Did they ever mention what crew they used to be on? I always thought they said they were on Whitebeard's.
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Random crew probably….
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i think mb is write cause if they where in whitebeard pirates then why should they leave
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Some randoms probably
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Originally posted by TheTalentedMr.Sanji@Mar 8 2005, 09:32 PM
Did they ever mention what crew they used to be on? I always thought they said they were on Whitebeard's.
[snapback]12896[/snapback]Even though Oda seems to plan his story for years in advance, I am not sure that he had Whitebeard already in his mind at that time.
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I agree but Oda could still fit it. And even though if it wasn't Whity's crew it would be nice if the crew has even some relevance. Great man usually has great pupils.
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It's never been said, but given that they seem to know Whitebeard and have a connection to Gold Roger, I'd guess they were in one of those guys' crews. I always thought they were in the G. Roger crew myself…
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Who know´s maybe this random crew fought against the Whitebeard crew long ago and Buggy and Shanks are the only two survirors. I always thought that there must be a very interesting history about how Buggy and Shanks first met Whitebeard. Just a guess.
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Yeah I also thought they were on Whitebeard´s or Gold D. ´s crew! (That´s why I asked you all the question why Buggy knows Whitebeard - it´s in the AP/MANGA section)
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guys ..you guys mention about Shanks writen a letters to Whitebeard?what's the letters about and made Whitebeard became abit mad ..and tear of the paper… what is it...?
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I think it has not been revealed to us the contents of the letters but from the situation my guess it has something to do with some meeting of the pirates. A pirates gathering perhaps.
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Originally posted by Cyclone Keno Joe@Mar 19 2005, 10:49 PM
guys ..you guys mention about Shanks writen a letters to Whitebeard?what's the letters about and made Whitebeard became abit mad ..and tear of the paper… what is it...?
[snapback]17730[/snapback]I don't think Whitebeard even read it as it looked like it was still in the envelope when he torn it up. I don't think Newgate was mad because of the content of the letter, but the mere notion of a letter.
Whitebeard doesn't see Shanks as being important enough to send him a letter; if Shanks wants to contact Whitebeard, then he should come and see him personally, not send some no-name errand boy to deliver a letter.
As to the contents of the letter, Newgate thought that it was probably about Ace and Blackbeard. So maybe Shanks was trying to get a pardon for his brother, so Teach won't be killed by his nephew.
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Yes, I know there's no proof of that, but I still like that idea.
Complicating things since 2009.
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I don't think Whitebeard even read the damn letter… he thinks it's too uncool for him and also we heard what Whitebeard said to Rockstar... he knew Shanks was talking about Ace and Blackbeard.... :lol:
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I wonder when the next time we will get to see all these characters again will be. An update on these people's status' wouldn't be so bad.
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I just like the fact Rockstar's only a rookie with just a mere bounty of 94 million Bellies.
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Yeah, sheesh. Wonder what the total sum of the price of bounties are in that Red Hair crew…
Sorry, I kinda laughed when I read "Bellies".
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Originally posted by Yoska@Mar 20 2005, 12:09 PM
I just like the fact Rockstar's only a rookie with just a mere bounty of 94 million Bellies.
[snapback]17976[/snapback]I like the fact that Whitebeard's crew didn't even have the slightest idea who he was, which suggests that somebody capable of gaining a 94 million berry bounty is well beneath their notice.
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This is just a guess but Shanks maybe worth more than DoFlamingo
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i think your right i think shanks might be like in the top 3 pirates the among him whitebeard and blackbeard
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blackbeard isnt near the top he is not even known yet its probably shanks
whitebeard
dragon (but i doubt dragons a pirate -
Originally posted by Monkey.D.Luffy@Mar 21 2005, 12:42 AM
This is just a guess but Shanks maybe worth more than DoFlamingo
[snapback]18379[/snapback]DUH Doflamingo has no bounty :rolleyes:
guys ..you guys mention about Shanks writen a letters to Whitebeard?what's the letters about and made Whitebeard became abit mad ..and tear of the paper… what is it...?
I think Shanks wants to meet with Whitebeard to talk about the government and make an alliance.
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doflamingo did have one, i have a feeling shanks will kill doflamingo
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Originally posted by lucciano_minhawk@Mar 22 2005, 01:12 AM
doflamingo did have one,Yes, but that bounty is somewhat irrelevant as that was simply where it was before the Government gave up fighting him and offered Donquixote a role as a Shichibukai. Had he not accepted, then it would have been considerably higher.
