Regarding the second buster call…

[Luna-chan]

It occured to me that if Spandam used the Buster Call on the Strawhats where they are now, wouldn't all of Enies Lobby be destroyed too? I'm pretty sure Spandam would have an escape plan but since there's one person who gave him the Golden den den mushi, (Wasn't it AoKiji?), wouldn't that person know it was him? Wouldn't that put Spandam's position in danger, especially if all of CP9 were killed in the buster call? Buster calls are conducted using cannon balls, so it would kill both gov't personnel and pirates alike. Or could the thing he gave spandam be a trap of some sort?

Any theories welcome.

[wolfwood]

just cause he summons the buster call doesnt mean that they just magicaly appear at the site and start blasting away that they would have to gather all five vice admirals who could be anywhere in the grandline and get all 10 ships ready and since the buster call is his last ditch measure he wouldnt use it unless he was totaly screwed which means they had beaten the CP9 and won and by the time the buster call could strike i think the strawhats would be far away from Enias lobby so no i dont think there is any risk of them killing of the the marine and WG personel at the lobby.

[joekido the Second]

Yeah. As Ubig said: "Why do people think the vice-admirals will stupidly fire at Enies Lobby!?"

So there are not going to be any hyper attacks from the BC, the Straw-Hat pirates will be gone by the time I arrives and destorying the BC is not nessessary to win Robin back. It's not the BC she was afried of, it was a fear that her friends would betray her if they find out about the BC.

And guess what? I hope I'm not wrong but Robin is back in the crew again, thanks to Luffy's encouragment to live.

[Darkariel]

That's not at Aka Inu didn't in the flashback (he kill several inocents just in case 1 was a archeologist), if he's the main Buster Call Commander they will shoot Enies Lobby even if there are W.G. officers there

I'm guessing the W.G. probably was more guys like Aka Inu ready to destroy everything just in case…

And I think Buster Call is already on their way to Enies Lobby (since Ao Kiji gave the golden den den mushi to Spandam) just like in the flashback Spandine had the golden den den mushi and Buster Call was on their way to Ohara

Probaly Buster Call won't shot because Spandam won't have a chance to press the button (being knocked out cold by a Nico Robin Clutch or a Franky bite to the head)

[blacky]

This bustercall is different. The one before needed the knowledge of a whole island to disappear completely without any scholar surviving. That's why it was necessary to destroy the whole island including all books and all innocent people.

But if Spandam summons a Bustercall this time, it will be against a small crew of pirates and in this case it would even be enough to kill Luffy and Robin alone to win. Killing like 10000 comrades - when 2 well selected kills would have been sufficient - is so stupid, that even a hardliner like Akainu couldn't ever dare to do so. As it was stated in quite a few times already, it is more likely that those marines including the 5 Vice Admirals will get down from their battleships and pursue the Strawhats directly.

Somehow I don't think that the bustercall is just a large amount of ships which come out from nowhere, burn a whole island to crisp and then disappear again. It is a military strikeforce strong enough to destroy a whole nation, it's what you'll get if the World Government declares war on you. And if Spandam summons bustercall against the Strawhats, these 10 Ships and 5 Vice Admirals will not simply bomb the place where the Golden Den-Den-Mushi was used: They'll follow the Strawhats until they found and killed all of them XD

[Khoga]

I agree, except, i don't think WG would have 10 ships + 5 vice admirals consistantly hunting down Strawhats untill they're killed. That would be a waste of resources. If that's the case, then they should have the worlds largest (group) bounty, higher then the 7 recognized pirates, so important that 10 ships/5 VA's have to hunt them down.

I say, if they get away…they get away, they might have another guy try to follow them, like what smoker's doing though.

[d3adpool]

I don't know… laser's seem pretty heartless... they would destroy the target immediately
[sarcasm off]

Actually i think that when the possibility of having a BusterCall is issued (like when Aokiji gave the Golden DenDenMushi to Spandam) they notice the chosen ViceAdmirals and say "Stay on guard, you could be summoned to a BusterCall anytime now". They then probably assemble in some place and wait, waste of resources damn right but the idea is to assure mission completion. And EnniesLobby is quite close to the Marine HQ (were i assume the BusterCall ships are) wich would make the strike team reach there quickly.

But no, i don't think that they would attack EL as they did with Ohara. After setting a siege on the island they would propably sent some troops onland to deal with the SH. If they fail, in wich case all EL troops would have fallen to the SH, then i see they just blowing the place down. Buildings can be rebuilt.

[SalehMo]

Noticing from what happened in Ohara, I couldn't see the Buster Call severly hitting Enies Lobby since it is part of a government jurisdiction. Still Spandam should be scared he can't control the firepower and could possibly hit him or CP9

[Ubiq]

@d3adpool:

I don't know… laser's seem pretty heartless... they would destroy the target immediately
[sarcasm off]

I still don't know where that notion came from.

They then probably assemble in some place and wait, waste of resources damn right but the idea is to assure mission completion. And EnniesLobby is quite close to the Marine HQ (were i assume the BusterCall ships are) wich would make the strike team reach there quickly.

How wasteful the situation is depends on how many Vice Admirals there are.

If there are only about nine of them or so, five Vice Admirals is a major commitment of resources that might require that bases such as G2 (as well as G3 if that's what the HQ 3 on Garp's sail refers to) lose their commanding officer for an uncertain amount of time. If there are more than that, it's less of an issue. If there are five or more of them at the Naval Headquarters alone, then it's not really an issue.

