We know that the Straw-hat crew has many enemies. And they leave many behind without dealing with them.
For example. They will have to face the Marines eventually. Aokiji, Smoker, Tashigi. All of them. How they will deal with it? I don't know. but share your thoughts.
One more example; What will Luffy do When Buggy, Alvida, and their crew catch up with them?
Ignore them.
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they leave a lot of buisness unfinished. I thought captain kuro was dead, but later in the anime, they show a quick scene of him sailing in a boat. That means, he's gonna come back too. (sorry, haven't read the manga)
And then there is that whole thing with Dragon, the black-beard pirates, They kind of left the whole thing with Ace open, and Luffy has to meet his dad…
Buggy said he would go after Luffy once he got a bigger bounty. And once Luffy gets a hugh increase in his bounty, Buggy's probably going to rush to find him.
Which undoughtfully will be when Enies Lobby finishes.
I would like to see Luffy ignore Buggy but send Usopp to go into attack mode and completely defeat Buggy,Mohiji and Cabaji.
It would be good to see Usopps growth with his weapons and bravery.
I don't really think the small fry from previous arks will be making any noteworthy appearance. Blackbeard, Mihawk, Ace, Smoker, Dragon, Aokiji for sure, but i don't see most of the others appearing. Maybe as secondary characters in a larger ark - the "pirate summit" for example, whatever that is. I can't really see Luffy walking around with his 300 000 000 bounty and Buggy actually challenging him. Plus we still have many new enemies to come, Shichbukai, Marines and Pirates alike and there really isn't enough time or reason to focus on old guys.
I'd like to see Buggy return. I'm not really sure why, but I view him as a possible rival to Luffy. Perhaps it's because out of everything I've seen and read, Buggy is the only pirate interested in One Piece and still "active" after being beaten by Luffy. I was disappointed in Logue Town when the two groups met up but didn't fight. With the changes to their crew I'd like to see another battle.
Remember people, this is the grand line, and buggy is getting stronger. I think he and luffy will fight again.
Buggy's entire crew can come at Luffy at once and still get knocked on their asses.
Originally Posted by Battle Franky
Bad move, bub!
Buggy's entire crew can come at Luffy at once and still get knocked on their asses.
There is no basis for that statment. Lluffy wasn't exactly owning buggy when **they fought. And Buggy has been on the grand line for around the same time as luffy.
And perhaps Buggy isn't as strong as luffy. but I don't see how luffy would be able to take them all on at once. Unless they havn't been in a single fight since entering the pirates graveyard, which is unlikley**
Buggy works best IMO as a running gag, showing up after a couple arcs with another futile plan… like Wile E. Coyote....
Buggy works best IMO as a running gag, showing up after a couple arcs with another futile plan… like Wile E. Coyote....
**I agree. But I seriously doubt that luffy would be able to take on buggys entire crew byhimself with no effort.
He might not be as strong as luffy, but why would he still be that weak?**
Buggy will problably be stronger if he meets up with Luffy and the rest but Luffy also got stronger with the whole gear thing so I agree with Buccaneer Luffy would kick Buggy's crew butt alone
I agree I also can't see Mohiji even standing a chance against Zoro I can honestly say that Zoro when it comes to fights wouldn't be as joking as Luffy if they fought again cause he'll swing that sword to kill.
And if Cabaji and Richie fight Chopper more likely Chopper will end up friends with Richie after a couple of small conversations.
Buggy works best IMO as a running gag, showing up after a couple arcs with another futile plan… like Wile E. Coyote....
I was thinking the same thing, cept I imagined Buggy's crew more like Team Rocket.
@Octogon:
There is no basis for that statment. Lluffy wasn't exactly owning buggy when **they fought. And Buggy has been on the grand line for around the same time as luffy.