Also, bounties are not necessarily representative of high strong somebody is. The bounty on Foxy is only 24 million after all, but he gave Luffy considerably more trouble than Bellamy, whose bounty was over twice as high as Foxy's.
i have a feeling shanks will kill doflamingo
[snapback]18876[/snapback]I lean towards him being taken down by Luffy myself.
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Originally posted by Yoska@Mar 20 2005, 05:09 PM
I just like the fact Rockstar's only a rookie with just a mere bounty of 94 million Bellies.
[snapback]17976[/snapback]Is it just me, or does Rockstar somehow bear a striking resemblance to the legendary Sid Vicious of the Sex Pistols? (yeah, well..except for his hair color…but his facial expressions along with the haircut sure do remind me of him)
Just asking because it was the first thing that came into my mind while reading issue no. 25.
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hahahahahahah true…
luffys a rookie and has 100,000,000 B -
I don't know whether this topic has been brought up or not. If it is, close this.
Shanks and Buggy are led by the same captain before they left to form their own pirate groups.
Shanks and Buggy might be White Beard's subordinates who left shortly after the Buggy's flashback to gather their own pirate group.
In the flashback, they got Buggy's Devil Fruit from an enemy ship. Devil Fruits are extremely rare to come by. A pirate ship having it means that it should have a great power to come by the source of Devil Fruits, if not, there will be too many people in OP world to have Devil Fruits. Buggy and Shanks' ship defeated the enemy ship and got the Devil Fruit. There seems to be minor or no injury/casualities in the ship. It means Buggy/Shank's crews are very powerful, like White Beard.
White Beard said "brings back memories" and "that kid", when he heard Shanks' name. Shanks said "that old man still haven't changed" when he knew WhiteBeard tore away the letter. Buggy seems to be very clear of White Beard's character that he doesn't spare people who murders his crewmembers and Buggy said to Alvida that he "met him on the Grand Line." To get that close with the most powerful man in the world to an extent that they call him "old man" and know very well of his character, they must be the former crew members of White Beard's ship.
Those lines suggest that they probably didn't contact each other at all since they left the ship.
I just reread vol. 1 yesterday. I wonder why Ace never appears with Luffy when Shanks was in their hometown.
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Very possable. I actually havent thought about who was their captian when they were on the same ship. what you said makes a lot of sense, hope ur right
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Nobody knows what happened to Ace but it was only a couple of days in the Flashback for Luffy so you can say that Ace was either already becoming a pirate or he was somewhere else at the time, its not a big mystery since it was only a short couple of days and not a couple of years.
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Impossible. Buggy only said that he "met" WhiteBeard the last time he was on the grandline. That's a far cry from "being in his crew," and if he was part of the WB crew he would have to say something different.
We've had discussions about the identity of Buggy and Shank's old captain, but no one had ever proposed WhiteBeard as a possible candidate.
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I agree with Butter, Whitebeard is their old captain. Good show.
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It's the most probably theory thus far, but i personally don't think Oda has decided yet, i mean thus far we've only met two of the Great Pirates, there's bound to be more than that, right?
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I don't know if I agree that buggy and shanks met when they were on whitebeard's crew, based on the fact that buggy seemed to only be speaking of a very general knowledge, rather than intimate understanding (that's not meant to be as dirty as it sounds). I have this personal idea that shanks' is actually related to whitebeard, but it's a little contrived and not really based on anything other than their one "interaction" via rockstar. It would explain why shanks isn't scared of him at all and why whitebeard felt it was so impertinent that shanks couldn't be bothered to see him in person.
At any rate, Shanks and Whitebeard have some kind of mutual history or something.
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hey jeeto, that's a good idea, i can imagine it now
whitebeard crew: it's shanks
shanks: dadddddddddddd!xD
seriously it's such a twisted idea, it's good.
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probably a reason that Shanks and Luffy have this great connection with each other?
Whitebeard=Shanks
Gol D. Roger= Luffy
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I think Buggy and Shanks both served under Whitebeard as well. I mean the last time we saw Buggy he was talking about Whitebeard. If there is no connection then why even show that? Hell, why even keep Buggy around?
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I said this awhile back. I would look for the post if I could remember what topic it was that I stated it in.
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I don think so, i thought the captain does appears in Buggys flashback, the scene that Buggy ate the fake fruit.
Buggy said he met, not the he was in his crew.
What about the ship in the flashback, too small for Whitebeard, and the nurses?You want me to show magic?
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I don think so, i thought the captain does appears in Buggys flashback, the scene that Buggy ate the fake fruit.
Buggy said he met, not the he was in his crew.
What about the ship in the flashback, too small for Whitebeard, and the nurses?the captain didn't appear in the ship, i am quite sure of that.
its over 10 years. a wooden ship cannot last that long. whitebeard could have gain more power and upgrade his ship. i dont think whitebeard wants 10+ year old girls catering to his old body.
