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    • Quexinos
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      OKay first off… last time I made a thread about this (and I got a moderator's permission to start another) it ended up in flames... please do not flame this time. this is simply a help requested thread not a "debate whether or not this is useless" thread

      I've been talking about doing this in the 4kids discussion dub but I want to make sure everyone sees this, not just those who watch the dub.

      http://www.saveonepiece.com

      Okay now I added a new section to the site called "The Plan" it's on the bottom left. I plan to do everything I wrote about in there. I do plan to try my hardest to get a meeting with Al Kahn and if not, Ill go to 4kids headquarters anyway and just WALK IN!.. or not… we'll see. I think I can push my way in politely though. I have a friend in the business world so I kinda know how this stuff works. Anyway I have an online petition, it goes again my better judgement but I think if I keep good tabs on it, it'll be okay... and letters...

      I need more letters, I've only gotten one. Please take the time to write a letter. It doesn't need to be huge, it'll take you 5-10 minutes and is more powerful than a signature on a petition could ever be.

      Thanks for your time and no flaming please :unsure:

      _For with a closing door, another surely opens

      Just you wait and see,

      And when you look back on where we've been together

      Wherever you may be

      I hope that you remember me_

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        here's a word of advice from the moderator who gave permission to start this thread:

        if you think this is going to be a fruitless effort, simply DO NOT participate. expressing your pessimism might lead to unpleasantness that we do NOT welcome in this forum. think of this as those dudes standing in front of your local grocery store asking for you to sign petition to save the whales. you don't go up to them and start telling them that what they're doing is useless. if you don't care, simply ignore. if you care, sign.

        okay, so that was more than "a word," but if i just use a word you people won't understand exactly what i mean by it. =P

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          there's more than just a petition, I need some people to write letters too.

          _For with a closing door, another surely opens

          Just you wait and see,

          And when you look back on where we've been together

          Wherever you may be

          I hope that you remember me_

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            I want to participate, but do we need to sign the petition then send you our emails?

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                Okay, Sonique is working hard to get us, the public, a decent OP dub. She has been working on this for ages and is obviously totally committed to it. People like you, who give up before even trying, are of no interest to us, the ones who want a decent English version.

                Also, I don't think you read e1n's post. "If you don't care, simply ignore." :dry:

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                    @Demon:

                    I want to participate, but do we need to sign the petition then send you our emails?

                    email me a business letter to Al Kahn. Im going to print them all out and give them to him ^_^

                    _For with a closing door, another surely opens

                    Just you wait and see,

                    And when you look back on where we've been together

                    Wherever you may be

                    I hope that you remember me_

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                      I loved the comparision between PBSkids and 4kids, so true. Anyway, I signed the petition already. I'm still writing my e-mail to them though, since I need to get my student teacher to check it for any errors and unprofessional-ism.

                      If you can't write decent letters you guys should at least sign the petition, what've you got to lose?

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                        I've already signed the petition and I'll get to work on a business letter! I've never done anything like this before, problably due to laziness. But what the hell?! It's One Piece! Something worth fighting for! YARRR!!

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                          I am gonna sign the petition and work on a letter ^^ Man this is to cool, finally the fans can get a say about how they feel towards the One Piece dub, this cuase is very much worth fighting for.

                          Originally Posted by Sonique

                          Kahn's just a dumbass, kids may read books less, but they read the internet more =D

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                            I'll try to write up something. Should there be something specific to say in the letter? I mean, I know it needs to be a "mature" one and not just a letter to flame them, and that I should also avoid bringing up some of the more "trivial" matters, but is there something I should push for in the letter?

                            Oh, and this PBS thing isn't too much of a surprise to me (when you have no cable, you have to watch SOMETHING on occasion 😛 ).

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                              I actually emailed the lady who is doing this and she has asked me to ask around to people like Ivotas, and FFU. I'm waiting to get Permission from Seta to do it.

                              Thanks E1n for the sig, and Traitor_Jim for the refine.

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                                ivotas lives in germany…so i dont think this matters to him.

                                _ Originally Posted by mr.allsunday

                                Nice job jumping on the bandwagon there Aethos, I can only wish I was as cool as you_

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                                  But she said in the letter to try and ask them if they can get the ratings of One Piece in their contry. I should've mentioned that earlier. So my bad.

                                  Thanks E1n for the sig, and Traitor_Jim for the refine.

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                                    To Sonique: maybe you can show Kahn your website on your letter.

                                    To Dronabinol: I love your signature drools.