And perhaps Buggy isn't as strong as luffy. but I don't see how luffy would be able to take them all on at once. Unless they havn't been in a single fight since entering the pirates graveyard, which is unlikley**
There is a basis. Buggy is nearing 40, and is only on the Grandline now because he got knocked out of Eastblue…by Luffy. Like you, Buggy would probably say something like it wasn't an all out fight, but the fact remains that Luffy was only scratched.
So he wasn't that good last time we saw him. Mohji/Richie suck ass and Cabaji isn't very good. Alvida would probably die from a straight shot. The no names aren't worth a damn. Now remember, Luffy has something better than Gear 2.
Besides fighting strength, Buggy is just a joke. Like I said, he's only on the Grandline because he got put there. His goal is Luffy. Not too bad, but Luffy's goal is to be the biggest pirate in the world. Aim high, get higher.
@Octogon:
There is no basis for that statment. Lluffy wasn't exactly owning buggy when they fought. And Buggy has been on the grand line for around the same time as luffy.
And perhaps Buggy isn't as strong as luffy. but I don't see how luffy would be able to take them all on at once. Unless they havn't been in a single fight since entering the pirates graveyard, which is unlikley
Actually there is basis for that statement. Just think back at how easily Smoker owned the entire crew alltogether back in Loguetown with zero effort. True he didn´t beat them up but he owned them none the less.
There actually isn´t any back up for the idea that Buggy is getting stronger. The only guys he beat up was the weak Kumate Tribe that wanted to eat his crew aswell as the mine workers from chapter 233. That was all just weakling. We haven´t seen him take down any strong dudes to back up that he´s getting stronger. Making progress on the Grand Line doesn´t mean that he gets stronger because if he really is following Luffy, then he´s following a route on which the strong guys are already be taken care of by the Strawhats so Buggy doesn´t face the big obstacles actually.
is buggy really traveling in the same route as luffy and crew ?
i thought he didnt know where Luffy was til he met Ace so he could really have been any where on the grandline (thought it was a while since i read that chap so my memory might be playing tricks on me),
and i think Buggy is getting stronger i mean i think its pretty much impossible to go about pirating in the Grand line without improving.
but im sure that he will find Luffy and challenge him no matter how high his bounty has gotten or how strong he has gotten cause if nothing else Buggy is fricking dedicated to his goal (and yeah he probably will get his ass kicked but so what).
is buggy really traveling in the same route as luffy and crew ?
i thought he didnt know where Luffy was til he met Ace so he could really have been any where on the grandline (thought it was a while since i read that chap so my memory might be playing tricks on me),
It´s not clear whether or not he´s following the same route. He was seen on an island Luffy didn´t go to. However it can´t be ruled out that this is an island that got skipped by the Strawhats on their route eversince they used that Eternal Pose from Little Garden.
Buggy is lacking one component to have an equal growth in strength as Luffy, is the spear inside Zeff was talking about. Luffy has the heart, desire and determination within himself to surpass anybody that stands in his way. When Ace mentioned Whitebeard Luffy just said that he would be another guy who´s ass he´s going to kick.
Buggy on the other hand said that one should never touch the Whitebeard Pirates because the captain himself is a monster. With such an attitude he can never grow to the extends like the Strawhats.
but if it was so that he was on a diffrent route than the strawhats would it be possible for him to crossover to one of the other routes or would he have to sail to the end before he can meet up with luffy:molly:
and that buggy doesnt have what it takes to be the pirate king i cant argue with cause its true but that hes grown good enough to pose a decent threat to luffy isnt impossible to me (if not directly with just his fighting strength then with the same kinda of ambush they nearly succesfuly used in Logue town)
Buggy works best IMO as a running gag, showing up after a couple arcs with another futile plan… like Wile E. Coyote....
Heheheh… I now have the mental image of Buggy using various ACME inventions against Luffy and failing miserably each time... "Aargh! Foiled again!"
The main upcoming problems I see is the whole world's government constantly chasing them, for what they did at EL and trying to apprehend Franky (you know he's joining >.>) and Robin. It's going to be seriously different from East Blue. Luffy isn't a nobody anymore.
i can't remember that at all.
