Usopp = The Next Krieg?

[Local-chan]

My friend and I were discussing what the strawhat lives could be like after the events of One Piece and he said that Usopp will end up like Krieg.

This is because

A] Usopp and Krieg have similar fighting styles (as in they both have suprise attacks)
B] Usopp always speaks of having 3000 men or so, didn't Krieg have around that number?
C] You can knock them both around and they won't die.

Although true, I very much doubt that Usopp will become as evil as Krieg, and will most likely run away, but hey, I thought it to be a pretty good view into what Usopp might be like in the future

[samuraizero]

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[joekido the Second]

What?! Usopp is not Krieg. And Samuraizero, don't need to be rash like that.

[Eggy]

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[samuraizero]

@joekido:

What?! Usopp is not Krieg. And Samuraizero, don't need to be rash like that.

Rash? Im just passionate its my latin anture
no yore not youre just angry
/cliche simpsons quote
Ussop will not be kreig
1.Ussop is an good natured person who just deosnt have any physical strentgh
2.Even though he calls him self "Captain Ussop" he vbery loyal to teh strawhats

[Local-chan]

Actually, I never said he would be like Krieg in personality, due to the fact that I doubt he'll ever get rid of his cowardice. I was just commenting on how Usopp and Krieg's battles are similar in the way that they always have a trick up their sleeve, and the fact that Usopp always speaks of becoming a great pirate with a crew of 3000 or so when Krieg already has a army like that, I guess I just worded things wrong.

[Le Lawliet]

Stop overreacting SamuraiZero, even though the majority of your threads have been locked before doesn't mean a thing about 1 2 Jango.

Well, this is an interesting theory 1 2 Jango, who knows, maybe if they meet Kreig's crew in the Grand Line, they'll swear allegiance to Captain Usopp and he will have a huge amount of men. :sleep:

[changsho]

Mmm.. some similarities to Krieg, yes, but not the next one, if you know what I mean.

First off, Krieg's attacks are mostly lethal (by normal human standards), intended to immobilize and finish opponents in a quick way. Poison gas, spears and spiked robes, for example.

Usopp's various tricks are typically meant to confuse and befuddle opponents, allowing him to deliver finishing blows that are usually hard to pull off.

Also, when I hear the name "Krieg", I recall a person whose personality can not be more different than Usopp's. The "Next Krieg" Usopp would not hesitate to sacrifice crewmates and henchmen while firmly believing that no man can surpass him.

[Buuhan1]

Very Interesting idea, but to the best of my knowledge Krieg wasn't a marksmen.

[samuraizero]

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[Zio]

@samuraizero:

no my threads got locked due to there was threads discussing the topic already.
this thread desreves to be locked for stupidity

Good thing that you will NEVER call the shots around here. I'm keeping it open because while I disagree that Usopp would never turn into the kind of man Krieg is, it's alot better than some of the other topics I have seen.

Do me a favor and never act like you are a moderator or admin again. It only serves to make you look even worse than you were before.

[joekido the Second]

Usopp being Luffy's enemy would be cliche man. Imagine Usopp being like a Sefier(Final Fantasy of One Piece.

He joins you half of the way and helps Luffy and his friends.
Then in Water 7 he turned bad and quitted the crew and duals with his captian.
Then he spends the rest of the story tormanting Luffy and fighting him untie they reach Raftel. Then he disappears forever….

Bah, Krieg is an mean prideful man who believes he had to win ALL the time olny to find himself bashed on his head by Luffy. Usopp wants to win but not like Kreig.

[Randy1031]

@1:

My friend and I were discussing what the strawhat lives could be like after the events of One Piece and he said that Usopp will end up like Krieg.

This is because

A] Usopp and Krieg have similar fighting styles (as in they both have suprise attacks)
B] Usopp always speaks of having 3000 men or so, didn't Krieg have around that number?
C] You can knock them both around and they won't die.

Although true, I very much doubt that Usopp will become as evil as Krieg, and will most likely run away, but hey, I thought it to be a pretty good view into what Usopp might be like in the future

Usopp has 8000 followers.

[igalsfy]

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[samuraizero]

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[samuraizero]

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[KatanaJon1.1]

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[e1n]

i actually think that this could very well be possible. not that usopp will be evil like krieg, but krieg was known as a weaponmaster, and usopp is good with weapons.

i bet in the end after luffy gets the pirateking title, usopp will not only become the brave warrior of the sea, but will also be known as the greatest weaponmaster of all time.