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                                      I visited this site before I saw this thread, and I agree with what was said on it. I am considering writing a letter, but I don't know if I should. The dub totally frips and I hope they stop dubbing it after Alabasta. Seriously, how far can dub the show? I am not looking forward to them fripping up my favourite arc(Skypeia). laughs I called them 4crap on their own forum and they edited my post. Haven't posted scince. Bunch of clorbags.. So anyway has anyone heard if they are going to keep dubbing the show?

                                      Wow, kinda random post.

                                      To Dronabinol: I love your signature drools.

                                      Agreed. Let the drooling begin…

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                                        well. Here's my letter to Kahn

                                        Dear Mr. Alfred Kahn; CEO of 4kids entertainment,

                                        I was not at first a big fan of One Piece until you picked it up. I do thank-you for picking it up but there was a heavy downside. I was browsing for One Piece things on the net and saw a forum about how you heavily edited it. Having actually seen the original episodes I ask why? I know it's to keep kids from doing stupid things. I can understand the changing of Sake to some type of juice. The editing of Sanji's cigerette. But what I do not understand is the edit of blood and the name changes. Ace to Trace Cobra to Nebra Smoker to Chaser. I can understand Zoro to Zolo. You did that due to copyright reasons for Zorro. But changing Ace to Trace is where I draw the line.

                                        Also; the highly unwanted edits that drive me, and many others off the edge. The editing out of Belle-mere's death. People die all the time. Why not put that in? It's not like kids haven't experienced death before. And why all the episode cutting? To skipped the entire Little graden, and Laboon arc. You've had a full 93 episodes into 54! And the theme song. Why not stick with "We are!"?

                                        Now; The main point in this, and probably most the the emails and or letter you'll be getting over a period of time is you opening up of a 4teens. I would imagine you would show it on Cartoon Network and have it like miguzi. But you could show it between Miguzi and Toonami on Saturdays, Or simply send an un-cut version of One Piece to toonami. That would probably be easier and save alot of cash. Plus One Piece's fanbase and ratings will go through the roof.

                                        I'm trying to convince him to simply put out an un-cut copy

                                        Thanks E1n for the sig, and Traitor_Jim for the refine.

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                                          well. Here's my letter to Kahn

                                          Dear Mr. Alfred Kahn; CEO of 4kids entertainment,

                                          I was not at first a big fan of One Piece until you picked it up. I do thank-you for picking it up but there was a heavy downside. I was browsing for One Piece things on the net and saw a forum about how you heavily edited it. Having actually seen the original episodes I ask why? I know it's to keep kids from doing stupid things. I can understand the changing of Sake to some type of juice. The editing of Sanji's cigerette. But what I do not understand is the edit of blood and the name changes. Ace to Trace Cobra to Nebra Smoker to Chaser. I can understand Zoro to Zolo. You did that due to copyright reasons for Zorro. But changing Ace to Trace is where I draw the line.

                                          Also; the highly unwanted edits that drive me, and many others off the edge. The editing out of Belle-mere's death. People die all the time. Why not put that in? It's not like kids haven't experienced death before. And why all the episode cutting? To skipped the entire Little graden, and Laboon arc. You've had a full 93 episodes into 54! And the theme song. Why not stick with "We are!"?

                                          Now; The main point in this, and probably most the the emails and or letter you'll be getting over a period of time is you opening up of a 4teens. I would imagine you would show it on Cartoon Network and have it like miguzi. But you could show it between Miguzi and Toonami on Saturdays, Or simply send an un-cut version of One Piece to toonami. That would probably be easier and save alot of cash. Plus One Piece's fanbase and ratings will go through the roof.

                                          I'm trying to convince him to simply put out an un-cut copy

                                          No no no no no…. Asking for an uncut on T.V is not they way to go. Trust me... they'll ignore you if you ask that.

                                          Simply ask them to lighten up on the edits now that it's on Toonami. Asking them for the uncut on T.V is asking for too much. As I've said.... A Naruto style dub would suffice (not uncut, but the edits are minamal... And that's okay)

                                          Oh! And (not to be mean... But...) showing 4Kids Sonique's website is not a very good idea... It's too... Hostile. Which is completely understandable given that this is 4Kids.... But not the best thing to show a company if you're trying to get a point across.

                                          Anyways... I'll think of a letter... Just gotta think what to put.

                                          Everything was all for nothing

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                                            I have been looking for something like this. I will gladly support it in anyway I can, I will sign the petition and write a letter. And I will also put the banner for the site on any site I can.