Well that quote was from the anime. In Stephen he says exactly the same thing as on this page. Here´s the script for chapter 159.
but if it was so that he was on a diffrent route than the strawhats would it be possible for him to crossover to one of the other routes or would he have to sail to the end before he can meet up with luffy:molly:
If he has an Eternal Pose that points to an island from another route then he could change it.
From all what we know, it appears that this is exactly what happened to Smoker. He met Mr. 11 on a different island then Whiskey Peak. Which means he took a different route. But once he got the Eternal Pose to Arabasta his Log Pose must have adapted the new route.
As far as Buggy is concerned, even without an Eternal Pose there´s still the luck factor that could make him change routes if he had too.
and that buggy doesnt have what it takes to be the pirate king i cant argue with cause its true but that hes grown good enough to pose a decent threat to luffy isnt impossible to me (if not directly with just his fighting strength then with the same kinda of ambush they nearly succesfuly used in Logue town)
Ok that´s for sleezy tactics. But I thought the point here was that he could directly confront him in a fight and be a serious threat to Luffy which I don´t see happening. Luffy grew in too many awesome ways that it would be weird if a dumbass like Buggy could follow that example. He doesn´t have what it takes to experience such growth´s.
Ok that´s for sleezy tactics. But I thought the point here was that he could directly confront him in a fight and be a serious threat to Luffy which I don´t see happening. Luffy grew in too many awesome ways that it would be weird if a dumbass like Buggy could follow that example. He doesn´t have what it takes to experience such growth´s.
no atleast not what i was getting at im thinking if he clearly is that much stronger then it wouldnt be very clever to fight fair would it(not that Buggy ever fights fair) and that he would probably use some underhanded trick or ambush and thus pose a decent threat.
and yeah really doesnt sound to likely that Buggy has evolved in the same way as luffy unless his desire to beat Luffy made him work his ass off in preparation for the fight but that just doesnt sound like buggy:laugh:
Ok that´s for sleezy tactics. But I thought the point here was that he could directly confront him in a fight and be a serious threat to Luffy which I don´t see happening. Luffy grew in too many awesome ways that it would be weird if a dumbass like Buggy could follow that example. He doesn´t have what it takes to experience such growth´s.
Not a serious problem but a problem none the less. I have no doubt that luffy would be able to beat him. But some people think he would be owned with no effort. That, to me, sounds redicilius. I do think he will cause some trouble near the end. Not enoughf for luffy to exert himself to the max, but he's not gonna be abe to beat buggy without effort.
@Octogon:
Not a serious problem but a problem none the less. I have no doubt that luffy would be able to beat him. But some people think he would be owned with no effort. That, to me, sounds redicilius. I do think he will cause some trouble near the end. Not enoughf for luffy to exert himself to the max, but he's not gonna be abe to beat buggy without effort.
Well to me it´s not ridiculous at all if he would be owned with no effort. Bellamy´s effortless ownage immediately popps into my mind. So far I haven´t seen Luffy seperating his head so if Luffy punches him right in the face as Bellamy he´s owned with no effort.
Don´t forget that Luffy is much stronger AND much faster now. I really don´t see Buggy to become able to dodge a Gear 2nd Gomu Gomu no Pistol. He couldn´t keep track of the move because of the speed. PWNAGE!!!
Well to me it´s not ridiculous at all if he would be owned with no effort. Just think back of Bellamy. So far I haven´t seen Luffy seperating his head so if Luffy punches him right in the face as Bellamy he´s owned with no effort.
**Not really. We don't know how much he's improved. And bellamy really had no background. His only real purpose was to further introduce DonFlamingo. But in east blue buggy was about even with ffy. And he has been travvleing on the grand line, Oda is keeping him in the story for some reason. I have little doubt that he would be able to put up a small fight against luffy.