As far as the ships go, those are battleships and are unlikely to be out roaming the Grand Line anyway.

So it might not be all of that wasteful as far as the Navy's concerned if the resources for a Buster Call task force have to wait a while, especially if the fleet is waiting at the Headquarters itself.

[Paulie]

I can very much see Enies Lobby burning from the fire of a Buster Call.

Why?

Because Spandam thinks that won't happen.

[Bounty1Berry]

I would think an automated BC would be more terrifying. No logic, no remorse.

[sgamer82]

I could almost see the World Government using the Buster Call to their advantage, should it be called upon and destroy Enies Lobby. Luffy and the Straw Hats are already inviting major trouble on themselves with the attack, if Buster Call destroyed Enies Lobby, why not add IT to the list of crimes the Straw Hats are accused of. We already know the WG isn't above using such disasters to their advantage (Sauro's destroying the ships attributed to Robin) it'd be easy to lay waste to EL and blame the SH. Heck, should the Straw Hats escape, it might even be preferable! A completely wasted fortress might get a bit more public sympathy than a half-assed, barely planned, highly improvised attack by a force consisting of little more than sixty people, two giants, and a sumo frog.

[theinvisibleworm]

That's actually a good point. On top of that, gamer, they'd be accused of murdering the captured pirates.

This would be an effective way for the World Government to deal with the strawhats since Luffy and friends would find it hard to have allies on either side of the fence (of course, they already do, but if this happened pirates would probably actively want revenge for their captured comrades).

Plus, then Strawhats would be accused of killing thousands of marines as well, so villagers wouldn't trust them.

[sgamer82]

@theinvisibleworm:

That's actually a good point. On top of that, gamer, they'd be accused of murdering the captured pirates.

Do you mean the 11 "Impartial" Jurors?

[theinvisibleworm]

Oh, you're right. Not that many pirates would die, I always end up confusing impel down with ennies lobby.

[Mr_Wonx]

Now he's a thought on Buster Call - the reason for it is to eradicate anyone who is either a threat or knows too much. With pirates, eradicating thier town wouldn't be effective since they, well, sail in boat. Can't shoot what's not there.

Now suppose they call it, and then try to attack them while leaving, only to have the Strawhats either A. Slip out like they always have, or B. Have a new ship that takes down the attacking ships - What will the marines do?

Unlike the Strawhats, the marines have the ability to backtrack through the Grand-line. That being said, does anyone else think that a buster call would hurt their Friends more then them? I'm thinking Drum, Alabasta, Syrup, Baratie, etc.

If a buster call is called, I could see the series getting a whole lot darker.

[HopelessFollower]

On the wastefulness issue, I don't think it's a big problem. Spandam received the golden den den from Ao Kiji mainly as a bargaining tool to capture Robin which leads me to believe that this happened after he met up with them and determined they were headed towards Water 7. Whether it's wasteful or not, once the den den was given the fleet was probably stationed around that area.

[d3adpool]

@Ubiq:

I still don't know where that notion came from.

When the Buster Call was first mentioned people started speculating what it was. Someone said it was a laser, later was added to the discussion that Luffy's GomuGomu No Fuusen (Baloon) would deflect the laser. I think it's something like this…

[Ubiq]

@Mr_Wonx:

Unlike the Strawhats, the marines have the ability to backtrack through the Grand-line. That being said, does anyone else think that a buster call would hurt their Friends more then them? I'm thinking Drum, Alabasta, Syrup, Baratie, etc.

The World Government can't really afford to destroy this many allies; their situation is tenuous enough as it is. Also, unless the Vice Admirals do most of the work, the size of a target that can be destroyed by a Buster Call is limited to the range of the guns of the battleships. A nation as large as Alabasta is largely safe from one; not just by geographic size, but by the sheer size of it's military. Port towns can be destroyed, but cities in the interior will require that the Navy disembark it's forces and send them inland.

@d3adpool:

When the Buster Call was first mentioned people started
speculating what it was. Someone said it was a laser

See, I still don't get where that comes from as it makes zero sense from a storyline aspect. If the Navy has access to a laser, then how can wooden ships possibly be a threat to them?

[d3adpool]

It's not supposed to make sense. Just to make you laugh. Worked for me.

[blacky]

@sgamer82:

I could almost see the World Government using the Buster Call to their advantage, should it be called upon and destroy Enies Lobby. Luffy and the Straw Hats are already inviting major trouble on themselves with the attack, if Buster Call destroyed Enies Lobby, why not add IT to the list of crimes the Straw Hats are accused of.

Somehow I doubt that the WG would do that. If they ever have to destroy Enies Lobby, they'd definitely say that there was a HUUUGE army attacking… but that alone would be fatal. Unless Spandam does something utterly stupid without the World Government's approval (which is likely) the WG would definitely act as if nothing happened. Remember what happened after Crocodile was defeated? They said that Smoker captured him, not mentioning a single word about the Strawhats because they didn't dare to admit that they needed the help of some pirates...

The world Government represents absolute Justice and Power: They are on top of everything, the whole world's countries force united. If they admit that they were defeated by a single Pirate Crew, that - directly or indirectly - one of their best protected cities with ten-thousands of guards was eradicated by Pirates, then people would begin to doubt the world government's stength. They don't need sympathy.

Just imagine that a group of like 7 criminals enters Fort Knox, defeats like 2000 soldiers, destroys several dozend buildings and in the end the whole base blows up in a nuclear explosion... Now that wouldn't be fun. People would certainly ask themselves what the Army is good for if they can be defeated by such a tiny force XD