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                                              I'll be fair here, I'm willing to sign the petitions not to bring in an uncut version on T.V. but I'll sign the petitions bagging 4kids to "lighten" up on the edits. Just as I agreed with Romangod. I'll do this. If they do lighten up on the dub(I meant making less edits and cuts) I believe it can profit them more money to make a unedit and uncut DVD. Right now, One Piece is struggling to it's feet on Toonami so it'll take time to get popluar. I'll sign to help speed that up and get more money to release uncut and unedit OP DVD.

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                                                @RomanGod:

                                                Oh! And (not to be mean… But...) showing 4Kids Sonique's website is not a very good idea... It's too... Hostile. Which is completely understandable given that this is 4Kids.... But not the best thing to show a company if you're trying to get a point across.

                                                Especially since I just put up that section exposing a bunch of the lies they told :mellow: maybe it should take it down temporarly

                                                Oh, and this PBS thing isn't too much of a surprise to me (when you have no cable, you have to watch SOMETHING on occasion 😛 ).

                                                And Arthur is just darn cool ^_^

                                                _For with a closing door, another surely opens

                                                Just you wait and see,

                                                And when you look back on where we've been together

                                                Wherever you may be

                                                I hope that you remember me_

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                                                  good point. I'll edit it later.

                                                  Thanks E1n for the sig, and Traitor_Jim for the refine.

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                                                    @joekido:

                                                    I'll be fair here, I'm willing to sign the petitions not to bring in an uncut version on T.V. but I'll sign the petitions bagging 4kids to "lighten" up on the edits. Just as I agreed with Romangod. I'll do this. If they do lighten up on the dub(I meant making less edits and cuts) I believe it can profit them more money to make a unedit and uncut DVD. Right now, One Piece is struggling to it's feet on Toonami so it'll take time to get popluar. I'll sign to help speed that up and get more money to release uncut and unedit OP DVD.

                                                    Actually Joekido…. It's not struggling on Toonami. Infact it's doing really good in there. But we could use that some of the other shows (such as Naruto and Zatch Bell) do just as good and don't have many edits. So toneing down on the editing and localizing wouldn't hurt.

                                                    Everything was all for nothing

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                                                      hell yeah, One Piece is definitely worth fighting for! I would like to write a letter as well, but it may take me a while to come up with something solid enough and not sound like a whiny kid. Where is this petition btw?

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                                                        You received my letter, I take it?

                                                        Signature by Bandit-King

                                                        Halcyon Days

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                                                          possibly, are you the dude?

                                                          _For with a closing door, another surely opens

                                                          Just you wait and see,

                                                          And when you look back on where we've been together

                                                          Wherever you may be

                                                          I hope that you remember me_

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                                                            Zah, I don't like to repeat myself, but I want to say again that linking your cause to illegal activities like fansubs might end up hurting you more than it helps to spread the One Piece goodness. If you secure a meeting with Al Khan, he's not likely to set aside a great deal of time for someone they don't directly intend to sell their product to, or indirectly in the case of parents. He's gonna want you out the door as soon as he can by defeating any arguements you have with a nice blanket statement or counterpoint and try to get the whole thing under his control. Also it's cool you're getting numbers like ratings for areas not controlled by 4kids. I fear that the plight of viewers older than their target audience will go on somewhat softer ears than if we had a bunch of 7-11 year olds telling them they want to see the real or less edited version of One Piece. I'd write a letter myself, but I'm busy with a flood of term tests this week. I'll write one up on the weekend, hopefully without spilling over into one of my diatribes about xenophobia and western culture XD

                                                            Maybe I'm over thinking this whole thing.

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                                                              Well, Sonique is trying her best cuz of her love towards the series and I don't blame her. I believe we should not take Al Khen in an extreme term to get him to understand so what she needs of course is the correct source and a deep thinking to consired the matter. What 4kids need to do is make less edits and less uncut to profit them more money. I'll love to write a letter to give Al a piece of mind but I got to be careful not to metion fansubs and other illagel websites and tell him that we knew the true source and beg him to reduce the editting.

                                                              Al Khen is not techinally stupid, he knew the original One Piece, he just wants to butcher it for the sake of money, we must encourge him to apply to our wish without insulting him. Do not ask for uncut OP on T.V. Dragonball uncut was cancelled due to low rating and OP will face the same thing if Khen puts it like that. Remamber Khen is human so encourge him to change the dubbing policy. If we tell him the source, tell him we knew this from Japanese tankos and Japanese version DVD.

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                                                                Well, Sonique is trying her best cuz of her love towards the series and I don't blame her.