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yeah i don't think they showed the captain of their crew. but buggy mentions to alvida that he met whitebeard on his very first voyage to the grand line. now this implies that buggy was young, but not as young as he was in the flashback (he looked like he was 10!).
but it wouldn't surprise me at all if shanks had previously been involved with the whitebeard pirates in some way.- shanks could've been in whitebeard's crew
- shanks could be related to whitebeard
- they've met before and whitebeard respects shanks' strength and ideals towards pirating and his crew.
i'm leaning towards the mutual respect thing, but it's really anyone's guess
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I think if Buggy was in White beard's crew than he would of bragged on and on about it at the beginning of One Piece.
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I think if Buggy was in White beard's crew than he would of bragged on and on about it at the beginning of One Piece.
Oda probably had not came up yet with the concept of White'stache back when Buggy was first introduced. The same thing with Ace and why he wasn't seen with Luffy in the beginning. Now, I really like the idea of Buggy and Shanks once being subordinates of Whity, it's not a new idea, and I think it could still be made fit into the story line with easy if that's what Oda wants. At least I want to see them battling in the same side at some point.
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I used to think that too, but it was before I joined the site. Are any more of Whitebeard's subordinates shown in the series other than himself, Ace, and the nurses…? Because on the ship where Buggy and Shanks sailed on, the captain had a stache-less beard and wore glasses. Maybe it was the commander of the "First Division".
Also, if anyone has a pic of the flag, that would help a lot.
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Honestly i think it'd make the story just a little too incestrial, i' like to know that the story is a little bit more open than everything revolving around ultimately and neatly one character 20 years ago and the history in which he had.
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I don't think Whitebeard even read it as it looked like it was still in the envelope when he torn it up. I don't think Newgate was mad because of the content of the letter, but the mere notion of a letter.
Whitebeard doesn't see Shanks as being important enough to send him a letter; if Shanks wants to contact Whitebeard, then he should come and see him personally, not send some no-name errand boy to deliver a letter.
As to the contents of the letter, Newgate thought that it was probably about Ace and Blackbeard. So maybe Shanks was trying to get a pardon for his brother, so Teach won't be killed by his nephew.
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Yes, I know there's no proof of that, but I still like that idea.
that has to be the craziest most out there theory i've ever read (ever being in the past 24 hours).
This is just a guess but Shanks maybe worth more than DoFlamingo
anything but would be a huge disappointment.
@lucciano_minhawk:
…i have a feeling shanks will kill doflamingo
this post alone made me bump the thread as i think it's an awesome angle, DonQuixote considered the new great threat from the mugiwara fans point of view, we know he has a devious plan, we know that he's a threat, we know him quite well and yet to be dispeasersed of off-screen. i'm so totally in love with the idea of Shanks taking out a Shichibuiki before us. i'm really excited by this.
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well, my thought hasn't change yet…Same as StrawHatLuffy en Jacobo..I think Shanks planned to have a pirates gathering en somehow this is related with fighting the WG....since you guys know everyone that chasing OP will end up with Poneglpyh en the mystery of ancient nations..
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i actually think the letter was blank with Shanks knowing that Newgate would never have read it.
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if the letter was about blackbeard and ace then those two must be related in a big way and shanks must also be related to them for him to even want to talk about it. hell whitebeard ripped up the letter and that shows that he could careless what shanks had to say. he probably doesn't care if there is a relation between ace and blackbeard and shanks must have some connection to them to bother sending one of his men on a dangerous trip to deliver a letter to whitebeard.
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They're both D's. I think that's relation enough. Shanks probably knows something about the D's and is worried about the ramifications killing Teach would have. Worst case scenario, Ace and Teach kill each other and the world loses two D's.
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I think it has to do with the "D" thing as well, since Ace and Blackbeard are both of the "D" bloodline, whatever that means. It might have to do with Shanks not wanting two D's to kill each other, or for one D to kill another D.
My personal theory holds that perhaps only someone with the blood of D can make it to Raftel, which might be why Ace is Whitebeard's second. He might have had Teach on his crew as backup. Whitebeard IS closest to being the Pirate King. I have a feeling we won't find out what they're talking about until this "Pirates' Summit" thing, though. Which I desperately hope is in the next storyarc.
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I think Luffy will stop Ace and Blackbeard from killing each other, mid-fight.
It's almost ironic that Ace didn't stick with Luffy, he would have caught Blackbeard much faster.
Regardless, Ace is following blackbeard, and blackbeard is following Luffy.
Family reunion?