Kinda like when luffy fought Galley-La. they were owning him, even though the majority were much weaker than him. Exept in the buggy fight he would be putting forth a little bit more effort.**
Don´t forget that Luffy is much stronger AND much faster now. I really don´t see Buggy to become able to dodge a Gear 2nd Gomu Gomu no Pistol. He couldn´t keep track of the move because of the speed. PWNAGE!!!
**Well Buggy has probaley gotten faster and stronger too. Up to the level where he can fight him for a while, but in a few minutes lufy owns him.
Meh, I guess it's all a matter of opinion.**
@Octogon:
Not really. We don't know how much he's improved. And bellamy really had no background. His only real purpose was to further introduce DonFlamingo. But in east blue buggy was about even with ffy. And he has been travvleing on the grand line, Oda is keeping him in the story for some reason. I have little doubt that he would be able to put up a small fight against luffy.
Bellamy was strong enough to easily rape Rosshio who had a bounty of 42.000.000 Berries on his head. Other then that he easily owned Cricket, Shojo (36.000.000 Berries bounty) and Masira (26.000.000 Berries bounty) at the same time. True Sarquiss did also some fighting there. But seeing it as how Sarquis looks up to Bellamy he must know that Bellamy is stronger then himself.
So all in all the bounty of 55.000.000 Berries on his head seems pretty much justified for Bellamy. And he in fact beat up much more strong guys then we ever see Buggy do.
Kinda like when luffy fought Galley-La. they were owning him, even though the majority were much weaker than him. Exept in the buggy fight he would be putting forth a little bit more effort.
This fight can´t actually be used as an indicator for nothing. Luffy simply didn´t want to fight them, that´s why they owned them. End of story.
Well Buggy has probaley gotten faster and stronger too. Up to the level where he can fight him for a while, but in a few minutes lufy owns him.
Meh, I guess it's all a matter of opinion.
Saying that he´s gotten stronger with no back up is just an assumption and is neither more nor lesser valid then when I say he probably didn´t get faster and stronger.
Plus saying that he would get fast and strong enough to see a Gear 2nd Pistol coming is saying that he will get stronger then Blueno. I mean even Enel couldn´t dodge the final blow because it was literally to fast but Buggy reaching the level of dodging a Gear 2nd move is ridiculous.
The only plausible explenation would be to say Buggy´s determination made him surpass his weaknesses in a great matter. And if a random dumbass like Buggy could do it, then this style of growth would lose it´s exclusiveness and status it has because it is reserved for only the protagonists so far.
ill just say that in my eyes Buggy is stronger than Bellamy cause he withstood far more punishment than the wuss who fainted from one singel punch and put up a much better fight than afore mentioned wuss.
and i suppose it could be possible that his determination to beat luffy helped him overcome his limitations ala Zoro (ill hold out my stand point on this til we see if spandam has become a skilled fighter if he has ill consider it highly possible since they are equaly goofy characters^^ and if not then ill just stick with my ambush/cheap trick idea)
ill just say that in my eyes Buggy is stronger than Bellamy cause he withstood far more punishment than the wuss who fainted from one singel punch and put up a much better fight than afore mentioned wuss.
What far more punishment did he withstood? Buggy mostly dodged Luffy´s attacks. When Luffy kicked his balls it didn´t seem as if he was releasing all his anger like when he did it by punching Bellamy. The intensities on that blows are completely different.
The blow Bellamy received is in terms of intensity equal to the final blows Arlong, Crocodile and Enel received, which all where enough to break stuff like Arlong Park, buildings from Arbana or to knock a gigantic golden bell from a cloud. He was just as angry in that situation, wheras he just delivered what seems to be a lazy kick against Buggy´s testicles.
And the final strike against Buggy was Bazooka. He didn´t seem pretty angry back then either. In fact he was smiling. By my book a smiling Luffy definitely does not release as much anger in a fight as a pissed of "even if I die I´ll defeat you" Luffy.