                                                                Well it's not that I don't appreciate her effort, because I do. It's just that I feel like we're leaving ourselves open when we think more with our love for One Piece than with our business heads. I might be defending nothing but I really don't want to seem ungrateful to Sonique.

                                                                You're right about not thinking of Khan as someone who doesn't know what he's doing. It's easy to see how profits would increase if they lessened editing, allowing older audiences to jump onboard and watch the series on CN or wherever, but would they want it? My impression is that they don't want to have anything to do with things outside their target audience. They must have known the kind of audience it has in Japan, but decided to bring it over anyway, and continue to stick by it. They must be happy with it's limited performance, despite falling off 4kids.tv.

                                                                We should be encouraging lesser edits because their target wants it. I feel like I'm repeating myself again, darn.

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                                                                  He's gonna want you out the door as soon as he can by defeating any arguements you have with a nice blanket statement or counterpoint and try to get the whole thing under his control.

                                                                  It'll be like that one episode of Family Guy. I'll be like "Oh Im gonna give him a piece of my mind!"… walk in and then be lke "wow I never thought of it that way." *walks out... "Hey waitaminute!"

                                                                  actually alot of people are telling me about how good Al Kahn is at like speaking and about his charisma and stuff... makes me a little worried but I still plan to go there to do what I intend to do... if that makes any sence

                                                                  Do not ask for uncut OP on T.V. Dragonball uncut was cancelled due to low rating and OP will face the same thing if Khen puts it like that.

                                                                  it was? really… do you have a source on that? How could that have done worse?.. I actually thought it was still showing on some channels... maybe that's the edited version.

                                                                  We should be encouraging lesser edits because their target wants it. I feel like I'm repeating myself again, darn.

                                                                  Well I can do that too, if you read my site I talk about how insulting it is to children to remove Japanese culture things and how PBS will even show religion and such.

                                                                  _For with a closing door, another surely opens

                                                                  Just you wait and see,

                                                                  And when you look back on where we've been together

                                                                  Wherever you may be

                                                                  I hope that you remember me_

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                                                                    If you want to go then go. Be ready and prepared if Khen ends your discussion and get kick out of his office, you might lose case and what would be the point of your journey? That's why you have to prepare for the worst. Just saying this like a friend.

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                                                                      Well I figured if Im polite and stuff he won't kick me out… and maybe I'll bring my mace MUAHAHA

                                                                      as for the point of my journey... well it's an adventure I guess... something I want to do... even if I do get kicked out, I guess, I'll still try and have a good time in NY

                                                                      _For with a closing door, another surely opens

                                                                      Just you wait and see,

                                                                      And when you look back on where we've been together

                                                                      Wherever you may be

                                                                      I hope that you remember me_

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                                                                        Well I figured if Im polite and stuff he won't kick me out

                                                                        Then he'll politely kick you out 👅

                                                                        It's no so much the insulting to children part that should be brought forth, I doubt they care. It's more like targetted growth will happen if they do. We all know that it'll be more awesome and that children will like it more, we just need to prove it somehow and we're in the money. Or they're in the money, something like that.

                                                                        PBS is cool and all by the way, but I think they might pull a "PBS is publicly owned and we have shareholders to appeal to" or something, like I said, they'll try to deflate anything you pull out. If we hammer out a defense now, it'll be all the more easier for you.

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                                                                          Then he'll politely kick you out 👅

                                                                          LOL like "Would you kindly get the hell out of my office, thanks!"

                                                                          I want to talk about how some of the edits don't make sence. Like when Zolo hears a whale… and it's really an iceburg :blink: and how Shanks was all, "only a kid drinks juice!" and what are they all drinking? JUICE! (or did they cut that line?) Oh and how they all know Miss Goldenweek when never having met her a and so on...

                                                                          _For with a closing door, another surely opens

                                                                          Just you wait and see,

                                                                          And when you look back on where we've been together

                                                                          Wherever you may be

                                                                          I hope that you remember me_

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                                                                            Well…. In that episode with Shank's saying to Luffy that only kids drink juice.... They actually subsituted "sake" with "strong stuff" so... It really wasn't that bad.

                                                                            Everything was all for nothing

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                                                                              either way saying only kids drink juice then having Zolo drink juice and having these juice pubs everywhere doesn't make sence

                                                                              _For with a closing door, another surely opens

                                                                              Just you wait and see,

                                                                              And when you look back on where we've been together

                                                                              Wherever you may be

                                                                              I hope that you remember me_

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