Now that's a cliche ending if there is one.