Plus we actually never saw how long it took Buggy to recover from that strike. So there´s actually no real evidence to say that Buggy withstood more punishment then Bellamy. Not to mention that we´re talking about two Luffy´s with two different strenght levels here already.
and i suppose it could be possible that his determination to beat luffy helped him overcome his limitations ala Zoro (ill hold out my stand point on this til we see if spandam has become a skilled fighter if he has ill consider it highly possible since they are equaly goofy characters^^ and if not then ill just stick with my ambush/cheap trick idea)
As I said, I would be really disappointed if every random dork could grow as the Strawhats. It would take away the protagonist exclusiveness.
he took 2 face blows and one Kick to the face and one gut punch plus one kick to the most holy area and still stood up and fought thus i consider that he was able to take more punishment than the one blow failiure but thats just me,
and yes he was pissed off if you remember buggy badmouthed shanks and spat on his hat and pierced it with his knife.
Bellamy was pinned by that punch at a high speed. I don't know shit about physics but I can still tell you it's not nearly the same.
Heheheh… I now have the mental image of Buggy using various ACME inventions against Luffy and failing miserably each time... "Aargh! Foiled again!"
The main upcoming problems I see is the whole world's government constantly chasing them, for what they did at EL and trying to apprehend Franky (you know he's joining >.>) and Robin. It's going to be seriously different from East Blue. Luffy isn't a nobody anymore.
I think though, the WG is as much at the mercy of the Grand Line as the Strawhats.
The Strawhats are on their way to the most remote, most untrafficed part of the sea.
For any foe that's not already in their path to get in their path, he has to:
-Make a "lateral" move from another path through the GL. Iffy, due to no clear navigation path.
-Find the Strawhats "trapped", say the next island is x days away from Enies Lobby, and requires a y-day logging, if x <y, a="" marine="" force="" can="" pick="" up="" ground="" on="" the="" strawhats.<br="">-Follow their path, but faster. Again, they're still hindred by logging time, but the overall trip time can be shorter so they can catch up to the Strawhats.</y,>
Well that quote was from the anime. In Stephen he says exactly the same thing as on this page. Here´s the script for chapter 159.
ah, thanks for that, indeed, i knew luffy said he'd gonna fight him but i couldn't remember him saying "i'll kick his ass"
so it was an-anime sentence…
your links to the scripts and the pages are always ressourceful
Personally, I'm really looking forward to what they might encounter on the Red Line. Another Shichibukai, perhaps?
oh and yesterday, when i was in my bed, thinking about one piece (:blink: ) i thought that i'd die to see the whitebeard's flashback about his draw against the pirate king in a fight. that might be something incredible.
he took 2 face blows and one Kick to the face and one gut punch plus one kick to the most holy area and still stood up and fought thus i consider that he was able to take more punishment than the one blow failiure but thats just me,
and yes he was pissed off if you remember buggy badmouthed shanks and spat on his hat and pierced it with his knife.
I´m not saying he wasn´t pissed, but he definitely didn´t release the same anger on him then he released on Arlong, Crocodile or Bellamy. Just compare the expressions. Expression before the final strike against Arlong, Crocodile and Bellamy and then just compare it to expression during his final strike against Buggy (he was even laughing on the previous page).
He definitely didn´t release the same anger on Buggy as he did on the other guys. The only difference between Arlong and Crocodile to Bellamy is that for Bellamy the first blow was the final blow. Other then that it is the same anger that boosts his power exponentially in a fight.
And lets not forget that Luffy was still a rookie back then. He wasn´t even half experienced in a real fights as he was when he fought Bellamy.
ah, thanks for that, indeed, i knew luffy said he'd gonna fight him but i couldn't remember him saying "i'll kick his ass"
so it was an-anime sentence…
I just checked episode 95 and it appears I was mistaken. He didn´t make that ass kicking statement after all. Sorry for the confusion. 
I´m not saying he wasn´t pissed, but he definitely didn´t release the same anger on him then he released on Arlong, Crocodile or Bellamy. Just compare the expressions. Expression before the final strike against Arlong, Crocodile and Bellamy and then just compare it to expression during his final strike against Buggy (he was even laughing on the previous page).
god, Ivotas, how do you remember all these chapters? i spent 20 min looking for luffy kickin' croco's ass but couldn't find it on msn groups. do you have some kind of memo sheet, like,
luffy vs vilain #x -> chapter xxx, vol xx?