[captain sogeking]

while there are some similarities Usopp is not as angry as Krieg seemed to be. He's a happy go luck type of guy which may be the key difference

[CosmicDebris]

Hm….I see the point, since Krieg's strength comes from his armour, gadgets and followers (not to mention his sneakiness and boastfulness). He's like Usopp gone totally evil. But I think that Oda put that in to show exactly what you would NOT want Usopp (or Luffy) to be like as a successful captain. Both Krieg and Kuro were sort of establishing what most pirates were but what Luffy did not want to be, and if Usopp ever did become his own captain, I'm sure that he'd never be like Krieg in personality.

And as for what captain sogeking said, you have to wonder how Krieg got to be the way he is. Maybe he started out a normal kid who had dreams too, but things happened along the way that turned him bitter, or he became too enthralled with his own power. Anyone can be corrupted in that way.

[Polygon]

**I like the idea of ussop having weapons hidden everywhere, but of course in a more Ussopy fashion. Though I doubt ussop will gain the physical power to lift a Ton.

Him being like krieg in personality, however, is completley out of the question.**

[Ivotas]

I don´t find that thread stupid at all. I doubt that Usopp will get like Krieg but there´s some things that could lead there.

1. Usopp has a full sack of dials. He didn´t use much of them yet, but this already is potential to have lots of gadgets he could use in a fight. Just like Krieg.

2. Usopp often acts cowardly. Now Usopp has too much of a good character to take it easy and when ever the situation requires it he shows tremendous courage. BUT, fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate…oops sorry I got carried away. :laugh: What I mean is that cowardice can lead to that way to end up surrounding yourself with as much followers as possible that you dominate others by sheer mass and use all kinds of sleezy techniques just to emerge victorious. Just like Krieg.

As I said I don´t see Usopp go there BUT he has the prerequisite to follow that road.

[e1n]

@Ivotas:

BUT, fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate…

very wise of you, master ivotas. the darkside lurks within us.

[samuraizero]

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[Creeping_Wrath]

…I don't see it.

Usopp and Krieg are both cowards in my eyes, but they're a different type of coward.

Usopp's coward is he generally runs away from fights and chicks out a lot
Krieg's cowardness is he fights without honor and uses cheap tricks to win.

Not to mention Kreig's built like a rock, Usopp is a.......a.....twig. I don't see it.

[Strange_One]

I don't think so. Kreig was power obsessed (KREIG SMAAASH!) and Usopp is more tricky.

Plus Kreig was a jerk :/.

[Bounty1Berry]

Both of them subscribe to "fight smarter, not harder". Do we ever see a completely de-armoured Krieg? He might well be built like Usopp on the inside, relying on leverage and mechanical boosts concealed in the massive plates.

However, I think Krieg is actually not a real expert in it; he has the 5000 men to back up his threats, so he doesn't really do "plan B' all that often. Usopp starts with Plan B and ends up at D.

[CosmicDebris]

@Bounty1Berry:

Usopp starts with Plan B and ends up at D.

Haha, very true. Although "Plan D" usually wasn't a plan at all, even though he says it was later. :laugh:

[Buuhan1]

@Bounty1Berry:

Both of them subscribe to "fight smarter, not harder". Do we ever see a completely de-armoured Krieg? He might well be built like Usopp on the inside, relying on leverage and mechanical boosts concealed in the massive plates.

However, I think Krieg is actually not a real expert in it; he has the 5000 men to back up his threats, so he doesn't really do "plan B' all that often. Usopp starts with Plan B and ends up at D.

Actually…Luffy destroyed his armor and then Gin sucker punched Krieg and we could clearly see he was indeed a big guy (cause I certainly didn't see Gin punching more armor).

[Luna-chan]

Usopp strikes me as someone who really values using his head to survive. Don Krieg is more of an "anything goes" sort of guy who has a lot more resources. Usopp REALLY knows how to use what he's got, not to mention he's too nice to become like Don Krieg, if you're talking about personality.

[Bounty1Berry]

Was Krieg fully dearmoured at the end?

Also, his armour COSTS him strength. Swing 400kg of armour and yourself, and it probably reduces Krieg's "workable" strength to Usopp's level.

[Luna-chan]

Yup. Luffy smashed it. Wootz steel, I think. Just another name for damascus steel. It's ironic that his ARMOR was made out of that stuff, as it tends to be brittle (damascus steel can deal lots of damage, but can't take much, which may be why Luffy's fists finally shattered his armor).