(hey, that would be interesting to have one on AP)
btw, yesterday, on msngroupsv3, i just could reach the first chapter of each volume and nothing else. am i stupid, was it fucked up or is firefox not very compatible with msn groups? (i think the right answer is the first one, but who knows…)
I just checked episode 95 and it appears I was mistaken. He didn´t make that ass kicking statement after all. Sorry for the confusion.
i think i'll survive that.
I´m not saying he wasn´t pissed, but he definitely didn´t release the same anger on him then he released on Arlong, Crocodile or Bellamy. Just compare the expressions. Expression before the final strike against Arlong, Crocodile and Bellamy and then just compare it to expression during his final strike against Buggy (he was even laughing on the previous page).
He definitely didn´t release the same anger on Buggy as he did on the other guys. The only difference between Arlong and Crocodile to Bellamy is that for Bellamy the first blow was the final blow. Other then that it is the same anger that boosts his power exponentially in a fight.
And lets not forget that Luffy was still a rookie back then. He wasn´t even half experienced in a real fights as he was when he fought Bellamy.
maybe not as experienced but i doubt that his strength level has grown so a punch from the more inexperinced luffy would still hurt as much me thinks.
and im seriously thinking that neither arlong, Croc or even buggy for that matter(christ that little clown was even struck by lightning and was up and running in a minute or two:laugh:) would have been knocked out just by that final punch alone yes they would have felt it yes they would probably cough up blood or something but i just cant see any of those guys faint from one punch,
and when buc started talking about speed i got to thinking and i got a little idea growing and that is that i dont think it was the actualy punch itself that was so strong i think its more like bellamy knocked himself out i mean the moron flings himself at superhigh speed straight into his fist(either that or hes just an Uber wuss).
either way Bellamy is a bad fighter in my eyes and a weak one on top of that.
god, Ivotas, how do you remember all these chapters? i spent 20 min looking for luffy kickin' croco's ass but couldn't find it on msn groups. do you have some kind of memo sheet, like,
luffy vs vilain #x -> chapter xxx, vol xx?
No no no, it´s not that big of a trick. I just remember in the rough outline of what happened when and then I check the manga for to find it. It´s much easier if you have all the volumes saved on the hard drive. For instance the Arlong thing. It´s clear that this scene took place somewhere in the end of the Arlong arc and since I memorize that chapter 100 with Dragon in it is the first chapter of Volume 12 it is clear that what I´m looking for is somwhere down the middle of volume 11. Then I just have to find the chapter where Arlong gets defeated and the page in question isn´t that far away.
The same method works for everything else. You see, it´s not that much of a great skill anyways.
(hey, that would be interesting to have one on AP)
Good idea. I think this could be an interesting section for the main site. When I´m not that pumped up with work for uni I`ll probably include this stuff, though I have finish my whole "The One Piece World" stuff first. I mainly just put up the rough outline but not the decent info I wanted to establish there.
btw, yesterday, on msngroupsv3, i just could reach the first chapter of each volume and nothing else. am i stupid, was it fucked up or is firefox not very compatible with msn groups? (i think the right answer is the first one, but who knows…)
Nope, its not just firefox. The MSN site is really fucked up by itself. You won´t believe how many times I had to open go back and forth again just to get to the pages with the images I needed. I was affraid that I would hammer that site with me constantly hitting the refresh button.
either way Bellamy is a bad fighter in my eyes and a weak one on top of that.
The point stands that Bellamy still defeated stronger guys then Buggy.
Buggy has defeated Kumate Tribe weaklings and mine workers. Big deal.
Bellamy has defeated Rosshio, Cricket and Shojo who all have a much higher bounty then Buggy.
True he flew straight to Luffy´s fist. But the same technique was more then enough to rape 42.000.000 Rosshio. The idiotic part was to think that Luffy isn´t a 100.000.000er.
and higher bounty always means stronger fighter right ?
and sure we havent seen buggy fight against anyone strong cept luffy against whom he held his own til the very end of the fight when they ganged up on him and that should really account for something since bellamy couldnt even fight with him for a minute before getting knocked out hell he couldnt even scratch him.
and higher bounty always means stronger fighter right ?
Not always but there can´t be that much glitches about it to have all of them be weaker then Buggy.
Plus we´ve seen what damage Bellamy can do to the surroundings when he´s performing his moves. He broke Going Merry and damaged some of the buildings in MockTown which proves that he must be pretty strong. I haven´t seen Buggy being able to do that much damage with his body himself.
sure bellamy rules at the breaking useless stuff in the surronding that thing bellamy can do better than buggy hell hes great at it
but having good offensive powers and seemingly lacking anykind of fighting skills(his attacks all consist of him bouncing around the place like a moron) plus a weak body that doesnt seem to take punishment very well all those things kinda makes him a bad fighter one on one me thinks.
and on a totaly unrelated notion god how i missed arguing back and forth on this board:happy:
sure bellamy rules at the breaking useless stuff in the surronding that thing bellamy can do better than buggy hell hes great at it
Well it´s much more then what Buggy could wreck with his powers.
but having good offensive powers and seemingly lacking anykind of fighting skills(his attacks all consist of him bouncing around the place like a moron) plus a weak body that doesnt seem to take punishment very well all those things kinda makes him a bad fighter one on one me thinks.
I disagree. If he would have a weak body he couldn´t have crushed all that stuff and would be crying around that he broke his bones by hitting solid stuff. Only a strong body can crush stone without easily without being hurt.
and on a totaly unrelated notion god how i missed arguing back and forth on this board:happy:
Yeah, I wondered what happened to you a while ago.
probably a whole lot more than he could break but then again buggys main strength never was his brute strength nor his destructive capabilites,
if hes doesnt have a weak body then hes gotta have one helluva glass jaw:laugh:
ah well i didnt have much time for any arguing since i was drowning in school work and most of the incredibly limited spare time was spent with my friends and gals but now its easying up abit so can argue one more
probably a whole lot more than he could break but then again buggys main strength never was his brute strength nor his destructive capabilites,
It wasn´t about who is better in terms of brute strenght. What I said was to make a point for Bellamy having a strong body.
And if Buggy is weaker then Bellamy then he actually takes the same puncht even a lot worse then Bellamy.
what i said was that buggy main powers werent his destructive capabilites or brute offensive strenght but that doesnt mean that his defense and his abilite to take punishment I.e his stamina is bad they are completly unrelated and shouldnt be confused with each other me thinks,
i mean who ever is able to deal the most damage doesnt neccesarily have to be able to take the same kinda punishment cause hes lacking the stamina for that.
Buggy from what ive seen seems to be able to take plenty of punishment(lots of punches and kicks from Luffy and even a lightning bolt in the noggin survived being shot at with a buggy ball etc) and recovered quickly whilst bellamy on the other hand ah well you know what im getting at dont ya^^.
Well I don't know about Buggy. I'm just waiting ro get more Info On how Whitebeard and And shanks are planning on Joining crews. (At Least I think I read that) I could actually care less about buggy. I REALLY want to See Pirates Summit, plus more info on Whitebeard, Shanks, Ace, and Blackbeard.
Buggy from what ive seen seems to be able to take plenty of punishment(lots of punches and kicks from Luffy and even a lightning bolt in the noggin survived being shot at with a buggy ball etc) and recovered quickly whilst bellamy on the other hand ah well you know what im getting at dont ya^^.
That is exactly the part where I disagree. We never saw Buggy taking a really strong punch or kick. If he stands up after a really strong hit then I´d agree with you but so far he could already be owned with pretty much half-hearted strikes.
